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Zergxhx
Profile Joined November 2020
China207 Posts
Last Edited: 2025-09-30 10:59:03
September 30 2025 10:52 GMT
#81
If Bisu couldn't beat Larva in Roaring Currents, he would lose to Larva today.
VioleTAK
Profile Joined July 2006
4408 Posts
September 30 2025 10:53 GMT
#82
Bisu made some questionable moves that felt like he underestimated how well Larva would respond. Please don't make that mistake again. Lets go 🐝🕴
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TMNT
Profile Joined January 2021
3221 Posts
Last Edited: 2025-09-30 10:55:38
September 30 2025 10:54 GMT
#83
On September 30 2025 19:44 Kaal wrote:
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On September 30 2025 19:42 konadora wrote:
bisu didn’t seem to have a late game plan

he was too late on his expos, and he really should have gotten the middle island expo or the 11 island expo - both to secure his own but also to deny Larva


He really should've tried to force a fight when he had that third expo that Larva never scouted, before the rest of the islands came into play. He had an advantage then. When that early probe saw Larva's entire BO there's no way that Bisu couldn't spin that into a timing of some sort. He seemed to have a solid start but he sputtered out in the midgame and was totally choked except for a few smart plays. Larva seemed to have a good plan throughout even though he let that probe live way too long.

Larva knew the 3rd expo of Protoss. It' textbook play on this map. He just didn't care because his plan was just to camp until Bisu taps out.

There's no rush timing on this map by either side (if you watch enough games on this map you'll see, it always goes harassment into late game), the reason being the rush distance and most importantly, there's only one place to attack/defend so both sides can just gather their whole army + static defence and they will hold (see Snow Dragoon Reaver timing vs Effort earlier for example).

The only realistic way for Protoss to win on this map vs Zerg (provided both sides don't make huge mistake in the early/mid game like losing drones or probes) is to go Carriers and fight vs Devourers until one side runs out of money.

This map pool turns out to be not anti Zerg like many claimed at all.
Magic Powers
Profile Joined April 2012
Austria4478 Posts
September 30 2025 10:55 GMT
#84
Bisu is still the PvZ goat, he'll take a few games from Larva. Lets go!
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Profile Blog Joined March 2010
United States45996 Posts
September 30 2025 11:02 GMT
#85
Trapping that dt was so clutch for Larva.
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gravity
Profile Joined March 2004
Australia2198 Posts
September 30 2025 11:04 GMT
#86
On September 30 2025 19:54 TMNT wrote:
There's no rush timing on this map by either side (if you watch enough games on this map you'll see, it always goes harassment into late game), the reason being the rush distance and most importantly, there's only one place to attack/defend so both sides can just gather their whole army + static defence

I wonder what would happen if both players camp and refuse to attack. Is there an ASL rule for that?
iFU.pauline
Profile Joined September 2009
France1722 Posts
September 30 2025 11:05 GMT
#87
There is no way larva is gaining ground control unless Bisu starts losing all units for nothing.
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Magic Powers
Profile Joined April 2012
Austria4478 Posts
September 30 2025 11:06 GMT
#88
On September 30 2025 20:04 gravity wrote:
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On September 30 2025 19:54 TMNT wrote:
There's no rush timing on this map by either side (if you watch enough games on this map you'll see, it always goes harassment into late game), the reason being the rush distance and most importantly, there's only one place to attack/defend so both sides can just gather their whole army + static defence

I wonder what would happen if both players camp and refuse to attack. Is there an ASL rule for that?


If the arbiter counts it as a draw, the game has to be replayed.
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VioleTAK
Profile Joined July 2006
4408 Posts
September 30 2025 11:07 GMT
#89
So many Lurks melted
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iFU.pauline
Profile Joined September 2009
France1722 Posts
September 30 2025 11:07 GMT
#90
Now I prefer this Bisu!
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BLinD-RawR
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
ALLEYCAT BLUES51068 Posts
September 30 2025 11:07 GMT
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Magic Powers
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Austria4478 Posts
September 30 2025 11:07 GMT
#92
Well, Larva didn't apply any early game pressure, so he got punished. That's Bisu for ya x)
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Toshinou-Kyouko
Profile Joined November 2024
Philippines633 Posts
September 30 2025 11:08 GMT
#93
no bisu bucket tonight
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DarkPlasmaBall
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
United States45996 Posts
September 30 2025 11:08 GMT
#94
Nice recovery, Bisu
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TMNT
Profile Joined January 2021
3221 Posts
September 30 2025 11:08 GMT
#95
12 Nexus to the rescue for Protoss (again)
iFU.pauline
Profile Joined September 2009
France1722 Posts
September 30 2025 11:08 GMT
#96
Radeon so hardcore for zerg, I predict Bisu wins with a roflstomp.
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VioleTAK
Profile Joined July 2006
4408 Posts
September 30 2025 11:10 GMT
#97
There we go!

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Toshinou-Kyouko
Profile Joined November 2024
Philippines633 Posts
September 30 2025 11:14 GMT
#98
bisu held against the ling pressure
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Kaal
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Djibouti2570 Posts
September 30 2025 11:14 GMT
#99
well this game is over lol
VioleTAK
Profile Joined July 2006
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September 30 2025 11:15 GMT
#100
HOLD!!!
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