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BLinD-RawR
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srj
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nojok
France15846 Posts
As much as I want Soma to win, I don't want a ZvZ so go light. | ||
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China10252 Posts
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Match Point Neo Sylphid Escalade Polypoid Horizon Lunar Colony | ||
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srj
Canada134 Posts
On April 14 2020 17:01 nojok wrote: He's new at the upper echelon of the scene, he's made it further than any rookie has in years BUT if he makes it to the final it will be a ZvZ. As much as I want Soma to win, I don't want a ZvZ so go light. It's all Flash's fault. I'll cheer for Soma and blame Flash for the ZvZ. | ||
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radadaundandan
Bulgaria3148 Posts
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Ziggy
South Korea2106 Posts
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Amanebak
Czech Republic528 Posts
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ggsimida
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TaardadAiel
Bulgaria750 Posts
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KrulAsfaltuf
Zimbabwe70 Posts
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Sonic_md
Moldova278 Posts
I`m a T user, and i like TvZ match up, but Light is not my favourite Terran. I want that some Z take this ASL. But ZvZ final will be so fast)) every game will be less 10-12 minutes, but may be 3-2 But If some game will include swarm, defilers, queen, devourers (and more 20 minutes) i want that ZvZ))) | ||
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BLinD-RawR
ALLEYCAT BLUES50898 Posts
On April 14 2020 17:44 Amanebak wrote: No wise words from BLinD-RawR about protoss... What? | ||
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[sc1f]eonzerg
Belgium6872 Posts
On April 14 2020 18:11 Sonic_md wrote: sorry for my bad english in some places I`m a T user, and i like TvZ match up, but Light is not my favourite Terran. I want that some Z take this ASL. But ZvZ final will be so fast)) every game will be less 10-12 minutes, but may be 3-2 But If some game will include swarm, defilers, queen, devourers (and more 20 minutes) i want that ZvZ))) Final is bo7 i think | ||
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[sc1f]eonzerg
Belgium6872 Posts
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Sonic_md
Moldova278 Posts
Both players are not my favourite in his races. | ||
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Sonic_md
Moldova278 Posts
On April 14 2020 18:18 [sc1f]eonzerg wrote: We didnt have a zvz final in a long time.and it will be extremely important for the scene if amateur player win ASL. yes yes it is BO7 of course, I made a mistake. 4-3 in ZvZ will be so good)) an it will be for 2 hours . if in TvZ will be 4-3 it will be about 4 hours eOn, are you worried about yours today? for zergs? ))) u want ZvZ final? | ||
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Amanebak
Czech Republic528 Posts
On April 14 2020 18:11 BLinD-RawR wrote: Show nested quote + On April 14 2020 17:44 Amanebak wrote: No wise words from BLinD-RawR about protoss... What? Well I thought your second post in Ro8 group D thread was "fuck protoss", I hoped to find something similar here too. But I checked the thread again and found it wasn't there. My apologies. | ||
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[sc1f]eonzerg
Belgium6872 Posts
On April 14 2020 18:24 Sonic_md wrote: Show nested quote + On April 14 2020 18:18 [sc1f]eonzerg wrote: We didnt have a zvz final in a long time.and it will be extremely important for the scene if amateur player win ASL. yes yes it is BO7 of course, I made a mistake. 4-3 in ZvZ will be so good)) an it will be for 2 hours . if in TvZ will be 4-3 it will be about 4 hours eOn, are you worried about yours today? for zergs? ))) u want ZvZ final?Yes i think Soma going to beat Light.people think cuz light won in KSL he is gonna win this time.imo right now Soma is the 2 best zerg player.and better than Light aswell .Lets no forget Soma changed zvt meta from 3h to 2h muta in recent times. | ||
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ChriS-X
Malaysia1374 Posts
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EsportsJohn
United States4883 Posts
On April 14 2020 18:29 Amanebak wrote: Show nested quote + On April 14 2020 18:11 BLinD-RawR wrote: On April 14 2020 17:44 Amanebak wrote: No wise words from BLinD-RawR about protoss... What? Well I thought your second post in Ro8 group D thread was "fuck protoss", I hoped to find something similar here too. But I checked the thread again and found it wasn't there. My apologies. Here you go, my man. https://tl.net/forum/brood-war/558623-asl9-ro4-preview-the-best-matchup-on-earth#10 | ||
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Sawamura
Malaysia7602 Posts
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konadora
Singapore66359 Posts
light: "i'll let you meet flash in a couple of days' time" | ||
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konadora
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konadora
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EsportsJohn
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konadora
Singapore66359 Posts
scary combo but soma needs another base | ||
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Uldridge
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konadora
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Garrl
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ChriS-X
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B-) | ||
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konadora
Singapore66359 Posts
light was so fucking fast with his aggro | ||
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prosatan
Romania8703 Posts
GG 1-0 | ||
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gngfn
United States1726 Posts
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BLinD-RawR
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Sawamura
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EsportsJohn
United States4883 Posts
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Uldridge
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Dante08
Singapore4148 Posts
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Miragee
8660 Posts
On April 14 2020 19:38 konadora wrote: light is dropping non-stop Those drops man, he shredded Soma.... | ||
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GTR
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TaardadAiel
Bulgaria750 Posts
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ChriS-X
Malaysia1374 Posts
On April 14 2020 19:40 GTR wrote: vintage light there. now he just needs to go 2port wraith | ||
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weiliem
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konadora
Singapore66359 Posts
On April 14 2020 19:39 Sawamura wrote: I seriously thought light is kind of a goner but damn those firebats are pretty good under dark swarm. always felt like terran players underutilised firebats | ||
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[sc1f]eonzerg
Belgium6872 Posts
On April 14 2020 19:39 EsportsJohn wrote: Welp, going hydras is a great way to throw a huge advantage. he had a good amount of muta losses and from the all the enganges only 4 mutas survive.he also knew he will stay on 3 gazes a long time.defending a 4 gaz on mp is not easy.hydra lurk defiler is a solid build bro.all in all light played really solid. | ||
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Sawamura
Malaysia7602 Posts
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GTR
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SlayerS_BunkiE
Canada1715 Posts
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razorsuKe
Canada2006 Posts
even if he did kill the drop, literally the only way for T to improve his position is more drops and multiple locations. he should have bit the bullet and spend that money on defense at those key locations. i wouldn't even rely on patrolling scourge at that point, light will probably find a way in. seriously just play noob style and put lurks and maybe even sunk it, he was in a position to afford it. | ||
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kerpal
United Kingdom2695 Posts
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Garrl
Scotland1977 Posts
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EsportsJohn
United States4883 Posts
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Dangermousecatdog
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konadora
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prosatan
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Dante08
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konadora
Singapore66359 Posts
holy shit | ||
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TaardadAiel
Bulgaria750 Posts
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Dangermousecatdog
United Kingdom7084 Posts
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BLinD-RawR
ALLEYCAT BLUES50898 Posts
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EsportsJohn
United States4883 Posts
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konadora
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Vindicare605
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razorsuKe
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prosatan
Romania8703 Posts
I RETREAT EVERYTHING I SAID IN THE MATCH SOMA VS BISU !!! REMINDED MY OF MY BOY VS FANTASY !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! | ||
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Dante08
Singapore4148 Posts
On April 14 2020 20:02 Dangermousecatdog wrote: That could had gone really badly for Soma what with that chokepoint and almost the medic wall being formed on the rear. Think he would have been ok nonetheless because of the ensares + ultra speed finishing | ||
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VioleTAK
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atrox_
United Kingdom1711 Posts
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Dangermousecatdog
United Kingdom7084 Posts
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srj
Canada134 Posts
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Miragee
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Sawamura
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Argonauta
Spain4967 Posts
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Zerghxhx
China25 Posts
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M3t4PhYzX
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DeLoAdEr
Japan527 Posts
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M3t4PhYzX
Poland4258 Posts
On April 14 2020 20:07 Zerghxhx wrote: Game 5! game 3 inc.. chill. still a lot between. | ||
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AttackZerg
United States7499 Posts
On April 14 2020 20:09 DeLoAdEr wrote: this somehow made me remember liquid`drone's game with queens against nada Thank you for the Flashback! | ||
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konadora
Singapore66359 Posts
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Duke_nk
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On April 14 2020 20:09 DeLoAdEr wrote: this somehow made me remember liquid`drone's game with queens against nada Or Soma's game vs Flash a few days back | ||
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Dangermousecatdog
United Kingdom7084 Posts
On April 14 2020 20:05 Miragee wrote: Tbh, Light missmanaged his first push. He almost lost everything and only forced 1 sunk and a few lings. On top of that he lost at least 5 SCVs. Surely that wasn't worth it. He gave Soma free reign over the game. That's true but he wasn't as behind as it seems. He forced a sunken and killed lings, and made the mutas come out later. Soma's mutas didn't do much damage since Soma wasn't going deep into mutas and Light was able to amass a sizeable mnm army for that time. Soma thought Light was going for his 3rd and almost let Light into his nat. Anyways, can you blame people for being excited to see ensanare used well? It's not new, but it's rare. | ||
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prosatan
Romania8703 Posts
On April 14 2020 20:13 konadora wrote: anyone knows that pre-match song? i love it but i'm not sure what it is and i always forget to soundhound it lol This kona ? | ||
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BLinD-RawR
ALLEYCAT BLUES50898 Posts
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prosatan
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AttackZerg
United States7499 Posts
In the hardest matchup in the game (opinion) he doesnt need to rush to quick wins or feel compelled to simply perfect standard builds. He faces the same problems all zergs do and then finds a new way to deal with a nearly 2 decade problem, how to survive zvt after sk terran is out. This approach reminded of that brilliant zerg, Revival. Wasnt he the first first 2 hat muta into 3 base 3 hat manzerg? I doubt any of his innovation will become standard but.... man I am impressed. | ||
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Sonic_md
Moldova278 Posts
all three game was at first one build-order. SOMA GOGO!!! | ||
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konadora
Singapore66359 Posts
On April 14 2020 20:16 prosatan wrote: Show nested quote + On April 14 2020 20:13 konadora wrote: anyone knows that pre-match song? i love it but i'm not sure what it is and i always forget to soundhound it lol This kona ? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1yD20xXSaoE thank you!! | ||
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konadora
Singapore66359 Posts
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EsportsJohn
United States4883 Posts
On April 14 2020 20:04 BLinD-RawR wrote: This better stay 100% yes | ||
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konadora
Singapore66359 Posts
instead of going mutas straight and putting his economy at a disadvantage, he delayed his mutas and strengthened his eco while light invested in the usual muta defense timing this guy is such a joy to watch on a tactical level | ||
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konadora
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Vindicare605
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konadora
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BLinD-RawR
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konadora
Singapore66359 Posts
wow i didnt think soma would lose that, but light made that win happen DAMN | ||
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EsportsJohn
United States4883 Posts
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Miragee
8660 Posts
On April 14 2020 20:19 konadora wrote: looking forward to seeing soma destroy light late game on this map to prove haters wrong that he's not a 2-hatch one-trick :p Or Light just rips through Soma, lol. | ||
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Sawamura
Malaysia7602 Posts
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konadora
Singapore66359 Posts
On April 14 2020 20:29 Miragee wrote: Show nested quote + On April 14 2020 20:19 konadora wrote: looking forward to seeing soma destroy light late game on this map to prove haters wrong that he's not a 2-hatch one-trick :p Or Light just rips through Soma, lol. that didnt age well LOL | ||
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China10252 Posts
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weiliem
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chongu
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Dante08
Singapore4148 Posts
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Disregard
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prosatan
Romania8703 Posts
I predict Light 3-1. At last my LB will be ok today. | ||
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razorsuKe
Canada2006 Posts
whatever he wants to make happen, it happens. that was a 3 location attack that broke 2 locations | ||
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TaardadAiel
Bulgaria750 Posts
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Miragee
8660 Posts
On April 14 2020 20:29 konadora wrote: Show nested quote + On April 14 2020 20:29 Miragee wrote: On April 14 2020 20:19 konadora wrote: looking forward to seeing soma destroy light late game on this map to prove haters wrong that he's not a 2-hatch one-trick :p Or Light just rips through Soma, lol. that didnt age well LOL haha :D To be fair, that was just incredible play by Light I don't think anybody saw coming. Absolutely immaculate. | ||
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Wonk
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Ziggy
South Korea2106 Posts
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Vindicare605
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Vindicare605
United States16121 Posts
On April 14 2020 20:49 Garrl wrote: and he loses all his mutas while building a greater spire WTF WAS THAT If Light comes back from this, Soma really needs to go back and kick himself for that little move. | ||
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VioleTAK
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jjmmtt
Australia995 Posts
Light's Valk micro holy hell! | ||
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alypse
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Wonk
546 Posts
this is intense | ||
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United States16121 Posts
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8660 Posts
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BLinD-RawR
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Katkishka
United States658 Posts
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M3t4PhYzX
Poland4258 Posts
yuck | ||
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M3t4PhYzX
Poland4258 Posts
like hands down, no contest crazy | ||
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Korea (South)3820 Posts
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Belgium6872 Posts
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M3t4PhYzX
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GGs! | ||
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ne4aJIb
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Sawamura
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Katkishka
United States658 Posts
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Miragee
8660 Posts
On April 14 2020 20:55 M3t4PhYzX wrote: terran is just such a disgusting almost un killable race.. yuck IKR? :D I have no idea how Light stayed alive. What an absolute madman. | ||
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ggsimida
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Wonk
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Dangermousecatdog
United Kingdom7084 Posts
On April 14 2020 20:58 ne4aJIb wrote: Why did not Soma focus the starport instead of barracks? He saw the armory, Light would have much less valks. I guess Soma thought he already won and wanted to keep marine count down. | ||
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TaardadAiel
Bulgaria750 Posts
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Starecat
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On April 14 2020 20:57 BLinD-RawR wrote: This poll should only have ONE OPTION. SHITTY FINALS AVOIDED AND WE GOT TWO TVZ. | ||
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China10252 Posts
On April 14 2020 20:58 ne4aJIb wrote: Why did not Soma focus the starport instead of barracks? He saw the armory, Light would have much less valks. A bio blob is his worst nightmare in that situation, he could deal with valks by sniping with scourage. | ||
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Vindicare605
United States16121 Posts
On April 14 2020 21:00 TaardadAiel wrote: Yo dawg I heard you wanted a ZvZ finals so we put a ZvZ in your TvZ semifinals For real, I don't think I've ever seen an air duel in a TvZ quite like that. | ||
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chongu
Malaysia2597 Posts
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M3t4PhYzX
Poland4258 Posts
can't wait! | ||
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Miragee
8660 Posts
On April 14 2020 21:00 Starecat wrote: This poll should only have ONE OPTION. SHITTY FINALS AVOIDED AND WE GOT TWO TVZ. One edgelord confirmed. ^.^ | ||
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BLinD-RawR
ALLEYCAT BLUES50898 Posts
On April 14 2020 21:00 Starecat wrote: This poll should only have ONE OPTION. SHITTY FINALS AVOIDED AND WE GOT TWO TVZ. I could have done it for the whole series. | ||
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konadora
Singapore66359 Posts
this is actually my best ideal finals (because i didnt really want to see flash in finals again, and wanted to see zero in, but also didnt want a ZvZ finals) god i fucking love bw | ||
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BLinD-RawR
ALLEYCAT BLUES50898 Posts
On April 14 2020 21:01 Miragee wrote: Show nested quote + On April 14 2020 21:00 Starecat wrote: On April 14 2020 20:57 BLinD-RawR wrote: This poll should only have ONE OPTION. SHITTY FINALS AVOIDED AND WE GOT TWO TVZ. One edgelord confirmed. ^.^ hey, be nice. | ||
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Disregard
China10252 Posts
On April 14 2020 21:01 konadora wrote: what a nail biter of a last game!! this is actually my best ideal finals (because i didnt really want to see flash in finals again, and wanted to see zero in, but also didnt want a ZvZ finals) god i fucking love bw Soma vs Flash tho, ME WANT NOW | ||
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ggsimida
1156 Posts
On April 14 2020 21:00 Disregard wrote: Show nested quote + On April 14 2020 20:58 ne4aJIb wrote: Why did not Soma focus the starport instead of barracks? He saw the armory, Light would have much less valks. A bio blob is his worst nightmare in that situation, he could deal with valks by sniping with scourage. at the lower ladder where people are shit at valkrie micro, yes. but not at light's level, the fatal error was aiming at the rax. once the guardian pops the rine themselves with no vessel/valks are a joke to deal with | ||
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konadora
Singapore66359 Posts
On April 14 2020 21:02 Disregard wrote: Show nested quote + On April 14 2020 21:01 konadora wrote: what a nail biter of a last game!! this is actually my best ideal finals (because i didnt really want to see flash in finals again, and wanted to see zero in, but also didnt want a ZvZ finals) god i fucking love bw Soma vs Flash tho, ME WANT NOW we get that for 3rd/4th place :D | ||
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Miragee
8660 Posts
On April 14 2020 21:01 BLinD-RawR wrote: Show nested quote + On April 14 2020 21:01 Miragee wrote: On April 14 2020 21:00 Starecat wrote: On April 14 2020 20:57 BLinD-RawR wrote: This poll should only have ONE OPTION. SHITTY FINALS AVOIDED AND WE GOT TWO TVZ. One edgelord confirmed. ^.^ hey, be nice. I was kidding man, chill. How many smilies do I have to make? | ||
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Dangermousecatdog
United Kingdom7084 Posts
Prediction for Zero vs Light. Light makes some valkyries and rolls over Zero. | ||
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Dav1oN
Ukraine3164 Posts
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konadora
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tanngard
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Disregard
China10252 Posts
On April 14 2020 21:03 konadora wrote: wait so if light wins ASL9, he's a dual-leaguer then? He would possibly be the last since KSL doesn't exist anymore lol | ||
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konadora
Singapore66359 Posts
On April 14 2020 21:04 tanngard wrote: I can't believe we are going to see Light vs Zero in a starleague finals. Finally! would never have dreamt of it back when OSL/MSL was around, they were the ultimate individual league chokers lmao crazy ZvT specialist vs crazy TvZ specialist, i'm so excited | ||
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China10252 Posts
On April 14 2020 21:03 Dav1oN wrote: 8k on YT stream + 26k on twitch during this semis, impressive! Easily 40k more combined viewing from Flash/JD/Bisu and others. | ||
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ne4aJIb
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Disregard
China10252 Posts
On April 14 2020 21:07 ne4aJIb wrote: I want to hear Flash's comments on the last game There was like 25k people watching him commentate that game live. | ||
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Dangermousecatdog
United Kingdom7084 Posts
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M3t4PhYzX
Poland4258 Posts
On April 14 2020 21:06 Disregard wrote: Show nested quote + On April 14 2020 21:03 Dav1oN wrote: 8k on YT stream + 26k on twitch during this semis, impressive! Easily 40k more combined viewing from Flash/JD/Bisu and others. so how many all in all? around 80k? that would be just crazy numbers.. very cool | ||
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LemonyTang
United Kingdom428 Posts
Hopefully someone will subtitle the Flash commentary on one of those games! | ||
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att
128 Posts
On April 14 2020 21:15 LemonyTang wrote: Only caught the last two games but really really exciting and amazing play from Light. Hopefully someone will subtitle the Flash commentary on one of those games! This, so much this | ||
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BLinD-RawR
ALLEYCAT BLUES50898 Posts
On April 14 2020 21:29 sixfour wrote: WOONGJIN FUCKING STARS hahahaha I knew it. I knew a woongjin guy would show up with a smug face saying this | ||
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A.Alm
Sweden536 Posts
Starcraft is amazing without slowtoss! (jk i <3 protoss plz dont ban me) | ||
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BLinD-RawR
ALLEYCAT BLUES50898 Posts
On April 14 2020 21:32 A.Alm wrote: Okay game 4 is the most exciting TvZ i have ever HOOOW does light win that game. Also now we have Flash vs Soma & Light vs Zero coming up? Best ASL ever. Starcraft is amazing without slowtoss! (jk i <3 protoss plz dont ban me) oh its ok for you to hate protoss but you have a problem with me? ![]() | ||
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whaski
Finland577 Posts
So good to see classic Sk-terran against swarm! | ||
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A.Alm
Sweden536 Posts
On April 14 2020 22:14 BLinD-RawR wrote: Show nested quote + On April 14 2020 21:32 A.Alm wrote: Okay game 4 is the most exciting TvZ i have ever HOOOW does light win that game. Also now we have Flash vs Soma & Light vs Zero coming up? Best ASL ever. Starcraft is amazing without slowtoss! (jk i <3 protoss plz dont ban me) oh its ok for you to hate protoss but you have a problem with me? ![]() i have been warned before and now i am scared for life | ||
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RowdierBob
Australia13414 Posts
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FlaShFTW
United States10393 Posts
Game 4, wow what a game. Yeah, Soma's fatal error was not killing the starport and instead going after the barracks. Either that or he should've tried to snipe the CC. But overall this game was amazing and Light's valk micro is way better than FlaSh's. | ||
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Bisu-Fan
Russian Federation3339 Posts
Really cool ensnare game but 4 was disappointing how It ended. Either way at least we dont have a zvz final | ||
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Zerghxhx
China25 Posts
On April 14 2020 21:11 M3t4PhYzX wrote: Show nested quote + On April 14 2020 21:06 Disregard wrote: On April 14 2020 21:03 Dav1oN wrote: 8k on YT stream + 26k on twitch during this semis, impressive! Easily 40k more combined viewing from Flash/JD/Bisu and others. so how many all in all? around 80k? that would be just crazy numbers.. very cool About 160K viewers just watched the semi-finals the day before yesterday online, and the game today should be 120K at most | ||
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Amanebak
Czech Republic528 Posts
On April 14 2020 19:02 EsportsJohn wrote: Show nested quote + On April 14 2020 18:29 Amanebak wrote: On April 14 2020 18:11 BLinD-RawR wrote: On April 14 2020 17:44 Amanebak wrote: No wise words from BLinD-RawR about protoss... What? Well I thought your second post in Ro8 group D thread was "fuck protoss", I hoped to find something similar here too. But I checked the thread again and found it wasn't there. My apologies. Here you go, my man. https://tl.net/forum/brood-war/558623-asl9-ro4-preview-the-best-matchup-on-earth#10 Thanks, I thought I made it up. Sad to see Soma lose, but he will learn from this and become even stronger. On April 14 2020 19:47 SlayerS_BunkiE wrote: Anyone else notice that soma was shivering at the end of game1? His hand was shaking like crazy I didn't notice now. But after he beat Bisu, he said he was so nervous that he almost threw up during the last game. And his hands were shaking throughout the interview. | ||
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jomjom
9 Posts
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Piste
6183 Posts
With Zero and Light the finals can't disappoint ![]() btw Tasteless called comsat a "comstat" | ||
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BisuDagger
Bisutopia19343 Posts
On April 14 2020 23:20 FlaShFTW wrote: I think the first 3 games really demonstrated soma's crazy aggro and inexperience. His lack of scourge to deal with the dropships and vessel count was really lackluster. To relate, obviously no Zerg will ever reach peak JD form, but JD would've smacked those 2 drops with 6 lings and 2 pairs of scourge, and defended the 3rd base to prevent the break. Soma's weak point this series can easily be fixed and I have no doubt he will have the scariest TvZ. He really understands the ins and outs of utilizing mutalisk pressure which allowed him to be so greedy with his fast 3rd knowing Light has no chance to attack. Game 4, wow what a game. Yeah, Soma's fatal error was not killing the starport and instead going after the barracks. Either that or he should've tried to snipe the CC. But overall this game was amazing and Light's valk micro is way better than FlaSh's. Agreed. Game 1 he got whooped simply because of his dropship defense. The middle of the map was well contested by both sides until the drops. And Soma not getting the starport was killing me in that last game. If he could relive that game I'm sure he could close it out properly. Also, like you said, Light's valk sliding was just sick. I love how he micro-d two groups of two so efficiently. | ||
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NoS-Craig
Australia3135 Posts
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Alpha-NP-
United States1242 Posts
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ArcadePlus
United States44 Posts
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plast1c
Germany101 Posts
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Ej_
47656 Posts
Here's to hope the finals are not half bad either. | ||
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Deleted User 513418
138 Posts
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SlayerS_BunkiE
Canada1715 Posts
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warandpeaches
16 Posts
What has impressed me about Light this tournament is his uncanny capacity to respond calmly, quickly, and decisively to strategic gambits by his opponents without a hitch. He was comprehensively out-thought both by Stork and here by Soma, but leaned on his mechanical strengths (drop play set one, multi-front attacks set two, air micro and instantaneous worker trades set four) rather than needlessly complicate his game flow manipulation by attempting to pick holes in his opponent's novel strategies on the fly. I don't think Light's solid standard-play prowess will be enough against Queen, however. Queen thrives on shattering rock-solid players at their mineral cores and then poking holes in them with the rock shards. He excels at countering the optimal option selects, rather than executing them. Accordingly, it might be wise for Light to try one or two eight rax plays and one base timings to get ahead of Queen's trickery and big brain. Generally, the dirtier the match is (-cough- set four), the higher Light's chances will be. Queen in six sets. As for Soma...exoatmospheric limit. Truly brilliant timing switch-ups and generally very, very clever play. Very excited to see what he can do from here. If he can iron out his late game decision making (please a-click the starport, mate) and add some more stable three-hatch openers to his repertoire, he's going to be even more special than | ||
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JieXian
Malaysia4677 Posts
On April 14 2020 23:20 FlaShFTW wrote: I think the first 3 games really demonstrated soma's crazy aggro and inexperience. His lack of scourge to deal with the dropships and vessel count was really lackluster. To relate, obviously no Zerg will ever reach peak JD form, but JD would've smacked those 2 drops with 6 lings and 2 pairs of scourge, and defended the 3rd base to prevent the break. Soma's weak point this series can easily be fixed and I have no doubt he will have the scariest TvZ. He really understands the ins and outs of utilizing mutalisk pressure which allowed him to be so greedy with his fast 3rd knowing Light has no chance to attack. Game 4, wow what a game. Yeah, Soma's fatal error was not killing the starport and instead going after the barracks. Either that or he should've tried to snipe the CC. But overall this game was amazing and Light's valk micro is way better than FlaSh's. Good points. Amazing games from both sides! | ||
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MrMischelito
347 Posts
This ASL really has been great overall! I wonder why I haven't seen the 1,1,1 this season. Is this a matter of the map pool? | ||
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sM.Zik
Canada2552 Posts
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MrMischelito
347 Posts
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MrMischelito
347 Posts
On April 15 2020 05:10 sM.Zik wrote: Awesome series and possibly the best ASL we had so far. So happy for Light, there is no contest that he has the best TvZ right now. And we're going to have Flash vs Soma and Light vs Zero? God damn this is fantastic. I predict 3-2 for FlaSh and 3-2 for Light or 4-2 if its Bo7, I Jaehoon. I am just happy to see Flash play again. I don't really care if it's the Grand Finals or 3rd/4th place. Although, it did hurt a bit when Flash lost in Game 5 in the last series... | ||
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MrMischelito
347 Posts
On April 14 2020 23:57 Piste wrote: Light showed he cant be tricked to lose a bo5. Well deserved win by stronger play and stronger player. good games! With Zero and Light the finals can't disappoint ![]() btw Tasteless called comsat a "comstat" Both call it comstat, always - COMsat STATion, I guess... I also prefer comsat... | ||
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Incomplete..ReV
Norway646 Posts
The decision making of Light was just insane! What a series to have experienced watching. Now I can't wait for the finals :-D | ||
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Xxio
Canada5565 Posts
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Lazyer
United States371 Posts
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EsportsJohn
United States4883 Posts
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BisuDagger
Bisutopia19343 Posts
On April 15 2020 06:20 EsportsJohn wrote: That series showed the use of every single T and Z unit except for the ghost. How sick. Battle cruisers, vultures, and Goliath's were absent too. | ||
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EsportsJohn
United States4883 Posts
EDIT: VoD for anyone who is interested | ||
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soujiro_
Uruguay5195 Posts
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BisuDagger
Bisutopia19343 Posts
On April 15 2020 07:51 EsportsJohn wrote: Oh, tbf I watched a crazy Action vs Light series right before, so my memories might have bled over into the series. Either way, the fact that we saw devourers and queens in TvZ is sickkkk. EDIT: VoD for anyone who is interested https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O1BXE3i06H4 No worries, you're statement still holds true especially compared to the Flash vs Action series where we saw the same unit set every time. | ||
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BigFan
TLADT24920 Posts
Game 2 was pretty awesome with Soma surviving that early mnm poke then using queens with ultras. I think if Soma can work on his late game macro and drop defense (he needs to start getting more scourge out imo (game 1 at least)), he can beat Light imo. He had some great builds overall and made some clever decisions like taking that third below the ramp in game 3, but he needs to go a step further and work on his late game to beat the best TvZer atm. This is what Flash vs ZerO should've been. Also, grats to Light for beating Soma and making the finals. We are now guaranteed TvZ in the finals as well as third place and they both should be interesting matches. Makes me wonder what ZerO will bring to the table and if Flash will use his goliath builds against Soma. | ||
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JieXian
Malaysia4677 Posts
On April 15 2020 10:52 BigFan wrote: Fantastic series overall. I think Soma could've beaten Light if he had better drop defense. He had the advantage in both game 1 and 3, but Light went for lots of drops that Soma should've anticipated and defended. Game 3 was a drop to pull his army then a double bust which while not common, is not unheard of either. He should've realized at the minimum that light will try to bust his third when he dropped because its common enough. Game 2 was pretty awesome with Soma surviving that early mnm poke then using queens with ultras. I think if Soma can work on his late game macro and drop defense (he needs to start getting more scourge out imo (game 1 at least)), he can beat Light imo. He had some great builds overall and made some clever decisions like taking that third below the ramp in game 3, but he needs to go a step further and work on his late game to beat the best TvZer atm. This is what Flash vs ZerO should've been. Also, grats to Light for beating Soma and making the finals. We are now guaranteed TvZ in the finals as well as third place and they both should be interesting matches. Makes me wonder what ZerO will bring to the table and if Flash will use his goliath builds against Soma. imo Flash has dominated enough that he has the right to have fun in his own way | ||
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Starecat
940 Posts
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Azzur
Australia6260 Posts
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Disregard
China10252 Posts
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reincremate
China2216 Posts
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BigFan
TLADT24920 Posts
On April 15 2020 12:23 Disregard wrote: Soma's over aggressiveness with mutas really messed him up on that last game on Polypoid. Flash and JD were confused as hell why he dived on the valks. Can you provide that video and potentially, a small translation? Would love to know the thoughts of other pros on this series. | ||
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Dante08
Singapore4148 Posts
On April 15 2020 10:52 BigFan wrote: Fantastic series overall. I think Soma could've beaten Light if he had better drop defense. He had the advantage in both game 1 and 3, but Light went for lots of drops that Soma should've anticipated and defended. Game 3 was a drop to pull his army then a double bust which while not common, is not unheard of either. He should've realized at the minimum that light will try to bust his third when he dropped because its common enough. Game 2 was pretty awesome with Soma surviving that early mnm poke then using queens with ultras. I think if Soma can work on his late game macro and drop defense (he needs to start getting more scourge out imo (game 1 at least)), he can beat Light imo. He had some great builds overall and made some clever decisions like taking that third below the ramp in game 3, but he needs to go a step further and work on his late game to beat the best TvZer atm. This is what Flash vs ZerO should've been. Also, grats to Light for beating Soma and making the finals. We are now guaranteed TvZ in the finals as well as third place and they both should be interesting matches. Makes me wonder what ZerO will bring to the table and if Flash will use his goliath builds against Soma. Actually game 3 he did have good drop defense for the first drop but he actually over defended because the drop was a bait by Light to attack 2 other locations at once. Game 1 yeah could have defended the dropships better. | ||
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PVJ
Hungary5221 Posts
Man great job, Light! Especially that he was able to close it out by the 4th game. Soma threw that bit when he overdid Guardians, no? That was my hunch. Also, this will be posssibly the best finals and definitely looks the most promising since Flash v Effort | ||
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reincremate
China2216 Posts
On April 14 2020 21:00 TaardadAiel wrote: Yo dawg I heard you wanted a ZvZ finals so we put a ZvZ in your TvZ semifinals lmao | ||
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Barneyk
Sweden311 Posts
On April 14 2020 23:20 FlaShFTW wrote: Game 4, wow what a game. Yeah, Soma's fatal error was not killing the starport and instead going after the barracks. Either that or he should've tried to snipe the CC. But overall this game was amazing and Light's valk micro is way better than FlaSh's. The big "mistake" I saw from Soma in game 4 was missing the bio army going for the 3rd, he was SO close to finding it but Light did take a weird path and stayed further to the left than he needed to be, so the mutas only checked where they should've been. If Soma finds that bio-army he kills it with his muta micro and with the economy and larva from a 3rd base up he completely overwhelms Light. It was crazy to see how calm, cool and collected Light was through all of the situations he was put in, the decision making was crazy on point, and that he did it with such limited information under such pressure was crazy. Light has really stepped up to be a truly great player. | ||
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JieXian
Malaysia4677 Posts
On April 15 2020 17:58 reincremate wrote: Show nested quote + On April 14 2020 21:00 TaardadAiel wrote: Yo dawg I heard you wanted a ZvZ finals so we put a ZvZ in your TvZ semifinals lmao hahahaha I just saw this. So true. | ||
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BisuDagger
Bisutopia19343 Posts
On April 16 2020 00:41 JieXian wrote: Show nested quote + On April 15 2020 17:58 reincremate wrote: On April 14 2020 21:00 TaardadAiel wrote: Yo dawg I heard you wanted a ZvZ finals so we put a ZvZ in your TvZ semifinals lmao hahahaha I just saw this. So true. P recap this tournament( ^ lol, I love that ':'+'Z' turned into that emoticon) Total PvZs: 28 Zerg: 19 wins, 67.8% winrate Protoss: 9 wins, 32.2% winrate Best PvZ: Stork who went 3-1 and all games against Larva Most PvZs: Bisu: 3-4 Biggest Surprise: KH: 2-1 victory over Soulkey Map Ratings (Best to Worst win %): 1. Horizon Lunar Colony 3 0 100% 1. Neo Sylphid 4 1 80% 1. Matchpoin 3 1 75% 1. Escalade 4 2 67% 1. Hitchhiker 1 1 50% 1. Inner Coven 2 2 50% 1. Polypoid 2 2 50% | ||
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