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Belgium6774 Posts
On May 06 2008 05:50 HamerD wrote: Seriously though, why IS savior so much worse than he was like a couple years ago? I mean it's not like he's incredibly old and his body is frail and beyond use. Has his mind decreased in capacity? Has he become completely mentally impotent?
Combination of different factors such as decrease in determination (its hard to keep that up for such a long time), his entire style having been completely analyzed and countered, his lack of self-esteem because of recent performances etc. Its only a natural that a dominant player loses his #1 spot after a certain period of time. I dont think there should be any regret anyway, Savior did a damn fine job of holding it.
Also, what game is that gif from?
lol
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On May 06 2008 05:50 HamerD wrote: Seriously though, why IS savior so much worse than he was like a couple years ago? I mean it's not like he's incredibly old and his body is frail and beyond use. Has his mind decreased in capacity? Has he become completely mentally impotent?
What makes you think he got worse.
People adapt to styles and people get better while savior just peaked at a certain level and got surpassed. Also maps might play a big factor.
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I want savior to win, but I dont think its going to happen
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Lol, what was up with the little talk in the end, though? It was as if he were saying, "I was just joking dude, really, good game. Just for the fans, I hope you understand" *nods*
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FBH will force Savior into retirement.
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ehehe this thread is going to get +1000 posts. the games haven't started and it got about 150 posts already
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its always nice to see pros celebrating like FBH, but its even nice to see these players getting smashed and being provoked
edit: sorry double post
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United States3705 Posts
On May 06 2008 07:25 BlackStar wrote: FBH will force Savior into retirement.
other way around please
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On May 06 2008 06:15 Frits wrote:Show nested quote +On May 06 2008 05:50 HamerD wrote: Seriously though, why IS savior so much worse than he was like a couple years ago? I mean it's not like he's incredibly old and his body is frail and beyond use. Has his mind decreased in capacity? Has he become completely mentally impotent?
What makes you think he got worse. People adapt to styles and people get better while savior just peaked at a certain level and got surpassed. Also maps might play a big factor. Hm i disagree. Although styles have changed and new faces showed up on the pro scene, Savior is definitely NOT just outplayed by todays pros. On top of the stiffer competition, his play is definitely way off. He is in a huge slump and anybody who thinks its just the opponents getting better is at complete disrespect of his unbelievable skill back in the days or just simply blind. Savior nowadays is a mere shadow of his former self.
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On May 06 2008 09:38 diehilde wrote:Show nested quote +On May 06 2008 06:15 Frits wrote:On May 06 2008 05:50 HamerD wrote: Seriously though, why IS savior so much worse than he was like a couple years ago? I mean it's not like he's incredibly old and his body is frail and beyond use. Has his mind decreased in capacity? Has he become completely mentally impotent?
What makes you think he got worse. People adapt to styles and people get better while savior just peaked at a certain level and got surpassed. Also maps might play a big factor. Hm i disagree. Although styles have changed and new faces showed up on the pro scene, Savior is definitely NOT just outplayed by todays pros. On top of the stiffer competition, his play is definitely way off. He is in a huge slump and anybody who thinks its just the opponents getting better is at complete disrespect of his unbelievable skill back in the days or just simply blind. Savior nowadays is a mere shadow of his former self.
Can't agree more, for those who think sAviOr is as good as his former self. Please just look for some of the old games he played and compare it to his recent games and you will be like, comon, who am i kidding?
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Hahahaha. My favorite part of all this is that the title of this thread is still FBH vs Savior as opposed to CJ vs Samsung.
In any case, I hope we see Savior vs FBH Ace match.
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United States1865 Posts
sAviOr's play was adapted to, sure -- but diehilde and yoofor are absolutely correct in saying that he is also just playing significantly worse. Look at player's like NaDa who are from an even earlier time than sAviOr who are still playing very well and qualifying for leagues -- the same NaDa who sAviOr crushed 3-1 in Shinhan OSL finals back in his prime.
I honestly think it boils down to him not practicing nearly as much anymore. I remember there was a quote by Sonic)Black in one of the sAviOr hype threads that said "sAviOr practices more/harder than any other player I've ever seen" back from when sAviOr was coming up. I cant see him spending the same amount of time as before, and thats why hes slumping. (Not to mention hes a very psychological player and being known as the "slumping former champion who loses to anyone lately" doesnt really boost his confidence to get out that slump.
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I want FBH to win so we can see a stellar victory ceremony.
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On May 06 2008 11:32 Showtime! wrote: I want FBH to win so we can see a stellar victory ceremony.
... no
GOOOO sAviOr!!!!
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Poor Savior, lol, FBH will rape him again and again, just watch. Sry fanboys, but your hopes are forsaken, Savior showed that in ALL his recent performances.
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Actually a mu that would intrigue me more would be Xellos vs FBH, lets see who the better Terran is k thx
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FbH vs Flash is great.
So far fbh is undefeated vs flash, would love to see him up against him again.
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On May 06 2008 06:10 Xeofreestyler wrote:Show nested quote +On May 06 2008 05:50 HamerD wrote: Seriously though, why IS savior so much worse than he was like a couple years ago? I mean it's not like he's incredibly old and his body is frail and beyond use. Has his mind decreased in capacity? Has he become completely mentally impotent?
Combination of different factors such as decrease in determination (its hard to keep that up for such a long time), his entire style having been completely analyzed and countered, his lack of self-esteem because of recent performances etc. Its only a natural that a dominant player loses his #1 spot after a certain period of time. I dont think there should be any regret anyway, Savior did a damn fine job of holding it. Also, what game is that gif from? lol
WTF @ .gif
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On May 06 2008 06:10 Xeofreestyler wrote:Show nested quote +On May 06 2008 05:50 HamerD wrote: Seriously though, why IS savior so much worse than he was like a couple years ago? I mean it's not like he's incredibly old and his body is frail and beyond use. Has his mind decreased in capacity? Has he become completely mentally impotent?
Combination of different factors such as decrease in determination (its hard to keep that up for such a long time), his entire style having been completely analyzed and countered, his lack of self-esteem because of recent performances etc. Its only a natural that a dominant player loses his #1 spot after a certain period of time. I dont think there should be any regret anyway, Savior did a damn fine job of holding it. Also, what game is that gif from? lol
wow. firebathero is such a fucktard.
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Can anyone tell me when this is happening PST?
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