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Empyrean
Profile Blog Joined September 2004
17030 Posts
December 16 2008 07:01 GMT
#341
Calm top right zerg, Iris bottom left terran.
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alphafuzard
Profile Blog Joined June 2007
United States1610 Posts
December 16 2008 07:02 GMT
#342
Judging from Calm's crap game vs Effort, I would say Iris is coming in with a significant mental advantage, not to mention a somewhat t>z map (albeit a tiny sample space of games)

I see a top form Iris steamrolling Calm
more weight
jigga
Profile Joined April 2008
Canada1141 Posts
December 16 2008 07:02 GMT
#343
Calm just lost..why would they send him out o.O
Fontong
Profile Blog Joined December 2007
United States6454 Posts
December 16 2008 07:03 GMT
#344
On December 16 2008 16:02 jigga wrote:
Calm just lost..why would they send him out o.O

Maybe it was planned ahead of time?
[SECRET FONT] "Dragoon bunker"
Rostam
Profile Blog Joined December 2008
United States2552 Posts
December 16 2008 07:04 GMT
#345
On December 16 2008 16:02 jigga wrote:
Calm just lost..why would they send him out o.O


Probably because TvZ is Iris's weakest matchup and they feel like Calm has been doing better than July lately.
BW forever || Thall
alphafuzard
Profile Blog Joined June 2007
United States1610 Posts
December 16 2008 07:04 GMT
#346
12 hatch 11 pool by calm, iris scouts after supply
calm not saving larvae for lings, looks like he wants to power drones early
gas and 3rd hatch going down for calm
more weight
Empyrean
Profile Blog Joined September 2004
17030 Posts
December 16 2008 07:04 GMT
#347
Only nine posts left that I can use!

<_<

I better conserve them.

Terran fast expands, Zerg does as well, with a third hat at ramp. Zerg is taking gas, hat already finished at nat.
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KreaGata
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
United States1702 Posts
December 16 2008 07:05 GMT
#348
Game is looking pretty standard so far!
the truest opportunists thrive in the maelstrom
TheTyranid
Profile Blog Joined April 2007
Russian Federation4333 Posts
December 16 2008 07:05 GMT
#349
Oh shoot, Iris is on a 6 game win streak in TvZ. Didn't see that one.

His overall TvZ percentage is still one of the worst in progaming though.

LinYu)Fury
Profile Joined September 2003
Norway200 Posts
December 16 2008 07:05 GMT
#350
stream?
Camlito
Profile Blog Joined July 2007
Australia4040 Posts
December 16 2008 07:05 GMT
#351
OH FUCK I JUST REALIZED IRIS IS IN MY FANTASY TEAM.

All the more reason to cheer him and a CJ win .
sAviOr...
Plutonium
Profile Joined November 2007
United States2217 Posts
December 16 2008 07:06 GMT
#352
Calm could use a sunken or three about now.
baubo
Profile Joined September 2008
China3370 Posts
Last Edited: 2008-12-16 07:08:01
December 16 2008 07:06 GMT
#353
On December 16 2008 16:02 jigga wrote:
Calm just lost..why would they send him out o.O


In proleagues map is a very decisive factor. Calm has played on Harmony in ace before and won against ForGG. I'm sure it's just a familiarity thing.

Edit: That and the fact that Hwasin the default terran to send on harmony is just horrible lately.
Meh
thunk
Profile Blog Joined March 2008
United States6233 Posts
December 16 2008 07:07 GMT
#354
On December 16 2008 15:52 Deletrious wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 16 2008 15:50 thunk wrote:
On December 16 2008 15:36 mmgoose wrote:
On December 16 2008 15:35 MuShu wrote:
On December 16 2008 15:34 Manit0u wrote:
I want July to move to SKT

That didn't work out the first time, probably won't again.


what happened?


There wasn't really any one reason, it was a combination of factors.

Rumors include (in order of relevancy):
a) tension with Bisu, who had also moved to SKT from MBC
b) poor performance from July
c) being coached by iloveOOv, rival and then-retired.



So what is the history between July and Bisu? They don't like each other or what?


I forgot to mention b.5, that SKT1 wasn't doing so hot either. I don't know, they just don't get along. And if you look at their history of games July is 3-2, but his 2nd win (on blue storm) was a disconnect between Bisu and July with July given the win. If you look at the game, Bisu was so far behind but at the time Bisu was Bisu-unbeatable and if a DT was out the game would have been a rematch. But the DT wasn't out and the win was given to July. And the ones in the Bacchus and Incruit OSL they played each other in the group stages, and then the tie breakers. (Bisu advanced both times; they did not meet in the Ever OSL). They have a close rivalry going.

From here on out, it's speculation:
You can probably also relate it to the fact that Bisu is the PvZ killer who invented the Protoss FE and July is the type of person to go for the 2 hatch hydra cannon breaks or ling all-ins every time and I bet that caused some friction. In the most dramatic sense, it is a battle of styles.
You can't forget that MBC is July's team. He built it from POS, from his own effort. Bisu came in, FE'd his way to victory, and became the face of MBC. I can't remember who was traded first, but I think it was July, and he was forced to leave his team (to SKT1) and Bisu then followed. I bet that was annoying for July. If Bisu was traded first, this point is only marginally valid; July was playing poorly when Bisu was dominate though.
Every time Jung Myung Hoon builds a vulture, two probes die. || My post count was a palindrome and I was never posting again.
alphafuzard
Profile Blog Joined June 2007
United States1610 Posts
December 16 2008 07:07 GMT
#355
iris's cc finishes, iris unable to get his scv into calm's main again

nat gas going down for calm

speed lings snipe 2 scvs at iris's nat

spire for calm, but its a fake, iris's eng bay going down

a few lings sneak through, but are dealt with quickly
more weight
Plutonium
Profile Joined November 2007
United States2217 Posts
December 16 2008 07:08 GMT
#356
Calm doing the Savior build.
LinYu)Fury
Profile Joined September 2003
Norway200 Posts
December 16 2008 07:09 GMT
#357
stream plz ^^
alphafuzard
Profile Blog Joined June 2007
United States1610 Posts
December 16 2008 07:09 GMT
#358
iris pushes out, calm trying to get sunkens down

calm takes bottom right, with 2 hydras ready to morph on teh ramp
calms queens nest is starting quickly lurkers pop, looks like iris is going to try and use his initial mmf force to contain

factory finished for iris with port coming in
hive started morphing for calm
more weight
thunk
Profile Blog Joined March 2008
United States6233 Posts
December 16 2008 07:09 GMT
#359
I haven't seen MnM versus Lurker micro in a while.
Every time Jung Myung Hoon builds a vulture, two probes die. || My post count was a palindrome and I was never posting again.
Plutonium
Profile Joined November 2007
United States2217 Posts
December 16 2008 07:09 GMT
#360
I have no idea how Calm intends to stop Iris's midgame ball, it's going to hit his sunken line before defilers are out.
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