Estro 3-1? It's surprising to see a match where they actually don't look overmatched. Picking Really, hyvaa, Savior, Sangho. If it goes to ace, Really > I have no clue what's the availability of Iris/Much so I can't guess here.
Since nobody is LRing, I guess I'll do it. Purple is at the top, teal is at the bottom. I'm guessing that purple is estro, and teal is CJ, but I'm not sure. It looks like midgame TvT, with teal using vults, tanks, and goliaths, and purple with vultures, tanks and a wraith.
Both players expanding to the corner locations, purple has his CC up already, but it's out of place because a mine needed to be clared. Teal moving over in the general direction of that, both players seiging up near the middle ridge.
After a bit of a battle, purple lost more tanks than teal, probably because of spider mines. Teal moving along the ridge towards the top corner expo (purp's), Both players starting their fourths. Purple adding a second starport, but still on 2 wraiths.
Vultures try to raid purples expo, but get shut down. Teal has a lot of tanks. Teal almost finished with a science facility, I assume it's purpose is upgrades.
I'm pretty sure teal is starting a fifth at 3:00. Teal moving in at the ridge leading ot purps corner base, destorys defending tanks, forces CC to lift. A few more wraiths out from purple.
Okay, by this point I'm pretty sure that purple is DarkElf, because of the dramatic zoom-in when something bad happens to pruple. Darkelf sniping a couple of tanks with wraiths, but goliaths take out 2 or so. Dropships out for Really
Darkelf has about 4 wraiths, and is killing tanks with them, but really eventually brings in goliaths and makes turrets (this is outside the 10:30 corner expo)
hyvaa pulled drones from gas, sending lings out to kwanro's base. Kwanro has lings, also using drones to defend. Skirmish at the nat, by the morphing hatchery. Kwanro gets the dramatic zoom-in
Kwanro eventually cleaning up hyvaa's lings. Hyvaa has a spire starting, kwanro doesn't even have a lair. Kwanro in serious trouble, just lost his natural hatch
Kwanro did the only thing he could and made a pretty good attack with all his lings killed all but 4 drones. He had no chance though hyvaa had spire up and he had no lair.
lmao at nal ra flipping a shit on that mbc commentator commercial. pretty sure it's from the savior vs tt game... ra is just standing up screaming at the end.
starport starting for upmagic. Spire is done by now though, well ahead of the port. Also, you need an addon to get valks. First mutas out from savior, kill the vulture and move towards up's base. Up has about 4 goliaths.
Up has a bunch of factories, but savior is somehow back in this, because up wasn't ready for a switch to mutas. Up has a valk again though, and he can move out
Up moving in to savior's nat with a lot of goliaths, scourge try to snipe the valk, but don't succeed. Valk kills all mutas, scourge get the valk the second time around. SAVIOR GG'S OUT!!!
god what a horrible night of PL games. CJ gets pulverized 0-3, sAviOr loses, and there isn't even any other games to watch after the quick loss, as MBC wiped the floor with WeMade. Blargh time to sleep ...
On November 19 2008 20:48 Piy wrote: zergs been having alot of trouble against that build lately....won't last.
The fantasy/oov build is really good for RAII, cuz vultures are so powerful and there is no real way to abuse the lack of mobility of the terran mech army. Just don't try and do what Midas did on that map and wall off below your expansion. That was the most retarded thing I've ever seen.
eSTRO IN 10TH PLACE!!! WOOOOOOOOOO00O0O0O0O00O0O0T
On November 20 2008 04:38 littlechava wrote: hm? it's 7-3 tvz so far in proleague O_O
stats are misleading, lots of those games were specialized mech builds or borderline all-ins, really creative stuff. Standard m+m play found on most maps is near impossible so it brings out a unique flavor to it, rather difficult at times too. Some of those zergs that lost we're also pretty mediocre or sub-par in the mu.(mumyung, odin.) Saint fucking up was just LOL.
There's also been a ton of zvzs before all these tvz builds came into play this season, so it probably adds to that idea.
Although it may be possible terrans have finally solved the map out with such builds, but we'll just have to see how it will play out for the rest of the season.
On November 19 2008 20:48 Piy wrote: zergs been having alot of trouble against that build lately....won't last.
yeah, it also has to do a bit with that map. sAviOr on that particular match up really needed to get his natural down faster. He should have just sent out two drones with a few more zerglings and delay the mutasliks a bit. That way if one drone goes down he can still put up the hatch, and the vulture can hit that hatch all day at that point, it wont go down in hp by any significant margin by the time the mutas wipe it out.
Other than that, he could have displayed better decision making and scourge micro. That to me seems to be sAviOr's bigger problems of late, esp with terran matchups.
If you watch his games against free or pretty[gm] his play seems o have sharped up a lot. For, you have games like against TT where he wins but, you know I don't care because he isn't the old savior. Then there may be games like against free, where he may lose over all but encouragingly he is showing that he is starting to play brilliantly again. If he can keep up his GOM form I wouldn't be surprised to see him in the Ro of 16 or 8 in next next OSL or MSL.
Sadly, I'm not sure yet how he is going to destroy everyone in 2009. He has the core mechanics of the game down, but he doesn't have that overall proficiency that players like Jaedong, Bisu, or Flash have. I'm sure I'm not the only sAviOr fan that hopes he proves me wrong.
All I can say is.... fuck! Omg we need to ship Kwanro away. This guy is like the zerg version of Rock. He attacks without thinking, just "attack, attack, attack", and while it might have worked at first, now everyone knows his play and prepares for it, and he keeps bumping his head against the wall like a moron. Let's trade him for a good prospect(Modesty looks nice) or get a new terran for him.
god so awesome that they won this. estro is seriously teh most fun best group of pros. they really have personality unlike most teams. they gave some interviews after the match that were absolutely hillarious.
On November 20 2008 15:51 Artosis wrote: god so awesome that they won this. estro is seriously teh most fun best group of pros. they really have personality unlike most teams. they gave some interviews after the match that were absolutely hillarious.
- Sea.Really likes to sleep with men when he goes to bed haha. I think he likes guys too much and I’m worried. Hyvaa in particular is having a hard time because of it haha.
On November 20 2008 11:11 RamenStyle wrote: All I can say is.... fuck! Omg we need to ship Kwanro away. This guy is like the zerg version of Rock. He attacks without thinking, just "attack, attack, attack", and while it might have worked at first, now everyone knows his play and prepares for it, and he keeps bumping his head against the wall like a moron. Let's trade him for a good prospect(Modesty looks nice) or get a new terran for him.