• Log InLog In
  • Register
Liquid`
Team Liquid Liquipedia
EDT 16:57
CEST 22:57
KST 05:57
  • Home
  • Forum
  • Calendar
  • Streams
  • Liquipedia
  • Features
  • Store
  • EPT
  • TL+
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Smash
  • Heroes
  • Counter-Strike
  • Overwatch
  • Liquibet
  • Fantasy StarCraft
  • TLPD
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Blogs
Forum Sidebar
Events/Features
News
Featured News
Team Liquid Map Contest #22: Results and Winners6Code S Season 2 (2026): RO4 and Finals Preview12TL.net Map Contest #22 - Voting & Ladder Map Selection7Code S Season 2 (2026) - RO8 Preview5[ASL21] Finals Preview: Two Legacies21
Community News
Douyu Cup 2026: $20,000 Legends Event (June 26-28)5[BSL22] Non-Korean Championship from 13 to 28 June2Weekly Cups (May 25-31): Clem doubles, 2v2 circuit heads toward finale0StarCraft II 5.0.16 PTR Patch Notes may 26th152Weekly Cups (May 18-24): MaxPax wins doubles0
StarCraft 2
General
Team Liquid Map Contest #22: Results and Winners StarCraft II 5.0.16 PTR Patch Notes may 26th TL Poll: How do you feel about the 5.0.16 PTR balance changes? TL.net Map Contest #22 - Voting & Ladder Map Selection Oliveira Would Have Returned If EWC Continued
Tourneys
Maestros of The Game 2 announcement and schedule ! Sea Duckling Open (Global, Bronze-Diamond) Douyu Cup 2026: $20,000 Legends Event (June 26-28) GSL Code S Season 2 (2026) Sparkling Tuna Cup - Weekly Open Tournament
Strategy
[G] Having the right mentality to improve
Custom Maps
[D]RTS in all its shapes and glory <3
External Content
The PondCast: SC2 News & Results Mutation # 529 Opportunities Unleashed Mutation # 528 Infection Detected Welcome to the External Content forum
Brood War
General
The Korean Terminology Thread Data needed Quality of life changes in BW that you will like ? BGH Auto Balance -> http://bghmmr.eu/ BW fans in southern Sweden, look here!
Tourneys
[ASL21] Grand Finals [BSL22] Grand Finals - Sunday 21:00 CEST [Megathread] Daily Proleagues Escore Tournament StarCraft Season 2
Strategy
Why doesn't anyone use restoration? Any training maps people recommend? Muta micro map competition [G] Hydra ZvZ: An Introduction
Other Games
General Games
Stormgate/Frost Giant Megathread Nintendo Switch Thread PC Games Sales Thread ZeroSpace Megathread Summer Games Done Quick 2026!
Dota 2
Looking for a Dota Mentor Official 'what is Dota anymore' discussion
League of Legends
Heroes of the Storm
Simple Questions, Simple Answers Heroes of the Storm 2.0
Hearthstone
Deck construction bug Heroes of StarCraft mini-set
TL Mafia
Vanilla Mini Mafia
Community
General
US Politics Mega-thread Russo-Ukrainian War Thread Trading/Investing Thread Canadian Politics Mega-thread Things Aren’t Peaceful in Palestine
Fan Clubs
The herO Fan Club!
Media & Entertainment
Movie Discussion! [Req][Books] Good Fantasy/SciFi books [TV/BOOK] *SPOILERS* Game of Thrones Discussion [Manga] One Piece
Sports
Cricket [SPORT] TeamLiquid Health and Fitness Initiative For 2023 2024 - 2026 Football Thread NBA General Discussion McBoner: A hockey love story
World Cup 2022
Tech Support
Computer Build, Upgrade & Buying Resource Thread Facing Challenges in Mobile App Development
TL Community
The Automated Ban List
Blogs
How Streaming Impacts Game P…
TrAiDoS
An Exploration of th…
waywardstrategy
I'm an arrogant trash talke…
FlaShFTW
Gauntlet SC2: A Retrospectiv…
Ctone23
Why RTS gamers make better f…
gosubay
ASL S21 English Commentary…
namkraft
Customize Sidebar...

Website Feedback

Closed Threads



Active: 6923 users

[GOM] TG-Intel Classic Season 2 Day 4 - Page 36

Forum Index > Brood War Tournaments
Post a Reply
Prev 1 34 35 36 37 Next All
Titusmaster6
Profile Blog Joined September 2007
United States5937 Posts
October 02 2008 22:25 GMT
#701
omg what dominance by Ace! *I'm sorry i lost faith on you mumyung *
Shorts down shorts up, BOOM, just like that.
Darkmole
Profile Blog Joined September 2007
United States900 Posts
October 02 2008 23:51 GMT
#702
never underestimate mumyung :D
Felagund
Profile Blog Joined December 2007
Philippines504 Posts
October 03 2008 01:07 GMT
#703
Oh damn Mumyung won!

Watching HIS vods now.
TL CJ Entusman #5 "now she is unarmed, u shall go gather ur army, siege ur tanks and her choke and send some vessels to spot her lurkers, at this time she may have defilers so, if u spot some, unsiege and bring fbs" -Ki_Do
sung_moon
Profile Blog Joined September 2008
United States10110 Posts
Last Edited: 2008-10-03 01:51:17
October 03 2008 01:49 GMT
#704
All hail the Emperor. vods are so worth watching.

EDIT: the interview at the end told me shit i already knew about the Emperor.... slightly disapointing
Forever Young
SilverskY
Profile Joined September 2008
Korea (South)3086 Posts
October 03 2008 01:50 GMT
#705
I think BoxeR has created a new strategy in TVZ. Some weird hybrid 2Rax Valkyrie build lol.
Graphics
Tinithor
Profile Joined February 2008
United States1552 Posts
Last Edited: 2008-10-03 04:10:40
October 03 2008 04:02 GMT
#706
Am i the only one who thought that most of those old games SUCKED?! The original Boxer vs Yellow finals in the OSL were BORING. They play was just poor and the maps sucked. I'm sorry everyone but i enjoy the players of today MUCH more than the older players.

Also Midas made Valkyries work much better and against decent players atleast (Albeit on a mech favored map)

EDIT: BTW that zerg player Boxer faced was downright Noob and i would expect basically ANYONE to beat him.
"Oh-My-GOD" ... "Is many mutas, Yes?"
Hot_Bid
Profile Blog Joined October 2003
Braavos36401 Posts
October 03 2008 04:18 GMT
#707
[image loading]
@Hot_Bid on Twitter - ESPORTS life since 2010 - http://i.imgur.com/U2psw.png
TheTyranid
Profile Blog Joined April 2007
Russian Federation4333 Posts
October 03 2008 04:29 GMT
#708
On October 03 2008 13:02 Tinithor wrote:
Am i the only one who thought that most of those old games SUCKED?! The original Boxer vs Yellow finals in the OSL were BORING. They play was just poor and the maps sucked. I'm sorry everyone but i enjoy the players of today MUCH more than the older players.

Also Midas made Valkyries work much better and against decent players atleast (Albeit on a mech favored map)

EDIT: BTW that zerg player Boxer faced was downright Noob and i would expect basically ANYONE to beat him.

Quit SC, quit following progaming.

In fact just go hang yourself.

VIB
Profile Blog Joined November 2007
Brazil3567 Posts
October 03 2008 04:37 GMT
#709
What exactly did Baxter say when he gg? Susie said he said gg "in the most respectful manner" and I noticed he typed 3 characters instead of one. What was it exactly the difference?
Great people talk about ideas. Average people talk about things. Small people talk about other people.
Integra
Profile Blog Joined January 2008
Sweden5626 Posts
Last Edited: 2008-10-03 10:35:28
October 03 2008 10:33 GMT
#710
On October 03 2008 13:37 VIB wrote:
What exactly did Baxter say when he gg? Susie said he said gg "in the most respectful manner" and I noticed he typed 3 characters instead of one. What was it exactly the difference?


Probably something like "GG, I've wasted your time by pretending to be a good player, I never deserved to play against you and I will kill myself as soon as I get off the stage, by killing myself I'm hoping that you will forgive me."
"Dark Pleasure" | | I survived the Locust war of May 3, 2014
IMlemon
Profile Blog Joined May 2008
Lithuania296 Posts
October 03 2008 14:31 GMT
#711
On October 03 2008 01:07 BlackStar wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 03 2008 00:58 damenmofa wrote:
am i the only one who doesnt think those were the "good days of starcraft" but rather the beginning?
I mean who prefers watching soccer or basketball matches from 50 years ago compared to now?


Many people do. The pace in football(soccer for US and Australians) was much slower. You had all the time in the world compared to now to do some 'brilliant things'.

And I hear tons of people complain that football nowadays is boring. It's too tactica, it's too much about power play, the stakes are too high to take any risk, etc.

Obviously, you aren't the only one. I think it's kind of silly to claim that low level play is better than high level play. If the game gets too boring you need to change the rules. And in the case of football, it really has major major rules problems anyway.

And it's like Daniel Lee says, most people don't get to appriciate the high level of play since they are unaware like it.


It's not that Starcraft has the same crisis chess has. It's more limited than chess, for sure. But it doesn't have the problem that high level play removes creativity and turns everything into preprogrammed robot play.


Oh boy, the chess part is such a bullshit I can't even believe it. Chess? Robot play? Non creative? Seriously, how ignorant you have to be to talk such rubbish?.. Thats the typical view of nooby player whom has just learnt the moves and thinks the whole games is "who blunders first". Same as thinking SC is all about "whom is the fastest". Please shut up if you haven't got a slightest idea what you're talking about.

---------------------------
I enjoyed the games. I was like WTF boxer is doing, he's going to lose BAAADLY in the first game, when mutalisks killed like 15 SCVS. He won, somehow. I'll just blame baxter, must have been really nervous .
My future's so bright, I gotta wear shades.
SilverSkyLark
Profile Blog Joined April 2008
Philippines8437 Posts
October 03 2008 16:02 GMT
#712
On October 03 2008 23:31 IMlemon wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 03 2008 01:07 BlackStar wrote:
On October 03 2008 00:58 damenmofa wrote:
am i the only one who doesnt think those were the "good days of starcraft" but rather the beginning?
I mean who prefers watching soccer or basketball matches from 50 years ago compared to now?


Many people do. The pace in football(soccer for US and Australians) was much slower. You had all the time in the world compared to now to do some 'brilliant things'.

And I hear tons of people complain that football nowadays is boring. It's too tactica, it's too much about power play, the stakes are too high to take any risk, etc.

Obviously, you aren't the only one. I think it's kind of silly to claim that low level play is better than high level play. If the game gets too boring you need to change the rules. And in the case of football, it really has major major rules problems anyway.

And it's like Daniel Lee says, most people don't get to appriciate the high level of play since they are unaware like it.


It's not that Starcraft has the same crisis chess has. It's more limited than chess, for sure. But it doesn't have the problem that high level play removes creativity and turns everything into preprogrammed robot play.


Oh boy, the chess part is such a bullshit I can't even believe it. Chess? Robot play? Non creative? Seriously, how ignorant you have to be to talk such rubbish?.. Thats the typical view of nooby player whom has just learnt the moves and thinks the whole games is "who blunders first". Same as thinking SC is all about "whom is the fastest". Please shut up if you haven't got a slightest idea what you're talking about.

---------------------------
I enjoyed the games. I was like WTF boxer is doing, he's going to lose BAAADLY in the first game, when mutalisks killed like 15 SCVS. He won, somehow. I'll just blame baxter, must have been really nervous .


I think what BlackStar wanted to say is that StarCraft is all about execution. Pimpest Play is a good way to back this up, the quality of the pimpest play has decreased as StarCraft was all about execution of moves while adapting to the build of your opponent.

I've also played Chess and I feel the same, I remember my Seniors during high school in Chess varsity, they play standard openings, like there are pre-made moves to be done. Chess has been explored already and it just boils down to who made the better opening and who has the better midgame.
"If i lost an arm, I would play w3." -IntoTheWow || "Member of Hyuk Hyuk Hyuk cafe. He's the next Jaedong, baby!"
IMlemon
Profile Blog Joined May 2008
Lithuania296 Posts
October 03 2008 16:13 GMT
#713
I feel like bashing a wall with my head. Obviously openings are vital - but unless you're top 100, the value of opening is pretty damn low unless you spend thousands upon thousands of hours studying opening theory - and that time would be much better spent analysing. Most casual tournament players (1800-2000 ELO) just know some general plans and guidelines, maybe 10 moves of the mainline which no one follows anyways except top players . Midgame comment... what can you say to that. You're basically saying who's playing better will win.

Again, this is typical comment from someone who has just barely touched the basics of chess. And thats quite sad too, because to appreciate the beauty and complexity of chess you must be very, very good. Thats why chess isn't and never was a good spectator sport, which is a damn shame .


Sorry for hijacking this thread, im not going to post any more chess-y comments here. If you want to discuss about chess PM me or hit me up on MSN (lemon@freemail.lt)
My future's so bright, I gotta wear shades.
Mastermind
Profile Blog Joined April 2008
Canada7096 Posts
October 03 2008 16:16 GMT
#714
On October 03 2008 13:02 Tinithor wrote:
Am i the only one who thought that most of those old games SUCKED?! The original Boxer vs Yellow finals in the OSL were BORING. They play was just poor and the maps sucked. I'm sorry everyone but i enjoy the players of today MUCH more than the older players.

Also Midas made Valkyries work much better and against decent players atleast (Albeit on a mech favored map)

EDIT: BTW that zerg player Boxer faced was downright Noob and i would expect basically ANYONE to beat him.

You dont get it. We arent all excited becasue Boxer played the best game of his life, or that he had incredible unit control, or took down a really good progamer or anything like that. What was exciting about those games was the creative strategy that he used. I dont know how you can be a fan of progaming and not have found those two games to be the most exciting gmaes of the year.
SilverSkyLark
Profile Blog Joined April 2008
Philippines8437 Posts
October 03 2008 16:17 GMT
#715
On October 03 2008 10:49 sung_moon wrote:
All hail the Emperor. vods are so worth watching.

EDIT: the interview at the end told me shit i already knew about the Emperor.... slightly disapointing

Yea, it wasn't susie's fault for those questions....she was just asked to ask them, and I bet the guy who wrote those question doesn't have the slightest idea who boxer is.
"If i lost an arm, I would play w3." -IntoTheWow || "Member of Hyuk Hyuk Hyuk cafe. He's the next Jaedong, baby!"
SilverSkyLark
Profile Blog Joined April 2008
Philippines8437 Posts
October 03 2008 16:25 GMT
#716
On October 04 2008 01:13 IMlemon wrote:
Again, this is typical comment from someone who has just barely touched the basics of chess. And thats quite sad too, because to appreciate the beauty and complexity of chess you must be very, very good. Thats why chess isn't and never was a good spectator sport, which is a damn shame .


This is so true, I remember my friend commenting once "why did you do that move?" and see the results a few moves later. Anyway, its a lot same with StarCraft, I remember watching a game once and my friend said "Oh my God! They got tanks already! If I was there I could have just been massing infantry." Those comments are forgivable since they don't know StarCraft as much as most of us would do.

This conversation about beauty of StarCraft and other stuff can be way long, but I think we would all agree that one will understand StarCraft when that person knows a lot about that sport.



Oh damn, I lost faith in Mummyung, cuz his last match was against rA and he got killed bad, and I think rA used to teach Violet or some other Protoss in KTF so I thought that person would have picked up stuff before rA became a commentator....oh well.
"If i lost an arm, I would play w3." -IntoTheWow || "Member of Hyuk Hyuk Hyuk cafe. He's the next Jaedong, baby!"
jgad
Profile Blog Joined March 2008
Canada899 Posts
October 03 2008 16:49 GMT
#717
On October 02 2008 17:56 damenmofa wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 02 2008 17:52 maareek wrote:
After those two games, Boxer has won this league. I don't care who gets the prize money, or who comes in first. Boxer just owned this league, and probably this year. My god that was amazing.

u are overdoing it a bit. it sure was epic to watch these games but bear in mind why the progaming scene has become what it is. HE sure wont be able to pull that stuff on a competent player, let alone one of the current top 20.


Maybe, but it was brilliant stratgy nevertheless. It's only the Ro128, so since he can get away with random crazy builds it makes sense that he should. It achieves two things - first, it confuses the hell out of anyone who has to play him in future rounds and, second, it allows him to not give away any other strategies he may be working on. The next matchup will be chaos - who would know what to expect after that? Mind games...
콩까지마
Loveletter
Profile Joined November 2006
United States543 Posts
October 03 2008 17:12 GMT
#718
The games with Boxer and his 1 base builds reminding me so much of the games back then. It was nice to see but its very apparent he doesn't have the control and mechanics like he used to! But I am sure he will get back up to par when he plays again and the questions that were asked were sooo... Bad. Lol most of those things I had already known if you are a true boxer fan you would have already known them. Especially the questions about why he picked Terran and why he choose his ID. Nonetheless games were fun to watch and Baxter got dominated.
DotA 2 - peteyyytran/IRONBRAH add me for inhouse games/pub games
RoieTRS
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
United States2569 Posts
October 03 2008 17:30 GMT
#719
TL needs to make their own RTS. We seem to know the most when it comes to how 'spectator sport'-ish a game is.

Not sarcastic btw.
konadora, in Racenilatr's blog: "you need to stop thinking about starcraft or anything computer-related for that matter. It's becoming a bad addiction imo"
Loveletter
Profile Joined November 2006
United States543 Posts
October 03 2008 17:32 GMT
#720
So why in the world would we make a game. I don't get it.
DotA 2 - peteyyytran/IRONBRAH add me for inhouse games/pub games
Prev 1 34 35 36 37 Next All
Please log in or register to reply.
Live Events Refresh
Next event in 3h 3m
[ Submit Event ]
Live Streams
Refresh
StarCraft 2
elazer 387
JuggernautJason99
ProTech86
StarCraft: Brood War
Sea 1422
Dewaltoss 7
NaDa 6
Dota 2
capcasts96
NeuroSwarm21
League of Legends
Doublelift2493
Other Games
summit1g7464
Grubby4748
singsing1665
shahzam482
FrodaN432
C9.Mang0289
crisheroes231
Liquid`Hasu214
Livibee79
ZombieGrub63
UpATreeSC58
byalli35
ViBE25
Tefel17
MindelVK5
KnowMe4
Organizations
Other Games
BasetradeTV182
StarCraft 2
Blizzard YouTube
StarCraft: Brood War
BSLTrovo
[ Show 16 non-featured ]
StarCraft 2
• AfreecaTV YouTube
• intothetv
• Kozan
• IndyKCrew
• LaughNgamezSOOP
• Migwel
• sooper7s
StarCraft: Brood War
• 80smullet 41
• Michael_bg 13
• BSLYoutube
• STPLYoutube
• ZZZeroYoutube
League of Legends
• TFBlade950
Counter-Strike
• imaqtpie1084
• Shiphtur204
Other Games
• WagamamaTV531
Upcoming Events
Replay Cast
3h 3m
CranKy Ducklings
13h 3m
uThermal 2v2 Circuit
18h 3m
BSL22 NKC (BSL vs China)
22h 3m
eOnzErG vs Mihu
Messiah vs XuanXuan
Jaystar vs TerrOr
Dewalt vs Bonyth
eOnzErG vs XuanXuan
Mihu vs TerrOr
Messiah vs Bonyth
Sparkling Tuna Cup
1d 13h
uThermal 2v2 Circuit
1d 18h
BSL22 NKC (BSL vs China)
1d 22h
Jaystar vs Dewalt
eOnzErG vs TerrOr
XuanXuan vs Bonyth
Mihu vs Dewalt
Messiah vs Jaystar
eOnzErG vs Bonyth
TerrOr vs Dewalt
Wardi Open
2 days
OSC
3 days
Replay Cast
4 days
[ Show More ]
The PondCast
5 days
Replay Cast
6 days
OSC
6 days
CranKy Ducklings
6 days
Liquipedia Results

Completed

BSL Season 22
2026 GSL S2
Heroes Pulsing #1

Ongoing

IPSL Spring 2026
KCM Race Survival 2026 Season 2
Acropolis #4
CSCL: Masked Kings S4
YSL S3
Acropolis #4 - GSB
SCTL 2026 Spring
Maestros of the Game 2
WardiTV Spring 2026
uThermal 2v2 2026 Main Event
Murky Cup 2026
Heroes Pulsing #2
IEM Cologne Major 2026
Stake Ranked Episode 2
CS Asia Championships 2026
Asian Champions League 2026
IEM Atlanta 2026
PGL Astana 2026
BLAST Rivals Spring 2026
IEM Rio 2026
PGL Bucharest 2026
Stake Ranked Episode 1

Upcoming

BSL 22 Non-Korean Championship
CSLAN 4
Blizzard Classic Cup 2026
Kung Fu Cup 2026 Grand Finals
CranK Gathers Season 4: BW vs SC2 Team League
HSC XXIX
Douyu Cup 2026
Heroes Pulsing #3
Esports World Cup 2026
BLAST Bounty Summer 2026
BLAST Bounty Summer Qual
Stake Ranked Episode 3
XSE Pro League 2026
TLPD

1. ByuN
2. TY
3. Dark
4. Solar
5. Stats
6. Nerchio
7. sOs
8. soO
9. INnoVation
10. Elazer
1. Rain
2. Flash
3. EffOrt
4. Last
5. Bisu
6. Soulkey
7. Mini
8. Sharp
Sidebar Settings...

Advertising | Privacy Policy | Terms Of Use | Contact Us

Original banner artwork: Jim Warren
The contents of this webpage are copyright © 2026 TLnet. All Rights Reserved.