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Artosis *
Profile Blog Joined June 2004
United States2140 Posts
December 06 2007 23:05 GMT
#21
oic. so considering its pretty big news why dont we let the guy who ran the event and did all the dirty work throughout post his news?
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FakeSteve[TPR]
Profile Blog Joined July 2003
Valhalla18444 Posts
December 06 2007 23:05 GMT
#22
*dt drops this thread, artosis frowns*
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Profile Blog Joined October 2006
Canada19447 Posts
December 06 2007 23:07 GMT
#23
On December 07 2007 08:05 Artosis3 wrote:
oic. so considering its pretty big news why dont we let the guy who ran the event and did all the dirty work throughout post his news?

I believe he's banned right now
iNcontroL *
Profile Blog Joined July 2004
USA29055 Posts
December 06 2007 23:07 GMT
#24
On December 07 2007 08:04 Rekrul wrote:
because we are impatient and peurtorican telling us to be patient just makes us more impatient.


Doesnt matter if you are impatient, TL.net can be respectful. This event was put on by PR. He should announce the conclusion. Deleting the voice of the host and making one yourself is disrespectful and rude..
Rekrul
Profile Blog Joined November 2002
Korea (South)17174 Posts
December 06 2007 23:07 GMT
#25
LOLOL
why so 진지해?
Chill
Profile Blog Joined January 2005
Calgary25988 Posts
December 06 2007 23:10 GMT
#26
On December 07 2007 08:01 Artosis3 wrote:
chill thats twice now that i strongly disagree with the way you are admining. dont compare me to some idiot just because i call you on it. rick was waiting for the eSTRO new site to go up. he was acting professionally. rick has a long history of hosting events. i see no reason to hijack a news he should make and then delete it when it gets out there.


See, what you just posted there is what a rational person would have posted. I can read that and realize I'm going to have to wait for the E-Stro site to be done. I also think holding onto replays for over a month is ridiculous. Just upload them somewhere for the time being and then you can post the news and replays elsewhere after the site is ready.

"Be patience" or "worrying about it will only make it seem longer" is something you tell a group of children to get them to stop bothering you. PR doesn't have to worry about us bothering him any more.

I'd prefer to continue this via PM, as apparently all I can do today is derail threads.

Seriously, good luck Idra! I hope you get some broadcasted games, that would be awesome.
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CaucasianAsian
Profile Blog Joined September 2005
Korea (South)11584 Posts
Last Edited: 2007-12-06 23:21:56
December 06 2007 23:19 GMT
#27
On December 07 2007 07:51 {88}iNcontroL wrote:
uh its not really him "going and playing a video game" its him going to another country and playing professionally. Colleges would probably view that kind of a thing with high regard as he is extremely unique and can bring fame to a university. But even if that isnt true I just think characterizing it as "playing a video game" grossly underestimates the magnitude of this honor. Dropping out of a term of highschool to do something few can ever do is not stupid. It'd be stupid to miss this oppurtunity to see a new part of the world and play the game he loves professionally in the name of maintaining his proliteriate life and droning on like so many sheep.

Oh and GL greg. You will really grow as a gamer if nothing else That being said I expect you to play me still AND get me games with some professionals.


As much as I'm glad to see another foreigner in the Korean professional scene, and how much I'm really into it myself, I just can't see an Office of Admission accepting a player who dropped out of high school to get his GED, move across the world to play a computer game.

I use the term playing a video game, as opposed to professionally master the techniques of strategy, mechanics, etc... of a renown sport. It's because in the United States, those who play video games a lot are still being put down as something like fat nerds who are cheeto covered and zit faced.

The honor of going to Korea is grandeur, and I strongly support Idra in doing so, however the fact still lies that he is just playing a video game. University admission offices, I hugely doubt, will see someone who they accepted, only to not finish graduating, getting a GED and claiming to play a video game in Korea. What would their response be? It's obviously not my call, but I still can foresee something like a letter stating that since he did not graduate, and got his GED, they will have to re-review his admission, and make it harder to get accepted.

EDIT: inc, I like the song in your sig (short stories with tragic endings), been listening it on my playlist for such a long time.
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iNcontroL *
Profile Blog Joined July 2004
USA29055 Posts
December 06 2007 23:27 GMT
#28
All I can say is Caucasianasian notice the difference between your assertions and what actually happens when IdrA does obtain his GED and still gets into a great college. There are these things called conditions, and the condition of IdrA's situation is far and away unique and seperate from the "fat zit faced nerd" who would drop out of HS to "play video games." You seem to fail to address one of the main premises to my other post, that is that IdrA's situation is extremely unique and profitable. I would imagine the 3-4 colleges (or less) that he applies to have NEVER had a student explain to them the reason for not completing the last term of an otherwise stellar HS academic run being a professional gaming stint in another country. And yes, they will be made aware of these conditions.
IdrA
Profile Blog Joined July 2004
United States11541 Posts
December 06 2007 23:27 GMT
#29
most schools allow you to defer admission, doubt the reason really matters.
getting a ged could be a sticking point, which is why im not gonna do it until i know the school accepts it.
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grobo
Profile Blog Joined February 2007
Japan6199 Posts
Last Edited: 2007-12-06 23:36:43
December 06 2007 23:33 GMT
#30
Good luck to you IdrA! enjoy yourself over there, i know i would.

edit: err.. if it even happens, i have no idea how all this GED, college, semester, terms blabla etc. works.
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Rekrul
Profile Blog Joined November 2002
Korea (South)17174 Posts
December 06 2007 23:36 GMT
#31
On December 07 2007 08:19 CaucasianAsian wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 07 2007 07:51 {88}iNcontroL wrote:
uh its not really him "going and playing a video game" its him going to another country and playing professionally. Colleges would probably view that kind of a thing with high regard as he is extremely unique and can bring fame to a university. But even if that isnt true I just think characterizing it as "playing a video game" grossly underestimates the magnitude of this honor. Dropping out of a term of highschool to do something few can ever do is not stupid. It'd be stupid to miss this oppurtunity to see a new part of the world and play the game he loves professionally in the name of maintaining his proliteriate life and droning on like so many sheep.

Oh and GL greg. You will really grow as a gamer if nothing else That being said I expect you to play me still AND get me games with some professionals.


As much as I'm glad to see another foreigner in the Korean professional scene, and how much I'm really into it myself, I just can't see an Office of Admission accepting a player who dropped out of high school to get his GED, move across the world to play a computer game.

I use the term playing a video game, as opposed to professionally master the techniques of strategy, mechanics, etc... of a renown sport. It's because in the United States, those who play video games a lot are still being put down as something like fat nerds who are cheeto covered and zit faced.

The honor of going to Korea is grandeur, and I strongly support Idra in doing so, however the fact still lies that he is just playing a video game. University admission offices, I hugely doubt, will see someone who they accepted, only to not finish graduating, getting a GED and claiming to play a video game in Korea. What would their response be? It's obviously not my call, but I still can foresee something like a letter stating that since he did not graduate, and got his GED, they will have to re-review his admission, and make it harder to get accepted.

EDIT: inc, I like the song in your sig (short stories with tragic endings), been listening it on my playlist for such a long time.


Incontrol is pretty much spot on. While what you say is true still in America, this is completely different. If you look the admissions people right in the eye and explain to them confidently that you're going to another country to pursue your dream as a professional gamer, they will be incredibly intrigued. I still talk about starcraft to whatever randoms I might meet when I go back to the states, even fucking girls. I have never ever ever gotten a negative response, and they are always interested as fuck.

But if it's all done through writing then it might be a bit harder. Also no idea how ready IdrA is to proudly exclaim to the world that he's a pro-gamer.

Last time I was in the states I was at a bar/party with my brother, and I was being a loser drinking alone on the wall at one point, and this girl that I felt was out of my league came up to me and was like..."hey whats wrong?" I was like "Well normally I would have fun but I live in Korea playing video games, so even if I did manage to pickup a girl I have no car, I have no place to stay, and I don't even know this city well enough to find a fucken motel 8...plus my mom is picking me up early tomorrow morning to go to the airport....so it's pretty much pointless to try or care tonight." Which henceforth sprung a long conversation about starcraft, videogames, korea, and how nerds end up owning the world then I realized I was pretty much in her pants.

Until I realized the very line I used to start the conversation and get her interest was fucking true. Whoops : (
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Pads
Profile Blog Joined January 2007
England3228 Posts
December 06 2007 23:36 GMT
#32
Only one of IdrA vs the pro in this pack

Btw, that he looked kinda beastly. Maxing at like 13min or so, IdrA did really well to get a gg out of him. Well played, wish constant practise with top class players, you can improve so fast. I hope you still visit TL.net when your in korea, tell us what its like etc. Again, gl.
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Diggity
Profile Blog Joined September 2007
United States806 Posts
December 06 2007 23:45 GMT
#33
Good luck Idra.

In the meantime what colleges have you applied to?
ShaLLoW[baY]
Profile Blog Joined January 2007
Canada12499 Posts
December 06 2007 23:47 GMT
#34
Goodluck IdrA and above all enjoy the experience! Don't forget to ask UpMagiC the secrets to Terran sexiness while you're there
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Hot_Bid
Profile Blog Joined October 2003
Braavos36379 Posts
December 06 2007 23:47 GMT
#35
On December 07 2007 08:19 CaucasianAsian wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 07 2007 07:51 {88}iNcontroL wrote:
uh its not really him "going and playing a video game" its him going to another country and playing professionally. Colleges would probably view that kind of a thing with high regard as he is extremely unique and can bring fame to a university. But even if that isnt true I just think characterizing it as "playing a video game" grossly underestimates the magnitude of this honor. Dropping out of a term of highschool to do something few can ever do is not stupid. It'd be stupid to miss this oppurtunity to see a new part of the world and play the game he loves professionally in the name of maintaining his proliteriate life and droning on like so many sheep.

Oh and GL greg. You will really grow as a gamer if nothing else That being said I expect you to play me still AND get me games with some professionals.


As much as I'm glad to see another foreigner in the Korean professional scene, and how much I'm really into it myself, I just can't see an Office of Admission accepting a player who dropped out of high school to get his GED, move across the world to play a computer game.

I use the term playing a video game, as opposed to professionally master the techniques of strategy, mechanics, etc... of a renown sport. It's because in the United States, those who play video games a lot are still being put down as something like fat nerds who are cheeto covered and zit faced.

The honor of going to Korea is grandeur, and I strongly support Idra in doing so, however the fact still lies that he is just playing a video game. University admission offices, I hugely doubt, will see someone who they accepted, only to not finish graduating, getting a GED and claiming to play a video game in Korea. What would their response be? It's obviously not my call, but I still can foresee something like a letter stating that since he did not graduate, and got his GED, they will have to re-review his admission, and make it harder to get accepted.

I'm guessing you're not on a college admissions committee, so I doubt you are an expert on them or how they measure kids. Are you suggesting that the college admissions process is materially influenced by stereotypes of video gamers, about things like physical appearance or because video games are "put down"? That's pretty ridiculous. You really think colleges look at your admissions file and give two shits about whether your hobbies make you look cool?

If Idra has a good SAT and GPA up to when he left (I'm assuming he only has 1 semester left given his birthdate), I really doubt the issue will make a difference. They have 90% of your grades to look at. Even if it does influence an admissions board, it'll be the OTHER way, as it'll make him stand out rather than hurt him.

Frankly, I don't think you have any clue about what colleges look at when they consider kids for college. Making a statement like "I don't see how any college would accept you after this" is just ridiculously broad and ignorant, not to mention very likely wrong.
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G5
Profile Blog Joined August 2005
United States2919 Posts
December 06 2007 23:53 GMT
#36
good luck idra

i wish u the best
Rekrul
Profile Blog Joined November 2002
Korea (South)17174 Posts
December 06 2007 23:58 GMT
#37
First thing Daniel will say to u is that u need a fucken hair cut, guaranteed!
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thedeadhaji *
Profile Blog Joined January 2006
39489 Posts
Last Edited: 2007-12-06 23:59:37
December 06 2007 23:58 GMT
#38
Incontrol's take on the matter was exactly how I would see it, if I were on a committee. There was some former top Quake3 pro at my uni when i was there, he was obviously a smart dude but having been a 'professional gamer' clearly gave him a unique quality that others didn't have.

Anyways Idra I wish you the best of luck chasing a dream of yours. Some people give you a bad rap, but while I may not know you on a personal level but I have never seen anything from you that would lead me to believe you are a twisted, horrible, or even just a 'bad' person. As such, I genuinely hope for good and great things to come your way, to a fellow member of our community.

Godspeed
SolaR-
Profile Blog Joined February 2004
United States2685 Posts
December 07 2007 00:03 GMT
#39
I agree with CaucasianAsian. Greg obtaining his GED instead of a diploma could have a profound impact on his acceptance to the college. To a college, it looks bad that he couldn't finish one semester of high school, and to top it off, it was for a computer game. Personally, I do not see Greg's decision as a bad one. However, the truth is the system is ignorant, shallow and to the point. Colleges will see video games and GED, and will automatically have a negative outlook.
IdrA
Profile Blog Joined July 2004
United States11541 Posts
December 07 2007 00:09 GMT
#40
... learn to read
i wouldnt take a GED until i found out of if the college im going to go to was ok with it.
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