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BLinD-RawR
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prosatan
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prosatan
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On February 16 2022 19:26 BLinD-RawR wrote: not the best storms i think the storms were decent BLinD-RawR, but he lost his templars... | ||
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BLinD-RawR
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prosatan
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+ Show Spoiler + just like yesterday between snow and ggaemo | ||
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BLinD-RawR
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prosatan
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 I swear, Ruin hasn't made and major mistakes... and he lost right away ... | ||
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ggsimida
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Sirris
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On February 16 2022 19:27 prosatan wrote: Good storms...but Ruin hasn't a good position anymore...I wonder what mistakes he made ! Just a really mediocre build line. Starting from 2 cannons early for no reason. Just as an example. Nothing Ruin did was gaining an advantage. He managed to kill some mutas but then lost most of the sairs. I think he expected a lurker switch earlier from Soma based on the gas timing but Soma delayed the switch and punished the early goon production. THEN went lurker. You look at someone like Ruin compared to a player like Mini and you see that protoss needs to really be on the edge of defense against a great zerg player. You can't over defend or play too safe. You need to have offensive pressure to keep zerg from getting too big(as in too many drones early). | ||
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prosatan
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On February 16 2022 19:32 Sirris wrote: Just a really mediocre build line. Starting from 2 cannons early for no reason. Just as an example. Nothing Ruin did was gaining an advantage. He managed to kill some mutas but then lost most of the sairs. I think he expected a lurker switch earlier from Soma based on the gas timing but Soma delayed the switch and punished the early goon production. THEN went lurker. You look at someone like Ruin compared to a player like Mini and you see that protoss needs to really be on the edge of defense against a great zerg player. You can't over defend or play too safe. You need to have offensive pressure to keep zerg from getting too big. I see Sirris...but one cannon vs maybe more speedlings...then is very hard for p with lings running in your main... idk | ||
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M3t4PhYzX
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Sirris
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 Luckily I voted JYJ. | ||
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TMNT
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On February 16 2022 19:32 Sirris wrote: Just a really mediocre build line. Starting from 2 cannons early for no reason. Just as an example. Nothing Ruin did was gaining an advantage. He managed to kill some mutas but then lost most of the sairs. I think he expected a lurker switch earlier from Soma based on the gas timing but Soma delayed the switch and punished the early goon production. THEN went lurker. You look at someone like Ruin compared to a player like Mini and you see that protoss needs to really be on the edge of defense against a great zerg player. You can't over defend or play too safe. You need to have offensive pressure to keep zerg from getting too big(as in too many drones early). Isn't the reason apparent: 2 Cannons is standard vs 9 Pool. 1 Cannon is kinda middle of the road, you can't apply pressure but at the same time is not totally safe. Might as well go for Gate expand instead. There's a reason the greatest PvZ players (Bisu, Mini) almost always go for Gate instead of Forge expand. That's what I find unfair about this match-up. As a Protoss in PvZ, playing safe doesn't win you the game unless Zerg fucks up his macro by himself. | ||
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Sirris
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emperorchampion
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Sirris
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On February 16 2022 19:42 TMNT wrote: Isn't the reason apparent: 2 Cannons is standard vs 9 Pool. 1 Cannon is kinda middle of the road, you can't apply pressure but at the same time is not totally safe. Might as well go for Gate expand instead. There's a reason the greatest PvZ players (Bisu, Mini) almost always go for Gate instead of Forge expand. That's what I find unfair about this match-up. As a Protoss in PvZ, playing safe doesn't win you the game unless Zerg fucks up his macro by himself. I agree with you. I think Ruin was hoping to counter the 12 hatch with nexus first. It didn't work out for him though. | ||
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Sirris
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prosatan
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