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Tadzio
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![[image loading]](/staff/Tadzio/GOMsemi/battlereport7.jpg) Games are over! GG <font size=3>  sKyHigh vs  Bisu</font>+ Show Spoiler [results] + sKyHigh < Bisu @ Andromeda sKyHigh < Bisu @ Destination sKyHigh < Bisu @ Colosseum II Maps: Andromeda • Destination • Colosseum II • Medusa • Andromeda Watch Live | ||
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Lebesgue
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On January 18 2009 17:23 []p4NDemik[] wrote: Maps are so rigged for Bisu. Even if he comes in and continues to under perform I'm confident he can still win. The maps are that difficult for TvP. The map pool couldn't be much worse... Andromeda Destination Colosseum II Medusa Andromed GG SkyHigh. Too bad  | ||
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spydernoob
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On January 18 2009 17:12 Caller wrote: no pvp final pls | ||
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SnowFantasy
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I reallly want skyhigh to win because a terran in the finals would be fun. Skyhigh is screwed considering the map pool though. | ||
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EleanorRIgby
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Raithed
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eshlow
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rushz0rz
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himurakenshin
Canada1845 Posts
once again I was wondering is there any way to watch these games on a mac? | ||
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StrikeFLOW
United States369 Posts
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Ichigo1234551
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Shikyo
Finland33997 Posts
On January 18 2009 17:29 Lebesgue wrote: The map pool couldn't be much worse... Andromeda Destination Colosseum II Medusa Andromed GG SkyHigh. Too bad Actually, I've noticed that GOM always has horrible map picks. In all the rounds the maps have been really rigged or just stupid (Neo Requiem... god I hate that map so much). Someone should tell GOM that proleague maps are a different thing than individual league maps. in Proleague a map like Neo Requiem doesn't matter, just put a Protoss out there. But in individual leagues, the Protoss gets almost a free win vs Terran on there. It's just ridiculous. GomTV's map selection is just disgusting, who does it anyway... How is it possible for every single one of the 4 maps to favor Protoss? What's wrong with Chupung Ryeong or Neo Harmony? Sorry for the rant but Gomtv's map selection is just that bad. | ||
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StrikeFLOW
United States369 Posts
On January 18 2009 17:40 himurakenshin wrote: hey everybody; once again I was wondering is there any way to watch these games on a mac? If you can get the stream URL, you can watch it using VLC player. | ||
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Roxen000
1226 Posts
On January 18 2009 17:34 SnowFantasy wrote: I really want bisu to win because I like him. I reallly want skyhigh to win because a terran in the finals would be fun. Skyhigh is screwed considering the map pool though. My thoughts too. =) | ||
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Samurai-
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Tadzio
3340 Posts
On January 18 2009 17:41 Shikyo wrote: How is it possible for every single one of the 4 maps to favor Protoss? What's wrong with Chupung Ryeong or Neo Harmony? Sorry for the rant but Gomtv's map selection is just that bad. Both players got to veto 1 map. Bisu veto'd Sin Chupung-Ryeong and skyhigh veto'd neo requiem | ||
IntoTheWow
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Shikyo
Finland33997 Posts
On January 18 2009 17:45 Tadzio wrote: Both players got to veto 1 map. Bisu veto'd Sin Chupung-Ryeong and skyhigh veto'd neo requiem What, neo requiem was in the map pool??? Wow, that's DISGUSTING. Hey, let's have raid assault 2 too -_-;; | ||
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meegrean
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Signet
United States1718 Posts
On January 18 2009 17:41 Shikyo wrote: How is it possible for every single one of the 4 maps to favor Protoss? What's wrong with Chupung Ryeong or Neo Harmony? Sorry for the rant but Gomtv's map selection is just that bad. Stats-wise, Andromeda is 28-25 PvT. Agree on the other three choices. Neo Harmony has less than a 30% winrate for P in each matchup. That is slightly worse for P than Medusa is for T. Sin Chupung-Ryeong has balanced stats for both P matchups, wouldn't mind seeing that used here.in place of Medusa. | ||
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Mikilatov
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Shikyo
Finland33997 Posts
On January 18 2009 17:49 Signet wrote: Stats-wise, Andromeda is 28-25 PvT. Agree on the other three choices. Neo Harmony has less than a 30% winrate for P in each matchup. It is even worse for P than Medusa is for T. Sin Chupung-Ryeong has balanced stats for both P matchups, wouldn't mind seeing that used here.in place of Medusa. So isn't Neo Harmony completely fair then, for the sake of balance? That's what I don't get. Imbalanced maps are fine, but why are they all imbalanced for one race? Like, something like Neo harmony, Chupung Ryeong, Andromeda, Destination would be so much better. 2 relatively balanced ones and 2 imbalanced ones for each of the races. Instead they just decide to P>T it all. I'm just hoping that Skyhigh can put a good performance and hopefully take at least a game. The ideal outcome would be victory, but it's going to be really, really difficult. But GOM... do you really wonder why you have so many Protoss left? *sigh* | ||
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Signet
United States1718 Posts
On January 18 2009 17:51 Shikyo wrote: So isn't Neo Harmony completely fair then, for the sake of balance? That's what I don't get. Imbalanced maps are fine, but why are they all imbalanced for one race? Like, something like Neo harmony, Chupung Ryeong, Andromeda, Destination would be so much better. 2 relatively balanced ones and 2 imbalanced ones for each of the races. Instead they just decide to P>T it all. Ah I see what you're saying. Yeah that would be fair to have the imba maps cancel out. | ||
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OSWater
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lilsusie
3861 Posts
out of the 7 maps that the proleague has been using, each player has decided on a map they wish NOT to play on. they took out neo requiem and chupungryung because they chose to. | ||
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Lebesgue
4542 Posts
On January 18 2009 17:53 OSWater wrote: They should do something like the players get to chose to omit a map or something. They have that. The problem is that Neo Requiem (a Terran graveyard) was in the pool. So obviously SkyHigh chose to drop that map. | ||
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lilsusie
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Shikyo
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EleanorRIgby
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Simplistik
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Just maybe. | ||
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ShaperofDreams
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EDIT: OMG I JUST READ LILSUSIES POST OMGGGG SUPERDANNNNNNNN!!!!!~oneone11 | ||
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Tadzio
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On January 18 2009 17:55 lilsusie wrote: ps. we got a new caster... ^^ ooo. 3 casters? neat! | ||
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Bosu
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renegade_zerg
Korea (South)525 Posts
On January 18 2009 17:55 lilsusie wrote: ps. we got a new caster... ^^ yeeaaaaaa mofuckin daniel leeeeeeee!!!!!!! | ||
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Azrael1111
United States550 Posts
On January 18 2009 17:56 Simplistik wrote: Maybe, just maybe, Bisu screwed up PvZ on the OSL/MSL maps because he practiced his ass off for PvT/PvP on the Gom maps. Just maybe. Maybe i'm wrong but isn't gom a lot less prestigious? | ||
KwarK
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Lebesgue
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On January 18 2009 17:56 Shikyo wrote: I really don't understand the whole lets-use-neo-requiem-but-not-the-other-oldschool-maps thing either :/ But this isn't the right place for this, sorry. My predictions are gonna be 3-0 Bisu, 3-1 at best. Medusa just feels impossible for T to win on. I expect a swift 3:1 from Bisu. I will give one game to SKyHigh as Bisu likes to throw away games from time to time and SKyHigh is a decent Terran. | ||
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Roxen000
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Ancestral
United States3230 Posts
On January 18 2009 17:57 Azrael1111 wrote: Maybe i'm wrong but isn't gom a lot less prestigious? Maybe I'm wrong but money is equally prestigious no matter the source. | ||
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Samurai-
Slovenia2035 Posts
On January 18 2009 17:57 Azrael1111 wrote: Maybe i'm wrong but isn't gom a lot less prestigious? yeah, they dont practice for gom at all.. | ||
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johanes
Czech Republic2227 Posts
On January 18 2009 17:57 renegade_zerg wrote: yeeaaaaaa mofuckin daniel leeeeeeee!!!!!!! daniel or artosis? in either case instant WIN! | ||
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KwarK
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Puosu
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On January 18 2009 17:59 Samurai- wrote: yeah, they dont practice for gom at all.. Gom is not as respected as OSL and MSL because its a new and "unproven" one, but the ProGamers practice for it just as much as they do for any league obviously.. There is money to be won. | ||
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OSWater
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johanes
Czech Republic2227 Posts
On January 18 2009 18:00 Puosu wrote: Gom is not as respected as OSL and MSL because its a new and "unproven" one, but the ProGamers practice for it just as much as they do for any league obviously.. There is money to be won. much money | ||
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renegade_zerg
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SayTT
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Raithed
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Samurai-
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On January 18 2009 18:00 Puosu wrote: Gom is not as respected as OSL and MSL because its a new and "unproven" one, but the ProGamers practice for it just as much as they do for any league obviously.. There is money to be won. i dont wanna go into this discussion, but players said them selves , like flash etc.. that they dont really have time to practice for GOM, but you go ahead, and believe what you want.. | ||
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Puosu
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On January 18 2009 18:01 SayTT wrote: They do practice, progamers are poor and need the money. lolol nice 15k a month for NaDa is quite epic tbh. | ||
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Signet
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That said, savior and zero both played well. Give them credit for good wins. | ||
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StrikeFLOW
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KwarK
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Bosu
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Raithed
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lol!!! | ||
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Shikyo
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OSWater
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Samurai-
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Realpenguin
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IT'S SO BADASS YET GAY AT THE SAME TIME (lol tasteless in the dark) | ||
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renegade_zerg
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oshibori_probe
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NotSupporting
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On January 18 2009 18:03 OSWater wrote: I'd be laughing so hard. | ||
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Puosu
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4Servy
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KwarK
United States42682 Posts
On January 18 2009 18:03 oshibori_probe wrote: Its not kespa sanctioned however, so it is obviously not the top priority of OSL/MSL. Also unless there are big names, no one shows up except for like 5 people. It is. GSI and GOM season 1 weren't but this is. | ||
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Roxen000
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StrikeFLOW
United States369 Posts
On January 18 2009 18:03 oshibori_probe wrote: Its not kespa sanctioned however, so it is obviously not the top priority of OSL/MSL. Also unless there are big names, no one shows up except for like 5 people. ?? what isn't kespa sanctioned? The gom classic is kespa sactioned. | ||
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johanes
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Puosu
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GTR
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Tadzio
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Zinbiel
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On another note, I think Skyhigh might take this 3-1, he looked good against best in my opinion. | ||
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Mhugues
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This is gonna be great =D | ||
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spydernoob
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Shikyo
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anch
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but Tasteless can just do this himself, its just a bo5. | ||
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lilsusie
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LimitlessSky
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Raithed
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DANNY!! | ||
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NotSupporting
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On January 18 2009 18:05 ShaperofDreams wrote: awww i will miss lilsusie so much...ambushed by superdan!!!! i wish we can have all three though, i love you susie! you will still see here doing interviews and I sure some more stuff! | ||
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Zinbiel
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enjoy fellow mac users! | ||
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NotSupporting
Sweden1998 Posts
On January 18 2009 18:05 EleanorRIgby wrote: susie didnt even know shit and didnt add at all to that cast anyways. Daniel lee on the other hand.... This is bullshit, she did a lot to the cast, not strategical wise but it was very funny to here all the fun facts and stuff that Tasteless didn't know. Also just having two commentators was waaay better than one. | ||
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Bosu
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wtflah
United States92 Posts
On January 18 2009 18:05 EleanorRIgby wrote: susie didnt even know shit and didnt add at all to that cast anyways. Daniel lee on the other hand.... christ, show a bit of respect. She added plenty to the cast, she played off tasteless and asked good questions. 90% of your posts are blatant trolls, when you will grow the fuck up? | ||
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KwarK
United States42682 Posts
On January 18 2009 18:05 lilsusie wrote: ^^ I'm also going to be doing some more behind the scenes stuff at the studio. so if you guys have any issues with stream or whatnot, let me know i'll be reading. If Bisu wins can you ask him about his losses and how he allocated practice time for the 3 leagues. Curious whether he prioritised Gom practice because the opponent was stronger, the money better and his pvz strong already. | ||
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Raithed
China7078 Posts
On January 18 2009 18:05 EleanorRIgby wrote: susie didnt even know shit and didnt add at all to that cast anyways. Daniel lee on the other hand.... now now, behave. | ||
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Shikyo
Finland33997 Posts
On January 18 2009 18:07 NotSupporting wrote: This is bullshit, she did a lot to the cast, not strategical wise but it was very funny to here all the fun facts and stuff that Tasteless didn't know. Also just having two commentators was waaay better than one. Don't take it seriously, I'm fairly sure he used to be banned =P might be banned again sooner than you'd think. | ||
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Tadzio
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GHOSTCLAW
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Cuddly
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renegade_zerg
Korea (South)525 Posts
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Lebesgue
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On January 18 2009 18:07 NotSupporting wrote: This is bullshit, she did a lot to the cast, not strategical wise but it was very funny to here all the fun facts and stuff that Tasteless didn't know. Also just having two commentators was waaay better than one. Totally agree with all you wrote. Also Tasteless used to be silent before but Susie made him talk more iand explain some strategies which was really helpful at least for me to understand some deeper aspects of the game. | ||
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ShaperofDreams
Canada2492 Posts
edit: for spelling | ||
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Puosu
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On January 18 2009 18:07 wtflah wrote: christ, show a bit of respect. She added plenty to the cast, she played off tasteless and asked good questions. I loved Susies role in the commentating, I'm a newbie and her questions were many times just what I wanted to know. I think its a big part of commentating and thats why I think she should be the third commentator. I understand its hard as hell though to do the interviews and all at the same time, but I still think Susie should be respected a lot more as a co-caster. | ||
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clazziquai
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Samurai-
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OSWater
United States1343 Posts
I know a Zerg player who showed Bisu how a map looks without any Protoss buildings. | ||
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Xela
Canada203 Posts
he says the same thing every time lol | ||
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LimitlessSky
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StrikeFLOW
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ShaperofDreams
Canada2492 Posts
On January 18 2009 18:10 clazziquai wrote: So wait, Daniel Lee replaced Susie as commentator? Or is he just substituting for today? Haven't followed GOM much =P susie is now interview(er) mainly and dan is casting | ||
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Raithed
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clazziquai
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On January 18 2009 18:11 StrikeFLOW wrote: OMG SOMEONE PLEASE TELL ME THEY SCREENSHOTTED THAT?1 what lol? | ||
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Raithed
China7078 Posts
On January 18 2009 18:10 OSWater wrote: No Protoss player can match Bisu? I know a Zerg player who showed Bisu how a map looks without any Protoss buildings. savior! like one game won, calm down. | ||
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ShaperofDreams
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StrikeFLOW
United States369 Posts
Bisu stuck out his tongue, but its all good. someone caught it for me :O | ||
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Shikyo
Finland33997 Posts
On January 18 2009 18:10 Xela wrote: I srsly think tasteless has a kind of scripted text and he repeats it at every begginning of matches: "right now the players are adjusting everything, warming their hands....you can't play starcraft with cold hands, we do supply the players hot packs etc." he says the same thing every time lol I think it's his style... he seems to repeat himself a lot. "It's gonna be really exciting" and such. I guess it's good if you only watch one or two random games. But when you watch them all it gets kind of annoying at times. Luckily his humor is really good. | ||
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Eternity241
Australia342 Posts
On January 18 2009 18:12 ShaperofDreams wrote: screenshotted what man?!?!?! FBH?!?! Speaking of FBH I thought skyhigh's hair looked kinda like FBH's hair in the cool intro where he was in some stare with bisu | ||
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GTR
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OSWater
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That was Bruce Lee... | ||
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Cuddly
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rushz0rz
Canada5300 Posts
On January 18 2009 18:13 Shikyo wrote: I think it's his style... he seems to repeat himself a lot. "It's gonna be really exciting" and such. I guess it's good if you only watch one or two random games. But when you watch them all it gets kind of annoying at times. Luckily his humor is really good. I think as he becomes more adjusted in his job and gains more experience he will get better. Also as he becomes more intertwined with the backstage pro scene he will have more interesting stories to tell about the players and stuff. | ||
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MoRe_mInErAls
Canada1210 Posts
sKyHigh was just officially compared to  sAviOrsKyHigh cannot lose now. | ||
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clazziquai
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On January 18 2009 18:15 BWdero wrote: Is it me or is the sound really low? It's you - I hear it fine | ||
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wtflah
United States92 Posts
On January 18 2009 18:15 BWdero wrote: Is it me or is the sound really low? no issue for me, but I'm on the premium stream. | ||
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Solinren
United States2653 Posts
On January 18 2009 18:15 BWdero wrote: Is it me or is the sound really low? The left side is louder than the right side. | ||
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Shikyo
Finland33997 Posts
On January 18 2009 18:15 BWdero wrote: Is it me or is the sound really low? It's normal for me. Maybe it's a bit lower than like Corinthos' OGN stream, but not all that low. | ||
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Raithed
China7078 Posts
On January 18 2009 18:14 ShaperofDreams wrote: can somebody please provide the screenshot of bisu sticking out his tongue? it would be awesome in the GOM coverage if(lol) bisu wins. stop being gay for bisu, thats creepy. | ||
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jigga
Canada1141 Posts
On January 18 2009 18:16 Solinren wrote: The left side is louder than the right side. Yea I have this problem too, its pretty annoying. Anyone else the same? | ||
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lilsusie
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rushz0rz
Canada5300 Posts
On January 18 2009 18:15 BWdero wrote: Is it me or is the sound really low? Drugs while watching SC... hmmm... gotta try that sometime. | ||
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ShaperofDreams
Canada2492 Posts
edit:also lilsusie can you please translate some bits of trash talk? | ||
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BWdero
Netherlands476 Posts
Well fuck, I have my sound up all the way and i can barely hear them. | ||
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Blind
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Shikyo
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rushz0rz
Canada5300 Posts
On January 18 2009 18:17 lilsusie wrote: wish you guys can understand this banter between the 2 in the intro.. kekeke. so much "trash" talk. Just curious... did you get officially replaced or are they waiting to add a third spot? | ||
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wonkman
United States520 Posts
On January 18 2009 18:17 jigga wrote: Yea I have this problem too, its pretty annoying. Anyone else the same? I have this problem ^.^ | ||
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StrikeFLOW
United States369 Posts
On January 18 2009 18:16 Solinren wrote: The left side is louder than the right side. agreed, I had to shift the volume to the right to balance it. its annoying. | ||
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Xstatic
United States765 Posts
On January 18 2009 18:17 jigga wrote: Yea I have this problem too, its pretty annoying. Anyone else the same? Dude, you have a working stream that isn't a slideshow, what's there to complain about? | ||
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snowbird
Germany2044 Posts
looking forward to this : D! | ||
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clazziquai
6685 Posts
On January 18 2009 18:17 lilsusie wrote: wish you guys can understand this banter between the 2 in the intro.. kekeke. so much "trash" talk. lol @ Bisu. xdD | ||
LosingID8
CA10828 Posts
omg bisu is so funny "i can't help it that i'm good-looking" hahaha | ||
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morfyy
Romania593 Posts
edit: hope so... | ||
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cujo2k
Canada1044 Posts
On January 18 2009 18:07 Zinbiel wrote: found VLC link http://65.49.46.37:8901/view.cgi?systype=500&subtype=30&hid=160&nid=99&key=0&impurl=0&cid=9999&title=Averatec-IntelClassicSeason2 enjoy fellow mac users! ubuntu user says <3 ty | ||
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ShaperofDreams
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EDIT: CHEEEEEEEEEESEEEE | ||
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Raithed
China7078 Posts
yeah i have the sound issue too | ||
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KwarK
United States42682 Posts
On January 18 2009 18:20 StrikeFLOW wrote: Doesn't backho mean white tiger? Yep. | ||
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Shikyo
Finland33997 Posts
On January 18 2009 18:19 LosingID8 wrote: LOL omg bisu is so funny "i can't help it that i'm good-looking" hahaha Sadly, he loses because it's unfair that a map has 2 entrances. His personality seems pretty annoying =D Skyhigh going to greet the panda with some BBS! | ||
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LimitlessSky
United States434 Posts
On January 18 2009 18:19 Solinren wrote: I always laugh when I see that athlete's foot shirt Lol this comment came after the Hercules... one.. which got me thinking about Bisu being more like Achilles.....yep more like Achilles... | ||
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On January 18 2009 18:21 ShaperofDreams wrote: lol clazz you just got that? you should watch all of the gom vods asap. haha I'm sure I missed a lot =[ I'm lazy XDDDDDD | ||
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I thought it started in 40 mins Glad I didn't miss anything and DANIEL LEE!? | ||
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On January 18 2009 18:24 GHOSTCLAW wrote: although to be fair, the supply numbers look like they're pretty close. True, 4-5 probes were killed. | ||
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3-0 sweep, i tell ya. | ||
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i don't understand that | ||
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On January 18 2009 18:24 LosingID8 wrote: wtf if you're gonna do an allin strat why not bring your SCVs i don't understand that yes seriously. I don't mind though :D Go Bisu! | ||
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On January 18 2009 18:24 Shikyo wrote: Skyhigh microed... bad Bisu went zealot first on a big map like Andromeda. Cuts probe count to do that, very unusual play. | ||
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On January 18 2009 18:25 mog87 wrote: shouldnt he have brought more scvs? He didn't have any SCVs. | ||
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On January 18 2009 18:24 rushz0rz wrote: terrible play by skyhigh. absolutely terrible. 3-0 sweep, i tell ya. What the fuck are you on about? That was no terrible play. Doing a build like that has a bit of luck factor, if bisu would have fast nexus the game would have ended in SkyHighs favor. | ||
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On January 18 2009 18:24 LosingID8 wrote: wtf if you're gonna do an allin strat why not bring your SCVs i don't understand that Yeah, all but about 6 SCVs(that'd be like 5?) and he probably would have been able to take out more probes or even get his bunker up... | ||
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On January 18 2009 18:25 cosiant wrote: Is this the shortest match in the GOM? maybe of the televised ones. I don't remember if there was a game that had a 5 pool or not | ||
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On January 18 2009 18:26 NotSupporting wrote: What the fuck are you on about? That was no terrible play. Doing a build like that has a bit of luck factor, if bisu would have fast nexus the game would have ended in SkyHighs favor. Yeap, considering 14 nexus is pretty common on Andromeda. Skyhigh just got unlucky when Bisu had his first zealot come out. | ||
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On January 18 2009 18:26 NotSupporting wrote: What the fuck are you on about? That was no terrible play. Doing a build like that has a bit of luck factor, if bisu would have fast nexus the game would have ended in SkyHighs favor. but people haven't done 13nex regularly on andromeda in a month or two now. it was only really popular when the map first came out. although getting the zlot first was sort of lucky on bisu's part. | ||
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On January 18 2009 18:26 LimitlessSky wrote: Maybe Skyhigh should have proxed somewhere a little farther from the middle... he couldn't have scouted earlier. He needed to proxy in the middle so that he could have an equal distance to the other 2 bases where bisu could have been | ||
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On January 18 2009 18:28 ShaperofDreams wrote: oh my lord i just discovered the view all forum pages option, so much better! it's life changing, be careful. You might fall in, and never come out. | ||
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On January 18 2009 18:26 NotSupporting wrote: What the fuck are you on about? That was no terrible play. Doing a build like that has a bit of luck factor, if bisu would have fast nexus the game would have ended in SkyHighs favor. It was terrible. | ||
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On January 18 2009 18:29 lilsusie wrote: is anyone using the high quality setting? can you guys give me feedback about that? how do you set it either on or off? | ||
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On January 18 2009 18:26 LimitlessSky wrote: Maybe Skyhigh should have proxed somewhere a little farther from the middle... In this case it wouldn't really have changed it too much, the thing is that Bisu would have scouted Skyhighs base anyway and would have realized there was a proxy. Also if you do not place it in the middle there is a big chance that you placed them father from your opponent than you could have. | ||
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On January 18 2009 18:29 NotSupporting wrote: In this case it wouldn't really have changed it too much, the thing is that Bisu would have scouted Skyhighs base anyway and would have realized there was a proxy. Also if you do not place it in the middle there is a big chance that you placed them father from your opponent than you could have. Oh...ok. Thanks. | ||
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On January 18 2009 18:29 lilsusie wrote: is anyone using the high quality setting? can you guys give me feedback about that? It seams it's 1-2min ahead of the regular stream and for me atleast keeps cuting off all the time. There a noticeable difference in quality though. | ||
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I wonder if he prepared this or is reacting to game 1... | ||
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standard 13 nex build from bisu | ||
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On January 18 2009 18:31 StrikeFLOW wrote: Would susie have been lil'balls? yes. I've noticed the cutting off too - I'm watching the HQ from the back room right now. We're working on that. | ||
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On January 18 2009 18:32 rushz0rz wrote: lol game 3? rofl i saw that too :p | ||
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On January 18 2009 18:34 clazziquai wrote: i think i saw a dragoon trapped. yep... LOL wow bisu. thats very unlike him. | ||
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Skyhigh moving out with couple of vultures and tank | ||
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On January 18 2009 18:34 HanN00b wrote: Where is lilsus? she's running interviews and helping in the backroom i believe | ||
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PANDABEAR GET OUT OF THE WAY! Haha tasteless | ||
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reaver coming out bisu. | ||
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On January 18 2009 18:36 Salv wrote: Hahaha Artosis and the PandaBear guy! artosis? where? | ||
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On January 18 2009 18:37 ShaperofDreams wrote: could bisu's goon trap be purposeful, its a conspiracy to stack his carriers! it doesn't work for protoss like that....? | ||
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Also, it seems honestly that the quality of the HD stream is the same quality the old stream had before this week, and the non HD stream is a lower quality than the old stream. | ||
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On January 18 2009 17:39 rushz0rz wrote: bisu 3-0 ez. Unlike Best, Bisu can adapt and micro. | ||
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On January 18 2009 18:39 rushz0rz wrote: hahahaahaha tasteless made a bigger deal out of panda bear guy being dead than any other action in SC, ever. hahaha, love it | ||
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On January 18 2009 18:39 ShaperofDreams wrote: who killed pandabearguy? skyhigh | ||
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On January 18 2009 18:43 NotSupporting wrote: lol @ bisus building placement, embarrassing apparently it was good enough | ||
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On January 18 2009 18:44 Lebesgue wrote: GG from Skyhigh. This is rape... Bisu is outplaying Skyhigh in every aspect of the game. expect building placement | ||
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On January 18 2009 18:43 NotSupporting wrote: lol @ bisus building placement, embarrassing yeah. who cares that he won the game or that skyhigh played terrible again. lets laugh at Bisu's embarassing placement! your fanboyism is BLATANTLY APPARENT. | ||
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On January 18 2009 18:44 rushz0rz wrote: yeah. who cares that he won the game or that skyhigh played terrible again. lets laugh at Bisu's embarassing placement! your fanboyism is BLATANTLY APPARENT. Well I have learned something from this thread and that is that I hate you so I am not really going to answer but its rediculus for a player that played this game so much to fuck up a one of the most basic things in the game. | ||
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On January 18 2009 18:44 Puosu wrote: I didn't expect anything like this.. wow. really? I think it was obvious that Bisu would rape skyhigh | ||
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On January 18 2009 18:45 Samurai- wrote: wow, how uninteresting has become this event with maps like this, games are not high level, trapping dragoons, just bad all around, i wont watch PvP finals... yeah they should rig the maps so Terran can win, make his tanks build faster or something. ruin a players career (Freedom, anyone?) because terrans cant seem to adapt. | ||
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On January 18 2009 18:47 Mastermind wrote: really? I think it was obvious that Bisu would rape skyhigh He probably means he didnt expect super daniel man! | ||
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On January 18 2009 18:47 Mastermind wrote: really? I think it was obvious that Bisu would rape skyhigh skyhigh did manage to get here, and he beat some pretty serious players to get here. He has also been preparing for this game. I was hoping that he would have put up more of a fight | ||
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On January 18 2009 18:47 rushz0rz wrote: yeah they should rig the maps so Terran can win, make his tanks build faster or something. ruin a players career (Freedom, anyone?) because terrans cant seem to adapt. also make marines have 35 health | ||
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On January 18 2009 18:47 rushz0rz wrote: yeah they should rig the maps so Terran can win, make his tanks build faster or something. ruin a players career (Freedom, anyone?) because terrans cant seem to adapt. Just fuck off ok | ||
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On January 18 2009 18:47 ShaperofDreams wrote: i guess i wont have to stay up too late tonight I think they've only been playing for about 20 minutes worth of gametime >.> | ||
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On January 18 2009 18:47 rushz0rz wrote: yeah they should rig the maps so Terran can win, make his tanks build faster or something. ruin a players career (Freedom, anyone?) because terrans cant seem to adapt. shadow rush. Lets see if Skyhigh can make a comeback and make it more intense. | ||
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On January 18 2009 18:47 GHOSTCLAW wrote: skyhigh did manage to get here, and he beat some pretty serious players to get here. He has also been preparing for this game. I was hoping that he would have put up more of a fight Same here. I almost voted for him in the liquibet... | ||
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On January 18 2009 18:47 rushz0rz wrote: yeah they should rig the maps so Terran can win, make his tanks build faster or something. ruin a players career (Freedom, anyone?) because terrans cant seem to adapt. What happened to Freedom? VOD please! | ||
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Awww... are you on your period or something? your favourite player getting smashed making it worse? nit-picking at Bisu to make yourself feel better about the terrible terran player losing? Get a grip, man. | ||
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On January 18 2009 18:48 Lebesgue wrote: Same here. I almost voted for him in the liquibet... I did vote for him in liquibet. Let's go skyhigh! ^_^ | ||
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On January 18 2009 18:44 rushz0rz wrote: yeah. who cares that he won the game or that skyhigh played terrible again. lets laugh at Bisu's embarassing placement! your fanboyism is BLATANTLY APPARENT. On January 18 2009 18:42 rushz0rz wrote: lol trapped another goon... wow Bisu. whats wrong with him! Did it suddenly lose its humor in that 2 minute span?  | ||
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On January 18 2009 18:49 Frits wrote: This is ridiculous, Skyhigh played like a champ against Best and now he can't even keep an advantage against Bisu, gaaaayyy. Next map isn't exactly promising either but who knows what he prepared. I pray Skyhigh can pull off 3 wins, he did play brilliantly on medusa last time. Medusa is Bisu's map. No way Skyhigh is gonna win on it. It is gonna end here and now. Colosseum will be the graveyard of the last Terran in the tournament.... | ||
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night elf dominated WC3 in the early days. MBC rigged a map so orcs built faster and some other things so that orc could win and it might give them higher viewer ratings. Freedom was a night elf and was victim to the map rigging, and it ruined his chances at going to the finals. it was let out and MBC lost a lot of respect in WC3. Freedom also lost all faith in WC3 and switched to SC, where he now resides on Khan. | ||
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On January 18 2009 18:51 Aesop wrote: Why is everyone bitching about that trapped dragoon? Sure, a pro should not do that, but it's not like it took something off of the generally great game management Bisu showed. It was two dragoons trapped in seperate areas and he had to kill a pylon and a citadel to get them out. | ||
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On January 18 2009 18:51 Kuja900 wrote: i got here late is lee replacing susie, or is it just a one day thing, will susie be co-casting anymore? lilsusie is now doing backstage duties full-time (includes interviews) so Daniel Lee is replacing her as co-caster for Tasteless pretty sure it's permanent for now, could change though, who knows | ||
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On January 18 2009 18:50 Lebesgue wrote: Medusa is All Protosses map. No way Skyhigh is gonna win on it. It is gonna end here and now. Colosseum will be the graveyard of the last Terran in the tournament.... Fixed. | ||
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On January 18 2009 18:52 rushz0rz wrote: night elf dominated WC3 in the early days. MBC rigged a map so orcs built faster and some other things so that orc could win and it might give them higher viewer ratings. Freedom was a night elf and was victim to the map rigging, and it ruined his chances at going to the finals. it was let out and MBC lost a lot of respect in WC3. Freedom also lost all faith in WC3 and switched to SC, where he now resides on Khan. But i remember he retired like 1 year ago ? | ||
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On January 18 2009 18:53 dragoonkf wrote: But i remember he retired like 1 year ago ? He had a break because of personal reasons, no idea if he is back.. | ||
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On January 18 2009 18:53 dragoonkf wrote: But i remember he retired like 1 year ago ? oh, or maybe he retired. i dont know. i just know he had 1 good game vs. Jaedong... or Savior on Tau Cross and he completely raped him. Probably the highlight of his career. | ||
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On January 18 2009 18:52 blabber wrote: lilsusie is now doing backstage duties full-time (includes interviews) so Daniel Lee is replacing her as co-caster for Tasteless pretty sure it's permanent for now, could change though, who knows I'm kind of hoping that they can at some point move to a 3 person panel, basically just like the korean one. I hope they're just as good, but then again, I have no idea how good the korean one is, because I have no idea what they talk about ^_^ | ||
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On January 18 2009 18:52 NovaTheFeared wrote: It was two dragoons trapped in seperate areas and he had to kill a pylon and a citadel to get them out. That and it's really easy to fix. When the shuttle finished he should have ferried the goon out and put a probe in its spot to block from future trapping. Standard procedure. He should know to do this. | ||
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On January 18 2009 18:52 rushz0rz wrote: He quit progaming to go back to school.night elf dominated WC3 in the early days. MBC rigged a map so orcs built faster and some other things so that orc could win and it might give them higher viewer ratings. Freedom was a night elf and was victim to the map rigging, and it ruined his chances at going to the finals. it was let out and MBC lost a lot of respect in WC3. Freedom also lost all faith in WC3 and switched to SC, where he now resides | ||
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Salv
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dragoonkf
Singapore1256 Posts
On January 18 2009 18:54 rushz0rz wrote: oh, or maybe he retired. i dont know. i just know he had 1 good game vs. Jaedong... or Savior on Tau Cross and he completely raped him. Probably the highlight of his career. Haha ill always remember him for being offensive sunken'd by OverSky on Katrina | ||
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GTR
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On January 18 2009 18:54 Puosu wrote: He had a break because of personal reasons, no idea if he is back.. He is finishing his university studies IIRC. | ||
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Kuja900
United States3564 Posts
On January 18 2009 18:52 blabber wrote: lilsusie is now doing backstage duties full-time (includes interviews) so Daniel Lee is replacing her as co-caster for Tasteless pretty sure it's permanent for now, could change though, who knows Eh imo multiple partner casting should have atleast one female. edit: wow in retrospect that didnt come out right | ||
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Ver
United States2186 Posts
But Skyhigh vs Bisu is not decided upon maps. Bisu vs Flash might have been; both players played incredibly well but Flash's builds did do a lot to help the maps be a bit better imo. Bisu was just a little bit better that day. But right now you are putting an S class player against a normal A/B level Terran. Bisu is going to win 3-0 on any maps if he played like he did vs Flash; the only question was how shaken would he be by his msl/osl defeats. Skyhigh's performance against Best is irrelevant because Best is terrible in series play. This is what happens when you put one of the smartest players against some generic mechanical player. | ||
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Heyoka
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ambit!ous1
United States3662 Posts
atleast goto game 4. Go SkyHigh! + Show Spoiler + Bisu FTW tho!  | ||
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GHOSTCLAW
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GHOSTCLAW
United States17042 Posts
skyhigh at top left, bisu at top right | ||
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NotSupporting
Sweden1998 Posts
On January 18 2009 18:50 rushz0rz wrote: Awww... are you on your period or something? your favourite player getting smashed making it worse? nit-picking at Bisu to make yourself feel better about the terrible terran player losing? Get a grip, man. Judging from your posts you would be talking just as much if Bisu were to lose. | ||
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blabber
United States4448 Posts
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LimitlessSky
United States434 Posts
Teddybeardude... | ||
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Lebesgue
4542 Posts
On January 18 2009 18:56 Ver wrote: Guys. This isn't about the maps. Yes these maps are imbalanced as hell and no you cannot blame it on innovations fully because Flash has been doing that far more than any Protoss player. But Skyhigh vs Bisu is not decided upon maps. Bisu vs Flash might have been; both players played incredibly well but Flash's builds did do a lot to help the maps be a bit better imo. Bisu was just a little bit better that day. But right now you are putting an S class player against a normal A/B level Terran. Bisu is going to win 3-0 on any maps if he played like he did vs Flash; the only question was how shaken would he be by his msl/osl defeats. Skyhigh's performance against Best is irrelevant because Best is terrible in series play. This is what happens when you put one of the smartest players against some generic mechanical player. Unfortunately for all of us (the spectators) you are pretty much right. Two first games by SkyHigh were just terrible. | ||
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GTR
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Salv
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xxsaznpride
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Tadzio
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On January 18 2009 18:59 rushz0rz wrote: what did giyom popularize? everything protoss. | ||
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GHOSTCLAW
United States17042 Posts
pylon gate gas core for bisu, supply rax gas for skyhigh. both scouting in the wrong direction | ||
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Raithed
China7078 Posts
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rushz0rz
Canada5300 Posts
i mean the specific thing daniel was talking about. | ||
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GHOSTCLAW
United States17042 Posts
here's a later interview with him http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=28192 | ||
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Raithed
China7078 Posts
On January 18 2009 18:59 rushz0rz wrote: what did giyom popularize? DT in mid/lategame vs zerg. | ||
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Heyoka
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GHOSTCLAW
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ShaperofDreams
Canada2492 Posts
On January 18 2009 18:59 rushz0rz wrote: what did giyom popularize? Giyon is well known for popularizing WHOAH!! | ||
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GHOSTCLAW
United States17042 Posts
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NotSupporting
Sweden1998 Posts
On January 18 2009 19:02 GHOSTCLAW wrote: first tank out, you better have a lot of micro skyhigh he is doing good so far. | ||
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GHOSTCLAW
United States17042 Posts
bulldog? | ||
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Turkey4968 Posts
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LimitlessSky
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BanZu
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rushz0rz
Canada5300 Posts
On January 18 2009 17:39 rushz0rz wrote: bisu 3-0 ez. i was wrong. i needed to emphasize the ez more. | ||
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Raithed
China7078 Posts
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LimitlessSky
United States434 Posts
Bisu. WOW | ||
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ambit!ous1
United States3662 Posts
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clazziquai
6685 Posts
Just wow. Bisu is soo gooooooooooooood damn! | ||
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freelander
Hungary4707 Posts
there is no way this can be defended | ||
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Puosu
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Magic84
Russian Federation1381 Posts
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Raithed
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GHOSTCLAW
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United States308 Posts
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United States1001 Posts
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darkemperor
Turkey725 Posts
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China7078 Posts
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United States434 Posts
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Tadzio
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prOxi.Beater
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Siefu
Australia205 Posts
Alot shorter than I expected. Looks like its gonna be a PvP final. | ||
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KwarK
United States42682 Posts
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Puosu
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darkemperor
Turkey725 Posts
On January 18 2009 19:06 GHOSTCLAW wrote: how many cheeses was that from bisu in game three? fast 2 gate goon into elevator from a proxy robo/reaver? you have a problem with that ? | ||
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Frits
11782 Posts
gayyyyyyy, GOM is pretty much over for me I don't think I can watch another PvP matchup. | ||
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NovaTheFeared
United States7222 Posts
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StrikeFLOW
United States369 Posts
On January 18 2009 19:07 prOxi.Beater wrote: Disappointing series. Hopefully next week will make up for it Two weeks from now, next week there is no cast. | ||
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China3334 Posts
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Lebesgue
4542 Posts
On January 18 2009 19:07 Raithed wrote: 5am - going to sleep. night guys! Same here. 5 am here. It wasn't worth it at all. Blah... | ||
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GHOSTCLAW
United States17042 Posts
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EpiK
Korea (South)5757 Posts
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mog87
United States1586 Posts
game 1 proxy game 2 fast carriers game 3 bulldog and proxy reaver | ||
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eshlow
United States5210 Posts
On January 18 2009 19:07 Tadzio wrote: GGs. Keep practicing skyhigh. Pretty much... | ||
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Canada2492 Posts
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NotSupporting
Sweden1998 Posts
On January 18 2009 19:06 rushz0rz wrote: well, at least we got the terrible terran out of the way. Bisu to the finals! Yea he is sooooooo terrible man, I mean he did absolutely not make it to the ro4 in a tournament with 100+ players, and he is absolutely not the best terran arguably the player in CJ and he is abosutly not very new and he has now future THAN YOU MAN FOR YOU GREAT INSIGHT! | ||
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Philippines8437 Posts
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rushz0rz
Canada5300 Posts
On January 18 2009 19:08 NotSupporting wrote: Yea he is sooooooo terrible man, I mean he did absolutely not make it to the ro4 in a tournament with 100+ players, and he is absolutely not the best terran arguably the player in CJ and he is abosutly very new to the seen and he has now future THAN YOU MAN FOR YOU GREAT INSIGHT! Sometimes, players get lucky. Sync? | ||
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United States1586 Posts
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Puosu
6985 Posts
On January 18 2009 19:07 Emlary wrote: How much is the champion prize? I hope at least Bisu can at least get some decent cash this season without OSL/MSL :O 40k for first place iirc. | ||
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KwarK
United States42682 Posts
On January 18 2009 19:07 Emlary wrote: How much is the champion prize? I hope at least Bisu can at least get some decent cash this season without OSL/MSL :O More than the OSL. GOM has serious funding. | ||
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LimitlessSky
United States434 Posts
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Aesop
Hungary11291 Posts
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rushz0rz
Canada5300 Posts
On January 18 2009 19:09 lilsusie wrote: anyone have any questions for bisu? quick! i need 2 questions did he expect it to be so easy? | ||
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LimitlessSky
United States434 Posts
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darkemperor
Turkey725 Posts
On January 18 2009 19:09 lilsusie wrote: anyone have any questions for bisu? quick! i need 2 questions Why was he slumping last week ? | ||
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OSWater
United States1343 Posts
On January 18 2009 19:09 lilsusie wrote: anyone have any questions for bisu? quick! i need 2 questions How did it feel to be raped by Savior? | ||
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ZenDeX
Philippines2916 Posts
On January 18 2009 19:09 lilsusie wrote: anyone have any questions for bisu? quick! i need 2 questions How would he prepare for the finals? Who does he think will win between free and Jangbi? | ||
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KwarK
United States42682 Posts
On January 18 2009 19:09 lilsusie wrote: anyone have any questions for bisu? quick! i need 2 questions How he allocated practice time for GOM and OSL MSL. What mus etc and why? | ||
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rushz0rz
Canada5300 Posts
On January 18 2009 19:09 lilsusie wrote: anyone have any questions for bisu? quick! i need 2 questions will he have my children? | ||
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MuShu
United States3223 Posts
On January 18 2009 19:09 lilsusie wrote: anyone have any questions for bisu? quick! i need 2 questions Was he surprised that he got knocked out of OSL/MSL so early? And why does he think that happeneD? | ||
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mog87
United States1586 Posts
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GTR
51449 Posts
On January 18 2009 19:09 lilsusie wrote: anyone have any questions for bisu? quick! i need 2 questions WHY DO YOU HAVE TO CHANGE YOUR PVZ STYLE? WHAT IS WRONG WITH IT? WHAT ARE YOU PLANNING TO DO? | ||
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Pooshlmer
United States1001 Posts
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exkgb
United States504 Posts
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StrikeFLOW
United States369 Posts
On January 18 2009 19:09 lilsusie wrote: anyone have any questions for bisu? quick! i need 2 questions Was he disappointed? | ||
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United States434 Posts
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ambit!ous1
United States3662 Posts
On January 18 2009 19:06 Raithed wrote: bisu gets to rape jangbi again LOL. i dont know.... Jangbi is playing really well and he now knows how Bisu's pvp is from last MSL but Jangbi has to beat Free first | ||
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SaveYourSavior
United States1071 Posts
Did you have any anxiety going into the match against SkyHigh? | ||
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KwarK
United States42682 Posts
On January 18 2009 18:08 Kwark wrote: If Bisu wins can you ask him about his losses and how he allocated practice time for the 3 leagues. Curious whether he prioritised Gom practice because the opponent was stronger, the money better and his pvz strong already. | ||
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Puosu
6985 Posts
How confident was he in facing SkyHigh, was he expecting the 3-0? the standard questions. | ||
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Aesop
Hungary11291 Posts
On January 18 2009 19:09 lilsusie wrote: anyone have any questions for bisu? quick! i need 2 questions Well, maybe the usual 1. You have beaten both Jangbi and free in MSL. Who do you think wins, who do you want to face? 2. How important was today's match to you, given you were knocked out of BOTH other solo leagues? | ||
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Australia530 Posts
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L0thar
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.But seriously, pretty poor show from SkyHigh...eventhough the maps sucked hard, I don't think Bisu would have lost on balanced either. | ||
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Rostam
United States2552 Posts
On January 18 2009 19:09 lilsusie wrote: anyone have any questions for bisu? quick! i need 2 questions Ask him if he thinks his loss to by.hero in the OSL caused him to possibly play worse than he otherwise would have in his MSL group. On January 18 2009 19:11 Choros wrote: Fuck Bisu that rush was unnecessary all he did was deprive us of the possibility for some decent Starcraft. It makes me happy he was kicked out of both leagues. At the end of the day it is the fans that suffer because of this kind of disgraceful conduct, clearly Bisu has no honour. His job is to win. And it looked to me like he did that quite well. | ||
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Frits
11782 Posts
at least we wont see bisu again in MSL/OSL for awhile lol, no more knocking out my favorites | ||
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Puosu
6985 Posts
On January 18 2009 19:11 Choros wrote: Fuck Bisu that rush was unnecessary all he did was deprive us of the possibility for some decent Starcraft. It makes me happy he was kicked out of both leagues. At the end of the day it is the fans that suffer because of this kind of disgraceful conduct, clearly Bisu has no honour. Lol? You're stupid. | ||
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KwarK
United States42682 Posts
On January 18 2009 19:11 LimitlessSky wrote: Do you think you can win this MSL? Erm... I doubt it to be honest. | ||
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Signet
United States1718 Posts
Are finals going to be in 3 weeks or 4? | ||
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Lachrymose
Australia1928 Posts
On January 18 2009 19:08 NotSupporting wrote: Yea he is sooooooo terrible man, I mean he did absolutely not make it to the ro4 in a tournament with 100+ players, and he is absolutely not the best terran arguably the player in CJ and he is abosutly not very new and he has now future THAN YOU MAN FOR YOU GREAT INSIGHT! so you're trying to say skyhigh is better than flash and leta? | ||
Rekrul
Korea (South)17174 Posts
LOLOLOLOLLOLOFSDJKLFFJLKDJLK:SFDJL:FD:LKD | ||
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mog87
United States1586 Posts
On January 18 2009 19:11 Choros wrote: Fuck Bisu that rush was unnecessary all he did was deprive us of the possibility for some decent Starcraft. It makes me happy he was kicked out of both leagues. At the end of the day it is the fans that suffer because of this kind of disgraceful conduct, clearly Bisu has no honour. lol thats a bit much, but his lameness was rewarded with a boot from the starleagues by zerg. However as ive said before he still kinda hsa the last laugh. 1) an all terran group and 2) a berth in the gom finals. Go free or jangbi I guess. | ||
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LimitlessSky
United States434 Posts
I kinda think Bisu losing is a possibility but Bisu has time since he's no longer in OSL/MSL...and PL is the only thing on his plate with this MSL. | ||
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NotSupporting
Sweden1998 Posts
Is this you first time watching Skyhigh or what? - His first game broadcast in late 2007, he has about a year of experience at proleague - He made it to round of 4, lucky? He took out BeSt last week - One of CJs top players, took out Leta a few days ago | ||
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abakben
United States308 Posts
On January 18 2009 19:11 Choros wrote: Fuck Bisu that rush was unnecessary all he did was deprive us of the possibility for some decent Starcraft. It makes me happy he was kicked out of both leagues. At the end of the day it is the fans that suffer because of this kind of disgraceful conduct, clearly Bisu has no honour. Please just shut up. | ||
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BanZu
United States3329 Posts
On January 18 2009 19:11 Choros wrote: Fuck Bisu that rush was unnecessary all he did was deprive us of the possibility for some decent Starcraft. It makes me happy he was kicked out of both leagues. At the end of the day it is the fans that suffer because of this kind of disgraceful conduct, clearly Bisu has no honour. What the frick are you talking about? You're a CJ fan, that automatically makes you biased seeing as how I'm a Bisu/SKT fan and I found that last game extremely well played and entertaining. Stop pissing your pants | ||
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Puosu
6985 Posts
wtf is this hahahaha | ||
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sushiman
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mog87
United States1586 Posts
On January 18 2009 19:12 Lachrymose wrote: so you're trying to say skyhigh is better than flash and leta? reading comprehension..who needs it?!? | ||
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United States369 Posts
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L0thar
987 Posts
On January 18 2009 19:09 lilsusie wrote: anyone have any questions for bisu? quick! i need 2 questions 1) How are you gonna enjoy upcoming MSL? 2) How are you gonna enjoy upcoming OSL? + Show Spoiler + ok, that was mean, but I couldn't resist... | ||
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Aesop
Hungary11291 Posts
On January 18 2009 19:14 StrikeFLOW wrote: Wait, so is there going to be an interview? Posted on the site later, as usual, I would suspect. | ||
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Puosu
6985 Posts
On January 18 2009 19:14 StrikeFLOW wrote: Wait, so is there going to be an interview? It will be released on the site later on, like always. | ||
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United States3564 Posts
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mog87
United States1586 Posts
On January 18 2009 19:09 lilsusie wrote: anyone have any questions for bisu? quick! i need 2 questions Ask him if he will watch that boring all terran group he created for the MSL? | ||
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StrikeFLOW
United States369 Posts
On January 18 2009 19:15 Puosu wrote: It will be released on the site later on, like always. Oh, i got my hopes up that there would be one of those after game interviews, with boxer and jaedong. :[ | ||
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Hyperionnn
Turkey4968 Posts
On January 18 2009 19:11 Choros wrote: Fuck Bisu that rush was unnecessary all he did was deprive us of the possibility for some decent Starcraft. It makes me happy he was kicked out of both leagues. At the end of the day it is the fans that suffer because of this kind of disgraceful conduct, clearly Bisu has no honour. lol, you fail | ||
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Kentor
United States5784 Posts
On January 18 2009 19:11 Choros wrote: Fuck Bisu that rush was unnecessary all he did was deprive us of the possibility for some decent Starcraft. It makes me happy he was kicked out of both leagues. At the end of the day it is the fans that suffer because of this kind of disgraceful conduct, clearly Bisu has no honour. Man I loved that last game. It was so beautifully executed. Man I love starcraft. | ||
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darkemperor
Turkey725 Posts
Everybody can make mistakes | ||
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Sentenal
United States12398 Posts
On January 18 2009 19:11 Choros wrote: Fuck Bisu that rush was unnecessary all he did was deprive us of the possibility for some decent Starcraft. It makes me happy he was kicked out of both leagues. At the end of the day it is the fans that suffer because of this kind of disgraceful conduct, clearly Bisu has no honour. Yeah, how dare Bisu rape a vastly inferior opponent and just ended the game, he should drawn it out, teched to Dark Archons, MCed an SCV, and massed a Terran army. And then maybe he could throw the game, and the following one, so we could have a 5 game series. | ||
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KwarK
United States42682 Posts
On January 18 2009 19:13 LimitlessSky wrote: I kinda think Bisu losing is a possibility but Bisu has time since he's no longer in OSL/MSL...and PL is the only thing on his plate with this MSL. He's no longer in MSL so the only thing on his plate with this MSL..... | ||
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Xstatic
United States765 Posts
So tell me, what's with all the Bisu hate? Sure he failed hard against zerg this season, but his PvT is stellar and he's sniping terran players left and right. The man is a true fighter, unlike some others I could name. And when you have an entire race following in your shadow, copying your tactics against zerg and trying to adapt them, that's just testament to your greatness. | ||
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United States434 Posts
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Magic84
Russian Federation1381 Posts
Bisu, what a beast, how could you fail so terribly in osm/msl, it's confusing. I hope he will improve in his strats, that it will teach him a lesson, you can't dominate this game without any improvement just riding your old strats. Skyhigh, thanks for preventing all P semis, that would be bad, but these games vs Bisu it was even worse than P mirror. Such rapes. | ||
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ScoutWBF
Germany602 Posts
On January 18 2009 19:32 jwd241224 wrote: Wow Bisu...so streaky lately! yeah, that's why he's out of OSL and MSL :D | ||
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Turkey4968 Posts
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NotSupporting
Sweden1998 Posts
I am looking forward more to the next season compared to the finals. | ||
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abakben
United States308 Posts
On January 18 2009 19:37 Hyperionnn wrote: Ironically, Bisu's best mu become his worst mu lately, he needs to change his style imo and better zerg practice partners. Actually I prefer this way since there are way more terran opponents than zerg ones. He did not even play vs Z in the last MSL. | ||
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strongwind
United States862 Posts
keep it up KTY | ||
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We Are Here
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abakben
United States308 Posts
On January 18 2009 19:50 We Are Here wrote: pvp is art, why do ppl hate it They are just haters. One thing I love about PvP is haters usually do not watch the games live so that we do not need to read their ridiculous comments | ||
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DoX.)
Singapore6164 Posts
On January 18 2009 19:50 We Are Here wrote: pvp is art, why do ppl hate it There is a limit.. 8 PvP sets in the last MSL can be quite taxing on the viewers | ||
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Kentor
United States5784 Posts
On January 18 2009 19:50 We Are Here wrote: pvp is art, why do ppl hate it agreed, especially between dragons! | ||
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Australia4040 Posts
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dongfeng
731 Posts
also a wider variety of matchups is better lastly speaking from personal preference i like watching different races battle so its not killing ur own race kind of thing | ||
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DoX.)
Singapore6164 Posts
Sorry had to ask | ||
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Puosu
6985 Posts
On January 18 2009 20:20 DoX.) wrote: Btw to those who watched the games were the no of people in the audience countable with one hand? Sorry had to ask Nope! They actually did have an audience this time thanks to Bisu's massive amounts of fans, there wasnt that many views of the audience but it definitely looked almost full. Could be some awesome camera trickery though. | ||
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Nylan
United States795 Posts
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Creationism
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NotSupporting
Sweden1998 Posts
On January 18 2009 20:48 Creationism wrote: man, skyhigh didn't have a slight chance... if bisu can beat flash, which he did fucking twice, there was no way skyhigh was gonna win, just no way. I think you need to look at it separately tho. In my opoinion Bisu has figured Flash out, he knows his plays style and in the last games he played a perfect counter to it. This does not necessary mean that Bisu has figured out a way to beat all Terrans, after all Flash style is a bit different. But after all, Skyhigh is so new to the scene that anything else than Bisu winning would have been a huge upset. To people who say Skyhigh is a terrible terran and played like shit today: this is only the beginning, Skyhigh has showed what he can do and he will be lethal in the future, watch out. | ||
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GeLaar
2421 Posts
On January 18 2009 20:27 Puosu wrote: Nope! They actually did have an audience this time thanks to Bisu's massive amounts of fans, there wasnt that many views of the audience but it definitely looked almost full. Could be some awesome camera trickery though. i am really not sure anymore that he has this "massive" amount of fans. i've been to two of his games vs savior (the osl games last year and the msl game on thursday), and the room was packed with savior fans, and the cheers all went out to savior. on thursday people actually started leaving after bisu's game vs magma. they didn't even stay to see if he'd qualify. you could argue that savior is just more popular but even so, bisu's supposed fans should make their presence felt more. speaking of which, i'm never going to one of savior's games again. his fans are fucking crazy. i don't think it even comes across in the vods how loud they are. and have you ever tried staying next to the schoolgirl who screams the "1, 2, 3 majaeyun hwaiting!"? i thought my eardrums had burst. rant aside, congrats to bisu for a redeeming series. i'll be a fan regardless of whether he wins or not. | ||
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Proposal
United States1310 Posts
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writer22816
United States5775 Posts
On January 18 2009 21:47 Proposal wrote: Another Bisu vs Jangbi Finals upcoming? Or Bisu vs Free like Clubday ideally should have been as the finals. | ||
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Zalfor
United States1035 Posts
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foeffa
Belgium2115 Posts
Funny how his PvZ became his weakest mu, confirmed of all people against MJY but not surprising I guess since he became the kid to beat for all zergs. And wtf is up with people calling Skyhigh bad ... yeah he lost this series pretty badly due to some poor decision making but Bisu has been a monster PvT/¨PvP and Skyhigh has already shown a lot of promise. I hope he develops his agressive style to a trademark style that wins a starleague. ^^ | ||
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zer0das
United States8519 Posts
I guess his picks are coming around these days... Was pretty much expecting a 3-0. Bisu is fine mechanically, he just had some lapses in judgment/scouting (and his opponents played really well on the whole). Think most of the "Bisu is slumping" was wishful fanboy thinking... of course if he loses the finals, I get the feeling that it's going to be even worse. Although I don't know what in the world Skyhigh was doing game 1... kill the zealot or some probes when you have a bit of an advantage, don't wait! | ||
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Piste
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disciple
9070 Posts
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Frits
11782 Posts
The whole pandabear guy thing, it annoys me to the point that I just turn on music and watch it without the casting. Seriously, was this ever funny? It feels like a joke that went completely out of hand. Im soooooooo sick of hearing about the pandabear guy and stupid superstitious "if you kill it you're gonna lose" bullshit, I just hate it. Maybe that's just me. | ||
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tomatriedes
New Zealand5356 Posts
On January 18 2009 23:49 Frits wrote: Okay since there's not much to talk about gamewise anymore, skyhigh played terrible, bisu played well, little things that annoy me about the casting: The whole pandabear guy thing, it annoys me to the point that I just turn on music and watch it without the casting. Seriously, was this ever funny? It feels like a joke that went completely out of hand. Im soooooooo sick of hearing about the pandabear guy and stupid superstitious "if you kill it you're gonna lose" bullshit, I just hate it. Maybe that's just me. Yeah I just watch it with the Korean commentary on gomtv.com now. That thing is quite clearly a polar bear if anything. For me this whole Gom season has lacked excitement really. | ||
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Cambium
United States16368 Posts
On January 18 2009 23:49 Frits wrote: Okay since there's not much to talk about gamewise anymore, skyhigh played terrible, bisu played well, little things that annoy me about the casting: The whole pandabear guy thing, it annoys me to the point that I just turn on music and watch it without the casting. Seriously, was this ever funny? It feels like a joke that went completely out of hand. Im soooooooo sick of hearing about the pandabear guy and stupid superstitious "if you kill it you're gonna lose" bullshit, I just hate it. Maybe that's just me. Yea, I agree. From a professional standpoint, I think it's pretty unacceptable to impose a stupid superstition like that. | ||
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littlechava
United States7218 Posts
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Atrioc
United States1865 Posts
not even 3-2 or anything, just boring 3-0 rape into more PvP even if bisu won everyone of those games on skill alone, this is still the shittiest map pool ever | ||
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drift0ut
United Kingdom691 Posts
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KOFgokuon
United States14893 Posts
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Maenander
Germany4926 Posts
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Liquid`Jinro
Sweden33719 Posts
On January 19 2009 00:07 Cambium wrote: Yea, I agree. From a professional standpoint, I think it's pretty unacceptable to impose a stupid superstition like that. ???? Whaaaaat? It's not like he's serious about it. | ||
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DoctorHelvetica
United States15034 Posts
Whoever gets picked to win by that one OGN caster always loses If you interview Themarine before a game you lose etc. | ||
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eshlow
United States5210 Posts
On January 19 2009 01:07 Maenander wrote: Why are so many people confused about Bisus performances? PvT and PvZ are very different, he just doesn´t have the edge he once had over zerg players anymore. Maybe he set his priorities on his PvT/PvP, and it paid off, even if he lost some of his old PvZ strength. He was so unreliable before, especially versus terrans. Well, more like he has good P and T practice partners in SKT... but no good zergs to practice with. He needs to find better practice partners -- thezerg, s2, etc. aren't gonna cut it. | ||
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arcticStorm
United States295 Posts
Wow, just watched game 1. Ultimate cheese fail. Do you think skyhigh would have won the game if he had scouted Bisu's base sooner? | ||
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EleanorRIgby
Canada3923 Posts
On January 19 2009 01:47 eshlow wrote: I agree.. the panda bear superstition is just funny. I don't think it's worth getting your panties in a bunch over... Well, more like he has good P and T practice partners in SKT... but no good zergs to practice with. He needs to find better practice partners -- thezerg, s2, etc. aren't gonna cut it. at all, they probably cant even practice all ins against him rofl | ||
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darkemperor
Turkey725 Posts
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NotSupporting
Sweden1998 Posts
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Avidkeystamper
United States8552 Posts
On January 18 2009 18:02 Samurai- wrote: i dont wanna go into this discussion, but players said them selves , like flash etc.. that they dont really have time to practice for GOM, but you go ahead, and believe what you want.. Well, the players obviously care since last season, when GOM wasn't sanctioned, Flash practiced soley for the finals, he said he didn't even care about the WCGs. So it's situational, it's not a hard-set rule that players care less for GOM. | ||
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EleanorRIgby
Canada3923 Posts
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sajrus
Poland89 Posts
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Puosu
6985 Posts
On January 19 2009 03:02 EleanorRIgby wrote: GOM is so shit this season i bet you blame that on the communists | ||
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Fontong
United States6454 Posts
"What are you going to do for Chinese New Year?" "I'm gonna go fishing." hehehe | ||
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Dgtl
Canada889 Posts
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DreaM)XeRO
Korea (South)4667 Posts
i hope Bisu is not slumping... that would fuck up my day | ||
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Boblion
France8043 Posts
but <3 Super Daniel, the panda bear and Tasteless. Oh and Susie | ||
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LemOn
United Kingdom8629 Posts
The result is his defeat in both starleagues and boring rape in gom TT | ||
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mog87
United States1586 Posts
On January 19 2009 04:11 LemOn wrote: Bisu was clearly preparing for this semifinals and neglected Ro32 in Other Starleagues. The result is his defeat in both starleagues and boring rape in gom TT lol nice spin there. | ||
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JIJIyO
Canada1957 Posts
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GGQ
Canada2653 Posts
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Beamo
France1279 Posts
On January 19 2009 00:07 Cambium wrote: Yea, I agree. From a professional standpoint, I think it's pretty unacceptable to impose a stupid superstition like that. ... I think he sees this as big joke. It's far less superstition then the OSL curse or the Protoss winning in fall in which way more people tend to believe... | ||
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LemOn
United Kingdom8629 Posts
On January 19 2009 05:53 Beamo wrote: ... I think he sees this as big joke. It's far less superstition then the OSL curse or the Protoss winning in fall in which way more people tend to believe... I am just a casual GomTV watcher (and I have seen just 4ish games on Destination) and I must say that its still funny for me. Bringing something Interesting into casting is always good, and although it will piss off 10% of people, the rest will be either untouched or even positive towards it. Superstitious or not, when the 'Teddy Bear guy' (-Daniel Lee, 2009) died, I was suddenly rooting for Bisu. | ||
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Ethelis
United States2396 Posts
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Slikk
Norway81 Posts
Jangbi will easily take down Free in the other semifinal and then Bisu is going to slam Jangbi once again. That powerrank is just stupid, although I'm quite afraid of Bisu's recent form in PvZ. I almost fainted when I saw the 2-0 loss against by.hero, then just a week later he turned up in a all Z group and lost. And yes, he sucked! | ||
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Heyoka
Katowice25012 Posts
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GHOSTCLAW
United States17042 Posts
On January 19 2009 03:14 Dgtl wrote: Looks like those losses in the OSL and MSL were just coincidences. Or maybe Bisu just sucks at pvz and rocks and pvp/pvt now o_0 I guess so. More interesting is the fact that he's either playing a bo5 against either jangbi or free, so he should have a good idea of what to expect no matter what | ||
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ArvickHero
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ilistis
United States828 Posts
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p4NDemik
United States13896 Posts
On January 19 2009 02:36 NotSupporting wrote: The panda bear guy joke was funny the first 58 times, now it's just annoying. ![[image loading]](http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3094/3095322041_e1f46cc83f_o.jpg) All all the dead panda bear guys ... the humanity! | ||
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isbunk
Sweden1017 Posts
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Lebesgue
4542 Posts
And another tournament will be won by a Toss... | ||
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[X]Ken_D
United States4650 Posts
On January 18 2009 23:49 Frits wrote: Okay since there's not much to talk about gamewise anymore, skyhigh played terrible, bisu played well, little things that annoy me about the casting: The whole pandabear guy thing, it annoys me to the point that I just turn on music and watch it without the casting. Seriously, was this ever funny? It feels like a joke that went completely out of hand. Im soooooooo sick of hearing about the pandabear guy and stupid superstitious "if you kill it you're gonna lose" bullshit, I just hate it. Maybe that's just me. I find the "pandabear guy" comment by Tasteless amusing. Korean Starcraft is full of superstition. Legend of the Fall, OSL curse, etc. | ||
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[X]Ken_D
United States4650 Posts
1. anti-cheese defend 2. 14 nexus, reaver to carriers 3. manual labor shuttle SkyHigh never got into his normal timing when Bisu did everything SkyHigh wasn't expecting. Had Flash been in another bracket, the finals would likely be Bisu vs Flash in a best of 5. | ||
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beboppin
United States5 Posts
On January 19 2009 09:04 [X]Ken_D wrote: I find the "pandabear guy" comment by Tasteless amusing. Korean Starcraft is full of superstition. Legend of the Fall, OSL curse, etc. I find it amusing as well. Everyone has his/her own opinion and the popular vote should probably influence how the casts are done going forward, but, Tasteless, if you are reading this, you have made me laugh out loud on several occasions. Please continue to do what you have been doing. | ||
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isbunk
Sweden1017 Posts
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Seraphim
United States4467 Posts
On January 19 2009 08:06 ArvickHero wrote: Bisu traded his godly PvZ skills for godly PvP/PvT skills My thoughts exactly~ | ||
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muramasa
Canada1299 Posts
Jangbi for GOM champ! | ||
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deathgod6
United States5064 Posts
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erin[go]bragh
United States815 Posts
Good to see Bisu is keeping his composure. Anyone who expected Bisu to drop off the earth after a a couple bad vZ games were seriously getting ahead of themselves... | ||
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Shikyo
Finland33997 Posts
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deathgod6
United States5064 Posts
On January 19 2009 16:32 Shikyo wrote: What bothers me about the pandabearguy joke is that it's not a panda bear at all, but a polar bear. Seems like Bisu's worst MU is PvZ now, but probably for just a while. I'm sure he'll be able to revamp it (For example taking a few things off Kal's book) so that the Z's can't counter it so well, and he should be doing well again. Ya the panda bear guy thing was kind of strange at first since it is like you said a polar bear. W/e you get used to it. | ||
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qrs
United States3637 Posts
On January 19 2009 08:21 []p4NDemik[] wrote: All all the dead panda bear guys ... the humanity! nice pic it's not a polar bear either: it's a brown bear | ||
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BanZu
United States3329 Posts
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RisingTide
Australia769 Posts
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KwarK
United States42682 Posts
On January 19 2009 20:05 RisingTide wrote: While on the topic of pandabearguy, does anyone know if theres ever been a game where a progamer detonates a critter? It's impossible. | ||
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LemOn
United Kingdom8629 Posts
On January 19 2009 09:10 [X]Ken_D wrote: Bisu showed again why he is one of the top Dragons along with Stork. His play is so dynamic. 1. anti-cheese defend 2. 12 nexus, reaver to carriers 3. manual labor shuttle SkyHigh never got into his normal timing when Bisu did everything SkyHigh wasn't expecting. Had Flash been in another bracket, the finals would likely be Bisu vs Flash in a best of 5. Fixed. But your point is right, Bisu was simply better prepared. It seemed to me that SkyHigh was practicing against Bisu's usual strategies, only to find out that he completely changed them. This Bisu reminded me more of Much in game 2 and 3 rather than his old Bisu PvT Style, with his pimp carriers and rush on Colloseum. But SkyHigh was still playing the old Bisu. Bisu's change is probably the reason for his defeat in other starleagues. He definitely uses different Bo's and style than before, and although the transition is visibly painful it is the only way for him to stay on top. Boxer had to reinvent himself, Nada had to do the same, and even Savior found out that his old dominating strategies no longer even grant him a spot in a Starleague... Mind Control. At least Daniel and Tasteless sated that a MC'ed critter is destroyed, so you have to parasite it in order to have a spy on the map. And I have no Idea who has done that in a game, and I would love to see that too | ||
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diehilde
Germany1596 Posts
btw I dont care that Skyhigh beat best. He surely played very good in that series. But what does it matter? He obviously isnt consistent enough to play on that level every time cus against bisu, he played like a mediocre noname terran (which he actually was only months ago) at best. | ||
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Liquid`Jinro
Sweden33719 Posts
Yeah, maybe he's not as dominating as he was a month ago but it certainly seems like he's got his PvT/PvP under control. | ||
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Avidkeystamper
United States8552 Posts
On January 19 2009 22:31 damenmofa wrote: omg the amount of blind bisu fanboyism is unbelievable... skyhigh fucked up big time and bisu played acceptable to take this weak opponent out. If Bisu would have beaten skyhigh 3 weeks ago and then proceed to lose msl/osl qualifiers people couldnt have argued that he simply isnt at the top of his game right now. Just because things happened the other way around people suddenly talk like bisu is the no.1 again. No he isnt. Even if he wins Gom, his massive failure in osl/msl was not a random fluke, but a sign of weakness. Bisu is not at the top of his game right now, beating a very unimpressive Skyhigh on P maps 3-0 doesnt change that. btw I dont care that Skyhigh beat best. He surely played very good in that series. But what does it matter? He obviously isnt consistent enough to play on that level every time cus against bisu, he played like a mediocre noname terran (which he actually was only months ago) at best. Of course if he beat SkyHigh recently it's better than the other way around, because it's more recent, duh. It means that he's performed better recently. Also, he has shown nothing but invincibility in vP and vT, it's absolutely sickening. He becomes stagnated in vZ, loses 4 matches, and people say god he sucks? Anti-Bisu fanboyism is incredible. | ||
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Signet
United States1718 Posts
On January 19 2009 22:31 damenmofa wrote: Even if he wins Gom, his massive failure in osl/msl was not a random fluke, but a sign of weakness. Bisu is not at the top of his game right now, beating a very unimpressive Skyhigh on P maps 3-0 doesnt change that. Maps played a role in both his wins and losses, if you're going to take that into account for one you have to for the other as well. Tears of the Moon and Neo Harmony both are off to >70% ZvP starts. (I don't think maps really determined either outcome, just sayin...) btw I dont care that Skyhigh beat best. He surely played very good in that series. But what does it matter? He obviously isnt consistent enough to play on that level every time cus against bisu, he played like a mediocre noname terran (which he actually was only months ago) at best. Unproven yes, but GOM could very well be skyhigh's first of many successful tourneys to come. He beat Leta a few days after beating Best, has a win against Kal too. | ||
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Liquid`Jinro
Sweden33719 Posts
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gn0m
Sweden302 Posts
On January 19 2009 22:31 damenmofa wrote: omg the amount of blind bisu fanboyism is unbelievable... skyhigh fucked up big time and bisu played acceptable to take this weak opponent out. If Bisu would have beaten skyhigh 3 weeks ago and then proceed to lose msl/osl qualifiers people couldnt have argued that he simply isnt at the top of his game right now. Just because things happened the other way around people suddenly talk like bisu is the no.1 again. No he isnt. Even if he wins Gom, his massive failure in osl/msl was not a random fluke, but a sign of weakness. Bisu is not at the top of his game right now, beating a very unimpressive Skyhigh on P maps 3-0 doesnt change that. Why would 4 losses versus zerg say more about Bisus current form than a 1st place in a huge tournament..? Of course the most recent matches says more about the current form of the player. Also, if you are saying that Bisu can win GOMTV and still not be on the top of his game, then I say kudos to Bisu. | ||
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[X]Ken_D
United States4650 Posts
On January 19 2009 22:14 LemOn wrote: Bisu's change is probably the reason for his defeat in other starleagues. He definitely uses different Bo's and style than before, and although the transition is visibly painful it is the only way for him to stay on top. I don't really think Bisu playing worse was why he got eliminated in other leagues. It is more the zerg has gotten better rather than Bisu playing slightly worse. Zerg strategies are changing to counter the protoss ball. It is similar to when Bisu 3-0 Savior and Savior was playing bad when in fact he is still using same strategy that won for him. It wasn't until after that people realize that it was in fact, Savior's opponent was playing better. A dark age of pvz may be coming soon or at least a setback. | ||
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BanZu
United States3329 Posts
1. Zerg players have gotten a lot better, even though the superior Terran Mech and Protoss players have managed to mask that with their wins. 2. Zerg players have finally undermined Bisu's style (for example, I felt that in Bisu vs Effort on Medusa that Bisu looked far from invincible). 3. Bisu is having trouble with Zergs because of the lack of good practice partners (SKT Zergs lol) 4. Bisu was overconfident in his matches against by.hero and sAviOr and therefore didn't practice much. Either that or played risky (not sure about this as I haven't actually watched the matches) due to underestimating his opponents. 5. Coincidence/bad day/etc,etc | ||
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imperfect
Canada1652 Posts
On January 20 2009 12:51 BanZu wrote: Possibilities: 1. Zerg players have gotten a lot better, even though the superior Terran Mech and Protoss players have managed to mask that with their wins. 2. Zerg players have finally undermined Bisu's style (for example, I felt that in Bisu vs Effort on Medusa that Bisu looked far from invincible). 3. Bisu is having trouble with Zergs because of the lack of good practice partners (SKT Zergs lol) 4. Bisu was overconfident in his matches against by.hero and sAviOr and therefore didn't practice much. Either that or played risky (not sure about this as I haven't actually watched the matches) due to underestimating his opponents. 5. Coincidence/bad day/etc,etc god i hope it isn't 3 or 4. i'd rather have bisu beat by having his play studied, but dropping his pvz because of lack of good Z partners is just ridiculous. not that this could be it or anything, but if that was the case.. | ||
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erin[go]bragh
United States815 Posts
Same thing happened to Flash in last MSL, it just happens sometimes. | ||
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StRyKeR
United States1739 Posts
Come on, bisu does the bisu build like 99.99999% of his pvzs. I'm sure Bisu prepared for the matches (although not as hard for his other matches since his pvz is the best MU and that must be partly why he wanted an all zerg group). Zergs finally took a hint and started hard-core countering it with prepared builds. | ||
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KwarK
United States42682 Posts
On January 20 2009 17:12 StRyKeR wrote: What happened was that zergs going against bisu prepared extra-hard to counter the bisu build. Come on, bisu does the bisu build like 99.99999% of his pvzs. I'm sure Bisu prepared for the matches (although not as hard for his other matches since his pvz is the best MU and that must be partly why he wanted an all zerg group). Zergs finally took a hint and started hard-core countering it with prepared builds. Bisu did dark drop rush vs ZerO and suicided his first 2 sairs so instead of darksair harassing ZerOs main it was 2 darks running in circles from a few muta. It wasn't the classic bisu build, it was just a really bad build. | ||
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