EPTOn May 16 2021 20:46 Rainalcar wrote:
Still amazed with people convinced that ZvP is balanced.
Still amazed with people convinced that ZvP is balanced.
Still amazed people make comments like this.
[ASL11] Ro8 Day 3 - Page 3
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Miragee
8597 Posts
Still amazed people make comments like this. | ||
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Dangermousecatdog
United Kingdom7084 Posts
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BLinD-RawR
ALLEYCAT BLUES50586 Posts
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[sc1f]eonzerg
Belgium6777 Posts
On May 16 2021 20:50 BLinD-RawR wrote: I do believe that not expecting lurker drops from hero is a bad assumption to make. Specially without spire. | ||
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arbiter_md
Moldova1219 Posts
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nojok
France15845 Posts
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prosatan
Romania8495 Posts
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oxKnu
1240 Posts
I do agree with a previous post that now that Flash is not here to clean up the zergs, they'll start running rampant and truly dominate ASL. It started last season and I think it will continue until whenever ASL is discontinued. (maybe 3 more seasons). I don't think Rush is complete of a player and strong enough in offline settings to put up enough resistance on his own. | ||
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TMNT
3085 Posts
On May 16 2021 20:24 RowdierBob wrote: Snow needed to use Bisu's build from KCM against Larva. 2 gate cair, dominate the air into zeal/ht/archon/reaver push. He let Hero expand and macro way too easily. I'm not sure it's the build to actually beat this 4 base turtle Zerg on Ultimate Stream though. In that game Larva pretty much tried to ling all in Bisu, which didn't work. After that he was left with nothing, hence Bisu could go double Stargate and massacre the overlords and build up an insurmountable lead. Ultimate Stream is almost a guaranteed win for Zerg if they use this strategy. | ||
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RKC
2848 Posts
On May 16 2021 20:58 oxKnu wrote: Crappy Ro8. Bad, non-competitive series all around. These maps are not good. I do agree with a previous post that now that Flash is not here to clean up the zergs, they'll start running rampant and truly dominate ASL. It started last season and I think it will continue until whenever ASL is discontinued. (maybe 3 more seasons). I don't think Rush is complete of a player and strong enough in offline settings to put up enough resistance on his own. Agreed. Balance or imbalance, it's just not conducive for the scene to have another consecutive ASL with 3Z in SF and ZvZ in Finals. At least Flash dominating ASL was more interesting the same way a John Wick action flick is. One race dominating the other two races over and over again with the same old tricks (hydra bust and muta balls) is just boring. Even with Flash kicking ass, the games were dynamic because his opponents were throwing different curve-balls to take him down. I really hope the map pool will be refreshed to diminish some of Zerg's early and mid-game advantages going forward (maybe even minor touches like eliminating 'spotter' zones for overlords to camp unharmed). | ||
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Magic Powers
Austria4478 Posts
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[sc1f]eonzerg
Belgium6777 Posts
On May 16 2021 21:31 RKC wrote: Agreed. Balance or imbalance, it's just not conducive for the scene to have another consecutive ASL with 3Z in SF and ZvZ in Finals. At least Flash dominating ASL was more interesting the same way a John Wick action flick is. One race dominating the other two races over and over again with the same old tricks (hydra bust and muta balls) is just boring. Even with Flash kicking ass, the games were dynamic because his opponents were throwing different curve-balls to take him down. I really hope the map pool will be refreshed to diminish some of Zerg's early and mid-game advantages going forward (maybe even minor touches like eliminating 'spotter' zones for overlords to camp unharmed). Well But zerg and zvz is part of Starcraft.Lets no forget Flash loss semifinals to zero later on loss semis to Soma playing random.If you look at the round of 8 balance do you have 3 zergs 3 protoss 2 terrans. The reality is that zero is the best zerg player there is been in Starcraft now.You could only wish Bisu get his shit together in ASL and smash zergs again like he always does on his regular streams.I think if Rush beat larva we are going to have a zerg vs terran final. Zero vs Rush. I cant see hero beating rush. | ||
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TMNT
3085 Posts
On May 16 2021 21:37 Magic Powers wrote: Was rooting for Snow, but his PvZ still doesn't look polished enough. He rarely blunders and he has great army management, those seem to be his strong points. Hard to say what exactly cost him the match, but it surely wasn't down to luck. Game 1 he died from a hydra burst which is of no shame. All Protosses die from that. It's just the nature of the match up. Game 2 he won, so nothing to say here. Game 3 the map heavily favors Zerg with that strategy. Not much else he could do. Game 4 the lurker drops cost him the game. That's his "big" mistake. But it's no bigger a mistake than, say a Terran/Zerg not being able to dodge a storm drop in time (see game 3 where the storm/reaver drops did nothing to Zerg's econ). On the other hand, Hero did not do anything particularly special, he just played his standard game. I know this opinion may trigger some, but imo overall Snow did not play bad, he just didn't play good enough to overcome the deficit Protoss has to overcome in this match up and this map pool. | ||
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TornadoSteve
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orth0dox
28 Posts
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Scarlett`
Canada2392 Posts
Snow just didn't play very well today especially on the earlygame I would much rather play on this map pool than previous ASL seasons or BSL map pool | ||
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Qikz
United Kingdom12023 Posts
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BisuDagger
Bisutopia19299 Posts
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Piste
6180 Posts
 herO has the best ZvP on the planet. | ||
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Lazyer
United States365 Posts
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