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On November 24 2008 02:12 coulthard[pR] wrote: Jaedong uses the same opening over and over and over again and thats a fact,as did Savior but as you said they knew what was coming but still they couldnt counter his build. Savior was the real deal.
this is the dumbest thing ever, no offence. Exept the Savior was the real deal. part.
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That was one of the best games of starcraft I've seen in a long time. Ace match too!! Man.. Jaedong is in trouble... did you see his face after that? Very savior-esque.   
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Jaedong has been slumping for a while now, I knew he would lose after his zergling wallin failed with the vulture.
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haha that game was fantastic
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just watched the ace. great game indeed!
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Jaedong threw a lead there. Abit bad from his side, FBH played brilliant though. That + map is abit imbalanced TvZ i dont really think it was that unexpected.
Jaedong still has it imo. Use other map next time though^^
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Lol @ forgg being a robot..his timing is ridiculous..see games vs flash..jaedong (in msl) and recently vs stork game 2.
Oh and for Jaedong fans..the slump starts now...hes powers may be gone..hes gonna have to go back to Fortress of Solitude and beg Jor El to give him his powers back,
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I'd like to think this was the beginning of a new build a la the Fantasy build with valkyries. We never see battlecruisers outside of 40 minute long TvT games. Is there something FBH did that made it so effective, or did JD just completely choke? I don't know how single battlecruisers survived so long and did so much damage when they were in the middle of JD's base and had no protection.
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On November 23 2008 22:21 simcar wrote: Yes , my post was very clueless. But if see play of JD u can see that he is ROBOT. Doing the same thing again and again. That's why he is losing now. When MJY was dominant he played very differently in every game vs protoss,terran. 3 hatch ---> then he could play with 100 tactics. But JD is using same tacktick in every game.Everybody knows how to counter this. See Sangho,Free,Kal ...etc
You wouldn't happen to be fanofbest's alt would you?
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FBH made good use of his BCs, but in general JD played below his standards
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On November 24 2008 04:17 SimonB wrote: I'd like to think this was the beginning of a new build a la the Fantasy build with valkyries. We never see battlecruisers outside of 40 minute long TvT games. Is there something FBH did that made it so effective, or did JD just completely choke? I don't know how single battlecruisers survived so long and did so much damage when they were in the middle of JD's base and had no protection.
I think it's due to the fact that it's hard to flank on this map because of the narrow chokes and corridors everywhere that allows terran to defend more easily than normal.
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FBH used a beautiful opening vs lomo, most people think he just proxied a fact but he timed his gas and rax in a way that it looked like he was 1 fact then take 2 off gas into CC build. Awesome. He deserves PR next month. top 5
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On November 24 2008 05:19 AnOth3rDAy wrote: FBH used a beautiful opening vs lomo, most people think he just proxied a fact but he timed his gas and rax in a way that it looked like he was 1 fact then take 2 off gas into CC build. Awesome. He deserves PR next month. top 5
Top 5? Hell no. Top 10 there's a chance.
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On November 24 2008 05:19 AnOth3rDAy wrote: FBH used a beautiful opening vs lomo, most people think he just proxied a fact but he timed his gas and rax in a way that it looked like he was 1 fact then take 2 off gas into CC build. Awesome. He deserves PR next month. top 5 I agree that he deserves PR, but I think his TvP is still too shaky for top 5.
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Stupid Jaedong, stop pwning my liquibets.
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i cant believe how much idiots are saying jaedong is slumping.... People loose sometimes even JD his play his still amazing and top notch, he barely lost it and was put at a disadvantage early on. GG, jd still has it.
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those were definitely tears mixed in that sweat.
i think jaedong lost the game when he didn't mutaharass the main. he must have thought there were turrents already there but there wasn't. he had like a ten second window to do a lot of damamge to FBH's economy but didn't take advantage of it.
it really does seem unfair that terran has so many options against zerg. zerg really needs to innovate to keep up, though i don't know if there's much room for innovation given zerg's limited units.
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Jaedong's zvz is soooo good. Perfect game from him.
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Jaedongs response to the BCs was weird... no hydras, and then mass spore his natural? Really? Okkkay...I gues I can kind of see the fact it would take a lot of time to switch to hydra and they aren't all that effective against marines, but if you can't even stop 4 bcs..
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Lol, FBH is always making new friends. I felt sorry for JD, but you gotta give FBH that he knows how to win games in style.
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