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StylishVODs
Sweden5331 Posts
On November 24 2008 05:22 Avidkeystamper wrote: Top 5? Hell no. Top 10 there's a chance. His TvZ is very good His TvT is very good His TvP is GOOD! (he lost to bisu but its been vastly improved) imo he should be ranked above Kal Fantasy Calm ForGG Savior and maybe some more who might make it into the 5-10 range of the PR. | ||
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NonConGuy
United States416 Posts
That was really brutal for Jaedong, i like how they just zoomed the camera in on his chin where you see sweat dropping. Jaedong is still #1 zerg though going through a mini mini slump | ||
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Dazed.
Canada3301 Posts
On November 24 2008 06:55 AnOth3rDAy wrote: His TvZ is very good His TvT is very good His TvP is GOOD! (he lost to bisu but its been vastly improved) imo he should be ranked above Kal Fantasy Calm ForGG Savior and maybe some more who might make it into the 5-10 range of the PR. His TvZ is very good His TvT is very good His TvP is TERRIBLE. He won five fucking games in his tvp, and then he got manhandled like a newb. FIVE GAMES DOES NOT A GOOD PLAYER MAKE. NO MATTER HOW MUCH SOMEONE REPEATS IT. | ||
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Fzero
United States1503 Posts
On November 24 2008 06:28 zer0das wrote: Jaedongs response to the BCs was weird... no hydras, and then mass spore his natural? Really? Okkkay...I gues I can kind of see the fact it would take a lot of time to switch to hydra and they aren't all that effective against marines, but if you can't even stop 4 bcs.. Um.. If you didn't notice the entire time his econ was being harassed to the south by FBH's army. It's not like he can take a break and deal with these BCs that are merely harassing his main buildings. He's trying to take out FBH's min only and 3rd while defending his southern two bases and continually pump scourge to take out the vessels that he keeps failing at. I agree he didn't handle the situation that well, but my god he has 400 APM and he was profusely sweating. It isn't like he made the decision to die to BCs.. he was kinda busy. | ||
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Avidkeystamper
United States8552 Posts
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Shikyo
Finland33997 Posts
On November 24 2008 07:32 Dazed_Spy wrote: It's not terrible, open your eyes. He recently beat Kal in TvP that lasted until late game. He just has problems in late game, but otherwise it's fine. His TvZ is very good His TvT is very good His TvP is TERRIBLE. He won five fucking games in his tvp, and then he got manhandled like a newb. FIVE GAMES DOES NOT A GOOD PLAYER MAKE. NO MATTER HOW MUCH SOMEONE REPEATS IT. | ||
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Avidkeystamper
United States8552 Posts
On November 24 2008 08:49 Shikyo wrote: It's not terrible, open your eyes. He recently beat Kal in TvP that lasted until late game. He just has problems in late game, but otherwise it's fine. Yes, that's his only win against a competent protoss that didn't rely on a 2fact push. Did it? I didn't see the game. | ||
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Lebesgue
4542 Posts
Saying that, Jaedong did play well but this time he just got outplayed. That's all. And saying that Jaedong has no variations is just lol... | ||
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koreasilver
9109 Posts
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Sprite
United States1015 Posts
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FakeSteve[TPR]
Valhalla18444 Posts
On November 24 2008 08:49 Shikyo wrote: It's not terrible, open your eyes. He recently beat Kal in TvP that lasted until late game. He just has problems in late game, but otherwise it's fine. Hey now. I'm a huge, HUGE Firebathero fan, but that game was just plain ugly  | ||
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baubo
China3370 Posts
On November 24 2008 07:32 Dazed_Spy wrote: His TvZ is very good His TvT is very good His TvP is TERRIBLE. He won five fucking games in his tvp, and then he got manhandled like a newb. FIVE GAMES DOES NOT A GOOD PLAYER MAKE. NO MATTER HOW MUCH SOMEONE REPEATS IT. Would you put FBH as an underdog against any protoss outside Stork/Bisu/Free/Jangbi and maybe Kal? FBH can beat mid-level tosses no problem now because he's good enough of an overall player to give himself and advantage going into the late game. And then just out-macro the other player. His shit doesn't work against the best tosses, but it's not terrible because it works against everyone else. | ||
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Avidkeystamper
United States8552 Posts
On November 24 2008 13:58 baubo wrote: Would you put FBH as an underdog against any protoss outside Stork/Bisu/Free/Jangbi and maybe Kal? FBH can beat mid-level tosses no problem now because he's good enough of an overall player to give himself and advantage going into the late game. And then just out-macro the other player. His shit doesn't work against the best tosses, but it's not terrible because it works against everyone else. I would put him as an underdog against any decent protoss, your list lacks Best and Pusan. I would put him as an underdog against any protoss on the first page of ELO rankings. Except rock, but including Backho because he's decent PvP PvT. | ||
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NonConGuy
United States416 Posts
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StylishVODs
Sweden5331 Posts
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baubo
China3370 Posts
On November 24 2008 14:06 Avidkeystamper wrote: I would put him as an underdog against any decent protoss, your list lacks Best and Pusan. I would put him as an underdog against any protoss on the first page of ELO rankings. Except rock, but including Backho because he's decent PvP PvT. My mistake for leaving off Best. I'm not sure about Pusan and Anytime though. I think FBH has a 50/50 shot against Pusan and favored against Anytime(mainly due to lack of practice). That's not a long list. Basically, FBH is still screwed in the starleagues because in a Bo3/5 he'll meet a top protoss and get owned. But in the PLs, FBH can still wreck havoc because most of the good tosses are on T1 and his own team. Which is why Lecaf was screwed in the Ace match, as they have no counter to FBH. | ||
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