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[ASL9] Ro4 Preview: The Best Matchup on Earth

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[ASL9] Ro4 Preview: The Best Matchup on Earth

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After the best Ro8 ever in ASL, we're quickly approaching the best Ro4 ever in ASL. Both TvZs, we get to see two drastically different versions of the same matchup. On one side, we have the steady, well-rounded, and calculated style of Flash and Zero, and on the other, we have the insane aggression of Soma and Light. The difference between these two matchups will be night and day.

With the complete absence of Inner Coven and Hitchhiker in this week's series, we're going to see more normal games. Both maps have been a blessing and curse, but it looks like we're definitely getting away from cheesy wins to more long-term planning from each player. Either way, it's going to be a great set of games. We're probably going to see every permutation possible of TvZ this week, so strap on your seatbelts and get ready for the ride!



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Flash vs Zero

Going the Distance

I’ve been in this place before. A Bo5 between (T)Flash and (Z)ZerO. where ZerO has all the hope in the world going up against Flash only for the rug to get pulled from under him....

While those are results from a time long ago that it shouldn’t matter today, it bares some context to understand ZerO’s general tournament mindset.


Pros talking about ZerO and his mindset in tournaments
Thanks to jinjin5000 for translation and subtitles!



(T)Flash and (Z)ZerO sponbbang stats as of 11/4/20


Both players have been practicing hard for each other. Looking at their sponbbang stats, both players have been exclusively playing this matchup with various opponents including each other. Their head-to-head this month is 2-1 in favor of Flash, which is unfortunately the story of ZerO in offline tournaments too. Make no mistake, ZerO is one of the best Zergs players of all time, but like the video above says, ZerO has a huge mental block when it comes to playing in these offline tournaments. He has trouble closing out the series, but maybe not all is lost considering how the Ro8 went for Flash too. Maybe he has learned something from Action he could apply.

Flash is coming into this series shaky. That Ro8 match against Action exposed the holes in Flash’s play. It showed that Flash falters if his information and expectations of what his opponent is doing don't match up. Of course, that doesn’t mean Flash’s crisis management is bad. It took Action a lot of work to finish Flash off even when he was ahead because Flash just kept making the most of his units with his limited economy. It should be mentioned that Flash's ability to keep is science vessels alive that series was pretty bad. Hopefully ZerO, who has very good muta and scourge control, can take advantage of that.

Map selection for this series is fairly safe; there’s no need to worry about Inner Coven since its banned. Opening up on Match Point, it's unlikely that ZerO will try to do something similar to what Action did. With a two player map against Terran, you don’t want to get in a split map situation, so we'll probably see a 2-hatch muta build, but a solid lurker opening could be the play based on Flash’s history against them in tournaments. Regardless, the advantage goes to Flash. The next three maps are where ZerO needs to take the series. Horizon Lunar Colony, Polypoid, and Neo Sylphid are all great maps where something similar to Game 1 could play out, especially Neo Sylphid, which is a bit more of a standard map. It's the type of map where you throw your bread and butter builds out. Hitchhiker is the real bust of the season. Nobody wants to play on this map, and it shows. But I do have a sneaking suspicion that if it comes to it, this is the map where ZerO has something prepared for Flash. I have no proof of it, just some form of intuition.


Meanwhile you can watch the Bo9 series between Flash and ZerO from June 2019


All in all, if ZerO sticks to what he normally does and plays his standard game, we’ll get good games and a solid series. These two have a great history of some of the best TvZs you’ll ever see, including the meme worthy game on Polaris Rhapsody where Flash basically built turrets all over his side of the map. I honestly believe that if ZerO somehow pulls it off, it's a bigger upset than if Action beat Flash. While it may not save ZerO from the problem of never winning a championship, beating Flash in a series is just as big of a win.


(T)Flash > (Z)ZerO on (Wiki)Match Point
(T)Flash < (Z)ZerO on (Wiki)Horizon Lunar Colony
(T)Flash > (Z)ZerO on (Wiki)Polypoid
(T)Flash > (Z)ZerO on (Wiki)Neo Sylphid
(T)Flash > (Z)ZerO on (Wiki)Hitchhiker

(T)Flash advances to the Grand Finals 3-1!


Light vs Soma

Eye of the Tiger

On the other side of the bracket, we have another TvZ. In this case, however, it’s less 8 Mile and more Rocky III. Light is still an untested champ, and in my eyes, he hasn’t proven he’s more than one-time champ material because he hasn’t really faced his toughest challenges yet. The recent KSL4 champion has been making splashes lately and stealing the limelight, but there’s a rookie on the block with his number.

In terms of offline results, he’s had arguably easy runs. His ASL run so far has included several TvT wins over weaker Terrans like Mind, ForGG, Mong, and BarrackS, which culminated in a suspenseful (but in my opinion, overwhelming) victory over Stork last week. Despite my initial skepticism in Light’s ability to mix things up, he used a variety of disruptive TvP builds which threw Stork off his game. Ultimately, though, I believe the series was proof that Stork’s brainiac moves were still not enough to cover his depreciation of skill since the Kespa days rather than a measurement of Light’s skill against a worthwhile opponent.

In the KSL, his tournament also moved forward mostly on the basis of beating up weaker Terran players (ForGG and Mind) as well as a victory over Soma. In the final against Rain, he surprised us as well with admirable macro and positioning against a superior opponent. But I think it’s worth noting that Rain was out of shape and rarely played Brood War anymore (as of writing, he’s actually playing SC2 again). A win is a win, but it doesn’t change the fact that Rain had grown complacent.


Light's triumph over the newcomer Soma


Online, things are completely different. Light is still in second place on Sponbbang.com, and even though his win percentage has dropped considerably from March to April so far, he’s still picking up a majority of wins. For the past two months, Light has been the player to beat. His results made him a giant. He dropped the W on practically everyone except for Flash. But realistically, has anyone been able to touch Flash in the last two years since Effort and Bisu left for the military? And in that sense, does Light deserve the same sort of spotlight as Flash? Is he a true Terran champion yet? No.

Likewise, Soma has been on everyone’s mind for the last two months. His online results have been incredible and launched him from low level amateur cheese status to a consistent top 10 player on Sponbbang. In his debut offline performance, he gave Flash a run for his money, and then in the KSL4, he jumped straight to the Ro4 with his unapologetically aggressive ZvP builds. He was stopped cold by Light’s reign of terror, but he didn’t let up in his practice.

Soma’s meteoric rise to the upper echelons of Brood War players is unparalleled in the modern era. A few rookies like BarrackS, Sorry, and MisO have emerged from the woodwork in the last 5 years, but for the most part, we’ve continued to be entertained by the Kespa-era heroes and post-Kespa superstars. But no one since the age of bonjwas can replicate Soma’s trajectory. From a no-name known for cheesing to a serious tournament contender, he is truly an anomaly.

And he’s hungry. He’s been practicing nonstop with aggressive TvZ players like Sorry, Rush, and Flash to get a grip on Light’s ultra-aggro style, and for the most part, he’s had little success with an overall record of 8-11 against those players. For any other player, I might contend that Soma isn’t ready for Light. But if we consider the massive improvement in his play in the course of only a few months, I think it’s very likely that he could shore up his play enough to take on Light this week.

Their styles are both characterized by ultra aggression. I think that both players have been working hard to mellow out their tendency to go ham and establish more solid play, but it doesn’t change the fact that Light and Soma both enjoy really weird low economy games. And whenever we see such aggressive styles clash, we usually end up with some crazy games.

Soma has been struggling as of late against revived 1-1-1 builds which counter his fast-tech preferences. However, as Effort showed us in his masterpiece against Flash in the ASL5, the best way to counter Terran aggression is by just being more aggressive. If he can properly abuse the holes in proactive Terran builds and strike at the right times, he’ll be able to set the tempo in his favor.

While Light has some 1-1-1 tricks in the bag, when I think of his TvZ, my mind always defaults to those fearsome 2-base rally pushes where Light makes a shitton of firebats and literally just ignores lurkers. He’s also quite consistent at setting up busts with up to four dropships after his first two vessels which allow him to ferry forces directly into the main around the lurkers. If Light can comfortably get to the macro machine stage of the game, I have no doubt that his constant pressure will put a heavy strain on Soma’s multitasking.

It’s going to be a crazy series, and I find it unlikely that we’ll get to three bases in more than one game. Light is good, but he can’t get lazy. Soma is looking to get his revenge and make his mark. Who wants it more?


(T)Light > (Z)Soma on (Wiki)Matchpoint
(T)Light < (Z)Soma on (Wiki)Neo Sylphid
(T)Light > (Z)Soma on (Wiki)Escalade
(T)Light > (Z)Soma on (Wiki)Polypoid
(T)Light > (Z)Soma on (Wiki)Horizon Lunar Colony

(T)Light advances to the Grand Final 3-1!







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hiro protagonist
Profile Joined January 2009
1294 Posts
April 12 2020 03:48 GMT
#2
Great write up! Can’t get much better than 2 TvZs with these players for the round of 4. Hoping Zero can pull some magic out and make it close, but, after action showed what he could do to bring Flash to the brink, Flash is gonna come in fully prepared to fight hard. I’m thinking 3-0

Soma and light will be a treat as well, love them both, but will be rooting for Soma as a finals with him and flash would be awesome.
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whylessness
Profile Joined November 2010
United States376 Posts
April 12 2020 03:53 GMT
#3
flash vs soma finals pls
BigFan
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
TLADT24920 Posts
April 12 2020 04:59 GMT
#4
That title. You guys have finally come around to realizing that TvZ is the greatest matchup ever! On that note, the first semifinals is essentially decided. ZerO's mentality is not there to compete with Flash, aka he'll crumble, but I'll agree that maybe, just maybe he can take a single game haha. Light vs Soma is rougher and only because Soma's 2 hatch play is really strong, but he also needs to keep tabs on what Light does at all times. This is obvious when you see their KSL4 series.

Either way, we're in for some great semis and hopefully a TvZ finals too! :D
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StonyDrew
Profile Joined April 2020
United States10 Posts
April 12 2020 05:49 GMT
#5
Personally rooting for zero and light. I disagree with the statement that zero is not mentally there. I’ve heard he typically plays standard and such from the translated video, but I think zero is a creative player. He may not win and is underdog, but to say he may take a game is an understatement because he may actually win,, he probably won’t but I think he deserves more credit even if just to pure motivation alone. I agree flash will play better vs him than action. Action was a wake up call. (I don’t think flash takes anyone lightly he is realistic and has a good mentality one of reasons why he is so good, he is objective and honest and knows if he doesn’t come prepared and ready he will lose, like against effort). Anyway I’ve seen many games where zero has mixed it up and I think he has a good enough understanding to play within unknown and unexpected territory, at least when he is fluid and not paralyzed or whatever by nerves,, an example is in that final game against rush, he won with superior decision making despite being down (yes I think rush allowed a victory but zero was opportunistic and forced the hand and rush crumbled). Anyway judging from zeros recent play I think we will be entertained at least. It seems to me his mentality is better this tournament as well as leading up to it. I think he will change it up some. (Hopefully at least to get flash out of his element like action).
I don’t know the numbers but I believe a good number of zeros exits in tournaments is ZvZ which can be a volatile matchup.

Anyway I’m hoping both are close with another zvt final as well. Very entertaining matchup. But specifically zero vs light. Anyway whoever deserves it deserves it and I wouldn’t mind a tvt even if flash dominates light. I think light can take one or 2 games this time which is a feat in itself given the nature of a mirror matchup vs flash.
ChriS-X
Profile Joined June 2011
Malaysia1374 Posts
April 12 2020 06:08 GMT
#6
On April 12 2020 13:59 BigFan wrote:
That title. You guys have finally come around to realizing that TvZ is the greatest matchup ever! On that note, the first semifinals is essentially decided. ZerO's mentality is not there to compete with Flash, aka he'll crumble, but I'll agree that maybe, just maybe he can take a single game haha. Light vs Soma is rougher and only because Soma's 2 hatch play is really strong, but he also needs to keep tabs on what Light does at all times. This is obvious when you see their KSL4 series.

Either way, we're in for some great semis and hopefully a TvZ finals too! :D

of course TvZ is the best match up. everyone knows Protoss is trash and OP, and anyone who plays Protoss should apologise for playing that race :D
whaski
Profile Joined December 2012
Finland577 Posts
April 12 2020 06:16 GMT
#7
Ultimately, though, I believe the series was proof that Stork’s brainiac moves were still not enough to cover his depreciation of skill since the Kespa days rather than a measurement of Light’s skill against a worthwhile opponent.
LOL lucky Light. I quess Stork going 3-1 against Flash this month shows how far he has fallen. TvZ is Light weakest matchup at the moment and he has losing record against Soma (this month).

Flash is going to play wonky builds and Zero is going to choke out like never before. I hope that I am wrong, but being Zero-fan is so tough...

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StonyDrew
Profile Joined April 2020
United States10 Posts
April 12 2020 06:25 GMT
#8
Against flash best chances in my opinion:
1.Zero
2.Soma
3.good luck Light

Think light over soma however.

If I were zero coach I wouldn‘t focus on outcome winning or losing. I’d advise for him to make it a brawl and bring the fight to him. Mix it up with standard play. Such as standard on 3 maps and other 2 do something such as mass muta on match point to open up and lurker opening into quick defilier on standard map such as Sylphid or something. I don’t care about winning or losing i just want to see you fight and stand toe to toe with the giant and throw punches do something unexpected and fight head to head as well as mix it up. I think zero has the best tools to match flash (in comparison to the rest).
StonyDrew
Profile Joined April 2020
United States10 Posts
April 12 2020 06:46 GMT
#9
Starcraft wouldn’t be the great game it is without Protoss. Who cares if they are easier to play. That gives less talented people a chance to compete and mix it up. The game would be boring without Protoss. In the highest levels it doesn’t matter if Protoss is “easier“ even though they have their own difficulties. The pro scene is evidence that race is not as big a factor as ppl make it out to be. The Protoss trash talk is an excuse and nothing besides. If you r good player of Terran or Zerg why should you care that a lesser player plays Protoss? Because even if it is at least it is a challenge to improve you. You shouldn’t care about outcomes as much as your play and improvement. Because the skill ceiling is not higher than that of Zerg or Terran. If you r the perfect human I think Zerg is strongest,, but who can seriously control all those units realistically? If you could game would be broken. Don’t trash other races because what I truly believe is if you put the effort in you could master any race regardless of your preference. Mine is Zerg Terran Protoss,, but I respect each and judge a player not by his race but by his playstyle and personality which makes brood war great, because regardless of race there is a high skill ceiling within each race and a large amount of room for personal playstyle which brings a large amount of novel interaction between players and matchups,, thus this is the greatest game the world had ever known.
BLinD-RawR
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
ALLEYCAT BLUES50118 Posts
April 12 2020 07:08 GMT
#10
nah dude, fuck protoss
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Shady Sands
Profile Blog Joined June 2012
United States4021 Posts
April 12 2020 07:48 GMT
#11
On April 12 2020 16:08 BLinD-RawR wrote:
nah dude, fuck protoss


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PVJ
Profile Blog Joined July 2012
Hungary5214 Posts
Last Edited: 2020-04-12 08:52:03
April 12 2020 07:52 GMT
#12
Aiur forever but these should be top level, S-rank matches.

Also, I think Flash v Soma in finals
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tanngard
Profile Joined April 2011
Norway1325 Posts
April 12 2020 08:07 GMT
#13
On April 12 2020 15:46 StonyDrew wrote:
Starcraft wouldn’t be the great game it is without Protoss. Who cares if they are easier to play. That gives less talented people a chance to compete and mix it up. The game would be boring without Protoss. In the highest levels it doesn’t matter if Protoss is “easier“ even though they have their own difficulties. The pro scene is evidence that race is not as big a factor as ppl make it out to be. The Protoss trash talk is an excuse and nothing besides. If you r good player of Terran or Zerg why should you care that a lesser player plays Protoss? Because even if it is at least it is a challenge to improve you. You shouldn’t care about outcomes as much as your play and improvement. Because the skill ceiling is not higher than that of Zerg or Terran. If you r the perfect human I think Zerg is strongest,, but who can seriously control all those units realistically? If you could game would be broken. Don’t trash other races because what I truly believe is if you put the effort in you could master any race regardless of your preference. Mine is Zerg Terran Protoss,, but I respect each and judge a player not by his race but by his playstyle and personality which makes brood war great, because regardless of race there is a high skill ceiling within each race and a large amount of room for personal playstyle which brings a large amount of novel interaction between players and matchups,, thus this is the greatest game the world had ever known.

Great comment and great mindset. What makes this game so great is the fact that we have 3 completely different races and 6 matchups. To take out protoss from that equation through constant thrashtalking of them as a race, is ultimately hurting the game itself and peoples enjoyment of it.

Also,

In BSL we have 50% zergs almost every season from ro16 and onwards, yet protoss is OP

Roughly 80% of premier tournaments in BW have been won by either zergs or terran since 2004ish (and when modern BW started to take shape), yet protoss is OP

PVJ
Profile Blog Joined July 2012
Hungary5214 Posts
April 12 2020 09:09 GMT
#14
On April 12 2020 17:07 tanngard wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 12 2020 15:46 StonyDrew wrote:
Starcraft wouldn’t be the great game it is without Protoss. Who cares if they are easier to play. That gives less talented people a chance to compete and mix it up. The game would be boring without Protoss. In the highest levels it doesn’t matter if Protoss is “easier“ even though they have their own difficulties. The pro scene is evidence that race is not as big a factor as ppl make it out to be. The Protoss trash talk is an excuse and nothing besides. If you r good player of Terran or Zerg why should you care that a lesser player plays Protoss? Because even if it is at least it is a challenge to improve you. You shouldn’t care about outcomes as much as your play and improvement. Because the skill ceiling is not higher than that of Zerg or Terran. If you r the perfect human I think Zerg is strongest,, but who can seriously control all those units realistically? If you could game would be broken. Don’t trash other races because what I truly believe is if you put the effort in you could master any race regardless of your preference. Mine is Zerg Terran Protoss,, but I respect each and judge a player not by his race but by his playstyle and personality which makes brood war great, because regardless of race there is a high skill ceiling within each race and a large amount of room for personal playstyle which brings a large amount of novel interaction between players and matchups,, thus this is the greatest game the world had ever known.

Great comment and great mindset. What makes this game so great is the fact that we have 3 completely different races and 6 matchups. To take out protoss from that equation through constant thrashtalking of them as a race, is ultimately hurting the game itself and peoples enjoyment of it.

Also,

In BSL we have 50% zergs almost every season from ro16 and onwards, yet protoss is OP

Roughly 80% of premier tournaments in BW have been won by either zergs or terran since 2004ish (and when modern BW started to take shape), yet protoss is OP



Kudos good comments. I think this lame meme comes from the days where everyone was playing like their first 100 matches or that you could absolutely demolish mengsk campaign as kid? Protoss is so hard, each match such thin razor line, it doesnt really matters that the maximum utility of each of the units is so high if they are all on different ends of the tech tree. Sometimes it all adds up and then it seems so strong but I find it highly odd that everyone here watching as many games as they do dont see that or have that feeling when 2-1 terran punches you at your natural like its a scene from Fist of the North Star or there's a maxed out swarm with swaths of muta flying over half the map being dark swarmed and youre suffocating. So I feel all races can be OP all units and strats and this casino of strengths makes bw forever enjoyable. With that said I think depensing on the day I wake up PvT or PvZ is what I see as the best MU


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Akio
Profile Blog Joined January 2019
Finland1838 Posts
April 12 2020 09:45 GMT
#15
We're in TvZ heaven boys
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ChriS-X
Profile Joined June 2011
Malaysia1374 Posts
April 12 2020 10:53 GMT
#16
On April 12 2020 16:08 BLinD-RawR wrote:
nah dude, fuck protoss

lmao
A.Alm
Profile Joined September 2012
Sweden515 Posts
Last Edited: 2020-04-12 11:20:02
April 12 2020 11:14 GMT
#17
On April 12 2020 16:08 BLinD-RawR wrote:
nah dude, fuck protoss


you racist fuck
whaski
Profile Joined December 2012
Finland577 Posts
Last Edited: 2020-04-12 11:27:33
April 12 2020 11:27 GMT
#18
Whoops wrong thread
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konadora *
Profile Blog Joined February 2009
Singapore66158 Posts
Last Edited: 2020-04-13 09:07:10
April 13 2020 09:06 GMT
#19
uh anyone can fix group B's Ro4 schedule? it should be at 1900 hrs KST on 14th April, not 0200 on 15th April as listed for some reason
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BerserkSword
Profile Joined December 2018
United States2123 Posts
April 13 2020 09:11 GMT
#20
On April 12 2020 15:46 StonyDrew wrote:
Starcraft wouldn’t be the great game it is without Protoss. Who cares if they are easier to play. That gives less talented people a chance to compete and mix it up. The game would be boring without Protoss. In the highest levels it doesn’t matter if Protoss is “easier“ even though they have their own difficulties. The pro scene is evidence that race is not as big a factor as ppl make it out to be. The Protoss trash talk is an excuse and nothing besides. If you r good player of Terran or Zerg why should you care that a lesser player plays Protoss? Because even if it is at least it is a challenge to improve you. You shouldn’t care about outcomes as much as your play and improvement. Because the skill ceiling is not higher than that of Zerg or Terran. If you r the perfect human I think Zerg is strongest,, but who can seriously control all those units realistically? If you could game would be broken. Don’t trash other races because what I truly believe is if you put the effort in you could master any race regardless of your preference. Mine is Zerg Terran Protoss,, but I respect each and judge a player not by his race but by his playstyle and personality which makes brood war great, because regardless of race there is a high skill ceiling within each race and a large amount of room for personal playstyle which brings a large amount of novel interaction between players and matchups,, thus this is the greatest game the world had ever known.


Just stop.

Protoss is not easier to play and Protoss pros are not lesser players.
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