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snapcrackle
Profile Joined December 2008
United States568 Posts
December 24 2008 01:43 GMT
#1181
Anyone know what was in that shuttle that jaedong sniped at around 16:53 in the vod (jaedong vs bisu). My stream on the live game cut out when they did the replay ><. It was the shuttle that got killed by hydras at 9 o'clock
Shikyo
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
Finland33997 Posts
December 24 2008 02:09 GMT
#1182
I have a feeling it had templars, but I can't really remember. Would be good to know.
League of Legends EU West, Platinum III | Yousei Teikoku is the best thing that has ever happened to music.
Jaksiel
Profile Joined November 2008
United States4130 Posts
December 24 2008 04:32 GMT
#1183
I have a serious mancrush on Jaedong. What slump?
Zero fighting.
monstar123
Profile Joined December 2008
United States516 Posts
December 24 2008 07:18 GMT
#1184
Where can i watch VOD Best vs Hiya ?
In youtube it is not released
Fontong
Profile Blog Joined December 2007
United States6454 Posts
December 24 2008 07:33 GMT
#1185
On December 24 2008 07:09 AzureEye wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 23 2008 23:38 EpiK wrote:
On December 23 2008 22:31 miseiler wrote:
Bisu might have the best PvZ overall, but Jaedong is the only zerg right now. Free's aggressive style is better suited to beating Jaedong.

I've said this before and I still stand by the claim that Free's pvz is overrated as shit. His wins vs JD were flukes and if JD played as well as he did today against bisu he would surely have beat free.
Also bisu being passive? Bisu's main problem that game was probably being too aggressive with his shuttle and delaying his third. JD was just prepared for his shuttle play, and had his hydralisks planted in the right spots. Bisu is still the greatest pvzer of all time and to suggest that the result would've been different if Free were in bisu's place is just stupid.



This. Bisu has the best PvZ of all time

Dude, you are forgetting the ORIGINAL Zerg killer.

+ Show Spoiler +
[image loading]


But yah, Bisu is good too...
[SECRET FONT] "Dragoon bunker"
Azrael1111
Profile Joined July 2008
United States550 Posts
December 24 2008 07:38 GMT
#1186
can someone explain to me how bisu could go down like 4 points and jaedong up 4 on elo from a game between them?
Avidkeystamper
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
United States8556 Posts
December 24 2008 07:44 GMT
#1187
On December 24 2008 16:38 Azrael1111 wrote:
can someone explain to me how bisu could go down like 4 points and jaedong up 4 on elo from a game between them?

He went down 12, how are you getting those numbers?
Jaedong
MrHoon *
Profile Blog Joined April 2008
10183 Posts
December 24 2008 07:46 GMT
#1188
On December 24 2008 16:33 Fontong wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 24 2008 07:09 AzureEye wrote:
On December 23 2008 23:38 EpiK wrote:
On December 23 2008 22:31 miseiler wrote:
Bisu might have the best PvZ overall, but Jaedong is the only zerg right now. Free's aggressive style is better suited to beating Jaedong.

I've said this before and I still stand by the claim that Free's pvz is overrated as shit. His wins vs JD were flukes and if JD played as well as he did today against bisu he would surely have beat free.
Also bisu being passive? Bisu's main problem that game was probably being too aggressive with his shuttle and delaying his third. JD was just prepared for his shuttle play, and had his hydralisks planted in the right spots. Bisu is still the greatest pvzer of all time and to suggest that the result would've been different if Free were in bisu's place is just stupid.



This. Bisu has the best PvZ of all time

Dude, you are forgetting the ORIGINAL Zerg killer.

+ Show Spoiler +
[image loading]


But yah, Bisu is good too...

kids these days don't know shit about "Darkness" fontong
dats racist
baubo
Profile Joined September 2008
China3370 Posts
December 24 2008 08:20 GMT
#1189
On December 24 2008 16:33 Fontong wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 24 2008 07:09 AzureEye wrote:
On December 23 2008 23:38 EpiK wrote:
On December 23 2008 22:31 miseiler wrote:
Bisu might have the best PvZ overall, but Jaedong is the only zerg right now. Free's aggressive style is better suited to beating Jaedong.

I've said this before and I still stand by the claim that Free's pvz is overrated as shit. His wins vs JD were flukes and if JD played as well as he did today against bisu he would surely have beat free.
Also bisu being passive? Bisu's main problem that game was probably being too aggressive with his shuttle and delaying his third. JD was just prepared for his shuttle play, and had his hydralisks planted in the right spots. Bisu is still the greatest pvzer of all time and to suggest that the result would've been different if Free were in bisu's place is just stupid.



This. Bisu has the best PvZ of all time

Dude, you are forgetting the ORIGINAL Zerg killer.

+ Show Spoiler +
[image loading]


But yah, Bisu is good too...


I have to disagree with you there. Two points to consider.

1. Bisu revolutionized PvZ play. You get brownie points for that.
2. Anytime's zerg dominance came AFTER Bisu's incredible 3-0 of Savior and introduced the Bisu build.

I know Bisu kind of gets overrated by some, but I don't think it's a stretch to say he is the PvZ master.
Meh
hk2717
Profile Joined July 2008
123 Posts
December 24 2008 08:28 GMT
#1190
On December 24 2008 16:18 monstar123 wrote:
Where can i watch VOD Best vs Hiya ?
In youtube it is not released


Here:
http://www.wfbrood.com/xingji/hanguoxingji/xingji_34808.html
Zyraxes
Profile Joined December 2008
Romania10 Posts
Last Edited: 2008-12-24 09:03:32
December 24 2008 09:03 GMT
#1191
Can anyone make a new topic with

Batoo OnGameNet Starleague Ro36 - Group C

Set 1: (T)go.go vs (Z)FireFist
Set 2: (P)BackHo vs Winner

Map Order: Tears of the Moon, Medusa, Return of the King

It says to me that i cant make one thread coz im too new. So please make one someone.

Also, i remember the very original zerg killer- (P)IntoTheRainBOw, god i (Z)Love oldies :D
Humanity is overrated. Reality is almost always wrong. I'm not suffering from insanity, i'm enjoin' it
Shikyo
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
Finland33997 Posts
December 24 2008 13:27 GMT
#1192
On December 24 2008 16:33 Fontong wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 24 2008 07:09 AzureEye wrote:
On December 23 2008 23:38 EpiK wrote:
On December 23 2008 22:31 miseiler wrote:
Bisu might have the best PvZ overall, but Jaedong is the only zerg right now. Free's aggressive style is better suited to beating Jaedong.

I've said this before and I still stand by the claim that Free's pvz is overrated as shit. His wins vs JD were flukes and if JD played as well as he did today against bisu he would surely have beat free.
Also bisu being passive? Bisu's main problem that game was probably being too aggressive with his shuttle and delaying his third. JD was just prepared for his shuttle play, and had his hydralisks planted in the right spots. Bisu is still the greatest pvzer of all time and to suggest that the result would've been different if Free were in bisu's place is just stupid.



This. Bisu has the best PvZ of all time

Dude, you are forgetting the ORIGINAL Zerg killer.

+ Show Spoiler +
[image loading]


But yah, Bisu is good too...

Not forgetting anyone, Bisu just is a better PvZer.
League of Legends EU West, Platinum III | Yousei Teikoku is the best thing that has ever happened to music.
Lukeeze[zR]
Profile Joined February 2006
Switzerland6838 Posts
December 24 2008 15:46 GMT
#1193
anytime the "original zerg killer" ? whatever
Terran & Potato Salad.
.risingdragoon
Profile Joined January 2008
United States3021 Posts
December 24 2008 15:57 GMT
#1194
anytime's known for resurrecting the dt use in pvz

the original zerg killer's probably nalra, then free, although bisu pioneered a consistent strategy vs savior's zvp and later all zergs
......::::........::::........::::........::::........::::.......::::.......::::... Up☆MaGiC ...::::.......::::.......::::........::::........::::........::::........
Ronald_McD
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
Canada807 Posts
December 24 2008 16:44 GMT
#1195
Finally got around to watching this

Jaedong played so great.
I loved the match of him vs Bisu, even though it was kinda one sided.
Jaedong fighting!
FUCKING GAY LAGS
nimysa
Profile Blog Joined March 2008
United States383 Posts
Last Edited: 2008-12-24 17:29:15
December 24 2008 17:28 GMT
#1196
On December 24 2008 17:20 baubo wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 24 2008 16:33 Fontong wrote:
On December 24 2008 07:09 AzureEye wrote:
On December 23 2008 23:38 EpiK wrote:
On December 23 2008 22:31 miseiler wrote:
Bisu might have the best PvZ overall, but Jaedong is the only zerg right now. Free's aggressive style is better suited to beating Jaedong.

I've said this before and I still stand by the claim that Free's pvz is overrated as shit. His wins vs JD were flukes and if JD played as well as he did today against bisu he would surely have beat free.
Also bisu being passive? Bisu's main problem that game was probably being too aggressive with his shuttle and delaying his third. JD was just prepared for his shuttle play, and had his hydralisks planted in the right spots. Bisu is still the greatest pvzer of all time and to suggest that the result would've been different if Free were in bisu's place is just stupid.



This. Bisu has the best PvZ of all time

Dude, you are forgetting the ORIGINAL Zerg killer.

+ Show Spoiler +
[image loading]


But yah, Bisu is good too...


I have to disagree with you there. Two points to consider.

1. Bisu revolutionized PvZ play. You get brownie points for that.
2. Anytime's zerg dominance came AFTER Bisu's incredible 3-0 of Savior and introduced the Bisu build.

I know Bisu kind of gets overrated by some, but I don't think it's a stretch to say he is the PvZ master.

Incorrect

Bisu did not revolutionize PvZ, the whole forge expand build was known way before his time, and his corsair-DT harass style was invented by Nal_ra and Daezang, no brownie points for you I am afraid.

Secondly, WTF are you talking about? Were you even here when Anytime won So1? Anytime's zerg dominance started before Bisu even was in the big leagues, he took out pretty much all the big zergs such as Yellow and July. He did the infamous DT rush vs Yellow which was a pimpest play. Anytime was the zerg killer in pre-savior era.

Seriously what is it with these stupid noobs who don't know anything about Starcraft history, blabbering like they know any shit at all.
Shikyo
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
Finland33997 Posts
December 24 2008 17:50 GMT
#1197
On December 25 2008 02:28 nimysa wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 24 2008 17:20 baubo wrote:
On December 24 2008 16:33 Fontong wrote:
On December 24 2008 07:09 AzureEye wrote:
On December 23 2008 23:38 EpiK wrote:
On December 23 2008 22:31 miseiler wrote:
Bisu might have the best PvZ overall, but Jaedong is the only zerg right now. Free's aggressive style is better suited to beating Jaedong.

I've said this before and I still stand by the claim that Free's pvz is overrated as shit. His wins vs JD were flukes and if JD played as well as he did today against bisu he would surely have beat free.
Also bisu being passive? Bisu's main problem that game was probably being too aggressive with his shuttle and delaying his third. JD was just prepared for his shuttle play, and had his hydralisks planted in the right spots. Bisu is still the greatest pvzer of all time and to suggest that the result would've been different if Free were in bisu's place is just stupid.



This. Bisu has the best PvZ of all time

Dude, you are forgetting the ORIGINAL Zerg killer.

+ Show Spoiler +
[image loading]


But yah, Bisu is good too...


I have to disagree with you there. Two points to consider.

1. Bisu revolutionized PvZ play. You get brownie points for that.
2. Anytime's zerg dominance came AFTER Bisu's incredible 3-0 of Savior and introduced the Bisu build.

I know Bisu kind of gets overrated by some, but I don't think it's a stretch to say he is the PvZ master.

Incorrect

Bisu did not revolutionize PvZ, the whole forge expand build was known way before his time, and his corsair-DT harass style was invented by Nal_ra and Daezang, no brownie points for you I am afraid.

Secondly, WTF are you talking about? Were you even here when Anytime won So1? Anytime's zerg dominance started before Bisu even was in the big leagues, he took out pretty much all the big zergs such as Yellow and July. He did the infamous DT rush vs Yellow which was a pimpest play. Anytime was the zerg killer in pre-savior era.

Seriously what is it with these stupid noobs who don't know anything about Starcraft history, blabbering like they know any shit at all.
Yeah, he was a good PvZer and so on. But as I said, not as good as Bisu. I never denied that Anytime was good, but I also sure hope that you're not saying that his PvZ is better than Bisu's.
League of Legends EU West, Platinum III | Yousei Teikoku is the best thing that has ever happened to music.
d(O.o)a
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
Canada5066 Posts
December 24 2008 17:55 GMT
#1198
Jaedong so clutch, pulling off 2 wins against 2 monsters of SKT.
Hi.
kemoryan
Profile Blog Joined December 2007
Spain1506 Posts
December 24 2008 18:10 GMT
#1199
On December 25 2008 02:28 nimysa wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 24 2008 17:20 baubo wrote:
On December 24 2008 16:33 Fontong wrote:
On December 24 2008 07:09 AzureEye wrote:
On December 23 2008 23:38 EpiK wrote:
On December 23 2008 22:31 miseiler wrote:
Bisu might have the best PvZ overall, but Jaedong is the only zerg right now. Free's aggressive style is better suited to beating Jaedong.

I've said this before and I still stand by the claim that Free's pvz is overrated as shit. His wins vs JD were flukes and if JD played as well as he did today against bisu he would surely have beat free.
Also bisu being passive? Bisu's main problem that game was probably being too aggressive with his shuttle and delaying his third. JD was just prepared for his shuttle play, and had his hydralisks planted in the right spots. Bisu is still the greatest pvzer of all time and to suggest that the result would've been different if Free were in bisu's place is just stupid.



This. Bisu has the best PvZ of all time

Dude, you are forgetting the ORIGINAL Zerg killer.

+ Show Spoiler +
[image loading]


But yah, Bisu is good too...


I have to disagree with you there. Two points to consider.

1. Bisu revolutionized PvZ play. You get brownie points for that.
2. Anytime's zerg dominance came AFTER Bisu's incredible 3-0 of Savior and introduced the Bisu build.

I know Bisu kind of gets overrated by some, but I don't think it's a stretch to say he is the PvZ master.

Incorrect

Bisu did not revolutionize PvZ, the whole forge expand build was known way before his time, and his corsair-DT harass style was invented by Nal_ra and Daezang, no brownie points for you I am afraid.

Secondly, WTF are you talking about? Were you even here when Anytime won So1? Anytime's zerg dominance started before Bisu even was in the big leagues, he took out pretty much all the big zergs such as Yellow and July. He did the infamous DT rush vs Yellow which was a pimpest play. Anytime was the zerg killer in pre-savior era.

Seriously what is it with these stupid noobs who don't know anything about Starcraft history, blabbering like they know any shit at all.


If Bisu didn't revolutionize PvZ then why is he called the Revolutionist?
Revolutionizing a match up doesn't necessarily mean inventing a new BO, it can be many things, the only thing important is how much does those things affect the match up, and he definitely affected the match up enough to be called a revolution of PvZ. Of course that could be subjective but I think many people might agree that he did.
Freedom is a stranger
MrHoon *
Profile Blog Joined April 2008
10183 Posts
December 24 2008 18:23 GMT
#1200
(P)Bisu vs (Z)Jaedong = OMFGGGG EPICCC (fucking agree, chills all over my body watching this)

(P)Stork vs (T)Flash = eww.

Goddamnit Flash/Stork, pick it up your rivals deliver us better games.
dats racist
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