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Titusmaster6
Profile Blog Joined September 2007
United States5937 Posts
October 02 2008 22:25 GMT
#701
omg what dominance by Ace! *I'm sorry i lost faith on you mumyung *
Shorts down shorts up, BOOM, just like that.
Darkmole
Profile Blog Joined September 2007
United States900 Posts
October 02 2008 23:51 GMT
#702
never underestimate mumyung :D
Felagund
Profile Blog Joined December 2007
Philippines504 Posts
October 03 2008 01:07 GMT
#703
Oh damn Mumyung won!

Watching HIS vods now.
TL CJ Entusman #5 "now she is unarmed, u shall go gather ur army, siege ur tanks and her choke and send some vessels to spot her lurkers, at this time she may have defilers so, if u spot some, unsiege and bring fbs" -Ki_Do
sung_moon
Profile Blog Joined September 2008
United States10110 Posts
Last Edited: 2008-10-03 01:51:17
October 03 2008 01:49 GMT
#704
All hail the Emperor. vods are so worth watching.

EDIT: the interview at the end told me shit i already knew about the Emperor.... slightly disapointing
Forever Young
SilverskY
Profile Joined September 2008
Korea (South)3086 Posts
October 03 2008 01:50 GMT
#705
I think BoxeR has created a new strategy in TVZ. Some weird hybrid 2Rax Valkyrie build lol.
Graphics
Tinithor
Profile Joined February 2008
United States1552 Posts
Last Edited: 2008-10-03 04:10:40
October 03 2008 04:02 GMT
#706
Am i the only one who thought that most of those old games SUCKED?! The original Boxer vs Yellow finals in the OSL were BORING. They play was just poor and the maps sucked. I'm sorry everyone but i enjoy the players of today MUCH more than the older players.

Also Midas made Valkyries work much better and against decent players atleast (Albeit on a mech favored map)

EDIT: BTW that zerg player Boxer faced was downright Noob and i would expect basically ANYONE to beat him.
"Oh-My-GOD" ... "Is many mutas, Yes?"
Hot_Bid
Profile Blog Joined October 2003
Braavos36402 Posts
October 03 2008 04:18 GMT
#707
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TheTyranid
Profile Blog Joined April 2007
Russian Federation4333 Posts
October 03 2008 04:29 GMT
#708
On October 03 2008 13:02 Tinithor wrote:
Am i the only one who thought that most of those old games SUCKED?! The original Boxer vs Yellow finals in the OSL were BORING. They play was just poor and the maps sucked. I'm sorry everyone but i enjoy the players of today MUCH more than the older players.

Also Midas made Valkyries work much better and against decent players atleast (Albeit on a mech favored map)

EDIT: BTW that zerg player Boxer faced was downright Noob and i would expect basically ANYONE to beat him.

Quit SC, quit following progaming.

In fact just go hang yourself.

VIB
Profile Blog Joined November 2007
Brazil3567 Posts
October 03 2008 04:37 GMT
#709
What exactly did Baxter say when he gg? Susie said he said gg "in the most respectful manner" and I noticed he typed 3 characters instead of one. What was it exactly the difference?
Great people talk about ideas. Average people talk about things. Small people talk about other people.
Integra
Profile Blog Joined January 2008
Sweden5626 Posts
Last Edited: 2008-10-03 10:35:28
October 03 2008 10:33 GMT
#710
On October 03 2008 13:37 VIB wrote:
What exactly did Baxter say when he gg? Susie said he said gg "in the most respectful manner" and I noticed he typed 3 characters instead of one. What was it exactly the difference?


Probably something like "GG, I've wasted your time by pretending to be a good player, I never deserved to play against you and I will kill myself as soon as I get off the stage, by killing myself I'm hoping that you will forgive me."
"Dark Pleasure" | | I survived the Locust war of May 3, 2014
IMlemon
Profile Blog Joined May 2008
Lithuania296 Posts
October 03 2008 14:31 GMT
#711
On October 03 2008 01:07 BlackStar wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 03 2008 00:58 damenmofa wrote:
am i the only one who doesnt think those were the "good days of starcraft" but rather the beginning?
I mean who prefers watching soccer or basketball matches from 50 years ago compared to now?


Many people do. The pace in football(soccer for US and Australians) was much slower. You had all the time in the world compared to now to do some 'brilliant things'.

And I hear tons of people complain that football nowadays is boring. It's too tactica, it's too much about power play, the stakes are too high to take any risk, etc.

Obviously, you aren't the only one. I think it's kind of silly to claim that low level play is better than high level play. If the game gets too boring you need to change the rules. And in the case of football, it really has major major rules problems anyway.

And it's like Daniel Lee says, most people don't get to appriciate the high level of play since they are unaware like it.


It's not that Starcraft has the same crisis chess has. It's more limited than chess, for sure. But it doesn't have the problem that high level play removes creativity and turns everything into preprogrammed robot play.


Oh boy, the chess part is such a bullshit I can't even believe it. Chess? Robot play? Non creative? Seriously, how ignorant you have to be to talk such rubbish?.. Thats the typical view of nooby player whom has just learnt the moves and thinks the whole games is "who blunders first". Same as thinking SC is all about "whom is the fastest". Please shut up if you haven't got a slightest idea what you're talking about.

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I enjoyed the games. I was like WTF boxer is doing, he's going to lose BAAADLY in the first game, when mutalisks killed like 15 SCVS. He won, somehow. I'll just blame baxter, must have been really nervous .
My future's so bright, I gotta wear shades.
SilverSkyLark
Profile Blog Joined April 2008
Philippines8437 Posts
October 03 2008 16:02 GMT
#712
On October 03 2008 23:31 IMlemon wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 03 2008 01:07 BlackStar wrote:
On October 03 2008 00:58 damenmofa wrote:
am i the only one who doesnt think those were the "good days of starcraft" but rather the beginning?
I mean who prefers watching soccer or basketball matches from 50 years ago compared to now?


Many people do. The pace in football(soccer for US and Australians) was much slower. You had all the time in the world compared to now to do some 'brilliant things'.

And I hear tons of people complain that football nowadays is boring. It's too tactica, it's too much about power play, the stakes are too high to take any risk, etc.

Obviously, you aren't the only one. I think it's kind of silly to claim that low level play is better than high level play. If the game gets too boring you need to change the rules. And in the case of football, it really has major major rules problems anyway.

And it's like Daniel Lee says, most people don't get to appriciate the high level of play since they are unaware like it.


It's not that Starcraft has the same crisis chess has. It's more limited than chess, for sure. But it doesn't have the problem that high level play removes creativity and turns everything into preprogrammed robot play.


Oh boy, the chess part is such a bullshit I can't even believe it. Chess? Robot play? Non creative? Seriously, how ignorant you have to be to talk such rubbish?.. Thats the typical view of nooby player whom has just learnt the moves and thinks the whole games is "who blunders first". Same as thinking SC is all about "whom is the fastest". Please shut up if you haven't got a slightest idea what you're talking about.

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I enjoyed the games. I was like WTF boxer is doing, he's going to lose BAAADLY in the first game, when mutalisks killed like 15 SCVS. He won, somehow. I'll just blame baxter, must have been really nervous .


I think what BlackStar wanted to say is that StarCraft is all about execution. Pimpest Play is a good way to back this up, the quality of the pimpest play has decreased as StarCraft was all about execution of moves while adapting to the build of your opponent.

I've also played Chess and I feel the same, I remember my Seniors during high school in Chess varsity, they play standard openings, like there are pre-made moves to be done. Chess has been explored already and it just boils down to who made the better opening and who has the better midgame.
"If i lost an arm, I would play w3." -IntoTheWow || "Member of Hyuk Hyuk Hyuk cafe. He's the next Jaedong, baby!"
IMlemon
Profile Blog Joined May 2008
Lithuania296 Posts
October 03 2008 16:13 GMT
#713
I feel like bashing a wall with my head. Obviously openings are vital - but unless you're top 100, the value of opening is pretty damn low unless you spend thousands upon thousands of hours studying opening theory - and that time would be much better spent analysing. Most casual tournament players (1800-2000 ELO) just know some general plans and guidelines, maybe 10 moves of the mainline which no one follows anyways except top players . Midgame comment... what can you say to that. You're basically saying who's playing better will win.

Again, this is typical comment from someone who has just barely touched the basics of chess. And thats quite sad too, because to appreciate the beauty and complexity of chess you must be very, very good. Thats why chess isn't and never was a good spectator sport, which is a damn shame .


Sorry for hijacking this thread, im not going to post any more chess-y comments here. If you want to discuss about chess PM me or hit me up on MSN (lemon@freemail.lt)
My future's so bright, I gotta wear shades.
Mastermind
Profile Blog Joined April 2008
Canada7096 Posts
October 03 2008 16:16 GMT
#714
On October 03 2008 13:02 Tinithor wrote:
Am i the only one who thought that most of those old games SUCKED?! The original Boxer vs Yellow finals in the OSL were BORING. They play was just poor and the maps sucked. I'm sorry everyone but i enjoy the players of today MUCH more than the older players.

Also Midas made Valkyries work much better and against decent players atleast (Albeit on a mech favored map)

EDIT: BTW that zerg player Boxer faced was downright Noob and i would expect basically ANYONE to beat him.

You dont get it. We arent all excited becasue Boxer played the best game of his life, or that he had incredible unit control, or took down a really good progamer or anything like that. What was exciting about those games was the creative strategy that he used. I dont know how you can be a fan of progaming and not have found those two games to be the most exciting gmaes of the year.
SilverSkyLark
Profile Blog Joined April 2008
Philippines8437 Posts
October 03 2008 16:17 GMT
#715
On October 03 2008 10:49 sung_moon wrote:
All hail the Emperor. vods are so worth watching.

EDIT: the interview at the end told me shit i already knew about the Emperor.... slightly disapointing

Yea, it wasn't susie's fault for those questions....she was just asked to ask them, and I bet the guy who wrote those question doesn't have the slightest idea who boxer is.
"If i lost an arm, I would play w3." -IntoTheWow || "Member of Hyuk Hyuk Hyuk cafe. He's the next Jaedong, baby!"
SilverSkyLark
Profile Blog Joined April 2008
Philippines8437 Posts
October 03 2008 16:25 GMT
#716
On October 04 2008 01:13 IMlemon wrote:
Again, this is typical comment from someone who has just barely touched the basics of chess. And thats quite sad too, because to appreciate the beauty and complexity of chess you must be very, very good. Thats why chess isn't and never was a good spectator sport, which is a damn shame .


This is so true, I remember my friend commenting once "why did you do that move?" and see the results a few moves later. Anyway, its a lot same with StarCraft, I remember watching a game once and my friend said "Oh my God! They got tanks already! If I was there I could have just been massing infantry." Those comments are forgivable since they don't know StarCraft as much as most of us would do.

This conversation about beauty of StarCraft and other stuff can be way long, but I think we would all agree that one will understand StarCraft when that person knows a lot about that sport.



Oh damn, I lost faith in Mummyung, cuz his last match was against rA and he got killed bad, and I think rA used to teach Violet or some other Protoss in KTF so I thought that person would have picked up stuff before rA became a commentator....oh well.
"If i lost an arm, I would play w3." -IntoTheWow || "Member of Hyuk Hyuk Hyuk cafe. He's the next Jaedong, baby!"
jgad
Profile Blog Joined March 2008
Canada899 Posts
October 03 2008 16:49 GMT
#717
On October 02 2008 17:56 damenmofa wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 02 2008 17:52 maareek wrote:
After those two games, Boxer has won this league. I don't care who gets the prize money, or who comes in first. Boxer just owned this league, and probably this year. My god that was amazing.

u are overdoing it a bit. it sure was epic to watch these games but bear in mind why the progaming scene has become what it is. HE sure wont be able to pull that stuff on a competent player, let alone one of the current top 20.


Maybe, but it was brilliant stratgy nevertheless. It's only the Ro128, so since he can get away with random crazy builds it makes sense that he should. It achieves two things - first, it confuses the hell out of anyone who has to play him in future rounds and, second, it allows him to not give away any other strategies he may be working on. The next matchup will be chaos - who would know what to expect after that? Mind games...
콩까지마
Loveletter
Profile Joined November 2006
United States543 Posts
October 03 2008 17:12 GMT
#718
The games with Boxer and his 1 base builds reminding me so much of the games back then. It was nice to see but its very apparent he doesn't have the control and mechanics like he used to! But I am sure he will get back up to par when he plays again and the questions that were asked were sooo... Bad. Lol most of those things I had already known if you are a true boxer fan you would have already known them. Especially the questions about why he picked Terran and why he choose his ID. Nonetheless games were fun to watch and Baxter got dominated.
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RoieTRS
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
United States2569 Posts
October 03 2008 17:30 GMT
#719
TL needs to make their own RTS. We seem to know the most when it comes to how 'spectator sport'-ish a game is.

Not sarcastic btw.
konadora, in Racenilatr's blog: "you need to stop thinking about starcraft or anything computer-related for that matter. It's becoming a bad addiction imo"
Loveletter
Profile Joined November 2006
United States543 Posts
October 03 2008 17:32 GMT
#720
So why in the world would we make a game. I don't get it.
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