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[Shinhan PL] eSTRO vs CJ Entus (26.4.)

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Aesop
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Hungary11305 Posts
Last Edited: 2008-05-04 08:14:57
April 25 2008 20:42 GMT
#1
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Shinhan Proleague Round 1, Week 3
14:00 KST @ OnGameNet

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Matchups
(Z)MinGu < Andromeda > (Z)GGPlay
(Z)hyvaa < Othello > (T)sKyHigh
(Z)CCoMa & (R)Tester < Hunters > (T)DarkElf & (Z)Kwanro
(T)Sea.Really < Blue Storm > (T)Memory
Closer < Colosseum >


+ Show Spoiler [Preview] +
CJ and eSTRO are closing the doors of this match with a large: NO PROTOSS ALLOWED written on the door. The only progamer paid to play Protoss, Tester, is playing Random on Hunters, likely to give his team in 2/3 of the cases a favorable matchup, as it is commonly agreed that 2 Z > All in 2on2 and PZ > TZ on Hunters.

Both teams are stuck in the no-man's land of the table, eSTRO, after two promising wins, was sent home 3-0 by MBC and 3-1 by KTF, although these are the teams hogging the top spots of the table at this time. CJ has had a mixed start in the season as well, going into the ace match two times, with Much taking out Hero against WeMade and Berserker losing to Midas against SKT1.

Neverminding that, it is fascinating to see who CJ has pulled out of their magic 1on1 player hat. While they already had the deepest lineup of all pro teams in the previous season, the signing of GGplay has made it even harder to predict who they send.

Mingu vs. GGplay
CJ seems to be relying heavily onto a reinvigorated GGplay who just cruised through his OSL group with relative ease, taking down Casy and BackHo in progress. His opponent is TL's new darling, the TL-Attack star Mingu! Of all matchups, ZvZ is his best stats-wise, but most of these games were played more than one year ago, his comeback since September has just resulted in a pure loss streak. However, GGplay is traditionally thought to be especially strong at hive tech level which is rarely ever reached in ZvZ.

Mingu > GGplay for the upset

hyvaa vs. sKyHigh
The data on hyvaa is scarce. He went 6-5 in minor league, losing to two terrans. sKyHigh on the other hand is an expected upcoming terran who was cutting through pre-qualifiers like a knife some time ago. The hype has subsided, but sKyHigh still has more of a reputation than hyvaa.

hyvaa < sKyHigh

eSTRO vs. CJ
The matchup will most likely favor eSTRO. However Darkelf and Kwanro are two individually very strong challengers. On hunters randomness can be decisive - the positions alone can decide the whole thing, and now we even have a player going random. As much as it can be predicted, I would hand it to eSTRO.

eSTRO > CJ

Sea.Really vs. Memory
Memory appears to like the MSL, as he went into the Quarters at GOM3 and is qualified for Arena again. However, there is one matchup which sports abysmal stats for him: TvT. Sea.Really is getting a lot of exposure lately, coming with a broad breast from the minor league where he went 6-1. This is however a different league and I believe that Memory's TvT is not as bad as the stats make it look - losing to Mind on his MSL3 run and to Midas in early 2007 is nothing to be ashamed of.

Sea.Really < Memory

There are two reasons for predicting an ace-match. First: I want to see one. Second: CJ always goes to Ace. There, like always, they have millions of options. It seems fashionable to send out Terrans on Colosseum, therefore we might be expecting one of each team. The second idea for CJ would of course sending the "probe master" Much out. My prediction would be (feel free to laugh):

Goodfriend < Darkelf


+ Show Spoiler [Results] +
Mingu < GGplay
hyvaa > sKyHigh
eSTRO < CJ Entus
Sea.Really < Memory

eSTRO 1 - 3 CJ Entus


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ShoutAbout
Profile Joined April 2007
Brazil177 Posts
April 25 2008 20:46 GMT
#2
SkyHigh for president.
Get off my plane!
KizZBG
Profile Blog Joined November 2006
u gotta skate8152 Posts
April 25 2008 22:10 GMT
#3
eStro ftw!
eSTRO for life | #2 Sea.Really fan! | #1 GosI[Flying] fan! | Clide - best SC2 terran!
B1nary
Profile Blog Joined January 2008
Canada1267 Posts
April 25 2008 22:17 GMT
#4
Wow. sAviOr isn't even playing T__T
clazziquai
Profile Blog Joined October 2007
6685 Posts
April 25 2008 22:18 GMT
#5
Whoa...no P's unless Tester's Random becomes a P.

Looking forward to good matches =D
#1 Sea.Really Fan / #1 Nesh Fan / Terran Forever~
.kaz
Profile Blog Joined January 2007
1963 Posts
April 25 2008 22:33 GMT
#6
eStro Hwaiting~
Ace Match GoodFriend~
Pressure - "rock is the defender of justice" 이병민 / 박영민 Hwaiting~
Zalfor
Profile Blog Joined October 2005
United States1035 Posts
April 25 2008 22:42 GMT
#7
xellos?
555, kthxbai
edzwoo
Profile Blog Joined June 2006
United States469 Posts
April 25 2008 23:27 GMT
#8
Actually, Memory's TvT is beyond abysmal. Re-watch his games vs Mind. He cannot manage a late game TvT for his life.
Kyuki
Profile Joined February 2008
Sweden1867 Posts
April 25 2008 23:40 GMT
#9
Can't see any liquibets for these upcoming proleague matches
Mada Mada Dane
Carefree
Profile Blog Joined November 2007
United States1571 Posts
April 25 2008 23:57 GMT
#10
Zerg and terran much?
DebOnAire - 「 Bisu[Shield] 」
Wasabi
Profile Blog Joined August 2006
United States3085 Posts
April 26 2008 00:34 GMT
#11
--- Nuked ---
soudo
Profile Blog Joined March 2008
603 Posts
April 26 2008 00:43 GMT
#12
Really? Random? Are they banking on a double zerg team?
grobo
Profile Blog Joined February 2007
Japan6199 Posts
April 26 2008 01:00 GMT
#13
Mingu fighting! *fistpump*
We make signature, then defense it.
Lhyviathan
Profile Blog Joined August 2007
Australia975 Posts
April 26 2008 01:23 GMT
#14
C'mon Mingers!
Nal_rA = The Fourth Race
._.
Profile Blog Joined November 2007
1133 Posts
Last Edited: 2008-04-26 01:28:04
April 26 2008 01:27 GMT
#15
Looks like Mingu's best mu is ZvZ and Memory really, really, really fucking sucks at TvT(Just checked LOL 16% WIN REC TVT) so he should get raped promptly sea.really, who I think after that game vs Kal, knows a bit of mechanical management.

Hyva vs Skyhigh is a big question mark, no one knows jackshit so it'll be fun to watch, as well as the 2v2.
:D
Deleted User 31060
Profile Blog Joined September 2007
3788 Posts
April 26 2008 01:56 GMT
#16
all of Memory's loses were against good terrans though (maybe not canata, but he's decent enough) so it's not like he sucks at the matchup

he's actually a really good 2v2 player so I expect him to do pretty well
Peaked at C- on ICCUP and proud of it! @Sunyveil
genwar
Profile Blog Joined March 2008
Canada537 Posts
April 26 2008 04:24 GMT
#17
Estro is probably my favorite team because of that interview with Daniel Lee.

Go Estro.
tttt
Profile Joined February 2008
United States386 Posts
April 26 2008 05:09 GMT
#18
Mingu looks pretty boned.
tttt
Profile Joined February 2008
United States386 Posts
April 26 2008 05:14 GMT
#19
GG from Mingu. He probably should've tried some kind of all-in instead of expo'ing himself. Then again I know absolutely nothing about zvz.
Aesop
Profile Joined October 2007
Hungary11305 Posts
April 26 2008 05:14 GMT
#20
GGplay owned with Muta micro and had his natural up way earlier.
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Titusmaster6
Profile Blog Joined September 2007
United States5937 Posts
April 26 2008 05:16 GMT
#21
Nice game. GGplay is a beast.
Shorts down shorts up, BOOM, just like that.
tttt
Profile Joined February 2008
United States386 Posts
April 26 2008 05:16 GMT
#22
Yeah Mingu lost too many drones/mining time in the beginning. It seems hard to come back zvz.
tttt
Profile Joined February 2008
United States386 Posts
April 26 2008 05:17 GMT
#23
Time for sKyHigh!!!! I'm missing boxer's tvt for this so he'd better perform. His tvt vs. baby was dirty last week.
Umbrella
Profile Blog Joined September 2007
Taiwan936 Posts
April 26 2008 05:20 GMT
#24
hate to see eStro lose. It's so sad =[
Aesop
Profile Joined October 2007
Hungary11305 Posts
April 26 2008 05:21 GMT
#25
You dont have to miss Boxer, Daezang vs. Shine just started, nothing decide yet.
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tttt
Profile Joined February 2008
United States386 Posts
April 26 2008 05:24 GMT
#26
Oh really? Good stuff. If GOM player works (and that's a big if) I'll definitely watch boxer.
Aesop
Profile Joined October 2007
Hungary11305 Posts
April 26 2008 05:27 GMT
#27
GOM doesnt have the streaming rights anymore as far as I know. But I am watching one window YY and one DAUM player, that works for me.
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Titusmaster6
Profile Blog Joined September 2007
United States5937 Posts
April 26 2008 05:37 GMT
#28
hyvaa orange at 7
skyhigh purp at 1
Shorts down shorts up, BOOM, just like that.
Titusmaster6
Profile Blog Joined September 2007
United States5937 Posts
April 26 2008 05:38 GMT
#29
hyvaa standard 3 hatch to spire
skyhigh fast expand
Shorts down shorts up, BOOM, just like that.
Aesop
Profile Joined October 2007
Hungary11305 Posts
April 26 2008 05:43 GMT
#30
Hyvaa is playing decent, he is at 3 base hive with defiler consume up and repelled the push which came just after that
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Ash
Profile Blog Joined September 2003
Malaysia1978 Posts
April 26 2008 05:44 GMT
#31
GGplay worths every penny CJ is paying for him :D
tttt
Profile Joined February 2008
United States386 Posts
April 26 2008 05:45 GMT
#32
Skyhigh isn't playing very well.
Aesop
Profile Joined October 2007
Hungary11305 Posts
April 26 2008 05:45 GMT
#33
Ultra cavern and 4th base up. If SH does not get the expos, he is dead. Hyvaa is managing well,
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Titusmaster6
Profile Blog Joined September 2007
United States5937 Posts
April 26 2008 05:46 GMT
#34
Sick def matrixed marine!
Shorts down shorts up, BOOM, just like that.
0z
Profile Joined August 2006
Luxembourg877 Posts
April 26 2008 05:47 GMT
#35
hyvaa looks like oov
Aesop
Profile Joined October 2007
Hungary11305 Posts
April 26 2008 05:48 GMT
#36
Six vessels with 1 HP, Magic Muta on the Move - but fails. Ultras with 5-2 on the field now.,
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tttt
Profile Joined February 2008
United States386 Posts
April 26 2008 05:48 GMT
#37
On April 26 2008 14:46 Titusmaster6 wrote:
Sick def matrixed marine!


His micro is amazing to watch but his macro is really letting him down this game.
Aesop
Profile Joined October 2007
Hungary11305 Posts
Last Edited: 2008-04-26 05:49:59
April 26 2008 05:49 GMT
#38
Ton of vessels go down, hyvaa is storming into SH's natural. SH has to irradiate ultras which are fighting, hurting his own inf. Has to gg out, really nice play by hyvaa.
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Umbrella
Profile Blog Joined September 2007
Taiwan936 Posts
April 26 2008 05:50 GMT
#39
woah gj hyvaa
amorpheus
Profile Joined May 2007
Bulgaria2144 Posts
April 26 2008 05:51 GMT
#40
pretty solid play by the Estro zerg
Titusmaster6
Profile Blog Joined September 2007
United States5937 Posts
April 26 2008 05:53 GMT
#41
Damn hyvaa impressed! Scouting all but one drop, plaguing vessels, taking and defending expansions, nice macro, and beautiful flanks and swarms.

Shorts down shorts up, BOOM, just like that.
tttt
Profile Joined February 2008
United States386 Posts
April 26 2008 05:53 GMT
#42
YY doesn't work for me for some reason. After it buffers I get this weird dialouge box entitled "r". I have the options "yes" "no" and "cancel" If I cancel it just keeps buffering and I get the box again shortly. If I say yes, it opens up my desktop folder. If I say no, it just keeps buffering. Anyone have this happen to them? I've already tried reinstalling TVants.
GTR
Profile Blog Joined September 2004
51558 Posts
April 26 2008 05:55 GMT
#43
On April 26 2008 14:47 0z wrote:
hyvaa looks like oov


actually i reckon he looks more like a young asian george lucas
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amorpheus
Profile Joined May 2007
Bulgaria2144 Posts
April 26 2008 06:02 GMT
#44
On April 26 2008 14:53 tttt wrote:
YY doesn't work for me for some reason. After it buffers I get this weird dialouge box entitled "r". I have the options "yes" "no" and "cancel" If I cancel it just keeps buffering and I get the box again shortly. If I say yes, it opens up my desktop folder. If I say no, it just keeps buffering. Anyone have this happen to them? I've already tried reinstalling TVants.

for me it works fine
tttt
Profile Joined February 2008
United States386 Posts
April 26 2008 06:03 GMT
#45
I know. It's something with my comp specifically. I just don't know how to fix it.
Aesop
Profile Joined October 2007
Hungary11305 Posts
April 26 2008 06:14 GMT
#46
Justed tuned into the 2on2, doesnt look so bad for CJ, does it?
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amorpheus
Profile Joined May 2007
Bulgaria2144 Posts
Last Edited: 2008-04-26 06:16:24
April 26 2008 06:15 GMT
#47
CJ won 2:1 now its time for Sea.Really, lol if I were a girl I would marry him
Umbrella
Profile Blog Joined September 2007
Taiwan936 Posts
April 26 2008 06:15 GMT
#48
Tester randoms protoss but eStro loses the first battle against marines and zerglings. CJ then contained eStro zerg with two supply depots and some marines and the rest of the forces containing eStro protoss. Eventually CJ just ran eStro zerg over with more forces and Tester couldn't save his ally.
Umbrella
Profile Blog Joined September 2007
Taiwan936 Posts
April 26 2008 06:25 GMT
#49
go sea.really! hoping for exciting ace later o:
KizZBG
Profile Blog Joined November 2006
u gotta skate8152 Posts
April 26 2008 06:25 GMT
#50
gogo Really!
eSTRO for life | #2 Sea.Really fan! | #1 GosI[Flying] fan! | Clide - best SC2 terran!
tttt
Profile Joined February 2008
United States386 Posts
April 26 2008 06:27 GMT
#51
I had forgotten how hideous Memory is. Really HWAITING!
Umbrella
Profile Blog Joined September 2007
Taiwan936 Posts
April 26 2008 06:33 GMT
#52
This is kind of random but who is the CJ guy who isn't a progamer but standing around all the time? He's wearing normal clothes (not uniforms). (Btw It's not the coach)
Aesop
Profile Joined October 2007
Hungary11305 Posts
April 26 2008 06:39 GMT
#53
Splitting the map along the ravine as it is fashionable in TvT. Really looked slightly ahead but a vulture harass in his main cost him quite a few scvs.
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TheTyranid
Profile Blog Joined April 2007
Russian Federation4333 Posts
April 26 2008 06:40 GMT
#54
I just dont understand. Why do both teams send a terran on BS? It's a z imba map. Same thing with zvz on Katrina :S
TheTyranid
Profile Blog Joined April 2007
Russian Federation4333 Posts
April 26 2008 06:41 GMT
#55
Mania has drops now. Ooooh hes going for the main!

Wuuut he drops pure vultures who cant do anything against Reallys tanks there...
Umbrella
Profile Blog Joined September 2007
Taiwan936 Posts
April 26 2008 06:42 GMT
#56
looks like memory's going for battlecruisers
TheTyranid
Profile Blog Joined April 2007
Russian Federation4333 Posts
April 26 2008 06:43 GMT
#57
Rele takes 12. Mania takes 6

Oh Relly just got burned by vults at 10. Both massing air. BC battles incoming.
amorpheus
Profile Joined May 2007
Bulgaria2144 Posts
April 26 2008 06:44 GMT
#58
memory's bcs will come faster damnit
TheTyranid
Profile Blog Joined April 2007
Russian Federation4333 Posts
April 26 2008 06:47 GMT
#59
Really is l8 on that sci facility. Mania already has BC.

Ok here is a big battle in the middle. Really's convential ground mix gets fucked by BC/tanks of Mania.

Oh mania just got vult raided by 2564564 vults at 5. The vults attack buildings, brilliant!
tttt
Profile Joined February 2008
United States386 Posts
April 26 2008 06:49 GMT
#60
GG. Pretty poorly played by Really, imo.
Aesop
Profile Joined October 2007
Hungary11305 Posts
April 26 2008 06:49 GMT
#61
Really not enough firepower to take out the opposing BCs and ggs.
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Deleted User 31060
Profile Blog Joined September 2007
3788 Posts
April 26 2008 06:49 GMT
#62
lol@all of the memory haters
Peaked at C- on ICCUP and proud of it! @Sunyveil
Umbrella
Profile Blog Joined September 2007
Taiwan936 Posts
April 26 2008 06:49 GMT
#63
Memory wins
rofl CJ coach fakes a highfive for memory, how mean xD
.kaz
Profile Blog Joined January 2007
1963 Posts
April 26 2008 06:51 GMT
#64
I dont' think really even used a single yamato, it was just Memory owning his entire bc fleet =/.
Another goodfriendless estro match, /sigh.
Pressure - "rock is the defender of justice" 이병민 / 박영민 Hwaiting~
Deleted User 31060
Profile Blog Joined September 2007
3788 Posts
April 26 2008 06:51 GMT
#65
NEEDS MOAR IDRA
Peaked at C- on ICCUP and proud of it! @Sunyveil
JIJI
Profile Blog Joined November 2007
Canada291 Posts
April 26 2008 06:53 GMT
#66
FUCK YEAH!! CJ!
Believing forever in sAviOr. Jaedong complete domination. IefNaij scarab explosion. MUCH <3
HaXxorIzed
Profile Blog Joined June 2007
Australia8434 Posts
April 26 2008 08:13 GMT
#67
Oooh, Memory won a TvT. Well done CJ.
http://steamcommunity.com/id/HaXxorIzed
Nyovne
Profile Joined March 2006
Netherlands19138 Posts
April 26 2008 08:30 GMT
#68
Rofl left him hanging after that match haha.
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Profile Blog Joined April 2008
Philippines8437 Posts
April 26 2008 11:26 GMT
#69
damn, they won without the maestro.
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