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Person514cs
1004 Posts
But the problems is control large amount of lings effectively late game. You got to remember one control group is only 12 units. How on earth are you going to move around hundreds of lings at the same time and make them attack in a coordinated fashion while still in control of few groups of mutas? While controlling 4,5 groups of Goliath, vultures and one groups of tanks is relatively easy. | ||
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Kacas
Brazil3143 Posts
xD we need more zergs =( | ||
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KnightOfNi
United States1508 Posts
As much as I love Medusa, I hate that Terrans are all going mech on it  . | ||
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freelander
Hungary4707 Posts
On January 02 2009 23:53 GTR-2-Go wrote: Does anyone here notice that the person who qualifies is always in the left booth? Has happened for all groups. the 2P joystick of the cabinet is broken where is the operator | ||
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Djabanete
United States2786 Posts
Also, why are people so quick to complain about the new TvZ? MnM was the standard for about a million years, a lot of people still use it, and in all likelihood the pendulum will swing back eventually anyway. Just enjoy the metal while it lasts --- I for one find it interesting to watch. Mech TvZ has a lot of variations that haven't yet been fully explored, unlike MnM which has been very static lately (except for the Queens  ). Right now the state of the game seems to reward the smart player who can adapt on the fly and who can outguess his opponent, which is always fun. | ||
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loupouk
France105 Posts
massing hydra when behind economicaly instead of taking expand fast when flash has only 3 tank and can't be agressive at all and then dropping on a camping terran is not what I call played well. Even if i want more zerg in OSL, zerg playing like that deserve to be raped by flash. | ||
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Doso
Germany769 Posts
On January 03 2009 07:31 KnightOfNi wrote: F@#k you Flash I wanted a Zerg... As much as I love Medusa, I hate that Terrans are all going mech on it .You usually get raped if you don't so... mech is a must :[ | ||
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L0thar
987 Posts
On January 03 2009 07:54 Djabanete wrote: Also, why are people so quick to complain about the new TvZ? MnM was the standard for about a million years, a lot of people still use it, and in all likelihood the pendulum will swing back eventually anyway. Just enjoy the metal while it lasts --- I for one find it interesting to watch. Mech TvZ has a lot of variations that haven't yet been fully explored, unlike MnM which has been very static lately (except for the Queens ). Right now the state of the game seems to reward the smart player who can adapt on the fly and who can outguess his opponent, which is always fun.Nah, in most cases it has nothing to do with mech in TvZ. Just some zerg fanboys/terran haters are upset because another zerg got raped by terran. And the fact that the terran is Flash is making it much worse for some individuals. Medusa was looking seriously imba for zerg (8:2 in first 10 matches) and now it's 6:4 in last 10 games in favor of terran. So it seems like zergs are loosing another playground which looked so promising at the begging. It doesn't matter what you do in TvZ, you will always be the bad one for some people. Bunker rush? How dare you, you cheeser! Standard play? You are just another boring generic terran. SK Terran? Battlecruisers? You are just abusing imba units. 2 port wraith? You are just abusing lack of viable scouting zerg has early game. Mech? Just look in this thread .On a different note, I feel bad for Magma. He would certainly raped for example Tester, but had to run into Flash instead... | ||
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infinity2k9
United Kingdom2397 Posts
Some of the top zerg do well still of course but it seems like any small mistake and the game is over for them and they have to play at an overall higher skill level to stand a chance. I know map sometimes can be a factor in this prehaps. If you can explain to me some reasons why im wrong id like it, i dont like to just say imba but to me it really seems that way. edit: maybe this infact is a silly game to comment on as its the best terran possible. i think my point kinda still stands in some way though  | ||
MrHoon
10183 Posts
다음은 이영호와의 일문일답 - 6회 연속 16강 진출 소감 - This is the 6th time in a row you've been to OSL RO16 ▲ 스타리그 6회 연속으로 올라갔는데 이제 2회 우승 할 때가 된 것 같다. 이번에 반드시 우승하겠다. ▲ This is my 6th time and I think its about time I need to win an OSL. I will make sure I will win. - 메카닉 전략으로 승리했는데 - You used mech this time ▲ 요새는 그냥 메카닉을 하면 안되고 약간 변형시켜야 한다. 그게 잘 먹힌 것 같다. 상대가 철저히 대비해왔을 텐데 첫 경기에서 패해서 당황한 것 같다. ▲ These days you can't just use metal builds, you have to keep on changing it. I think it worked very well. Magma probably did really hard to prepare against this build but probably dropped the ball after the first game - 첫 세트 센터 배럭 전략을 선택했다. - At the first set you prepared a center rax ▲ 배럭 위치를 다 계산해온 것이다. 벙커링 이후 메카닉 전략까지 이미 준비되어 있었다. ▲ I calculated the barrack location. After the bunkering the metal was already in progress - 상대의 드롭 공격을 완벽하게 막아냈는데 - You blocked the drop perfectly ▲ 스캔으로 더블 레어인 것을 확인했다. 그래서 드롭을 예상하고 방어한 것이다. ▲ I scanned and found a double lair. I knew I would get dropped so I defended. - 두 번째 경기에서는 방어력 업그레이드를 했다. - You upgraded armor first at the 2nd set ▲ 2해처리인 줄 알고 방어를 했다. 뮤탈리스크를 상대하기 좋도록 한 것인데 멀티를 해서 당황했다. ▲ I thought it was 2hatch so I defended. It was done so I can block mutalisks well but I was shocked to see a multi going up - 메카닉 전략 어떤지 - How do you feel about mech builds? ▲ 연습 때는 많이 졌다. 메카닉이 방송에서는 쌔 보이지만 정말 잘하는 저그들과 하면 경기 양상이 다르다. 그래서 이제는 슬슬 메카닉을 사용하기 힘들 것 같다. 메카닉이 힘들어지면 다시 바이오닉 할 것이다. 난 원래 바이오닉 유저이고 오늘은 그냥 한번 메카닉을 해 본 것이다. ▲ When I practiced, I lost alot. Whenever I did Metal builds against good zerg players it was very difficult. So I believe it is going to be hard to use mech builds now. I will probably go bionic again. I was always known for my bionic plays anyways, so I thought I would try my metal just for today. - 우승에 가장 걸림돌이 될 것 같은 선수는 - Which player(s) do you think will be the hardest this OSL? ▲ (신)상문이형이 요새 잘하고 있어서 어렵고, (이)제동이 형이 올라온다면 제동이형이나 아니면 육룡이 어려운 상대가 될 것 같다. ▲ Leta is so good these days so he will be hard, if Jaedong gets to RO16 definately him, and anyone from the 6 dragons. - 16강에서 맞붙고 싶은 선수가 있다면 - Players you want to face at RO16 ▲ 나를 이겼던 선수들이 올라온다면 지목해서 이기겠다. (김)준영이형도 그 대상에 들어가 있다. 복수를 해야 할 선수가 많다. ▲ Players who beat me to get up higher. I will target them. GGplay is one of the main ones. I must have my revenge! - 새해 인사 한마디 - Anything for the new years? ▲ 팬 분들 응원해주셔서 감사 드린다. 이번 일요일에 (김)택용이형과 경기가 있는데 연습을 못해서 좀 아쉽지만 남은 시간 동안 열심히 준비해서 좋은 경기력으로 찾아 뵙겠다. ▲ I want to thank all my fans. This sunday I will be facing Bisu, but I couldn't practice for it so I feel bad. However I will practice really hard for that match in the time being. I will show everyone a good match. What we learned
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Highways
Australia6105 Posts
On January 03 2009 14:17 infinity2k9 wrote: a zerg player against a terran player of the same skill seemingly will lose as long as the terran plays a solid game with little mistakes. Spot on. Some people on this forum like to hide behind the 'Starcraft is perfectly balanced' and turn a blind eye on how much Terran is raping Zerg these days (and arguably forever). | ||
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loupouk
France105 Posts
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Warrior Madness
Canada3791 Posts
On January 03 2009 14:41 MrHoon wrote: Hey everyone Flash interview is up! Very interesting things about this [*] Flash did not have time to practice against bisu This worries me. Thanks for the translation Mr.Hoon. | ||
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Frits
11782 Posts
you'd better not lose against bisu Thanks for the translation MrHoon, you're awesome. | ||
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Lebesgue
4542 Posts
On January 03 2009 14:41 MrHoon wrote: Hey everyone Flash interview is up! Very interesting things about this 다음은 이영호와의 일문일답 - 6회 연속 16강 진출 소감 - This is the 6th time in a row you've been to OSL RO16 ▲ 스타리그 6회 연속으로 올라갔는데 이제 2회 우승 할 때가 된 것 같다. 이번에 반드시 우승하겠다. ▲ This is my 6th time and I think its about time I need to win an OSL. I will make sure I will win. - 메카닉 전략으로 승리했는데 - You used mech this time ▲ 요새는 그냥 메카닉을 하면 안되고 약간 변형시켜야 한다. 그게 잘 먹힌 것 같다. 상대가 철저히 대비해왔을 텐데 첫 경기에서 패해서 당황한 것 같다. ▲ These days you can't just use metal builds, you have to keep on changing it. I think it worked very well. Magma probably did really hard to prepare against this build but probably dropped the ball after the first game - 첫 세트 센터 배럭 전략을 선택했다. - At the first set you prepared a center rax ▲ 배럭 위치를 다 계산해온 것이다. 벙커링 이후 메카닉 전략까지 이미 준비되어 있었다. ▲ I calculated the barrack location. After the bunkering the metal was already in progress - 상대의 드롭 공격을 완벽하게 막아냈는데 - You blocked the drop perfectly ▲ 스캔으로 더블 레어인 것을 확인했다. 그래서 드롭을 예상하고 방어한 것이다. ▲ I scanned and found a double lair. I knew I would get dropped so I defended. - 두 번째 경기에서는 방어력 업그레이드를 했다. - You upgraded armor first at the 2nd set ▲ 2해처리인 줄 알고 방어를 했다. 뮤탈리스크를 상대하기 좋도록 한 것인데 멀티를 해서 당황했다. ▲ I thought it was 2hatch so I defended. It was done so I can block mutalisks well but I was shocked to see a multi going up - 메카닉 전략 어떤지 - How do you feel about mech builds? ▲ 연습 때는 많이 졌다. 메카닉이 방송에서는 쌔 보이지만 정말 잘하는 저그들과 하면 경기 양상이 다르다. 그래서 이제는 슬슬 메카닉을 사용하기 힘들 것 같다. 메카닉이 힘들어지면 다시 바이오닉 할 것이다. 난 원래 바이오닉 유저이고 오늘은 그냥 한번 메카닉을 해 본 것이다. ▲ When I practiced, I lost alot. Whenever I did Metal builds against good zerg players it was very difficult. So I believe it is going to be hard to use mech builds now. I will probably go bionic again. I was always known for my bionic plays anyways, so I thought I would try my metal just for today. - 우승에 가장 걸림돌이 될 것 같은 선수는 - Which player(s) do you think will be the hardest this OSL? ▲ (신)상문이형이 요새 잘하고 있어서 어렵고, (이)제동이 형이 올라온다면 제동이형이나 아니면 육룡이 어려운 상대가 될 것 같다. ▲ Leta is so good these days so he will be hard, if Jaedong gets to RO16 definately him, and anyone from the 6 dragons. - 16강에서 맞붙고 싶은 선수가 있다면 - Players you want to face at RO16 ▲ 나를 이겼던 선수들이 올라온다면 지목해서 이기겠다. (김)준영이형도 그 대상에 들어가 있다. 복수를 해야 할 선수가 많다. ▲ Players who beat me to get up higher. I will target them. GGplay is one of the main ones. I must have my revenge! - 새해 인사 한마디 - Anything for the new years? ▲ 팬 분들 응원해주셔서 감사 드린다. 이번 일요일에 (김)택용이형과 경기가 있는데 연습을 못해서 좀 아쉽지만 남은 시간 동안 열심히 준비해서 좋은 경기력으로 찾아 뵙겠다. ▲ I want to thank all my fans. This sunday I will be facing Bisu, but I couldn't practice for it so I feel bad. However I will practice really hard for that match in the time being. I will show everyone a good match. What we learned
Thank you for translating and providing this. It is really interesting interview and all mech haters should read it. | ||
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mog87
United States1586 Posts
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IPS.ZeRo
Germany1142 Posts
Very interesting that he thinks he is known for bionic play oO | ||
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zobz
Canada2175 Posts
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Djabanete
United States2786 Posts
On January 04 2009 01:30 Frits wrote: flash what the fuck you'd better not lose against bisu Thanks for the translation MrHoon, you're awesome. Although I share the sentiment, I find it amusing that you have a T1 icon. ^^ (And honestly I won't mind if Bisu wins as long as they're good games.) | ||
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MrHoon
10183 Posts
On January 04 2009 04:57 DTF-ZeRo wrote: wow thank you for your translations, i really appreciate that. Very interesting that he thinks he is known for bionic play oO his mnm micro and macro is amazing Sure he loses Zerg matches alot more than when he was at his prime, but have you seen him split his MNM? Its fucking amazing. | ||
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