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Bombastic 25th Anniversary LAN - Thailand, Phuket - Page 3

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Eywa-
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Canada4876 Posts
June 14 2023 11:50 GMT
#41
With risk of being controversial, Retro is a better modernization of Luna than Neo Luna.

Also, Sparkle for Vermeer would instantly make the map pool better.

Also, also, this is going to be cool regardless of map pool.
Being mannered is almost as important as winning. Almost...
MineraIs
Profile Joined September 2020
United States846 Posts
June 14 2023 21:26 GMT
#42
On June 14 2023 20:50 Eywa- wrote:
With risk of being controversial, Retro is a better modernization of Luna than Neo Luna.

Also, Sparkle for Vermeer would instantly make the map pool better.

Also, also, this is going to be cool regardless of map pool.


Retro is a modernized FS.
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PhilGood2DaY
Profile Joined September 2005
Germany7424 Posts
June 14 2023 22:50 GMT
#43
whatever it is .. it is a great map

and this map pool lacks good maps

TT
hatred outlives the hateful
Eywa-
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Canada4876 Posts
June 14 2023 23:44 GMT
#44
On June 15 2023 06:26 MineraIs wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 14 2023 20:50 Eywa- wrote:
With risk of being controversial, Retro is a better modernization of Luna than Neo Luna.

Also, Sparkle for Vermeer would instantly make the map pool better.

Also, also, this is going to be cool regardless of map pool.


Retro is a modernized FS.

I mean, Fighting Spirit was arguably a modernization of Luna.
Being mannered is almost as important as winning. Almost...
BulgarianToss
Profile Joined May 2011
Bulgaria495 Posts
June 15 2023 16:25 GMT
#45
This is great news! As always my heart will want to join these tournaments and give the gosus a tough game or two, but my mind will probably lead me astray. Nevertheless, this will help keep the scene alive so thank you!
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ZZZero.O
Profile Joined July 2011
Poland1616 Posts
June 20 2023 22:31 GMT
#46
Hello guys,

We decided to implement a few changes into the announced event. I hope you will all love them!
1. We will update the map pool, by eliminating the map, which is unupdateable + add bonus map challenge.
2. We will extend qualifications phase by adding THREE Ladder Stages on ShieldBattery where you can earn BSL 2023 Points by practicing on ThaiLANd maps!

I. MAP POOL

1. (Wiki)Third Impact will be replaced with (Wiki)Champion (Challenger remake)
2. The moment we will reach $10 000 goal, we will switch (Wiki)Sparkle into (Wiki)Paranoid Android XXL

Map pool after update:
1. (Wiki)Sand Storm (Remake of Blue Storm)
2. (Wiki)Champion (Remake of Challenger)
3. (Wiki)Winter Solstice (Remake of Tau Cross)
4. (Wiki)Neo Rush Hour (Remake of Rush Hour)
5. (Wiki)Lights Out (Remake of Circuit Breakers)
6. (Wiki)Neo Luna (Remake of Luna)
7. (Wiki)Sparkle (Most balanced island map)

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II. BSL 2023 Points
We decided to add an extra way to gain BSL 2023 Points. Beside winning points in 25x Qualifier Tournaments, you will be able to win them for being active on ShieldBattery.

We will have three months of ladder with map pool of Bombastic 25th Anniversary LAN:
  • 01.07 - 31.07 - Bombastic 25th Anniversary LAN - July
  • 01.08 - 31.08 - Bombastic 25th Anniversary LAN - August
  • 01.09 - 24.09 - Bombastic 25th Anniversary LAN - September

Each month TOP10 players will win extra BSL 2023 Points:
1st - 150 Points
2nd - 130 Points
3rd - 110 Points
4th - 90 Points
5th - 70 Points
6th - 50 Points
7th - 40 Points
8th - 30 Points
9th - 20 Points
10th - 10 Points

That gives 700 extra points each month, 2100 extra points total. Which is ~20% extra points to earn for the active players: ~10 000 points in Qualifier Tournaments and 2100 points in SB Ladder Stages.

[image loading]


I will create a new post regarding qualifiers next week, where I will add links to sign up for each tournament as well as for the each month league on ShieldBattery.

I hope you like the changes, stay tuned!
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[sc1f]eonzerg
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
Belgium7012 Posts
June 20 2023 23:06 GMT
#47
ZZZero you shaping this to be a great tourney. Now lets change Neo Luna for Retro and We actually have a really solid map pool.And we could make it even better by changing Sparkle for La campanella the new ASL map. Think about it instead of that Rush hour remake please.
Testbug[bwmn]
Profile Joined January 2023
32 Posts
June 21 2023 01:17 GMT
#48
On June 21 2023 08:06 [sc1f]eonzerg wrote:
ZZZero you shaping this to be a great tourney. Now lets change Neo Luna for Retro and We actually have a really solid map pool.And we could make it even better by changing Sparkle for La campanella the new ASL map. Think about it instead of that Rush hour remake please.


Hii Eonzerg!
The new version of Neo Luna is really impressive, just take a look, i hope you will like it:
[image loading]
Peeano
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
Netherlands5700 Posts
June 21 2023 09:58 GMT
#49
It's up to the organizers to decide the map pool as much as it is for a player to decide to enter the tournament.

That said... Good thing you changed the map pool. You need maps from the current ladder pool and/or whatever the Korean pros are playing on right now (next ASL maps) and maybe 2 odd maps, if you want to interest the top foreigners and see quality games. The top player base is so small - and they'll be eachothers' competitors - it's almost impossible to get solid practice on maps that aren't used anywhere else (even if they aren't odd).

I'm a big fan of the odd maps, but the reality is that the best way for a foreigner to improve is grind ladder all day and thus they comparatively suck at odd maps. Actually the same is true for pros. We saw that with 76 recently in ASL (and Neo Arkanoid before that). The majority of ASL players just ended up vetoing 76. In general players seem quite clueless how to play odd maps. They need a certain rule set they can follow and stick to for their mechanics, one they already know. They don't want to invent a new way, because it takes too much time or too much effort.The time of players like Boxer is long gone. Being creative, cheesy if you will, is no longer beneficial unless you're Shine.

Please don't try too hard to please eOn as he will complain about the map pool regardless lol
FBH #1!
ZZZero.O
Profile Joined July 2011
Poland1616 Posts
Last Edited: 2023-06-21 13:42:06
June 21 2023 13:41 GMT
#50
On June 21 2023 18:58 Peeano wrote:
It's up to the organizers to decide the map pool as much as it is for a player to decide to enter the tournament.

That said... Good thing you changed the map pool. You need maps from the current ladder pool and/or whatever the Korean pros are playing on right now (next ASL maps) and maybe 2 odd maps, if you want to interest the top foreigners and see quality games. The top player base is so small - and they'll be eachothers' competitors - it's almost impossible to get solid practice on maps that aren't used anywhere else (even if they aren't odd).

I'm a big fan of the odd maps, but the reality is that the best way for a foreigner to improve is grind ladder all day and thus they comparatively suck at odd maps. Actually the same is true for pros. We saw that with 76 recently in ASL (and Neo Arkanoid before that). The majority of ASL players just ended up vetoing 76. In general players seem quite clueless how to play odd maps. They need a certain rule set they can follow and stick to for their mechanics, one they already know. They don't want to invent a new way, because it takes too much time or too much effort.The time of players like Boxer is long gone. Being creative, cheesy if you will, is no longer beneficial unless you're Shine.

Please don't try too hard to please eOn as he will complain about the map pool regardless lol


Well there is always group of foreigners who will complain about the maps - you can't please everyone, as there are three different races.

The map change was made because map maker of Third Impact was inactive to make necessary changes to balance and polish the map. Exchanging Sparkle plan was there from the very beginning

Regarding choosing ladder maps - I always try to involve at least 3 maps from ladder in BSL - but BSL ladder is shorter, here we will have 3 months of ladder on SB on THIS TOUR MAP POOL - so for those who will want to practice, they will have a chance to do it. That's the exact reason we added ladder stages on SB - to give you a good place to practice on those maps.
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[sc1f]eonzerg
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
Belgium7012 Posts
June 21 2023 16:30 GMT
#51
Jaedong in Thailand ?

[image loading]


If Jaedong actually agree to go there that will be super insane. Hopefully they invite some others progamers also so the winner will not be clear by Jaedong smashing foreigners.

Btw i thought ZZZero said it was a non korean tournament. I guess he forgot to type in the memo that they were trying to invite progamers too. But good decision. This can give so much hype to the tourney now and mb help to get more prizepool.
iFU.spx
Profile Joined April 2011
Russian Federation378 Posts
June 21 2023 18:31 GMT
#52
On June 22 2023 01:30 [sc1f]eonzerg wrote:

Btw i thought ZZZero said it was a non korean tournament.


[image loading]


I believe non-kor rules are only for online qualifications.
Peeano
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
Netherlands5700 Posts
June 21 2023 20:01 GMT
#53
It's a bit confusing for sure. OP also made me think this is a non-kor tournament.

Anyway. What happens to invited players? Where will they start in the bracket? Inviting Major league players, like JD, will be injecting unfair competition lol. But getting to meet him in Thailand would be a nice consolation I guess. Also top 8 getting flight & accommodation covered is super nice. It's like a free BW vacation if you're good enough.
FBH #1!
ZZZero.O
Profile Joined July 2011
Poland1616 Posts
June 21 2023 20:15 GMT
#54
This supossed to be a surprise... We might have some Koreans to come and play some showmatches - not sure though. Our Offline organizers are doing everything they can to make event amazing!
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M3t4PhYzX
Profile Joined March 2019
Poland4273 Posts
June 21 2023 20:35 GMT
#55
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NotJumperer
Profile Blog Joined July 2005
United States1371 Posts
June 21 2023 22:52 GMT
#56
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Lovethelord
Profile Blog Joined January 2023
47 Posts
June 22 2023 00:55 GMT
#57
Even if the KR pros smash everyone, it would be so good for the scene in general to have them come and join in. It's a special offline event, I think most people would love for them to come.
chenchuan
Profile Joined February 2023
37 Posts
June 22 2023 04:50 GMT
#58
On June 22 2023 05:15 ZZZero.O wrote:
This supossed to be a surprise... We might have some Koreans to come and play some showmatches - not sure though. Our Offline organizers are doing everything they can to make event amazing!

Inviting Koreans to participate in competitions outside of the BSL online competition is exciting.They will definitely bring more highlights to this offline competition.

Also, may I ask if the travel and accommodation expenses for this offline competition are borne by everyone alone?
EndingLife
Profile Blog Joined December 2002
United States1605 Posts
June 23 2023 19:42 GMT
#59
Holy 25 qualifiers lol
LML
Profile Blog Joined March 2007
Germany1794 Posts
June 23 2023 20:20 GMT
#60
On June 22 2023 13:50 chenchuan wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 22 2023 05:15 ZZZero.O wrote:
This supossed to be a surprise... We might have some Koreans to come and play some showmatches - not sure though. Our Offline organizers are doing everything they can to make event amazing!

Inviting Koreans to participate in competitions outside of the BSL online competition is exciting.They will definitely bring more highlights to this offline competition.

Also, may I ask if the travel and accommodation expenses for this offline competition are borne by everyone alone?


The top 8 players from the qualification stage get their expenses paid. Everybody else that wants to come has to do so on their own dime.
LML
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