EPT[SSL Autumn] Ro24 Group F - Page 6
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RowdierBob
Australia13433 Posts
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PVJ
Hungary5221 Posts
Like the 3 arbiters here, they did not even spam all their spells. Get better with arbiter, man! It 's been quite long since I've seen a big, swooping, paralysing stasis on a terran ground army. | ||
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Kaal
Djibouti2570 Posts
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RJBTVYOUTUBE
Netherlands1273 Posts
On September 04 2024 20:44 PVJ wrote: I was having this thought last month -- pro's (and every protoss) should play some arbiter micro custom map games. It's true that terran got better at handling arbiters but I don't believe that's the only reason. Like the 3 arbiters here, they did not even spam all their spells. Get better with arbiter, man! It 's been quite long since I've seen a big, swooping, paralysing stasis on a terran ground army. Watch terran positions more closely. When shuttle templar meta happened terrans started to pay much more attention to splitting tanks up to avoid losing all of them to well placed storm. Light specifically introduced a new method of very rapidly splitting tanks up and sieging them individually. Mind was somewhat doing the same thing. Tanks were spread out so well that stasis can hardly get any. | ||
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TMNT
3263 Posts
On September 04 2024 20:44 PVJ wrote: I was having this thought last month -- pro's (and every protoss) should play some arbiter micro custom map games. It's true that terran got better at handling arbiters but I don't believe that's the only reason. Like the 3 arbiters here, they did not even spam all their spells. Get better with arbiter, man! It 's been quite long since I've seen a big, swooping, paralysing stasis on a terran ground army. It's not that useful really. This game has a pretty weird opening, on a weird map, and Mind was soooo conservative, that's the only reason Free got to 3-4 Arbiters full of energy. Situations like this are a rarity. Plus, there's nothing to pratice on stasis. It's just one click. The issue is the players dont have the omni vision us viewers have. A lot of the times we thought "terrible stasis" but that's only because we see the rest of the tank line but the players don't and they're just scraping to hit a stasis before the Arbiter gets killed/emp'd. Yeah and like RJB said, only mediocre Terrans make clumped tanks these days. | ||
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Kaal
Djibouti2570 Posts
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whaski
Finland577 Posts
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Kaal
Djibouti2570 Posts
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Kaal
Djibouti2570 Posts
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PVJ
Hungary5221 Posts
Yes tanks are not clumped as in the old days. But I thought the whole point for free was that he could put out a lot of stasises a - sequentially, always chipping away from the marching army, ie. not let the terran set up the position terran wishes to set up b - parallel, when terran arrives you have 6 stasises. Six means that all the spread army can be mostly covered in chrystal. That wasn't the case in this match, in this battle either. They could get more observers, or lock down goliaths with dragoons while the arbiters come from the back, etc. I don't subscribe to the thought that "yes this is all there is to arbiters" because broodwar always proves that actually there is always more. | ||
BLinD-RawR
ALLEYCAT BLUES51129 Posts
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TornadoSteve
1119 Posts
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TMNT
3263 Posts
On September 04 2024 21:09 PVJ wrote: @Tmnt @Rjb yes I get your point. I didn't know about Light's new technique but those are the exact reasons I think protoss needs to train. Train for example to watch terran positions more closely. Yes tanks are not clumped as in the old days. But I thought the whole point for free was that he could put out a lot of stasises a - sequentially, always chipping away from the marching army, ie. not let the terran set up the position terran wishes to set up b - parallel, when terran arrives you have 6 stasises. Six means that all the spread army can be mostly covered in chrystal. That wasn't the case in this match, in this battle either. They could get more observers, or lock down goliaths with dragoons while the arbiters come from the back, etc. I don't subscribe to the thought that "yes this is all there is to arbiters" because broodwar always proves that actually there is always more. Yeah I mean if we talk about that game Free could have and should have like 3 more stasis on the tanks even if it only covers 1 2 tanks, but his clumsy control... my god. But if we talk about PvT in general it's not really useful. Rarely do we see more than 1 Arbiter, if not at all, on the field these days. The only micro Protoss should practice is how micro the Reavers like Snow. | ||
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Bonyth
Poland611 Posts
In both matches, Free showed great macro skills, and below average army control. Allthough placing robotics in a way that a reaver cannot get out of base questions his 'great macro', so yeah, he is just an average joe (compared to other progamers at least). | ||
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RJBTVYOUTUBE
Netherlands1273 Posts
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TornadoSteve
1119 Posts
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namkraft
574 Posts
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townhouse
United States40 Posts
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Turbovolver
Australia2435 Posts
God, watching him just destroy Terrans feels as good as it always did. The way he confidently took fights in situations that I could see another Protoss backing off and waiting really reminded me of the era where he was one of the dragons. Really hope he makes a deep run. | ||
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Lazyer
United States391 Posts
 happy that Stork finally made it out of Ro24! and he's looking good. Was excited to see either JyJ or Mind come out too, I forgot that they had played in the finals of ASL 15. There aren't enough zergs for JyJ to mow thru this time around, so I don't expect him to get as far as that season. | ||
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