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[OSL] Round of 36 - Group F

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motbob
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
United States12546 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-01-02 11:12:53
January 02 2009 05:19 GMT
#1
[image loading]
Credit to Pachi for the sweet banner


Set 1: (Z)maGma vs (P)SoO
+ Show Spoiler [Results] +

(Z)maGma > (P)SoO
(Z)maGma > (P)SoO
(Z)maGma <> (P)SoO


Set 2: (T)Flash vs. Winner of Set 1
+ Show Spoiler [Results] +
(T)Flash > (Z)maGma
(T)Flash > (Z)maGma
(T)Flash vs. (Z)maGma


Map Order: Tears of the Moon,
Medusa, Return of the King



      How to Watch?
  1. Daum Player (slideshow)
  2. Yaoyuan
  3. VLC - http://www.chwimmer.de/stream/relay.m3u - upon further review we don't have a VLC stream -_-
ModeratorGood content always wins.
ZenDeX
Profile Blog Joined May 2008
Philippines2916 Posts
January 02 2009 05:21 GMT
#2
FlaSh will win this easy...
Vasoline73
Profile Blog Joined February 2008
United States7801 Posts
January 02 2009 05:22 GMT
#3
w00t! Go Flash.
thedeadhaji *
Profile Blog Joined January 2006
39489 Posts
January 02 2009 05:30 GMT
#4
hoping for magma vs flash w/ magma showing some good games
Loanshark
Profile Blog Joined December 2008
China3094 Posts
January 02 2009 05:33 GMT
#5
On January 02 2009 14:21 lolaloc wrote:
FlaSh will win this easy...


Yup.
No dough, no go. And no mercy.
MrHoon *
Profile Blog Joined April 2008
10183 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-01-02 05:39:50
January 02 2009 05:34 GMT
#6
FLASHURU

And wasn't Soo the one who kicked off ForGG at Gom?

[image loading]
dats racist
writer22816
Profile Blog Joined September 2008
United States5775 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-01-02 05:51:11
January 02 2009 05:40 GMT
#7
On January 02 2009 14:34 MrHoon wrote:
FLASHURU

And wasn't Soo the one who kicked off ForGG at Gom?


Yes, and 2-0 too.
8/4/12 never forget, never forgive.
Doso
Profile Joined March 2008
Germany769 Posts
January 02 2009 05:42 GMT
#8
http://75.126.18.2/index.php?p=ogn
ambit!ous1
Profile Joined September 2007
United States3662 Posts
January 02 2009 05:42 GMT
#9
go maGma!

+ Show Spoiler +
Flash will rape both
Bisu[Shield] / ♔ SoYeon
KizZBG
Profile Blog Joined November 2006
u gotta skate8152 Posts
January 02 2009 05:48 GMT
#10
On January 02 2009 14:30 thedeadhaji wrote:
hoping for magma vs flash w/ magma showing some good games

eSTRO for life | #2 Sea.Really fan! | #1 GosI[Flying] fan! | Clide - best SC2 terran!
meegrean
Profile Joined May 2008
Thailand7699 Posts
January 02 2009 06:03 GMT
#11
Flash will simply walk over the winner of set 1.
Brood War loyalist
Avidkeystamper
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
United States8552 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-01-02 06:09:37
January 02 2009 06:05 GMT
#12
"Many people don’t know but maGma is considered one of the best Zergs in Korea. In fact Flash practices with him quite often and maGma wins a reported 50-60%."

That's crazy. But Magma does have bad nerves, so Flash should 2-0 this no problem. I really want good games though. This group looks to have the potential to deliver, but I doubt it will.
(Taken from scforall btw)
Jaedong
EleanorRIgby
Profile Joined March 2008
Canada3923 Posts
January 02 2009 06:06 GMT
#13
vlc stream is broken
savior did nothing wrong
ilovejonn
Profile Blog Joined August 2007
Canada2548 Posts
January 02 2009 06:06 GMT
#14
On January 02 2009 14:34 MrHoon wrote:
FLASHURU

And wasn't Soo the one who kicked off ForGG at Gom?

[image loading]

aww thats a cute pic
Snowflakes in January, Heart warm like February, I wouldn't ordinarily..
food
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
United States1951 Posts
January 02 2009 06:08 GMT
#15
i cant wait till something falls out of magmas mouth, like a drool
its bound to happen sooner or later
Can someone ban this guy please? FA?
Scaramanga
Profile Blog Joined March 2008
Australia8090 Posts
January 02 2009 06:51 GMT
#16
[image loading]


EASYEASY
Loda talked about the fun counter, it's AdmiralBulldog on his natures prophet
raiame
Profile Joined December 2007
United States421 Posts
January 02 2009 07:25 GMT
#17
On January 02 2009 15:06 EleanorRIgby wrote:
vlc stream is broken

Game hasn't started =\
t_co
Profile Blog Joined July 2007
United States702 Posts
January 02 2009 08:06 GMT
#18
[image loading]
"Look, don't congratulate us when we buy a company, congratulate us when we sell it. Because any fool can overpay and buy a company, so long as there is money to buy it." --Henry Kravis
Mhugues
Profile Joined December 2007
France112 Posts
January 02 2009 08:08 GMT
#19
I like magma, hope he will beat Soo... but i definitely cannot see him take down Flash .
Against stupidity, the gods themselves contend in vain
Lebesgue
Profile Joined October 2008
4542 Posts
January 02 2009 08:18 GMT
#20
On January 02 2009 15:05 Avidkeystamper wrote:
"Many people don’t know but maGma is considered one of the best Zergs in Korea. In fact Flash practices with him quite often and maGma wins a reported 50-60%."

That's crazy. But Magma does have bad nerves, so Flash should 2-0 this no problem. I really want good games though. This group looks to have the potential to deliver, but I doubt it will.
(Taken from scforall btw)


would you mind sharing source of that?
KizZBG
Profile Blog Joined November 2006
u gotta skate8152 Posts
January 02 2009 08:21 GMT
#21
On January 02 2009 17:18 Lebesgue wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 02 2009 15:05 Avidkeystamper wrote:
"Many people don’t know but maGma is considered one of the best Zergs in Korea. In fact Flash practices with him quite often and maGma wins a reported 50-60%."

That's crazy. But Magma does have bad nerves, so Flash should 2-0 this no problem. I really want good games though. This group looks to have the potential to deliver, but I doubt it will.
(Taken from scforall btw)


would you mind sharing source of that?

scforall it's in the brackets at the bottom if his post :S
eSTRO for life | #2 Sea.Really fan! | #1 GosI[Flying] fan! | Clide - best SC2 terran!
baubo
Profile Joined September 2008
China3370 Posts
January 02 2009 08:30 GMT
#22
If you watch recent games of magma he seems to have at least partially overcome his nerves. And his play is definitely top tier when he's performing. This, coupled with Flash's inconsistent(by his standard) TvZ, could be interesting.

Personally, I just want to see zergs start raping the mech build. Because I think TvZ mech is gay. Otherwise, rooting for Flash.
Meh
thestool91
Profile Joined August 2007
672 Posts
January 02 2009 08:36 GMT
#23
On January 02 2009 15:05 Avidkeystamper wrote:
"Many people don’t know but maGma is considered one of the best Zergs in Korea. In fact Flash practices with him quite often and maGma wins a reported 50-60%."

That's crazy. But Magma does have bad nerves, so Flash should 2-0 this no problem. I really want good games though. This group looks to have the potential to deliver, but I doubt it will.
(Taken from scforall btw)


i cant say whether i believe it for not but it must be frustrating to be one of the best zergs but not producing good scores
the dreamer, mantoss, storm zerg, the cowboy, the spark terran, the ultimate weapon...what more can i say? GO KTF
Jaksiel
Profile Joined November 2008
United States4130 Posts
January 02 2009 09:00 GMT
#24
Rooting for Magma, but realistically I know he won't beat Flash. And I wouldn't mind Flash winning either.
Zero fighting.
village_idiot
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
2436 Posts
January 02 2009 09:27 GMT
#25
Go Magma!

Overcome your nerves and become the best Zerg that you are!
dragoonkf
Profile Blog Joined April 2007
Singapore1256 Posts
January 02 2009 09:32 GMT
#26
GO MAGMA, i love his zerg plays, always down by lots of supplies but coming back to win due to great macro and flanks !
Inter.MinD/Free[gm]/Stork fan
DownMaxX
Profile Joined August 2008
Canada1311 Posts
January 02 2009 09:32 GMT
#27
Sexy ZvP incoming.
parasite
Scaramanga
Profile Blog Joined March 2008
Australia8090 Posts
January 02 2009 09:33 GMT
#28
Yeah magma could be 100% vs flash in practice matches but what matters is tv games and unfortunatly magma can't deliver on TV, heres hoping he dose but not tonight
Loda talked about the fun counter, it's AdmiralBulldog on his natures prophet
johanes
Profile Blog Joined May 2008
Czech Republic2227 Posts
January 02 2009 09:34 GMT
#29
any working stream?
Kentor *
Profile Blog Joined December 2007
United States5784 Posts
January 02 2009 09:36 GMT
#30
magma > flash plz
village_idiot
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
2436 Posts
January 02 2009 09:36 GMT
#31
On January 02 2009 18:34 johanes wrote:
any working stream?

Nope. Not for me at least.
Bighit
Profile Joined October 2008
Australia21 Posts
January 02 2009 09:36 GMT
#32
Nah none yet i don't think. YY Seems dead..
darktreb
Profile Joined May 2007
United States3016 Posts
January 02 2009 09:37 GMT
#33
Ugh the VLC stream was working until it was time for the games to actually start....
Jaksiel
Profile Joined November 2008
United States4130 Posts
January 02 2009 09:37 GMT
#34
The TVAnts stream is working.
Zero fighting.
PH
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
United States6173 Posts
January 02 2009 09:37 GMT
#35
On January 02 2009 17:36 thestool91 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 02 2009 15:05 Avidkeystamper wrote:
"Many people don’t know but maGma is considered one of the best Zergs in Korea. In fact Flash practices with him quite often and maGma wins a reported 50-60%."

That's crazy. But Magma does have bad nerves, so Flash should 2-0 this no problem. I really want good games though. This group looks to have the potential to deliver, but I doubt it will.
(Taken from scforall btw)


i cant say whether i believe it for not but it must be frustrating to be one of the best zergs but not producing good scores

Daniel Lee has said many times that magma is a great zerg, but just never seems to perform well in televised matches... :\
Hello
SilverSkyLark
Profile Blog Joined April 2008
Philippines8437 Posts
January 02 2009 09:38 GMT
#36
Hoping for soo and flash here.

MagMa's ZvT is just....bad.
"If i lost an arm, I would play w3." -IntoTheWow || "Member of Hyuk Hyuk Hyuk cafe. He's the next Jaedong, baby!"
johanes
Profile Blog Joined May 2008
Czech Republic2227 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-01-02 09:38:57
January 02 2009 09:38 GMT
#37
wasn't it in a game against magma when FlaSh defense matrix'd enemy drop-ovies?
machinebloodprogram
Profile Joined December 2008
United States245 Posts
January 02 2009 09:38 GMT
#38
On January 02 2009 18:36 Bighit wrote:
Nah none yet i don't think. YY Seems dead..



the YY stream WMP(OGN转播800K) is perfect for me.
village_idiot
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
2436 Posts
January 02 2009 09:40 GMT
#39
On January 02 2009 18:38 machinebloodprogram wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 02 2009 18:36 Bighit wrote:
Nah none yet i don't think. YY Seems dead..



the YY stream WMP(OGN转播800K) is perfect for me.

I never get a high enough transfer rate to watch that stream.
Samurai-
Profile Joined May 2008
Slovenia2035 Posts
January 02 2009 09:40 GMT
#40
here we go
One ring, to rule them all!
ShaLLoW[baY]
Profile Blog Joined January 2007
Canada12499 Posts
January 02 2009 09:40 GMT
#41
Holy shit magma's booth girl looks like a robot. MOVE FOR THE LOVE OF GOD PLEASE.
ALEXISONFIRE ARE FUCKING BACK (sAviOr for life)
Corinthos *
Profile Blog Joined February 2006
Canada1842 Posts
January 02 2009 09:40 GMT
#42
http://75.126.18.2/index.php?p=ogn is up
Scaramanga
Profile Blog Joined March 2008
Australia8090 Posts
January 02 2009 09:41 GMT
#43
http://75.126.18.2/index.php?p=ogn open in ie'
Loda talked about the fun counter, it's AdmiralBulldog on his natures prophet
DownMaxX
Profile Joined August 2008
Canada1311 Posts
January 02 2009 09:41 GMT
#44
On January 02 2009 18:38 Infinity.SkyLark wrote:
Hoping for soo and flash here.

MagMa's ZvT is just....bad.


He pretty convincingly beat Hwasin recently in MST... I think Magma vs. Flash would be much more interesting than SoO, even if Flash does dominate.
parasite
Lamentations
Profile Blog Joined October 2008
Australia211 Posts
January 02 2009 09:41 GMT
#45
On YY I get a blank white screen where the vid is supposed to be after it dounts up to like 1024 ms. Any ideas on how to make it work?

Gogo FlaSh!
Bogus is like "nerdy cute", whereas Lomo is like "I would make him wear a dress and rape him" cute -Turbovolver
PeAcY6969
Profile Joined January 2008
France621 Posts
January 02 2009 09:42 GMT
#46
maGma > SoO
Flash > maGma



Game 1 :

MaGma : 6h violet zerg
SoO : 2h red protoss
"MBCGame HERO... What Else ?"
Jaksiel
Profile Joined November 2008
United States4130 Posts
January 02 2009 09:42 GMT
#47
We're drifting apart like people do...
Zero fighting.
oshibori_probe
Profile Blog Joined July 2006
United States2933 Posts
January 02 2009 09:43 GMT
#48
can we get a vlc by any chance for those of us mac users?
Fuck KeSPA.
PH
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
United States6173 Posts
January 02 2009 09:43 GMT
#49
Man, I think my internet is taking a dump on me now...T_T
Hello
Magic84
Profile Joined October 2008
Russian Federation1381 Posts
January 02 2009 09:44 GMT
#50
OGN works, but it's super laggy unlike perfect streams from corinthos or gomtv.
[Fin]Vittu
Profile Blog Joined March 2008
Canada507 Posts
January 02 2009 09:44 GMT
#51
On January 02 2009 18:40 Corinthos wrote:
http://75.126.18.2/index.php?p=ogn is up

when i put this in IE, all i see is a black box. could you help me out with that please?
The "Finnish Metal Terran"
Samurai-
Profile Joined May 2008
Slovenia2035 Posts
January 02 2009 09:44 GMT
#52
rofl wtf was that
One ring, to rule them all!
PH
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
United States6173 Posts
January 02 2009 09:45 GMT
#53
stream is choppy, but works. Thanks, Corinthos. (:

It's great quality too.
Hello
gravity
Profile Joined March 2004
Australia1847 Posts
January 02 2009 09:45 GMT
#54
FFFE is being attacked by some lings, one cannon down.
Samurai-
Profile Joined May 2008
Slovenia2035 Posts
January 02 2009 09:45 GMT
#55
On January 02 2009 18:40 Corinthos wrote:
http://75.126.18.2/index.php?p=ogn is up


bad for us non windows users , vlc links ftw
One ring, to rule them all!
machinebloodprogram
Profile Joined December 2008
United States245 Posts
January 02 2009 09:46 GMT
#56
On January 02 2009 18:44 [Fin]Vittu wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 02 2009 18:40 Corinthos wrote:
http://75.126.18.2/index.php?p=ogn is up

when i put this in IE, all i see is a black box. could you help me out with that please?



get TVants
Samurai-
Profile Joined May 2008
Slovenia2035 Posts
January 02 2009 09:46 GMT
#57
its over lol, gg
One ring, to rule them all!
SteveStyle
Profile Joined December 2008
United States27 Posts
January 02 2009 09:46 GMT
#58
Magma's Zergling harass is really effective, Creationtoss GG's
Scaramanga
Profile Blog Joined March 2008
Australia8090 Posts
January 02 2009 09:47 GMT
#59
magma wins, cannon break
Loda talked about the fun counter, it's AdmiralBulldog on his natures prophet
Kentor *
Profile Blog Joined December 2007
United States5784 Posts
January 02 2009 09:47 GMT
#60
On January 02 2009 18:45 PH wrote:
stream is choppy, but works. Thanks, Corinthos. (:

It's great quality too.

quality is crazy amazing but yeah i'm getting a choppy stream
gravity
Profile Joined March 2004
Australia1847 Posts
January 02 2009 09:47 GMT
#61
On January 02 2009 18:46 machinebloodprogram wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 02 2009 18:44 [Fin]Vittu wrote:
On January 02 2009 18:40 Corinthos wrote:
http://75.126.18.2/index.php?p=ogn is up

when i put this in IE, all i see is a black box. could you help me out with that please?



get TVants

I have TVants but it never works for me, just buffers/connects infinitely. I think it's worked like once or twice ever for me :/.
PeAcY6969
Profile Joined January 2008
France621 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-01-02 09:49:58
January 02 2009 09:47 GMT
#62
GG ! SoO loose vs a gling rush.

SoO 0-1 maGma
"MBCGame HERO... What Else ?"
Kentor *
Profile Blog Joined December 2007
United States5784 Posts
January 02 2009 09:47 GMT
#63
aw yeahhhh estro fighting
village_idiot
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
2436 Posts
January 02 2009 09:48 GMT
#64
I see lings raping shit. Then it buffers.

Looks like a gg moment.
Zidane
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
United States1686 Posts
January 02 2009 09:48 GMT
#65
Stream lags pretty bad for me. Like daum player.
Cambium
Profile Blog Joined June 2004
United States16368 Posts
January 02 2009 09:49 GMT
#66
gg from soo
When you want something, all the universe conspires in helping you to achieve it.
Mhugues
Profile Joined December 2007
France112 Posts
January 02 2009 09:49 GMT
#67
GoGo Magma :D
Against stupidity, the gods themselves contend in vain
PH
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
United States6173 Posts
January 02 2009 09:49 GMT
#68
Ok...now every stream is taking a shit on me...uuuuuuuuuugh.
Hello
Shikyo
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
Finland33997 Posts
January 02 2009 09:50 GMT
#69
That wasn't a rush btw, just adaptation.
League of Legends EU West, Platinum III | Yousei Teikoku is the best thing that has ever happened to music.
Elsi
Profile Joined October 2002
United Kingdom8173 Posts
January 02 2009 09:50 GMT
#70
All i see is a white box!
johanes
Profile Blog Joined May 2008
Czech Republic2227 Posts
January 02 2009 09:51 GMT
#71
On January 02 2009 18:49 PH wrote:
Ok...now every stream is taking a shit on me...uuuuuuuuuugh.

looks like quality is down, but performance up
Mhugues
Profile Joined December 2007
France112 Posts
January 02 2009 09:51 GMT
#72
On January 02 2009 18:50 Elsi wrote:
All i see is a white box!


Do you have TV ants installed ? (assuming you are using corintho's stream )
Against stupidity, the gods themselves contend in vain
village_idiot
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
2436 Posts
January 02 2009 09:51 GMT
#73
On January 02 2009 18:47 gravity wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 02 2009 18:46 machinebloodprogram wrote:
On January 02 2009 18:44 [Fin]Vittu wrote:
On January 02 2009 18:40 Corinthos wrote:
http://75.126.18.2/index.php?p=ogn is up

when i put this in IE, all i see is a black box. could you help me out with that please?



get TVants

I have TVants but it never works for me, just buffers/connects infinitely. I think it's worked like once or twice ever for me :/.

The transfer rate is too inconsistent. It's the same for me, a slightly better daum is the best I can get.
rushz0rz
Profile Blog Joined February 2006
Canada5300 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-01-02 09:53:44
January 02 2009 09:52 GMT
#74
is it possible to make it really bad quality so it works or something?

seems like it never works for OSL/MSL, only proleague.
IntoTheRainBOw fan~
oshibori_probe
Profile Blog Joined July 2006
United States2933 Posts
January 02 2009 09:53 GMT
#75
anyone have a daum sports link?

Fuck KeSPA.
Magic84
Profile Joined October 2008
Russian Federation1381 Posts
January 02 2009 09:54 GMT
#76
Can the bitrate be changed or something? Corinthos' streams were perfect before.
johanes
Profile Blog Joined May 2008
Czech Republic2227 Posts
January 02 2009 09:54 GMT
#77
On January 02 2009 18:53 oshibori_probe wrote:
anyone have a daum sports link?


there isnt one today
NeVeR
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
1352 Posts
January 02 2009 09:54 GMT
#78
5 pool
benjammin
Profile Blog Joined August 2008
United States2728 Posts
January 02 2009 09:55 GMT
#79
corinthos' tvants stream is working perfectly for me
wash uffitizi, drive me to firenze
Elsi
Profile Joined October 2002
United Kingdom8173 Posts
January 02 2009 09:55 GMT
#80
5 pool lawl!
NeVeR
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
1352 Posts
January 02 2009 09:55 GMT
#81
lol the look on soo's face after scouting magma.. "omg you cheesey noob"
Vasoline73
Profile Blog Joined February 2008
United States7801 Posts
January 02 2009 09:56 GMT
#82
Man fucking OGN/MBC and Daum... why shit on people trying to watch outside of Korea? I can never watch matches now . Why not do it like GOM?

. Thanks for alternative streams anyways
Jaksiel
Profile Joined November 2008
United States4130 Posts
January 02 2009 09:56 GMT
#83
Hm. It should be working but it's not.
Zero fighting.
Puosu
Profile Blog Joined April 2007
6985 Posts
January 02 2009 09:56 GMT
#84
On January 02 2009 18:54 NeVeR wrote:
5 pool

FUCK i dont want to miss this! workworkwork paleaseseas
Kentor *
Profile Blog Joined December 2007
United States5784 Posts
January 02 2009 09:57 GMT
#85
ohhh please LR thanks!
NeVeR
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
1352 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-01-02 09:57:54
January 02 2009 09:57 GMT
#86
Use the yaoyuan 800K stream.
usopsama
Profile Joined April 2008
6502 Posts
January 02 2009 09:57 GMT
#87
Pylon down.
Magic84
Profile Joined October 2008
Russian Federation1381 Posts
January 02 2009 09:58 GMT
#88
Wow it's like HD quality AND no lag all of a sudden now
DownMaxX
Profile Joined August 2008
Canada1311 Posts
January 02 2009 09:58 GMT
#89
Haha that face was pretty good. SoO's just like 'aw fuck'.

I'm about a minute behind but I finally have a stream.
parasite
Geo.Rion
Profile Blog Joined October 2008
7377 Posts
January 02 2009 09:58 GMT
#90
f5f5f5f5f5f5f5
"Protoss is a joke" Liquid`Jinro Okt.1. 2011
benjammin
Profile Blog Joined August 2008
United States2728 Posts
January 02 2009 09:58 GMT
#91
ahh is this the july 5pool > 2 hatch muta build?
wash uffitizi, drive me to firenze
iloveHieu
Profile Joined November 2007
United States1919 Posts
January 02 2009 09:59 GMT
#92
who will get raped by Flash?!
Xellos <3
benjammin
Profile Blog Joined August 2008
United States2728 Posts
January 02 2009 09:59 GMT
#93
magma picks off a gateway, but soo looks fine so far, messed up his build order for sure though
wash uffitizi, drive me to firenze
village_idiot
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
2436 Posts
January 02 2009 09:59 GMT
#94
On January 02 2009 18:54 Magic84 wrote:
Can the bitrate be changed or something? Corinthos' streams were perfect before.

This stream is 800k and you can't change it yourself.

From what I understand it would be extremely difficult for Corinthos to change it.
Rostam
Profile Blog Joined December 2008
United States2552 Posts
January 02 2009 09:59 GMT
#95
On January 02 2009 18:58 benjammin wrote:
ahh is this the july 5pool > 2 hatch muta build?


he went double hatch at nat so..
BW forever || Thall
benjammin
Profile Blog Joined August 2008
United States2728 Posts
January 02 2009 09:59 GMT
#96
soo with two zealots takes his expo
wash uffitizi, drive me to firenze
renegade_zerg
Profile Blog Joined September 2008
Korea (South)525 Posts
January 02 2009 09:59 GMT
#97
how do u fuckin navigate around yaoyuan. shits all jibberish
johanes
Profile Blog Joined May 2008
Czech Republic2227 Posts
January 02 2009 09:59 GMT
#98
On January 02 2009 18:58 Magic84 wrote:
Wow it's like HD quality AND no lag all of a sudden now

ya for 5 sec maybe
benjammin
Profile Blog Joined August 2008
United States2728 Posts
January 02 2009 10:00 GMT
#99
lol soo has two scouting probes in magma's main for some reason
wash uffitizi, drive me to firenze
Jaksiel
Profile Joined November 2008
United States4130 Posts
January 02 2009 10:00 GMT
#100
OK, works excellently now. Just had to give it time, I guess.
Zero fighting.
Proposal
Profile Joined December 2007
United States1310 Posts
January 02 2009 10:01 GMT
#101
ahh lings out, cannon in soo's main
benjammin
Profile Blog Joined August 2008
United States2728 Posts
January 02 2009 10:02 GMT
#102
spire for magma, soo adding a stargate
wash uffitizi, drive me to firenze
rushz0rz
Profile Blog Joined February 2006
Canada5300 Posts
January 02 2009 10:02 GMT
#103
soo getting his nat up after 5 pool fails.
cyber going up.

magma gets nat up with a sunken.
lair up.
IntoTheRainBOw fan~
benjammin
Profile Blog Joined August 2008
United States2728 Posts
January 02 2009 10:03 GMT
#104
magma making like 7 mutas, soo just getting his first corsair out, this looks bad
wash uffitizi, drive me to firenze
benjammin
Profile Blog Joined August 2008
United States2728 Posts
January 02 2009 10:04 GMT
#105
solid defense for soo, magma settles on picking off some zealots wandering around
wash uffitizi, drive me to firenze
SaveYourSavior
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
United States1071 Posts
January 02 2009 10:04 GMT
#106
The stream now has become 90% stable with small, subtle breaks in the otherwise 800k stream. The small lag spikes make the video fast-forward right after the spikes. A nice effect
a
rushz0rz
Profile Blog Joined February 2006
Canada5300 Posts
January 02 2009 10:04 GMT
#107
4 cannons, 1 dragoon, and 2 sairs to defend against the mutas.

mutas hunting zealots now.
IntoTheRainBOw fan~
benjammin
Profile Blog Joined August 2008
United States2728 Posts
January 02 2009 10:05 GMT
#108
magma with den + evo, seems to be way ahead but could use an expansion
wash uffitizi, drive me to firenze
johanes
Profile Blog Joined May 2008
Czech Republic2227 Posts
January 02 2009 10:05 GMT
#109
On January 02 2009 19:04 SaveYourSavior wrote:
The stream now has become 90% stable with small, subtle breaks in the otherwise 800k stream. The small lag spikes make the video fast-forward right after the spikes. A nice effect

its praparing channel for me
rushz0rz
Profile Blog Joined February 2006
Canada5300 Posts
January 02 2009 10:06 GMT
#110
mutas snipe a cannon at the front.
IntoTheRainBOw fan~
benjammin
Profile Blog Joined August 2008
United States2728 Posts
January 02 2009 10:06 GMT
#111
soo at 80 supply, magma at 70
wash uffitizi, drive me to firenze
rushz0rz
Profile Blog Joined February 2006
Canada5300 Posts
January 02 2009 10:06 GMT
#112
zealot scouts expansion at the 1 oclock pos.
IntoTheRainBOw fan~
benjammin
Profile Blog Joined August 2008
United States2728 Posts
January 02 2009 10:06 GMT
#113
lots of hydras out now trying to break down the temples
wash uffitizi, drive me to firenze
rushz0rz
Profile Blog Joined February 2006
Canada5300 Posts
January 02 2009 10:07 GMT
#114
sair/shuttle moving out, i assume it s areaver inside.
IntoTheRainBOw fan~
benjammin
Profile Blog Joined August 2008
United States2728 Posts
January 02 2009 10:07 GMT
#115
a LOT of corsairs for soo, gotta be 10 or so
wash uffitizi, drive me to firenze
sung_moon
Profile Blog Joined September 2008
United States10110 Posts
January 02 2009 10:07 GMT
#116
wait did magma 5pool 1st game AND this game? or just this game
Forever Young
DownMaxX
Profile Joined August 2008
Canada1311 Posts
January 02 2009 10:07 GMT
#117
On January 02 2009 19:07 sung_moon wrote:
wait did magma 5pool 1st game AND this game? or just this game


Just this game.
parasite
benjammin
Profile Blog Joined August 2008
United States2728 Posts
January 02 2009 10:07 GMT
#118
soo has spent sooo much money on cannons
wash uffitizi, drive me to firenze
rushz0rz
Profile Blog Joined February 2006
Canada5300 Posts
January 02 2009 10:08 GMT
#119
magma at 4 base now, 3 gas.

soo at 3 base, 2 gas.
IntoTheRainBOw fan~
rushz0rz
Profile Blog Joined February 2006
Canada5300 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-01-02 10:10:46
January 02 2009 10:09 GMT
#120
soo has so many cannons.
soo many cannons.
IntoTheRainBOw fan~
benjammin
Profile Blog Joined August 2008
United States2728 Posts
January 02 2009 10:09 GMT
#121
magma trying to break the nat!
wash uffitizi, drive me to firenze
Disarray
Profile Blog Joined December 2007
United States1164 Posts
January 02 2009 10:09 GMT
#122
thx for LRs = D
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DownMaxX
Profile Joined August 2008
Canada1311 Posts
January 02 2009 10:10 GMT
#123
Ah fuck. I lost my stream just as he was moving his hydras towards SoO's min-only.
parasite
benjammin
Profile Blog Joined August 2008
United States2728 Posts
January 02 2009 10:10 GMT
#124
same ;_;
wash uffitizi, drive me to firenze
usopsama
Profile Joined April 2008
6502 Posts
January 02 2009 10:10 GMT
#125
Shuttle goes down.
benjammin
Profile Blog Joined August 2008
United States2728 Posts
January 02 2009 10:11 GMT
#126
wouldn't starving soo be better than trying to break?
wash uffitizi, drive me to firenze
rushz0rz
Profile Blog Joined February 2006
Canada5300 Posts
January 02 2009 10:11 GMT
#127
alright well, stream crapped out again. my LR is done unless it comes back up again.
IntoTheRainBOw fan~
benjammin
Profile Blog Joined August 2008
United States2728 Posts
January 02 2009 10:11 GMT
#128
soo on about 160 supply, magma down to 110 after it had been near equal
wash uffitizi, drive me to firenze
usopsama
Profile Joined April 2008
6502 Posts
January 02 2009 10:11 GMT
#129
CreationToss has a lot of Dragoons though.
ExSoldier
Profile Joined April 2008
378 Posts
January 02 2009 10:12 GMT
#130
why is the stream really slow tonight?
iloveHieu
Profile Joined November 2007
United States1919 Posts
January 02 2009 10:12 GMT
#131
goo soo!
Xellos <3
Magic84
Profile Joined October 2008
Russian Federation1381 Posts
January 02 2009 10:12 GMT
#132
On January 02 2009 18:59 johanes wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 02 2009 18:58 Magic84 wrote:
Wow it's like HD quality AND no lag all of a sudden now

ya for 5 sec maybe

For 10 minutes at least! But the lag came back with a vengeance...
On January 02 2009 19:10 DownMaxX wrote:
Ah fuck. I lost my stream just as he was moving his hydras towards SoO's min-only.

Same thing.
DownMaxX
Profile Joined August 2008
Canada1311 Posts
January 02 2009 10:12 GMT
#133
Stream came back on long enough to see Magma dodging reavers with burrow.
parasite
rushz0rz
Profile Blog Joined February 2006
Canada5300 Posts
January 02 2009 10:12 GMT
#134
On January 02 2009 19:11 benjammin wrote:
wouldn't starving soo be better than trying to break?


he has 3 base, he wouldnt really starve without making a huge offensive. keeping the pressure on is what he needs to do, not let his army get too big.
IntoTheRainBOw fan~
Cambium
Profile Blog Joined June 2004
United States16368 Posts
January 02 2009 10:12 GMT
#135
okay what are you guys using to watch this?

When you want something, all the universe conspires in helping you to achieve it.
village_idiot
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
2436 Posts
January 02 2009 10:12 GMT
#136
PIMP BURROW
benjammin
Profile Blog Joined August 2008
United States2728 Posts
January 02 2009 10:12 GMT
#137
great reaver sniping by magma
wash uffitizi, drive me to firenze
Domestica
Profile Blog Joined October 2005
United States411 Posts
January 02 2009 10:12 GMT
#138
toss needs another gas
Puosu
Profile Blog Joined April 2007
6985 Posts
January 02 2009 10:13 GMT
#139
mms://liveongame.gscdn.com/L1
benjammin
Profile Blog Joined August 2008
United States2728 Posts
January 02 2009 10:13 GMT
#140
soo's macro is slipping, 1k+ minerals
wash uffitizi, drive me to firenze
usopsama
Profile Joined April 2008
6502 Posts
January 02 2009 10:13 GMT
#141
OH SHIT. WHAT A GODLIKE PLAGUE.
usopsama
Profile Joined April 2008
6502 Posts
January 02 2009 10:13 GMT
#142
ULTRAS ARE OUT!
NeVeR
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
1352 Posts
January 02 2009 10:13 GMT
#143
magma is pretty damn good.
food
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
United States1951 Posts
January 02 2009 10:13 GMT
#144
this is the best zvp i seen past 5 months
Can someone ban this guy please? FA?
usopsama
Profile Joined April 2008
6502 Posts
January 02 2009 10:14 GMT
#145
Another godlike plague!
DownMaxX
Profile Joined August 2008
Canada1311 Posts
January 02 2009 10:14 GMT
#146
On January 02 2009 19:13 Puosu wrote:
mms://liveongame.gscdn.com/L1


OMG GREAT STREAM HAVE MY BABIES
parasite
ExSoldier
Profile Joined April 2008
378 Posts
January 02 2009 10:14 GMT
#147
is mms://liveongame.gscdn.com/L1 with chinese commentor?
Puosu
Profile Blog Joined April 2007
6985 Posts
January 02 2009 10:14 GMT
#148
On January 02 2009 19:13 food wrote:
this is the best zvp i seen past 5 months

and its all thanks to Magma, such a beast.
Puosu
Profile Blog Joined April 2007
6985 Posts
January 02 2009 10:14 GMT
#149
On January 02 2009 19:14 ExSoldier wrote:
is mms://liveongame.gscdn.com/L1 with chinese commentor?

no
Mikilatov
Profile Blog Joined May 2008
United States3897 Posts
January 02 2009 10:14 GMT
#150
On January 02 2009 19:14 DownMaxX wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 02 2009 19:13 Puosu wrote:
mms://liveongame.gscdn.com/L1


OMG GREAT STREAM HAVE MY BABIES


Doesn't work for me, =(
♥ I used to lasso the shit out of your tournaments =( ♥ | Much is my hero. | zizi yO~ | Be Nice, TL.
PoP
Profile Blog Joined October 2002
France15446 Posts
January 02 2009 10:14 GMT
#151
very nice use of plague
Administrator
Puosu
Profile Blog Joined April 2007
6985 Posts
January 02 2009 10:14 GMT
#152
On January 02 2009 19:14 DownMaxX wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 02 2009 19:13 Puosu wrote:
mms://liveongame.gscdn.com/L1


OMG GREAT STREAM HAVE MY BABIES

more like yaoyuan have your babies
ExSoldier
Profile Joined April 2008
378 Posts
January 02 2009 10:14 GMT
#153
how is mms://liveongame.gscdn.com/L1 created? webcam? just wondering
rushz0rz
Profile Blog Joined February 2006
Canada5300 Posts
January 02 2009 10:14 GMT
#154
magma has sooo many lurkers and i think that was the wrong choice against goon/reaver. although hes rich as hell, doesnt matter what he gets.
IntoTheRainBOw fan~
DownMaxX
Profile Joined August 2008
Canada1311 Posts
January 02 2009 10:15 GMT
#155
On January 02 2009 19:14 Mikilatov wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 02 2009 19:14 DownMaxX wrote:
On January 02 2009 19:13 Puosu wrote:
mms://liveongame.gscdn.com/L1


OMG GREAT STREAM HAVE MY BABIES


Doesn't work for me, =(


Flawless in VLC for me. And a couple minutes ahead of other streams.
parasite
usopsama
Profile Joined April 2008
6502 Posts
January 02 2009 10:15 GMT
#156
GG
Samurai-
Profile Joined May 2008
Slovenia2035 Posts
January 02 2009 10:15 GMT
#157
soo ggs, magma vs flash next.. what a bad games
One ring, to rule them all!
Elsi
Profile Joined October 2002
United Kingdom8173 Posts
January 02 2009 10:15 GMT
#158
sexy magma!!
food
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
United States1951 Posts
January 02 2009 10:15 GMT
#159
what. a. fucking. beast.
Can someone ban this guy please? FA?
johanes
Profile Blog Joined May 2008
Czech Republic2227 Posts
January 02 2009 10:16 GMT
#160
meanwhile in PGL + Show Spoiler +
NONY cheeeeeses
EvilTeletubby
Profile Blog Joined January 2004
Baltimore, USA22254 Posts
January 02 2009 10:16 GMT
#161
GG
Moderatorhttp://carbonleaf.yuku.com/topic/408/t/So-I-proposed-at-a-Carbon-Leaf-concert.html ***** RIP Geoff
MoRe_mInErAls
Profile Blog Joined November 2007
Canada1210 Posts
January 02 2009 10:16 GMT
#162
On January 02 2009 19:13 Puosu wrote:
mms://liveongame.gscdn.com/L1



Please.. Puosu, fuck my sister
Cambium
Profile Blog Joined June 2004
United States16368 Posts
January 02 2009 10:16 GMT
#163
On January 02 2009 19:13 Puosu wrote:
mms://liveongame.gscdn.com/L1


Thanks a TON

It's the best stream so far
When you want something, all the universe conspires in helping you to achieve it.
Jaksiel
Profile Joined November 2008
United States4130 Posts
January 02 2009 10:16 GMT
#164
TVants stream stopped working, and that VLC stream ain't working for me. Looks like I'll wait for tomorrow when VODs go up to find out who won Magma/Flash.
Zero fighting.
Vasoline73
Profile Blog Joined February 2008
United States7801 Posts
January 02 2009 10:16 GMT
#165
The yaoyuan 800K OGN stream is working great for me now

And Flash on camera! W00t
usopsama
Profile Joined April 2008
6502 Posts
January 02 2009 10:16 GMT
#166
Those were so freaking crazy plagues.
EvilTeletubby
Profile Blog Joined January 2004
Baltimore, USA22254 Posts
January 02 2009 10:16 GMT
#167
On January 02 2009 19:15 Samurai- wrote:
soo ggs, magma vs flash next.. what a bad games


Eh? From what I caught, that seemed like a pretty good game.
Moderatorhttp://carbonleaf.yuku.com/topic/408/t/So-I-proposed-at-a-Carbon-Leaf-concert.html ***** RIP Geoff
dragoonkf
Profile Blog Joined April 2007
Singapore1256 Posts
January 02 2009 10:17 GMT
#168
Puosu thanks for the stream, flawless... ITZ FLAWLESS !!!
Inter.MinD/Free[gm]/Stork fan
village_idiot
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
2436 Posts
January 02 2009 10:17 GMT
#169
On January 02 2009 19:16 Jaksiel wrote:
TVants stream stopped working, and that VLC stream ain't working for me. Looks like I'll wait for tomorrow when VODs go up to find out who won Magma/Flash.

Seems like the best choice.
Cambium
Profile Blog Joined June 2004
United States16368 Posts
January 02 2009 10:17 GMT
#170
On January 02 2009 19:16 Vasoline73 wrote:
The yaoyuan 800K OGN stream is working great for me now

And Flash on camera! W00t


that stream seriously works only 1/4 of the time, the other 3/4 = endless buffering
When you want something, all the universe conspires in helping you to achieve it.
food
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
United States1951 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-01-02 10:17:33
January 02 2009 10:17 GMT
#171
On January 02 2009 19:16 johanes wrote:
meanwhile in PGL + Show Spoiler +
NONY cheeeeeses



i just mute one stream and watch another. Im a happy man atm
Can someone ban this guy please? FA?
PoP
Profile Blog Joined October 2002
France15446 Posts
January 02 2009 10:17 GMT
#172
On January 02 2009 19:16 Cambium wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 02 2009 19:13 Puosu wrote:
mms://liveongame.gscdn.com/L1


Thanks a TON

It's the best stream so far


It's the yaoyuan one actually.
Administrator
Proposal
Profile Joined December 2007
United States1310 Posts
January 02 2009 10:17 GMT
#173
What happened!? I was seeing the IE stream then switched over and the game ended :[
Cambium
Profile Blog Joined June 2004
United States16368 Posts
January 02 2009 10:18 GMT
#174
On January 02 2009 19:17 PoP wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 02 2009 19:16 Cambium wrote:
On January 02 2009 19:13 Puosu wrote:
mms://liveongame.gscdn.com/L1


Thanks a TON

It's the best stream so far


It's the yaoyuan one actually.


that's interesting, I guess BSPlayer does a better job than WMP?
When you want something, all the universe conspires in helping you to achieve it.
PeAcY6969
Profile Joined January 2008
France621 Posts
January 02 2009 10:18 GMT
#175
GG ! SoO 0-2 maGma

Now Flash kick maGma :p
"MBCGame HERO... What Else ?"
ZerGuy
Profile Joined June 2008
Poland204 Posts
January 02 2009 10:19 GMT
#176
This stream loads 64kb/s for me. Unwatchable
Someday ill be pro
Darth Peter
Profile Joined October 2008
Romania438 Posts
January 02 2009 10:19 GMT
#177
Go go Magma!!!!
PoP
Profile Blog Joined October 2002
France15446 Posts
January 02 2009 10:19 GMT
#178
On January 02 2009 19:18 Cambium wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 02 2009 19:17 PoP wrote:
On January 02 2009 19:16 Cambium wrote:
On January 02 2009 19:13 Puosu wrote:
mms://liveongame.gscdn.com/L1


Thanks a TON

It's the best stream so far


It's the yaoyuan one actually.


that's interesting, I guess BSPlayer does a better job than WMP?


That or it's just lagless between games, as usual. :p
Administrator
QibingZero
Profile Blog Joined June 2007
2611 Posts
January 02 2009 10:19 GMT
#179
Am I seeing things, or was TheMarine just playing Go on a Batoo commercial?
Oh, my eSports
sung_moon
Profile Blog Joined September 2008
United States10110 Posts
January 02 2009 10:20 GMT
#180
ah yea pusous stream working now
Forever Young
KizZBG
Profile Blog Joined November 2006
u gotta skate8152 Posts
January 02 2009 10:21 GMT
#181
I'll be one of the very few people to root for Magma! XD
eSTRO for life | #2 Sea.Really fan! | #1 GosI[Flying] fan! | Clide - best SC2 terran!
MrHoon *
Profile Blog Joined April 2008
10183 Posts
January 02 2009 10:21 GMT
#182
On January 02 2009 19:19 QibingZero wrote:
Am I seeing things, or was TheMarine just playing Go on a Batoo commercial?

it is lol

TheMarine is the fucking shit man
dats racist
Puosu
Profile Blog Joined April 2007
6985 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-01-02 10:22:01
January 02 2009 10:21 GMT
#183
On January 02 2009 19:20 sung_moon wrote:
ah yea pusous stream working now

its yaoyuan .. not mine~
dragoonkf
Profile Blog Joined April 2007
Singapore1256 Posts
January 02 2009 10:22 GMT
#184
On January 02 2009 19:21 KizZBG wrote:
I'll be one of the very few people to root for Magma! XD


What are you talking about, Magma has many supporters !!!!!!!!
Inter.MinD/Free[gm]/Stork fan
NeVeR
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
1352 Posts
January 02 2009 10:22 GMT
#185
omg nony just beat a progamer in PGL.
SaveYourSavior
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
United States1071 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-01-02 10:23:44
January 02 2009 10:23 GMT
#186
Magma has one of the best expressions while he plays Starcraft, that alone makes him really likeable


edit: See his proleague battle against skt1 zerg
a
Vasoline73
Profile Blog Joined February 2008
United States7801 Posts
January 02 2009 10:23 GMT
#187
On January 02 2009 19:21 KizZBG wrote:
I'll be one of the very few people to root for Magma! XD


If Magma wins I will kill myself!

Unless he brings us some awesome ass OSL games. lol. I hear he may very well take this though, so if he does he deserves it. :D
liger13
Profile Blog Joined February 2008
United States1060 Posts
January 02 2009 10:23 GMT
#188
On January 02 2009 19:22 NeVeR wrote:
omg nony just beat a progamer in PGL.

lol...
I feel like pwning noobs
NeVeR
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
1352 Posts
January 02 2009 10:23 GMT
#189
Anyway, time for Flash to clean up.
food
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
United States1951 Posts
January 02 2009 10:23 GMT
#190
imo fix the spoiler before someone slapped u with admin hammer
Can someone ban this guy please? FA?
DownMaxX
Profile Joined August 2008
Canada1311 Posts
January 02 2009 10:24 GMT
#191
I'm rooting for Magma, but Flash definitely has the upper hand.

Should be interesting either way. Maybe Magma finally conquered his fear of playing live.
parasite
MrHoon *
Profile Blog Joined April 2008
10183 Posts
January 02 2009 10:24 GMT
#192
On January 02 2009 19:21 KizZBG wrote:
I'll be one of the very few people to root for Magma! XD

Actually, I was very sad when I found out magma was playing with flash

I wanted to see both of them get far in OSL.


But personally, I wish to see flash do well in this OSL >.>
dats racist
Kentor *
Profile Blog Joined December 2007
United States5784 Posts
January 02 2009 10:25 GMT
#193
snipe those dropships doog!
Puosu
Profile Blog Joined April 2007
6985 Posts
January 02 2009 10:25 GMT
#194
On January 02 2009 19:22 NeVeR wrote:
omg nony just beat a progamer in PGL.

lol.. Nony is a progamer himself now..
Vasoline73
Profile Blog Joined February 2008
United States7801 Posts
January 02 2009 10:25 GMT
#195
FLASHHHHHHHHHHHHHH WIN IT!
Corinthos *
Profile Blog Joined February 2006
Canada1842 Posts
January 02 2009 10:26 GMT
#196
On January 02 2009 19:21 Puosu wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 02 2009 19:20 sung_moon wrote:
ah yea pusous stream working now

its yaoyuan .. not mine~

it's ogns.
NeVeR
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
1352 Posts
January 02 2009 10:27 GMT
#197
On January 02 2009 19:25 Puosu wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 02 2009 19:22 NeVeR wrote:
omg nony just beat a progamer in PGL.

lol.. Nony is a progamer himself now..


Actually he's not, as he has yet to win courage.
Sentenal
Profile Blog Joined December 2007
United States12398 Posts
January 02 2009 10:27 GMT
#198
On January 02 2009 19:25 Puosu wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 02 2009 19:22 NeVeR wrote:
omg nony just beat a progamer in PGL.

lol.. Nony is a progamer himself now..

Not yet, I don't think he got his license yet.
"Apparently, Sentenal is a paragon of friendship and tolerance. " - Ech0ne
AttackZerg
Profile Blog Joined January 2003
United States7454 Posts
January 02 2009 10:27 GMT
#199
I can't wait for these games. Magma is a huge zerg talent, its just a matter of if he ever brings that practice game skill to the big leagues. Flash is a monster either way I'm happy, but a part of me loves the estro guys/team from learning so much about them from artosis/idra/nony/daniel lee. I mean they all sound like goofy weird guys, how could I not like em.


Corinthos as usual you are the man, thx!
Puosu
Profile Blog Joined April 2007
6985 Posts
January 02 2009 10:28 GMT
#200
On January 02 2009 19:27 NeVeR wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 02 2009 19:25 Puosu wrote:
On January 02 2009 19:22 NeVeR wrote:
omg nony just beat a progamer in PGL.

lol.. Nony is a progamer himself now..


Actually he's not, as he has yet to win courage.

He is part of a team so he still has the same training environment and all so everything is the same but the license.

So really its the same thing license or no as long as you're part of a team and have the same practice environment.
RifleCow
Profile Joined February 2008
Canada637 Posts
January 02 2009 10:30 GMT
#201
Is there a stream that is actually dependable rite now?
hohoho
usopsama
Profile Joined April 2008
6502 Posts
January 02 2009 10:30 GMT
#202
Flash fighting!
Jaksiel
Profile Joined November 2008
United States4130 Posts
January 02 2009 10:31 GMT
#203
On January 02 2009 19:30 RifleCow wrote:
Is there a stream that is actually dependable rite now?


The mms://liveongame.gscdn.com/L1 seems to be working in VLC for people. It wasn't working for me, but I changed it to mmsh, and now it's working for whatever reason.
Zero fighting.
Cambium
Profile Blog Joined June 2004
United States16368 Posts
January 02 2009 10:32 GMT
#204
I hate the laglessness for commercials, wtf...

it's like they are doing this one purpose
When you want something, all the universe conspires in helping you to achieve it.
RifleCow
Profile Joined February 2008
Canada637 Posts
January 02 2009 10:32 GMT
#205
mine is playing really slow like slower than daum...
hohoho
whatusername
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
Canada1181 Posts
January 02 2009 10:32 GMT
#206
hey guys did soo have 170 supply at the end or 110
im gay
Cambium
Profile Blog Joined June 2004
United States16368 Posts
January 02 2009 10:32 GMT
#207
starting gogogoogogogo

GOOOOOOOOOOOO MAGMA
When you want something, all the universe conspires in helping you to achieve it.
Rostam
Profile Blog Joined December 2008
United States2552 Posts
January 02 2009 10:32 GMT
#208
On January 02 2009 19:31 Jaksiel wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 02 2009 19:30 RifleCow wrote:
Is there a stream that is actually dependable rite now?


The mms://liveongame.gscdn.com/L1 seems to be working in VLC for people. It wasn't working for me, but I changed it to mmsh, and now it's working for whatever reason.


afaik that stream works fine in windows media player.
BW forever || Thall
DownMaxX
Profile Joined August 2008
Canada1311 Posts
January 02 2009 10:32 GMT
#209
Here we GOGOGO!

Magma at 9, Flash at 6.
parasite
kemoryan
Profile Blog Joined December 2007
Spain1506 Posts
January 02 2009 10:32 GMT
#210
PRoxy!
Freedom is a stranger
Sentenal
Profile Blog Joined December 2007
United States12398 Posts
January 02 2009 10:33 GMT
#211
On January 02 2009 19:28 Puosu wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 02 2009 19:27 NeVeR wrote:
On January 02 2009 19:25 Puosu wrote:
On January 02 2009 19:22 NeVeR wrote:
omg nony just beat a progamer in PGL.

lol.. Nony is a progamer himself now..


Actually he's not, as he has yet to win courage.

He is part of a team so he still has the same training environment and all so everything is the same but the license.

So really its the same thing license or no as long as you're part of a team and have the same practice environment.

Its not the same thing, because you need a license to play in Starleagues and Proleague. Otherwise you are pretty much a practice partner.
"Apparently, Sentenal is a paragon of friendship and tolerance. " - Ech0ne
Cambium
Profile Blog Joined June 2004
United States16368 Posts
January 02 2009 10:33 GMT
#212
ummm, magma literally almost fell out of his chair, wtf?
When you want something, all the universe conspires in helping you to achieve it.
dragoonkf
Profile Blog Joined April 2007
Singapore1256 Posts
January 02 2009 10:33 GMT
#213
FLASH CHEEESSEE !!!!!
Inter.MinD/Free[gm]/Stork fan
usopsama
Profile Joined April 2008
6502 Posts
January 02 2009 10:33 GMT
#214
Yeah. Magma is gaining a lot of supporters.

If he even wins once against Flash in this set, I'll be a big fan of his.
DownMaxX
Profile Joined August 2008
Canada1311 Posts
January 02 2009 10:33 GMT
#215
Flash throws down a proxy rax in the middle.
parasite
village_idiot
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
2436 Posts
January 02 2009 10:33 GMT
#216
Magma reminds me of much

they both look like grandpas
PeAcY6969
Profile Joined January 2008
France621 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-01-02 10:35:19
January 02 2009 10:33 GMT
#217
maGma green zerg 10h
FlaSh red Terran 6h

FlaSh cheese O_O
"MBCGame HERO... What Else ?"
PoP
Profile Blog Joined October 2002
France15446 Posts
January 02 2009 10:33 GMT
#218
lol commentator spots the center rax like 15 secs late
Administrator
QibingZero
Profile Blog Joined June 2007
2611 Posts
January 02 2009 10:34 GMT
#219
Haha, the commentators weren't surprised in the least to see the proxy? Wtf!

Some clamor over the fact the scout misses it, though.
Oh, my eSports
Darth Peter
Profile Joined October 2008
Romania438 Posts
January 02 2009 10:34 GMT
#220
Go Magma,beat this cheesy n00b.
Cambium
Profile Blog Joined June 2004
United States16368 Posts
January 02 2009 10:34 GMT
#221
This is gonna be a bitch...

Magma does 12 hatch
When you want something, all the universe conspires in helping you to achieve it.
sung_moon
Profile Blog Joined September 2008
United States10110 Posts
January 02 2009 10:34 GMT
#222
bunker setting up at magma's nat
Forever Young
darktreb
Profile Joined May 2007
United States3016 Posts
January 02 2009 10:34 GMT
#223
Flash's bunker is up already with a Marine inside...
DownMaxX
Profile Joined August 2008
Canada1311 Posts
January 02 2009 10:34 GMT
#224
Bunker going up by Magma's 12hatch. Drones come out too late, marine gets in the bunker.
parasite
usopsama
Profile Joined April 2008
6502 Posts
January 02 2009 10:34 GMT
#225
God. He might get run over now.
sung_moon
Profile Blog Joined September 2008
United States10110 Posts
January 02 2009 10:34 GMT
#226
1 rine is sniped but so far 2 drones down... a third dies from wht i hear
Forever Young
Cambium
Profile Blog Joined June 2004
United States16368 Posts
January 02 2009 10:34 GMT
#227
bunker up, OL sees the marine....

Magma pulls a shitload of drones LATE
When you want something, all the universe conspires in helping you to achieve it.
sung_moon
Profile Blog Joined September 2008
United States10110 Posts
January 02 2009 10:35 GMT
#228
4 drones down... flash going mech with fast gas
Forever Young
usopsama
Profile Joined April 2008
6502 Posts
January 02 2009 10:35 GMT
#229
That is some good micro from Magma.
DownMaxX
Profile Joined August 2008
Canada1311 Posts
January 02 2009 10:35 GMT
#230
Decent drone micro keeps more marines from getting to the bunker. Pool up, zlings out.
parasite
Jaksiel
Profile Joined November 2008
United States4130 Posts
January 02 2009 10:35 GMT
#231
Drones kill a few marines. Bunker is slowly taking down the hatch.
Zero fighting.
Cambium
Profile Blog Joined June 2004
United States16368 Posts
January 02 2009 10:35 GMT
#232
nice drone macro by magma, flash manages to kill 3 drones.

gas already up for flash
When you want something, all the universe conspires in helping you to achieve it.
Jaksiel
Profile Joined November 2008
United States4130 Posts
January 02 2009 10:35 GMT
#233
Lings pop, take out the bunker and marine. Looks like mech for Flash.
Zero fighting.
sung_moon
Profile Blog Joined September 2008
United States10110 Posts
January 02 2009 10:36 GMT
#234
fact going up... 3 rines locking ramp
Forever Young
DownMaxX
Profile Joined August 2008
Canada1311 Posts
January 02 2009 10:36 GMT
#235
Magma gets the bunker and is in decent condition.

Flash building a factory back home.
parasite
Puosu
Profile Blog Joined April 2007
6985 Posts
January 02 2009 10:36 GMT
#236
On January 02 2009 19:33 Sentenal wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 02 2009 19:28 Puosu wrote:
On January 02 2009 19:27 NeVeR wrote:
On January 02 2009 19:25 Puosu wrote:
On January 02 2009 19:22 NeVeR wrote:
omg nony just beat a progamer in PGL.

lol.. Nony is a progamer himself now..


Actually he's not, as he has yet to win courage.

He is part of a team so he still has the same training environment and all so everything is the same but the license.

So really its the same thing license or no as long as you're part of a team and have the same practice environment.

Its not the same thing, because you need a license to play in Starleagues and Proleague. Otherwise you are pretty much a practice partner.

Yeah but your skill level or environment or w/e doesn't magically change after getting the license.
Domestica
Profile Blog Joined October 2005
United States411 Posts
January 02 2009 10:36 GMT
#237
dam nice sunken delay for the vultures!
Cambium
Profile Blog Joined June 2004
United States16368 Posts
January 02 2009 10:36 GMT
#238
magma dealt it pretty well I'd say...

Flash already has three rines up his ramp.
When you want something, all the universe conspires in helping you to achieve it.
usopsama
Profile Joined April 2008
6502 Posts
January 02 2009 10:36 GMT
#239
Flash does the eyebrow thing.
sung_moon
Profile Blog Joined September 2008
United States10110 Posts
January 02 2009 10:36 GMT
#240
vult being produced
flash also trying t get his nat up
Forever Young
iloveHieu
Profile Joined November 2007
United States1919 Posts
January 02 2009 10:36 GMT
#241
lagging as hell sighs I'll just read the live report..
Xellos <3
Vasoline73
Profile Blog Joined February 2008
United States7801 Posts
January 02 2009 10:36 GMT
#242
Flash.. so greedy! Getting his CC with 3 rines
food
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
United States1951 Posts
January 02 2009 10:37 GMT
#243
clash of the 2 facial expression specialists
Can someone ban this guy please? FA?
gravity
Profile Joined March 2004
Australia1847 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-01-02 10:39:10
January 02 2009 10:37 GMT
#244
On January 02 2009 19:13 Puosu wrote:
mms://liveongame.gscdn.com/L1


Thanks, this works perfectly :D

edit: dammit, jinxed it

edit2: ok, it's back, let's hope it stays up
Cambium
Profile Blog Joined June 2004
United States16368 Posts
January 02 2009 10:37 GMT
#245
This is the same build as

+ Show Spoiler +

canata vs jaedong

When you want something, all the universe conspires in helping you to achieve it.
QibingZero
Profile Blog Joined June 2007
2611 Posts
January 02 2009 10:37 GMT
#246
Apparently bunker rush into factory is the new 2fact vulture runby. Wonder what changed!
Oh, my eSports
usopsama
Profile Joined April 2008
6502 Posts
January 02 2009 10:37 GMT
#247
Great micro from Flash. SCV survives.
food
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
United States1951 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-01-02 10:38:21
January 02 2009 10:37 GMT
#248
haha that hidden hatch is pimp

o shit it actually blocks path
Can someone ban this guy please? FA?
Jaksiel
Profile Joined November 2008
United States4130 Posts
January 02 2009 10:38 GMT
#249
Vulture takes out a helpless larva. How cruel.
Zero fighting.
sung_moon
Profile Blog Joined September 2008
United States10110 Posts
January 02 2009 10:38 GMT
#250
man even thou i love flash the sudden influx of mech doesnt entertain me as much as MnM but they dont lol

wow nice the outside route is blocking vult with a hatch
Forever Young
DownMaxX
Profile Joined August 2008
Canada1311 Posts
January 02 2009 10:38 GMT
#251
Hatch behind natural blocking vulture lol.
parasite
usopsama
Profile Joined April 2008
6502 Posts
January 02 2009 10:38 GMT
#252
Rofl. Hatchery barricade.

Mine rapes a hydra hatching out.
Cambium
Profile Blog Joined June 2004
United States16368 Posts
January 02 2009 10:38 GMT
#253
oh shit, NICE block by magma on the hidden hatch.

but flash kills a hydra with mine...

flash planting mines everywhere
When you want something, all the universe conspires in helping you to achieve it.
sung_moon
Profile Blog Joined September 2008
United States10110 Posts
January 02 2009 10:39 GMT
#254
armory for flash now
magma teching lair
tanks out with seige +1 atk is upgrading for mech
Forever Young
Cambium
Profile Blog Joined June 2004
United States16368 Posts
January 02 2009 10:39 GMT
#255
vulture has three kills now.
When you want something, all the universe conspires in helping you to achieve it.
SaveYourSavior
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
United States1071 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-01-02 10:42:16
January 02 2009 10:39 GMT
#256
That blocking hatch, while a smart move, lets Flash's vulture pick off precious larva as they appear
a
sung_moon
Profile Blog Joined September 2008
United States10110 Posts
January 02 2009 10:39 GMT
#257
magma massing hydras and awww stream freezes
Forever Young
QibingZero
Profile Blog Joined June 2007
2611 Posts
January 02 2009 10:39 GMT
#258
Definitely a nice hatch location, even though it was rendered useless by that single vulture for a good minute or so.
Oh, my eSports
Jaksiel
Profile Joined November 2008
United States4130 Posts
January 02 2009 10:39 GMT
#259
Nice job sniping some slow vultures by Magma.
Zero fighting.
usopsama
Profile Joined April 2008
6502 Posts
January 02 2009 10:39 GMT
#260
Magma is showing a lot of promise. Let's see how he fares against Flash.
DownMaxX
Profile Joined August 2008
Canada1311 Posts
January 02 2009 10:39 GMT
#261
Magma's hydras owning some vultures. Flash getting defense up.
parasite
food
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
United States1951 Posts
January 02 2009 10:40 GMT
#262
for some reason i feel that magma has a plan
Can someone ban this guy please? FA?
darktreb
Profile Joined May 2007
United States3016 Posts
January 02 2009 10:40 GMT
#263
Double Lair for Magma...
QibingZero
Profile Blog Joined June 2007
2611 Posts
January 02 2009 10:40 GMT
#264
Oh snap, double lair.
Oh, my eSports
dragoonkf
Profile Blog Joined April 2007
Singapore1256 Posts
January 02 2009 10:40 GMT
#265
2 LAIR ??? Double upgrades for overlord, meaning speed drop !!!
Inter.MinD/Free[gm]/Stork fan
usopsama
Profile Joined April 2008
6502 Posts
January 02 2009 10:40 GMT
#266
Whoa. Double Lair.
PoP
Profile Blog Joined October 2002
France15446 Posts
January 02 2009 10:40 GMT
#267
magma should expand now

i don't understand why zergs are not a lot more aggressively expanding vs the mech build :/
Administrator
Cambium
Profile Blog Joined June 2004
United States16368 Posts
January 02 2009 10:40 GMT
#268
Definitely a quick drop...
When you want something, all the universe conspires in helping you to achieve it.
Cambium
Profile Blog Joined June 2004
United States16368 Posts
January 02 2009 10:41 GMT
#269
On January 02 2009 19:40 PoP wrote:
magma should expand now

i don't understand why zergs are not a lot more aggressively expanding vs the mech build :/


yea, I feel the exact same way.

what ggplay did vs. flash was PERFECT imo.
When you want something, all the universe conspires in helping you to achieve it.
usopsama
Profile Joined April 2008
6502 Posts
January 02 2009 10:41 GMT
#270
Flash's defense is pretty solid.
Elsi
Profile Joined October 2002
United Kingdom8173 Posts
January 02 2009 10:41 GMT
#271
2 lair?

whaa!!
food
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
United States1951 Posts
January 02 2009 10:41 GMT
#272
rofl that second gas is crucial
Can someone ban this guy please? FA?
DownMaxX
Profile Joined August 2008
Canada1311 Posts
January 02 2009 10:41 GMT
#273
Lurkers incoming.
parasite
usopsama
Profile Joined April 2008
6502 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-01-02 10:42:13
January 02 2009 10:41 GMT
#274
Magma picks off Flash's gas three times.
Cambium
Profile Blog Joined June 2004
United States16368 Posts
January 02 2009 10:42 GMT
#275
magma takes out the nat's gas three times.

I wonder if flash scanned magma's base yet.
When you want something, all the universe conspires in helping you to achieve it.
Jaksiel
Profile Joined November 2008
United States4130 Posts
January 02 2009 10:42 GMT
#276
Flash appears to have a control of Goliaths already.
Zero fighting.
Domestica
Profile Blog Joined October 2005
United States411 Posts
January 02 2009 10:42 GMT
#277
yeah he did
food
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
United States1951 Posts
January 02 2009 10:42 GMT
#278
k flash scanned it no surprise anymore
Can someone ban this guy please? FA?
Elsi
Profile Joined October 2002
United Kingdom8173 Posts
January 02 2009 10:42 GMT
#279
flash's macro is scary :O
usopsama
Profile Joined April 2008
6502 Posts
January 02 2009 10:42 GMT
#280
Here is comes! A drop!
oshibori_probe
Profile Blog Joined July 2006
United States2933 Posts
January 02 2009 10:42 GMT
#281
On January 02 2009 19:40 PoP wrote:
magma should expand now

i don't understand why zergs are not a lot more aggressively expanding vs the mech build :/


Vultures.
Fuck KeSPA.
Cambium
Profile Blog Joined June 2004
United States16368 Posts
January 02 2009 10:42 GMT
#282
shit, saw one lair, maybe saw two, yep

saw it.

flash knows drop is coming
When you want something, all the universe conspires in helping you to achieve it.
usopsama
Profile Joined April 2008
6502 Posts
January 02 2009 10:42 GMT
#283
God. Flash has a lot of units. It might be a rape.
Puosu
Profile Blog Joined April 2007
6985 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-01-02 10:43:28
January 02 2009 10:43 GMT
#284
I don't see how that dual lair can be good as he now already has (or nearly..) speed lords when the second lair finishes, thus he could just upgrade it on the original lair no?

He may get a few extra seconds but is it really wort it?
food
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
United States1951 Posts
January 02 2009 10:43 GMT
#285
if he overstretched himself on scans he will be so fucked lol
Can someone ban this guy please? FA?
Vasoline73
Profile Blog Joined February 2008
United States7801 Posts
January 02 2009 10:43 GMT
#286
This game is sssssssssick. Magma is crazy!
usopsama
Profile Joined April 2008
6502 Posts
January 02 2009 10:43 GMT
#287
I don't think this drop will work. I mean, Flash sees through it!
Cambium
Profile Blog Joined June 2004
United States16368 Posts
January 02 2009 10:43 GMT
#288
magma did a decent job up to this point...

drop coming...

flash has a ton of gollies inside his base waiting for this drop
When you want something, all the universe conspires in helping you to achieve it.
food
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
United States1951 Posts
January 02 2009 10:43 GMT
#289
has to get vessel now starport going up just now lol
Can someone ban this guy please? FA?
DownMaxX
Profile Joined August 2008
Canada1311 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-01-02 10:44:15
January 02 2009 10:43 GMT
#290
Magma finally taking another base. Blocked by another hatch.

Drop incoming.

Flash knew it was coming. No major damage.
parasite
Cambium
Profile Blog Joined June 2004
United States16368 Posts
January 02 2009 10:43 GMT
#291
here we go, drop coming......................................

shit

this is base for magma
When you want something, all the universe conspires in helping you to achieve it.
usopsama
Profile Joined April 2008
6502 Posts
January 02 2009 10:44 GMT
#292
Yep. The drop got raped.
Jaksiel
Profile Joined November 2008
United States4130 Posts
January 02 2009 10:44 GMT
#293
Drop pretty much fails, Flash should have this well under control.
Zero fighting.
Cambium
Profile Blog Joined June 2004
United States16368 Posts
January 02 2009 10:44 GMT
#294
the drop got completely raped...
When you want something, all the universe conspires in helping you to achieve it.
Cambium
Profile Blog Joined June 2004
United States16368 Posts
January 02 2009 10:44 GMT
#295
magma ahs some NICE hatch blocks all over the map, props to him for that.
When you want something, all the universe conspires in helping you to achieve it.
Domestica
Profile Blog Joined October 2005
United States411 Posts
January 02 2009 10:44 GMT
#296
magmas gonna get rolled any second now
Puosu
Profile Blog Joined April 2007
6985 Posts
January 02 2009 10:44 GMT
#297
wow how did Magma even expect that to be effective..
Jaksiel
Profile Joined November 2008
United States4130 Posts
January 02 2009 10:44 GMT
#298
Magma drops...ONE Lurker inside Flash's main.
Zero fighting.
food
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
United States1951 Posts
January 02 2009 10:44 GMT
#299
FINALLY DROPS MINERAL LINE
Can someone ban this guy please? FA?
usopsama
Profile Joined April 2008
6502 Posts
January 02 2009 10:44 GMT
#300
He drops a lurker!
PoP
Profile Blog Joined October 2002
France15446 Posts
January 02 2009 10:45 GMT
#301
This was pretty bad by magma. Drop when he's out, not when his whole shit is either in his main or nat?
Administrator
usopsama
Profile Joined April 2008
6502 Posts
January 02 2009 10:45 GMT
#302
Wow. This is over.
Cambium
Profile Blog Joined June 2004
United States16368 Posts
January 02 2009 10:45 GMT
#303
here comes the rollout by flash.. massive shit in thhe middle.

but magma ahs one more lurker wtf lol
When you want something, all the universe conspires in helping you to achieve it.
Jaksiel
Profile Joined November 2008
United States4130 Posts
January 02 2009 10:45 GMT
#304
Flash just rolls right up to Magma's natural and starts taking it out, Magma GG's.
Zero fighting.
usopsama
Profile Joined April 2008
6502 Posts
January 02 2009 10:45 GMT
#305
GG
DownMaxX
Profile Joined August 2008
Canada1311 Posts
January 02 2009 10:45 GMT
#306
Haha that was awesome. I love Magma.

Flash pushes and dominates. GG.
parasite
Cambium
Profile Blog Joined June 2004
United States16368 Posts
January 02 2009 10:45 GMT
#307
gg should be coming soon.

flash has three tanks 6 gollies and 2 vultures in mgma's nat.

gg
When you want something, all the universe conspires in helping you to achieve it.
darktreb
Profile Joined May 2007
United States3016 Posts
January 02 2009 10:46 GMT
#308
Ugh you can tell Magma had a plan going in, but where was the execution? And I say this as a Flash fan ... wanted to see more out of what could have been a good plan.
sung_moon
Profile Blog Joined September 2008
United States10110 Posts
January 02 2009 10:46 GMT
#309
bleh stream reloads as soon as magma gg's
Forever Young
Samurai-
Profile Joined May 2008
Slovenia2035 Posts
January 02 2009 10:46 GMT
#310
gg
One ring, to rule them all!
food
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
United States1951 Posts
January 02 2009 10:46 GMT
#311
this actually was closer then it looked, if he didnt waste that first drop so hopelessly
Can someone ban this guy please? FA?
Jaksiel
Profile Joined November 2008
United States4130 Posts
January 02 2009 10:46 GMT
#312
That one lurker drop was pretty hilarious.
Zero fighting.
PH
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
United States6173 Posts
January 02 2009 10:46 GMT
#313
Man, that drop was a terrible idea...the muta fake didn't work out, it would seem.
Hello
Cambium
Profile Blog Joined June 2004
United States16368 Posts
January 02 2009 10:46 GMT
#314
that was such a vanilla strategy, props to magma
When you want something, all the universe conspires in helping you to achieve it.
PeAcY6969
Profile Joined January 2008
France621 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-01-02 10:47:09
January 02 2009 10:46 GMT
#315
GG ! xD
"MBCGame HERO... What Else ?"
usopsama
Profile Joined April 2008
6502 Posts
January 02 2009 10:47 GMT
#316
Magma picked off Flash's gas really well. Magma definitely didn't play poorly. But that drop failed because Flash completely anticipated it.
Fwmeh
Profile Joined April 2008
1286 Posts
January 02 2009 10:47 GMT
#317
I hate that build so much
A parser for things is a function from strings to lists of pairs of things and strings
QibingZero
Profile Blog Joined June 2007
2611 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-01-02 10:48:30
January 02 2009 10:47 GMT
#318
Magma needed to feint hitting the natural a bit better than that. If he realized Flash knew what was up, he probably should have attacked the natural full force and saved just a couple overlords to use for a delayed drop.


Holy shit @ this stork commercial.
Oh, my eSports
usopsama
Profile Joined April 2008
6502 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-01-02 10:50:07
January 02 2009 10:49 GMT
#319
Magma's build would have worked a lot better if Flash didn't pick off 4+ drones with marines.
food
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
United States1951 Posts
January 02 2009 10:49 GMT
#320
lol double lair was definitely overkill, his timing never allowed him to drop hydra/lurk right when speeddrop finished in first place
Can someone ban this guy please? FA?
Cambium
Profile Blog Joined June 2004
United States16368 Posts
January 02 2009 10:50 GMT
#321
I don't think magma knew flash knew
When you want something, all the universe conspires in helping you to achieve it.
usopsama
Profile Joined April 2008
6502 Posts
January 02 2009 10:51 GMT
#322
Ohhh. Flash saw both Lairs.
alffla
Profile Blog Joined November 2005
Hong Kong20321 Posts
January 02 2009 10:52 GMT
#323
tvants hates me gODAMNITTttttt
Graphicssavior[gm] : What is a “yawn” rape ;; Masumune - It was the year of the pig for those fucking defilers. Chill - A clinic you say? okum: SC without Korean yelling is like porn without sex. konamix: HAPPY BIRTHDAY MOMMY!
usopsama
Profile Joined April 2008
6502 Posts
January 02 2009 10:52 GMT
#324
God. Flash is too good.
darktreb
Profile Joined May 2007
United States3016 Posts
January 02 2009 10:53 GMT
#325
What would have been sick would be a fake drop where he sends in all the Overlords (empty) and snipes the natural CC
Disarray
Profile Blog Joined December 2007
United States1164 Posts
January 02 2009 10:53 GMT
#326
if flash didn't know, woulda been a totaly diff game. that or if at least magma knew he knew, and waited/switched it up.
Input limit reached. Please wait to perform more actions.
Cambium
Profile Blog Joined June 2004
United States16368 Posts
January 02 2009 10:54 GMT
#327
personally, I think upgrading the hidden hatch could be a better idea
When you want something, all the universe conspires in helping you to achieve it.
Cambium
Profile Blog Joined June 2004
United States16368 Posts
January 02 2009 10:54 GMT
#328
On January 02 2009 19:53 Disarray wrote:
if flash didn't know, woulda been a totaly diff game. that or if at least magma knew he knew, and waited/switched it up.


I think Flash was going to move out when he scanned magma's nat to see his unit count, then he saw the drop -_-;;
When you want something, all the universe conspires in helping you to achieve it.
Domestica
Profile Blog Joined October 2005
United States411 Posts
January 02 2009 10:55 GMT
#329
On January 02 2009 19:54 Cambium wrote:
personally, I think upgrading the hidden hatch could be a better idea

yeah i was thinking that too! but a scouting vulture might have caught it
usopsama
Profile Joined April 2008
6502 Posts
January 02 2009 10:55 GMT
#330
Yeah, He really should be going Lair with a hidden hatchery.
dragoonkf
Profile Blog Joined April 2007
Singapore1256 Posts
January 02 2009 10:55 GMT
#331
Come on magma, take at least a game from Flash !!
Inter.MinD/Free[gm]/Stork fan
Cambium
Profile Blog Joined June 2004
United States16368 Posts
January 02 2009 10:56 GMT
#332
On January 02 2009 19:55 Domestica wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 02 2009 19:54 Cambium wrote:
personally, I think upgrading the hidden hatch could be a better idea

yeah i was thinking that too! but a scouting vulture might have caught it


Ah, very nice point!
When you want something, all the universe conspires in helping you to achieve it.
SaveYourSavior
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
United States1071 Posts
January 02 2009 10:57 GMT
#333
PGL spoiler:
+ Show Spoiler +
Nony loses to Eva in a brutal, tearjerking rape
a
CrackdowN
Profile Joined November 2008
Poland31 Posts
January 02 2009 10:57 GMT
#334
uhm... Why on Daum the stream don't work ?
sung_moon
Profile Blog Joined September 2008
United States10110 Posts
January 02 2009 10:57 GMT
#335
flash right
magma left

medusa lets go flash
Forever Young
Cambium
Profile Blog Joined June 2004
United States16368 Posts
January 02 2009 10:57 GMT
#336
Australia?

wtf?

Flash doing a wallin it seems, magma scouts with his 9th drone.

Now, a question to zerg players, isn't a 9 drone scout really early?
When you want something, all the universe conspires in helping you to achieve it.
Cambium
Profile Blog Joined June 2004
United States16368 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-01-02 10:59:15
January 02 2009 10:58 GMT
#337
magma doing 9 pool speedling (i think)
When you want something, all the universe conspires in helping you to achieve it.
Puosu
Profile Blog Joined April 2007
6985 Posts
January 02 2009 10:58 GMT
#338
On January 02 2009 19:57 Cambium wrote:
Australia?

wtf?

Flash doing a wallin it seems, magma scouts with his 9th drone.

Now, a question to zerg players, isn't a 9 drone scout really early?

More standard is 12, 9 is good if you're afraid of something.
sung_moon
Profile Blog Joined September 2008
United States10110 Posts
January 02 2009 10:58 GMT
#339
On January 02 2009 19:57 Cambium wrote:
Australia?

wtf?

Flash doing a wallin it seems, magma scouts with his 9th drone.

Now, a question to zerg players, isn't a 9 drone scout really early?


im not a zerg player but that sounds early as hell
Forever Young
usopsama
Profile Joined April 2008
6502 Posts
January 02 2009 10:59 GMT
#340
He is scared of another proxy, I guess?
AttackZerg
Profile Blog Joined January 2003
United States7454 Posts
January 02 2009 10:59 GMT
#341
a 9 drone scout is comon whenever you feel there is a high chance that terran will use sometime of proxy or early aggression or super greedy.

It also allows (if you find T early) for zerg to go 12 hat 12gas/11pool which gives great speedling/muta timing vs 12hat 11pool-10gas or 12hat 11gas 10 pool.
sung_moon
Profile Blog Joined September 2008
United States10110 Posts
January 02 2009 10:59 GMT
#342
1 rax cc for flash
Forever Young
DownMaxX
Profile Joined August 2008
Canada1311 Posts
January 02 2009 10:59 GMT
#343
Hey look a factory. Who knew?
parasite
iloveHieu
Profile Joined November 2007
United States1919 Posts
January 02 2009 10:59 GMT
#344
On January 02 2009 19:50 Cambium wrote:
I don't think magma knew flash knew


but did Flash know magma did not know?
Xellos <3
GTR
Profile Blog Joined September 2004
51453 Posts
January 02 2009 11:00 GMT
#345
flash is boring now
Commentator
Cambium
Profile Blog Joined June 2004
United States16368 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-01-02 11:01:01
January 02 2009 11:00 GMT
#346
On January 02 2009 19:59 iloveHieu wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 02 2009 19:50 Cambium wrote:
I don't think magma knew flash knew


but did Flash know magma did not know?


i see what you did there

no, i'm not going to post a picture
When you want something, all the universe conspires in helping you to achieve it.
Jaksiel
Profile Joined November 2008
United States4130 Posts
January 02 2009 11:00 GMT
#347
Magma is attacking the temples with 2 Zerglings?
Zero fighting.
Cambium
Profile Blog Joined June 2004
United States16368 Posts
January 02 2009 11:01 GMT
#348
he takes one down!
When you want something, all the universe conspires in helping you to achieve it.
Cambium
Profile Blog Joined June 2004
United States16368 Posts
January 02 2009 11:02 GMT
#349
is flash going to go mech every game now?
When you want something, all the universe conspires in helping you to achieve it.
Jaksiel
Profile Joined November 2008
United States4130 Posts
January 02 2009 11:02 GMT
#350
Factories 3 through 5 going up for Flash.
Zero fighting.
Jaksiel
Profile Joined November 2008
United States4130 Posts
January 02 2009 11:03 GMT
#351
Good building placements from Magma, Vultures can't get in.
Zero fighting.
DownMaxX
Profile Joined August 2008
Canada1311 Posts
January 02 2009 11:03 GMT
#352
Magma has really interesting ZvT.
parasite
PoP
Profile Blog Joined October 2002
France15446 Posts
January 02 2009 11:03 GMT
#353
i like how magma is playing this

expanding twice while going speed OLs + hydra range
Administrator
SaveYourSavior
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
United States1071 Posts
January 02 2009 11:04 GMT
#354
Magma really stopping vultures from doing any damage with great usage of buildings + hydras. 5 hydras + overlord prevents mines from being of any use
a
SilverSkyLark
Profile Blog Joined April 2008
Philippines8437 Posts
January 02 2009 11:04 GMT
#355
Ok, I won't even watch this...Flash has great TvZ and MagMa's ZvT isn't that great..
"If i lost an arm, I would play w3." -IntoTheWow || "Member of Hyuk Hyuk Hyuk cafe. He's the next Jaedong, baby!"
Rostam
Profile Blog Joined December 2008
United States2552 Posts
January 02 2009 11:04 GMT
#356
On January 02 2009 20:02 Cambium wrote:
is flash going to go mech every game now?


If he thinks it's the most effective route to take, then probably yes. It could be he simply believes it's the best counter to maGma's playstyle.
BW forever || Thall
Cambium
Profile Blog Joined June 2004
United States16368 Posts
January 02 2009 11:04 GMT
#357
flash is rolling out already, shit, that's crazy timing
When you want something, all the universe conspires in helping you to achieve it.
Cambium
Profile Blog Joined June 2004
United States16368 Posts
January 02 2009 11:05 GMT
#358
this is going to be gg soon I think...
When you want something, all the universe conspires in helping you to achieve it.
Elsi
Profile Joined October 2002
United Kingdom8173 Posts
January 02 2009 11:05 GMT
#359
flash raping here =o
DownMaxX
Profile Joined August 2008
Canada1311 Posts
January 02 2009 11:05 GMT
#360
Flash looks like a killer. Magma sweatin'.
parasite
sh02hp0869
Profile Joined January 2008
Sweden460 Posts
January 02 2009 11:05 GMT
#361
damn this was boring
Hello mother hello father
Domestica
Profile Blog Joined October 2005
United States411 Posts
January 02 2009 11:05 GMT
#362
wow drop ship too
usopsama
Profile Joined April 2008
6502 Posts
January 02 2009 11:06 GMT
#363
There is no way Magma can win now. Flash is too good.
Cambium
Profile Blog Joined June 2004
United States16368 Posts
January 02 2009 11:06 GMT
#364
magma is royally fucked
When you want something, all the universe conspires in helping you to achieve it.
Jaksiel
Profile Joined November 2008
United States4130 Posts
January 02 2009 11:06 GMT
#365
Watching his resource count makes me realize just how sick Flash's macro is.
Zero fighting.
sung_moon
Profile Blog Joined September 2008
United States10110 Posts
January 02 2009 11:06 GMT
#366
well gj flash

i wanta c u go sk more often but id rather c u win so meh
Forever Young
Elsi
Profile Joined October 2002
United Kingdom8173 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-01-02 11:08:06
January 02 2009 11:07 GMT
#367
woops!
Darth Peter
Profile Joined October 2008
Romania438 Posts
January 02 2009 11:07 GMT
#368
Fuck you Flash!
Cambium
Profile Blog Joined June 2004
United States16368 Posts
January 02 2009 11:08 GMT
#369
good try, but gg soon...
When you want something, all the universe conspires in helping you to achieve it.
DownMaxX
Profile Joined August 2008
Canada1311 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-01-02 11:09:21
January 02 2009 11:09 GMT
#370
And that's all she wrote. Flash is in your OSL.
parasite
Cambium
Profile Blog Joined June 2004
United States16368 Posts
January 02 2009 11:09 GMT
#371
gg
When you want something, all the universe conspires in helping you to achieve it.
Jaksiel
Profile Joined November 2008
United States4130 Posts
January 02 2009 11:09 GMT
#372
Too easy for Flash. Why couldn't Magma have been in the awful group from a couple nights ago? I mean, seriously...Tester?
Zero fighting.
usopsama
Profile Joined April 2008
6502 Posts
January 02 2009 11:09 GMT
#373
I hope Magma doesn't break down after seeing the gap between him and Flash.'


GG.
Samurai-
Profile Joined May 2008
Slovenia2035 Posts
January 02 2009 11:09 GMT
#374
magma 60% against flash in practice? haha.. jeah..
One ring, to rule them all!
dragoonkf
Profile Blog Joined April 2007
Singapore1256 Posts
January 02 2009 11:09 GMT
#375
Damn T_T poor magma, well at least he is in MSL.
Inter.MinD/Free[gm]/Stork fan
Cambium
Profile Blog Joined June 2004
United States16368 Posts
January 02 2009 11:10 GMT
#376
"blah blah blah, it's too easy for me, blah blah blah"
When you want something, all the universe conspires in helping you to achieve it.
KizZBG
Profile Blog Joined November 2006
u gotta skate8152 Posts
January 02 2009 11:10 GMT
#377
Damn unlucky for Magma having to play Flash >_<

On January 02 2009 20:09 Samurai- wrote:
magma 60% against flash in practice? haha.. jeah..

Flash was probably going mnm in those games? :p
eSTRO for life | #2 Sea.Really fan! | #1 GosI[Flying] fan! | Clide - best SC2 terran!
PH
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
United States6173 Posts
January 02 2009 11:10 GMT
#378
hmm...decent games, I guess...but Flash's timing and game sense is too good...wow.
Hello
Camlito
Profile Blog Joined July 2007
Australia4040 Posts
January 02 2009 11:11 GMT
#379
On January 02 2009 20:09 Samurai- wrote:
magma 60% against flash in practice? haha.. jeah..


Yeh it was in PRACTICE ffs, and flash just outplayed him right here. (Although TV or not, flash played really well, but magma showed promise)
sAviOr...
Domestica
Profile Blog Joined October 2005
United States411 Posts
January 02 2009 11:11 GMT
#380
his right eyes twitches alot
village_idiot
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
2436 Posts
January 02 2009 11:11 GMT
#381
What the fuck ?

No mutas, ground army...?
usopsama
Profile Joined April 2008
6502 Posts
January 02 2009 11:11 GMT
#382
Flash: "I do the eyebrow thing whenever I detect an easy win"
darktreb
Profile Joined May 2007
United States3016 Posts
January 02 2009 11:11 GMT
#383
I believe that Magma is really good in practice but if he can't figure out how to play better against good players on TV, well, it's a sad story in that case.
PeAcY6969
Profile Joined January 2008
France621 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-01-02 11:12:38
January 02 2009 11:12 GMT
#384
Flash are a monster lol


Flash 2-0 maGma
maGma 2-0 SoO

Please a translator for the interview xD
"MBCGame HERO... What Else ?"
.risingdragoon
Profile Joined January 2008
United States3021 Posts
January 02 2009 11:12 GMT
#385
dayum flash's got a squeaky midget voice
......::::........::::........::::........::::........::::.......::::.......::::... Up☆MaGiC ...::::.......::::.......::::........::::........::::........::::........
Disarray
Profile Blog Joined December 2007
United States1164 Posts
January 02 2009 11:12 GMT
#386
i think the most OP thing about this build or mu, is the fact that terran gets a cost-free risk-free scout everytime and how critical a scout is against the z player once the lair is done. nobody else gets that shit uhg
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Puosu
Profile Blog Joined April 2007
6985 Posts
January 02 2009 11:13 GMT
#387
I want to see a bad terran play Jaedong using this mech build and see if it actually is imba or if its just terrans being better right now..
MrHoon *
Profile Blog Joined April 2008
10183 Posts
January 02 2009 11:14 GMT
#388
Im starting to hate oov for making this gay ass build.

When people started doing the Mech build I thought to myself "Hey flash although you did bring back the use of mech at that game vs Jaedong, but you're too good for iloveoov's build arent you?"

I hope soon someone (don't care who) will make some counter build making this build look retarded as shit.
dats racist
jac
Profile Joined May 2008
Sweden115 Posts
January 02 2009 11:14 GMT
#389
Just me or does it seem like this mech play lacks viable counters?
p4NDemik
Profile Blog Joined January 2008
United States13896 Posts
January 02 2009 11:14 GMT
#390
On January 02 2009 20:13 Puosu wrote:
I want to see a bad terran play Jaedong using this mech build and see if it actually is imba or if its just terrans being better right now..

Canata vs. Jaedong from last night? Canata is not by any means good.
Moderator
Scaramanga
Profile Blog Joined March 2008
Australia8090 Posts
January 02 2009 11:14 GMT
#391
On January 02 2009 20:13 Puosu wrote:
I want to see a bad terran play Jaedong using this mech build and see if it actually is imba or if its just terrans being better right now..

Didnt you see canata vs jd?
jd got rolled
Loda talked about the fun counter, it's AdmiralBulldog on his natures prophet
Shikyo
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
Finland33997 Posts
January 02 2009 11:15 GMT
#392
Mech, mech, mech, mech, mech. You get some drones and an army, and when you think you're ready to defend they have an army twice the size of yours.
League of Legends EU West, Platinum III | Yousei Teikoku is the best thing that has ever happened to music.
sung_moon
Profile Blog Joined September 2008
United States10110 Posts
January 02 2009 11:15 GMT
#393
On January 02 2009 20:14 MrHoon wrote:
Im starting to hate oov for making this gay ass build.

When people started doing the Mech build I thought to myself "Hey flash although you did bring back the use of mech at that game vs Jaedong, but you're too good for iloveoov's build arent you?"

I hope soon someone (don't care who) will make some counter build making this build look retarded as shit.


more SK
Forever Young
village_idiot
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
2436 Posts
January 02 2009 11:15 GMT
#394
On January 02 2009 20:13 Puosu wrote:
I want to see a bad terran play Jaedong using this mech build and see if it actually is imba or if its just terrans being better right now..

That happened yesterday.

The terran won.
jac
Profile Joined May 2008
Sweden115 Posts
January 02 2009 11:15 GMT
#395
On January 02 2009 20:13 Puosu wrote:
I want to see a bad terran play Jaedong using this mech build and see if it actually is imba or if its just terrans being better right now..

+ Show Spoiler +
jaedong vs Canata last night.
KizZBG
Profile Blog Joined November 2006
u gotta skate8152 Posts
January 02 2009 11:16 GMT
#396
On January 02 2009 20:13 Puosu wrote:
I want to see a bad terran play Jaedong using this mech build and see if it actually is imba or if its just terrans being better right now..

Canata.
eSTRO for life | #2 Sea.Really fan! | #1 GosI[Flying] fan! | Clide - best SC2 terran!
sung_moon
Profile Blog Joined September 2008
United States10110 Posts
January 02 2009 11:16 GMT
#397
On January 02 2009 20:14 Scaramanga wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 02 2009 20:13 Puosu wrote:
I want to see a bad terran play Jaedong using this mech build and see if it actually is imba or if its just terrans being better right now..

Didnt you see canata vs jd?
jd got rolled


yea but that was JD's mistake on that 1 mien that took out like 5-6 hydras.... if they didnt die he prolly would of won since he was alryd in the nat with the few hydras he had left
Forever Young
Lebesgue
Profile Joined October 2008
4542 Posts
January 02 2009 11:17 GMT
#398
Gj Flash! Sorry maGma. Maybe next time?
SimonB
Profile Joined September 2008
United States1088 Posts
January 02 2009 11:17 GMT
#399
On January 02 2009 20:14 MrHoon wrote:
Im starting to hate oov for making this gay ass build.

When people started doing the Mech build I thought to myself "Hey flash although you did bring back the use of mech at that game vs Jaedong, but you're too good for iloveoov's build arent you?"

I hope soon someone (don't care who) will make some counter build making this build look retarded as shit.

Isn't the oov/fantasy build with valkyries? I thought this one was mostly upmagic's innovation?
GTR
Profile Blog Joined September 2004
51453 Posts
January 02 2009 11:17 GMT
#400
On January 02 2009 20:15 sung_moon wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 02 2009 20:14 MrHoon wrote:
Im starting to hate oov for making this gay ass build.

When people started doing the Mech build I thought to myself "Hey flash although you did bring back the use of mech at that game vs Jaedong, but you're too good for iloveoov's build arent you?"

I hope soon someone (don't care who) will make some counter build making this build look retarded as shit.


more SK


return of the sparks build.
Commentator
CrackdowN
Profile Joined November 2008
Poland31 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-01-02 11:26:41
January 02 2009 11:24 GMT
#401
Cantana vs Jaedong already uploaded on youtube ?
I can't find it. Link please

Edit: Found it np sry
Highways
Profile Joined July 2005
Australia6103 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-01-02 11:29:56
January 02 2009 11:27 GMT
#402
On January 02 2009 20:14 MrHoon wrote:
Im starting to hate oov for making this gay ass build.

When people started doing the Mech build I thought to myself "Hey flash although you did bring back the use of mech at that game vs Jaedong, but you're too good for iloveoov's build arent you?"

I hope soon someone (don't care who) will make some counter build making this build look retarded as shit.


Cant agree more.

MECH IS LAME.

TvZ is Starcraft's glamor matchup because its such a fast paced, and on a knife edge type of matchup. Lurker/ling flanks, scourge cloning, defiler use vs mnm splitting, multiple attacks everywhere, irradiating.

Whereas Mech is boring to watch and requires way less skill. Its basically attack move and easy macro (compared to microing mnm and pumping off 10+ barracks).

As much as I hate Terran, at least win with skill rather than this mech bullshit. You've already got an advantage over Zerg -.-
#1 Terran hater
Rostam
Profile Blog Joined December 2008
United States2552 Posts
January 02 2009 11:28 GMT
#403
On January 02 2009 20:11 Camlito wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 02 2009 20:09 Samurai- wrote:
magma 60% against flash in practice? haha.. jeah..


Yeh it was in PRACTICE ffs, and flash just outplayed him right here. (Although TV or not, flash played really well, but magma showed promise)


I'm not sure promise is really what maGma is going for at this point in his career. He's 5 years older than Flash and will (presumably?) be headed to the military within the next year or two.
BW forever || Thall
entrails
Profile Joined May 2008
United States93 Posts
January 02 2009 11:28 GMT
#404
On January 02 2009 20:14 Scaramanga wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 02 2009 20:13 Puosu wrote:
I want to see a bad terran play Jaedong using this mech build and see if it actually is imba or if its just terrans being better right now..

Didnt you see canata vs jd?
jd got rolled


In previous games I've seen JD play against mech he went for a more economic/mid game build with 3-4 bases. Vs canata he tried a 2 base all in hydra attack before siege (i think) and barely got thwarted by 1 bad mine (6 hydras?). Canata played very passive, so JD had time to come back, but he was still making up for a bad opener.
thunk
Profile Blog Joined March 2008
United States6233 Posts
January 02 2009 11:29 GMT
#405
It's is for sure clear that the ball is in Zerg's court for the next innovation .
Every time Jung Myung Hoon builds a vulture, two probes die. || My post count was a palindrome and I was never posting again.
usopsama
Profile Joined April 2008
6502 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-01-02 11:33:01
January 02 2009 11:29 GMT
#406
Oh no. It is spacesuit boxer. (I'm watching Star 7224 and Boxer is the guest star)
AttackZerg
Profile Blog Joined January 2003
United States7454 Posts
January 02 2009 11:32 GMT
#407
I think mech should always be used against jaedong/july/luxury/zero/ggplay since their micro and aggression is so strong, mech when it works, takes away alot of the micro and multi-tasking/multi-attacking situations that the best zerg thrive on.

I feel like zergs are quickly coming up while terrans aren't. If flash can use mech and stay on top, god bless him!
Vasoline73
Profile Blog Joined February 2008
United States7801 Posts
January 02 2009 11:39 GMT
#408
On January 02 2009 20:02 Cambium wrote:
is flash going to go mech every game now?


I don't understand why stuff like this is thrown out. Idra himself said that 2 hatch muta was impossible to stop on this new map and Medusa...... if Flash knows that some kind of 2 hatch muta is probable, why not force the game into a different style with early vulture pressure and mech? Especially Medusa which is hard as hell to play TvZ with MnM.

Mech can be gay I admit, but it's maps and the fact that zergs insist on 2 Hatch mutas nowadays. Which is also maps... so, really it's just maps...

*IMO*
KreaGata
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
United States1702 Posts
January 02 2009 11:53 GMT
#409
Agh, got home too late and missed this.

On January 02 2009 20:32 AttackZerg wrote:
I think mech should always be used against jaedong/july/luxury/zero/ggplay since their micro and aggression is so strong, mech when it works, takes away alot of the micro and multi-tasking/multi-attacking situations that the best zerg thrive on.

I feel like zergs are quickly coming up while terrans aren't. If flash can use mech and stay on top, god bless him!


Agreed - especially with JD's recent rapeage of Terrans going standard mnm, I foresee lots of shiny metal in his future.
the truest opportunists thrive in the maelstrom
3 Lions
Profile Blog Joined October 2007
United States3705 Posts
January 02 2009 13:32 GMT
#410
Zergs need to stop with the queen BS and use defilers. A lot.
Plague, from my experience, against mech is devastating. Dark swarm will nullify goliaths and vultures very well.
Samurai-
Profile Joined May 2008
Slovenia2035 Posts
January 02 2009 13:42 GMT
#411
i find terrans going mech very refreshing and good to watch..
One ring, to rule them all!
dmfg
Profile Joined May 2008
United Kingdom591 Posts
January 02 2009 13:53 GMT
#412
Jaedong did use a fair bit of swarm but it backfired on him nearly as often as it worked. Running hydras into a swarm only to find there are mines that you now can't kill before they blow isn't exactly fun.
Warrior Madness
Profile Blog Joined April 2008
Canada3791 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-01-02 14:16:26
January 02 2009 14:11 GMT
#413
What is it with going lurkers vs mech on Destination? Though I personally like the two hatch timing attack versus mech. By the time you have 10-12 mutas out the terran should only have about 7-8 goliaths and you can go for a break/kill his nat/delay his nat/do A LOT of damage early on while taking your third. You're definitely screwed if you mess up though.
The Past: Yellow, Julyzerg, Chojja, Savior, GGplay -- The Present: Luxury, Jae- The Future: -Dong, maGma, Zero, Effort, Hoejja, hyvaa, by.hero, calm, Action ---> SC2 (Ret?? Kolll Idra!! SEN, Cool, ZergBong, Leenock)
sung_moon
Profile Blog Joined September 2008
United States10110 Posts
January 02 2009 14:34 GMT
#414
On January 02 2009 22:42 Samurai- wrote:
i find terrans going mech very refreshing and good to watch..


it was when it was just starting to get really popular but now its getting pretty ridiculous. like sea and fbh are like the only terrans that go MnM constantly nowadays
Forever Young
AttackZerg
Profile Blog Joined January 2003
United States7454 Posts
January 02 2009 14:40 GMT
#415
On January 02 2009 23:34 sung_moon wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 02 2009 22:42 Samurai- wrote:
i find terrans going mech very refreshing and good to watch..


it was when it was just starting to get really popular but now its getting pretty ridiculous. like sea and fbh are like the only terrans that go MnM constantly nowadays


There are 3 terrans who are so good at mnm play they won't ever go mech often.

Sea,Hwasin,FBH

Those guys have such good micro and aggression that using mech would limit there skill. I do believe mech has a skill cap while bionic play doesn't imo.
tozi
Profile Joined October 2008
United States506 Posts
January 02 2009 14:43 GMT
#416
gogo flash. lol, owned magma.

Mech build owns.
nothing
sung_moon
Profile Blog Joined September 2008
United States10110 Posts
January 02 2009 14:43 GMT
#417
On January 02 2009 23:40 AttackZerg wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 02 2009 23:34 sung_moon wrote:
On January 02 2009 22:42 Samurai- wrote:
i find terrans going mech very refreshing and good to watch..


it was when it was just starting to get really popular but now its getting pretty ridiculous. like sea and fbh are like the only terrans that go MnM constantly nowadays


There are 3 terrans who are so good at mnm play they won't ever go mech often.

Sea,Hwasin,FBH

Those guys have such good micro and aggression that using mech would limit there skill. I do believe mech has a skill cap while bionic play doesn't imo.


shit how could i forget about red sniper
Forever Young
GTR
Profile Blog Joined September 2004
51453 Posts
January 02 2009 14:53 GMT
#418
Does anyone here notice that the person who qualifies is always in the left booth?
Has happened for all groups.
Commentator
gravity
Profile Joined March 2004
Australia1847 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-01-02 15:28:42
January 02 2009 15:28 GMT
#419
On January 02 2009 20:27 Highways wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 02 2009 20:14 MrHoon wrote:
Im starting to hate oov for making this gay ass build.

When people started doing the Mech build I thought to myself "Hey flash although you did bring back the use of mech at that game vs Jaedong, but you're too good for iloveoov's build arent you?"

I hope soon someone (don't care who) will make some counter build making this build look retarded as shit.


Cant agree more.

MECH IS LAME.

TvZ is Starcraft's glamor matchup because its such a fast paced, and on a knife edge type of matchup. Lurker/ling flanks, scourge cloning, defiler use vs mnm splitting, multiple attacks everywhere, irradiating.

Whereas Mech is boring to watch and requires way less skill. Its basically attack move and easy macro (compared to microing mnm and pumping off 10+ barracks).

As much as I hate Terran, at least win with skill rather than this mech bullshit. You've already got an advantage over Zerg -.-

While you do have a point about the potential excitement of traditional TvZ, there were too many games that went the exact same way. At least now there's something different. Lately I've found PvZ more interesting anyway.
Atrioc
Profile Blog Joined December 2007
United States1865 Posts
January 02 2009 19:45 GMT
#420
Just as a disclaimer, I dont think mech is imba

However, it is extremely frustrating, that the vulture is basically an air unit when it comes to zerglings - it simply cannot be killed by them with modern day patrol micro and it slaughters them so fast its not like it can just be ignored while you go for the SCV.

This allows Terran to bunker rush (even with proxy rax!) far too often without caring whether or not it succeeds becuase you can no longer simply counter with zerglings to punish them for the poorly executed rush, 1 vulture will simply rape your lings and you are now WAY behind instead of just slightly so.
Writerman what
Person514cs
Profile Blog Joined September 2004
1004 Posts
January 02 2009 20:58 GMT
#421
Mass Muta lings + defiler late game should counter mech very well.

But the problems is control large amount of lings effectively late game. You got to remember one control group is only 12 units. How on earth are you going to move around hundreds of lings at the same time and make them attack in a coordinated fashion while still in control of few groups of mutas?

While controlling 4,5 groups of Goliath, vultures and one groups of tanks is relatively easy.
Peace and love, for ever.
Kacas
Profile Joined July 2003
Brazil3143 Posts
January 02 2009 21:48 GMT
#422
Damn T imbalance
xD

we need more zergs =(
I Love Hyori Lee =* icq: 41760400 / msn: kayen_chn at hotm
KnightOfNi
Profile Joined December 2007
United States1508 Posts
January 02 2009 22:31 GMT
#423
F@#k you Flash I wanted a Zerg...

As much as I love Medusa, I hate that Terrans are all going mech on it .
RIP eSTRO :(
freelander
Profile Blog Joined December 2004
Hungary4707 Posts
January 02 2009 22:52 GMT
#424
On January 02 2009 23:53 GTR-2-Go wrote:
Does anyone here notice that the person who qualifies is always in the left booth?
Has happened for all groups.


the 2P joystick of the cabinet is broken
where is the operator
And all is illuminated.
Djabanete
Profile Blog Joined May 2008
United States2786 Posts
January 02 2009 22:54 GMT
#425
I thought Magma played very well. He clearly had prepared builds and there was nothing to criticize in his macro and unit control. In game 1, his strategy of denying gas (lowering tank count) and then dropping the main was nice, and the drop actually looked to me like it almost worked (one red tank, one new tank, a couple gols survived?); and continuing the harassment with another lurker drop was smart too. Flash was just too well prepared. Game 2 I think Flash just hit a perfect timing window, Magma was expecting him to stay at home a little longer. Against another Terran I think Magma would have definitely had a shot at making the Ro16.

Also, why are people so quick to complain about the new TvZ? MnM was the standard for about a million years, a lot of people still use it, and in all likelihood the pendulum will swing back eventually anyway. Just enjoy the metal while it lasts --- I for one find it interesting to watch. Mech TvZ has a lot of variations that haven't yet been fully explored, unlike MnM which has been very static lately (except for the Queens ). Right now the state of the game seems to reward the smart player who can adapt on the fly and who can outguess his opponent, which is always fun.
May the BeSt man win.
loupouk
Profile Joined May 2003
France105 Posts
January 03 2009 01:46 GMT
#426
only saw game1 with magma, and for me he did not played well at all :
massing hydra when behind economicaly instead of taking expand fast when flash has only 3 tank and can't be agressive at all and then dropping on a camping terran is not what I call played well. Even if i want more zerg in OSL, zerg playing like that deserve to be raped by flash.
Doso
Profile Joined March 2008
Germany769 Posts
January 03 2009 02:24 GMT
#427
On January 03 2009 07:31 KnightOfNi wrote:
F@#k you Flash I wanted a Zerg...

As much as I love Medusa, I hate that Terrans are all going mech on it .


You usually get raped if you don't so... mech is a must :[
L0thar
Profile Blog Joined September 2007
987 Posts
January 03 2009 03:51 GMT
#428
On January 03 2009 07:54 Djabanete wrote:
Also, why are people so quick to complain about the new TvZ? MnM was the standard for about a million years, a lot of people still use it, and in all likelihood the pendulum will swing back eventually anyway. Just enjoy the metal while it lasts --- I for one find it interesting to watch. Mech TvZ has a lot of variations that haven't yet been fully explored, unlike MnM which has been very static lately (except for the Queens ). Right now the state of the game seems to reward the smart player who can adapt on the fly and who can outguess his opponent, which is always fun.


Nah, in most cases it has nothing to do with mech in TvZ. Just some zerg fanboys/terran haters are upset because another zerg got raped by terran. And the fact that the terran is Flash is making it much worse for some individuals. Medusa was looking seriously imba for zerg (8:2 in first 10 matches) and now it's 6:4 in last 10 games in favor of terran. So it seems like zergs are loosing another playground which looked so promising at the begging.

It doesn't matter what you do in TvZ, you will always be the bad one for some people. Bunker rush? How dare you, you cheeser! Standard play? You are just another boring generic terran. SK Terran? Battlecruisers? You are just abusing imba units. 2 port wraith? You are just abusing lack of viable scouting zerg has early game. Mech? Just look in this thread .

On a different note, I feel bad for Magma. He would certainly raped for example Tester, but had to run into Flash instead...
infinity2k9
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
United Kingdom2397 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-01-03 05:18:58
January 03 2009 05:17 GMT
#429
Hi, feel free to explain to me if my opinion is wrong i only just signed up, been watching pro games for quite a while now. It seems to me currently that zerg is always on the back foot, and a zerg player against a terran player of the same skill seemingly will lose as long as the terran plays a solid game with little mistakes. Maybe it isn't true at the lower levels and less important games i don't see, but really from even the start of the games its zerg just trying to hold the opponent off. Like from the start of the game it seems terran have quite a few options they can go for and different builds/tactics to use, while zerg simply has to adapt to what they do.

Some of the top zerg do well still of course but it seems like any small mistake and the game is over for them and they have to play at an overall higher skill level to stand a chance. I know map sometimes can be a factor in this prehaps. If you can explain to me some reasons why im wrong id like it, i dont like to just say imba but to me it really seems that way.

edit: maybe this infact is a silly game to comment on as its the best terran possible. i think my point kinda still stands in some way though
MrHoon *
Profile Blog Joined April 2008
10183 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-01-03 05:48:32
January 03 2009 05:41 GMT
#430
Hey everyone Flash interview is up! Very interesting things about this

다음은 이영호와의 일문일답

- 6회 연속 16강 진출 소감
- This is the 6th time in a row you've been to OSL RO16
▲ 스타리그 6회 연속으로 올라갔는데 이제 2회 우승 할 때가 된 것 같다. 이번에 반드시 우승하겠다.
▲ This is my 6th time and I think its about time I need to win an OSL. I will make sure I will win.

- 메카닉 전략으로 승리했는데
- You used mech this time
▲ 요새는 그냥 메카닉을 하면 안되고 약간 변형시켜야 한다. 그게 잘 먹힌 것 같다. 상대가 철저히 대비해왔을 텐데 첫 경기에서 패해서 당황한 것 같다.
▲ These days you can't just use metal builds, you have to keep on changing it. I think it worked very well. Magma probably did really hard to prepare against this build but probably dropped the ball after the first game

- 첫 세트 센터 배럭 전략을 선택했다.
- At the first set you prepared a center rax
▲ 배럭 위치를 다 계산해온 것이다. 벙커링 이후 메카닉 전략까지 이미 준비되어 있었다.
▲ I calculated the barrack location. After the bunkering the metal was already in progress

- 상대의 드롭 공격을 완벽하게 막아냈는데
- You blocked the drop perfectly
▲ 스캔으로 더블 레어인 것을 확인했다. 그래서 드롭을 예상하고 방어한 것이다.
▲ I scanned and found a double lair. I knew I would get dropped so I defended.

- 두 번째 경기에서는 방어력 업그레이드를 했다.
- You upgraded armor first at the 2nd set
▲ 2해처리인 줄 알고 방어를 했다. 뮤탈리스크를 상대하기 좋도록 한 것인데 멀티를 해서 당황했다.
▲ I thought it was 2hatch so I defended. It was done so I can block mutalisks well but I was shocked to see a multi going up

- 메카닉 전략 어떤지
- How do you feel about mech builds?
▲ 연습 때는 많이 졌다. 메카닉이 방송에서는 쌔 보이지만 정말 잘하는 저그들과 하면 경기 양상이 다르다. 그래서 이제는 슬슬 메카닉을 사용하기 힘들 것 같다. 메카닉이 힘들어지면 다시 바이오닉 할 것이다. 난 원래 바이오닉 유저이고 오늘은 그냥 한번 메카닉을 해 본 것이다.
▲ When I practiced, I lost alot. Whenever I did Metal builds against good zerg players it was very difficult. So I believe it is going to be hard to use mech builds now. I will probably go bionic again. I was always known for my bionic plays anyways, so I thought I would try my metal just for today.

- 우승에 가장 걸림돌이 될 것 같은 선수는
- Which player(s) do you think will be the hardest this OSL?
▲ (신)상문이형이 요새 잘하고 있어서 어렵고, (이)제동이 형이 올라온다면 제동이형이나 아니면 육룡이 어려운 상대가 될 것 같다.
▲ Leta is so good these days so he will be hard, if Jaedong gets to RO16 definately him, and anyone from the 6 dragons.

- 16강에서 맞붙고 싶은 선수가 있다면
- Players you want to face at RO16
▲ 나를 이겼던 선수들이 올라온다면 지목해서 이기겠다. (김)준영이형도 그 대상에 들어가 있다. 복수를 해야 할 선수가 많다.
▲ Players who beat me to get up higher. I will target them. GGplay is one of the main ones. I must have my revenge!

- 새해 인사 한마디
- Anything for the new years?
▲ 팬 분들 응원해주셔서 감사 드린다. 이번 일요일에 (김)택용이형과 경기가 있는데 연습을 못해서 좀 아쉽지만 남은 시간 동안 열심히 준비해서 좋은 경기력으로 찾아 뵙겠다.
▲ I want to thank all my fans. This sunday I will be facing Bisu, but I couldn't practice for it so I feel bad. However I will practice really hard for that match in the time being. I will show everyone a good match.


What we learned
  • Flash who made Metal builds look fucking Imba, finds bionic more suited for his stlye (THANK GOD)
  • Flash does find Leta a very strong terran (there you go leta fans)
  • Flash is still out for revenge (lets hope it doesn't turn into Yellow vs Flash again)
  • Flash did not have time to practice against bisu
dats racist
Highways
Profile Joined July 2005
Australia6103 Posts
January 03 2009 09:32 GMT
#431
Thanks for the interview MrHoon!


On January 03 2009 14:17 infinity2k9 wrote:
a zerg player against a terran player of the same skill seemingly will lose as long as the terran plays a solid game with little mistakes.


Spot on. Some people on this forum like to hide behind the 'Starcraft is perfectly balanced' and turn a blind eye on how much Terran is raping Zerg these days (and arguably forever).
#1 Terran hater
loupouk
Profile Joined May 2003
France105 Posts
January 03 2009 11:42 GMT
#432
Not saying Starcraft is perfectly balanced, but you can't judge on a game like this when the zerg played like crap. A mech player can only be agressive with vulture early and midgame, he have to reach critical mass before rolling over the zerg. And a zerg who is overly agressive midgame instead of taking free expo when the terran is not dangerous at all die like magma. Even flash said it, mecha is not that good against a thinking zerg.
Warrior Madness
Profile Blog Joined April 2008
Canada3791 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-01-03 15:38:17
January 03 2009 15:37 GMT
#433
On January 03 2009 14:41 MrHoon wrote:
Hey everyone Flash interview is up! Very interesting things about this

[*] Flash did not have time to practice against bisu


This worries me. Thanks for the translation Mr.Hoon.
The Past: Yellow, Julyzerg, Chojja, Savior, GGplay -- The Present: Luxury, Jae- The Future: -Dong, maGma, Zero, Effort, Hoejja, hyvaa, by.hero, calm, Action ---> SC2 (Ret?? Kolll Idra!! SEN, Cool, ZergBong, Leenock)
Frits
Profile Joined March 2003
11782 Posts
January 03 2009 16:30 GMT
#434
flash what the fuck

you'd better not lose against bisu

Thanks for the translation MrHoon, you're awesome.
Lebesgue
Profile Joined October 2008
4542 Posts
January 03 2009 17:49 GMT
#435
On January 03 2009 14:41 MrHoon wrote:
Hey everyone Flash interview is up! Very interesting things about this

다음은 이영호와의 일문일답

- 6회 연속 16강 진출 소감
- This is the 6th time in a row you've been to OSL RO16
▲ 스타리그 6회 연속으로 올라갔는데 이제 2회 우승 할 때가 된 것 같다. 이번에 반드시 우승하겠다.
▲ This is my 6th time and I think its about time I need to win an OSL. I will make sure I will win.

- 메카닉 전략으로 승리했는데
- You used mech this time
▲ 요새는 그냥 메카닉을 하면 안되고 약간 변형시켜야 한다. 그게 잘 먹힌 것 같다. 상대가 철저히 대비해왔을 텐데 첫 경기에서 패해서 당황한 것 같다.
▲ These days you can't just use metal builds, you have to keep on changing it. I think it worked very well. Magma probably did really hard to prepare against this build but probably dropped the ball after the first game

- 첫 세트 센터 배럭 전략을 선택했다.
- At the first set you prepared a center rax
▲ 배럭 위치를 다 계산해온 것이다. 벙커링 이후 메카닉 전략까지 이미 준비되어 있었다.
▲ I calculated the barrack location. After the bunkering the metal was already in progress

- 상대의 드롭 공격을 완벽하게 막아냈는데
- You blocked the drop perfectly
▲ 스캔으로 더블 레어인 것을 확인했다. 그래서 드롭을 예상하고 방어한 것이다.
▲ I scanned and found a double lair. I knew I would get dropped so I defended.

- 두 번째 경기에서는 방어력 업그레이드를 했다.
- You upgraded armor first at the 2nd set
▲ 2해처리인 줄 알고 방어를 했다. 뮤탈리스크를 상대하기 좋도록 한 것인데 멀티를 해서 당황했다.
▲ I thought it was 2hatch so I defended. It was done so I can block mutalisks well but I was shocked to see a multi going up

- 메카닉 전략 어떤지
- How do you feel about mech builds?
▲ 연습 때는 많이 졌다. 메카닉이 방송에서는 쌔 보이지만 정말 잘하는 저그들과 하면 경기 양상이 다르다. 그래서 이제는 슬슬 메카닉을 사용하기 힘들 것 같다. 메카닉이 힘들어지면 다시 바이오닉 할 것이다. 난 원래 바이오닉 유저이고 오늘은 그냥 한번 메카닉을 해 본 것이다.
▲ When I practiced, I lost alot. Whenever I did Metal builds against good zerg players it was very difficult. So I believe it is going to be hard to use mech builds now. I will probably go bionic again. I was always known for my bionic plays anyways, so I thought I would try my metal just for today.

- 우승에 가장 걸림돌이 될 것 같은 선수는
- Which player(s) do you think will be the hardest this OSL?
▲ (신)상문이형이 요새 잘하고 있어서 어렵고, (이)제동이 형이 올라온다면 제동이형이나 아니면 육룡이 어려운 상대가 될 것 같다.
▲ Leta is so good these days so he will be hard, if Jaedong gets to RO16 definately him, and anyone from the 6 dragons.

- 16강에서 맞붙고 싶은 선수가 있다면
- Players you want to face at RO16
▲ 나를 이겼던 선수들이 올라온다면 지목해서 이기겠다. (김)준영이형도 그 대상에 들어가 있다. 복수를 해야 할 선수가 많다.
▲ Players who beat me to get up higher. I will target them. GGplay is one of the main ones. I must have my revenge!

- 새해 인사 한마디
- Anything for the new years?
▲ 팬 분들 응원해주셔서 감사 드린다. 이번 일요일에 (김)택용이형과 경기가 있는데 연습을 못해서 좀 아쉽지만 남은 시간 동안 열심히 준비해서 좋은 경기력으로 찾아 뵙겠다.
▲ I want to thank all my fans. This sunday I will be facing Bisu, but I couldn't practice for it so I feel bad. However I will practice really hard for that match in the time being. I will show everyone a good match.


What we learned
  • Flash who made Metal builds look fucking Imba, finds bionic more suited for his stlye (THANK GOD)
  • Flash does find Leta a very strong terran (there you go leta fans)
  • Flash is still out for revenge (lets hope it doesn't turn into Yellow vs Flash again)
  • Flash did not have time to practice against bisu



Thank you for translating and providing this. It is really interesting interview and all mech haters should read it.
mog87
Profile Joined October 2008
United States1586 Posts
January 03 2009 19:40 GMT
#436
Hes gonna poop on Bisu again..in fact hell prolly cheese him out again.
IPS.ZeRo
Profile Joined April 2003
Germany1142 Posts
January 03 2009 19:57 GMT
#437
wow thank you for your translations, i really appreciate that.
Very interesting that he thinks he is known for bionic play oO
aka DTF-ZeRo
zobz
Profile Joined November 2005
Canada2175 Posts
January 03 2009 22:22 GMT
#438
To speak of starcraft being imbalanced with above a certain amount of confidence is just ignorant. Starcraft is balanced enough that the maps on which everything depends can maintain a closer balance. Zerg is doing poorly these days against modern protoss and terran metagame developements on modern standard maps. All of that can change. But it's true that as of the current situation zerg seems to be the adapative race. And i eagerly await the map changes and metagame developements to come.
"That's not gonna be good for business." "That's not gonna be good for anybody."
Djabanete
Profile Blog Joined May 2008
United States2786 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-01-04 02:15:08
January 04 2009 02:14 GMT
#439
On January 04 2009 01:30 Frits wrote:
flash what the fuck

you'd better not lose against bisu

Thanks for the translation MrHoon, you're awesome.


Although I share the sentiment, I find it amusing that you have a T1 icon. ^^
(And honestly I won't mind if Bisu wins as long as they're good games.)
May the BeSt man win.
MrHoon *
Profile Blog Joined April 2008
10183 Posts
January 04 2009 05:58 GMT
#440
On January 04 2009 04:57 DTF-ZeRo wrote:
wow thank you for your translations, i really appreciate that.
Very interesting that he thinks he is known for bionic play oO

his mnm micro and macro is amazing
Sure he loses Zerg matches alot more than when he was at his prime, but have you seen him split his MNM? Its fucking amazing.
dats racist
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