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On December 03 2008 17:22 geno wrote:Show nested quote +On December 03 2008 16:52 3clipse wrote: Well gg... how is it we manage to beat all the best teams and lose to all the low-tier teams? OGN is not a low tier team lol. They are now ranked higher than STX, in second place just behind Lecaf.
They've traditionally been a low-tier team. I guess this wasn't the best example because of their good showing this season, but the rest of STX's matches have been addmitedly odd. We've beaten KHAN, Oz, KTF and lost to MBC and FOX.
Ty for the chart. Crazy how volatile things have been. But on that note, it's a bit tough to tell the low-tier from the high-tier at this early stage in the proleague- loads of teams are tied for a spot and 2 consecutive wins or losses could mean huge changes in the rankings. Until things settle down, previous seasons and individual talent can probably tell us more about a team's future than the way the rankings are going right now.
Which likely isn't that good for my team. :/ We probably can't hold a high position unless Hwasin comes out of his slump... it's not going to cut it to have only 2 solid proleague options.
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Just watched the last game, Yarnc played really well. Like someone said earlier, reminded me of Jaedong's early play.
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YEEEEESSSSS!!! AT LAST!
I've been waiting for this for soooooooooooooooo long: The moment when Yarnc wins a ZvP purely by being the better player and not because the P made a lot of mistakes or anything. Yarnc just outplayed him.
After watching the yarnc bisu ZvP I noticed that yarnc definitely had been practicing his one weak MU. But I hardly expected this, a dominating win over one of the three best PvZ:ers in the world.
I think Yarnc suddenly surpassed his brother.
Ps. Imagine what a different MSL we might have had if yarnc had learnt this kind of ZvP before facing jangbi?
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i would say STX SouL! I could be wrong, but i find them much stronger!
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On December 04 2008 06:35 Barbarne wrote: YEEEEESSSSS!!! AT LAST!
I've been waiting for this for soooooooooooooooo long: The moment when Yarnc wins a ZvP purely by being the better player and not because the P made a lot of mistakes or anything. Yarnc just outplayed him.
After watching the yarnc bisu ZvP I noticed that yarnc definitely had been practicing his one weak MU. But I hardly expected this, a dominating win over one of the three best PvZ:ers in the world.
I think Yarnc suddenly surpassed his brother.
Ps. Imagine what a different MSL we might have had if yarnc had learnt this kind of ZvP before facing jangbi?
Lol like seriously when did this kid learn how to beat a protoss?!?!
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On December 03 2008 22:29 3clipse wrote:Show nested quote +On December 03 2008 17:22 geno wrote:On December 03 2008 16:52 3clipse wrote: Well gg... how is it we manage to beat all the best teams and lose to all the low-tier teams? OGN is not a low tier team lol. They are now ranked higher than STX, in second place just behind Lecaf. They've traditionally been a low-tier team. I guess this wasn't the best example because of their good showing this season, but the rest of STX's matches have been addmitedly odd. We've beaten KHAN, Oz, KTF and lost to MBC and FOX. Ty for the chart. Crazy how volatile things have been. But on that note, it's a bit tough to tell the low-tier from the high-tier at this early stage in the proleague- loads of teams are tied for a spot and 2 consecutive wins or losses could mean huge changes in the rankings. Until things settle down, previous seasons and individual talent can probably tell us more about a team's future than the way the rankings are going right now. Which likely isn't that good for my team. :/ We probably can't hold a high position unless Hwasin comes out of his slump... it's not going to cut it to have only 2 solid proleague options.
Yeah I don't know what you're talking about lol. I'm not even an OGN fan, but that's quite wrong. They've been a top 4/5 finishing team for 2 years now, and before that, they were ranked 6th, hardly low-tier (coincidentally, STX finished in last place that season). Probably the most relevant season, Shinhan Bank 2008 (because its most recent and has the most similar lineup), they finished the season ranked 3rd (which I might add was hailed as STX's breakout season - when they fell short for 4th). OGN is not, and has not been a low-tier team lol.
Anyways, at least STX didn't lose to eSTRO like CJ (who by the way has also beaten Samsung and Lecaf, as well as Woongjin)
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Well, it was pretty close. Both Hwasin and Kal, especially Hwasin, wasted their advantages in their games and ended up losing. It's ok, not the end of the world. But if STX wants to really contend for anything at all, they need Hwasin to pick his pace fast.
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