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Miragee
Profile Joined December 2009
8658 Posts
April 07 2020 10:48 GMT
#121
Honestly, Bisu did quite well despite being in a massive disadvantage. Also lol at Artosis saying Chosim surpassed Bisu in supply for the first time this game in the end. Chosim had higher supply earlier and was basically even for a long time. Bisu only managed to pull ahead a bit when he started killing overlords...
BLinD-RawR
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
ALLEYCAT BLUES50864 Posts
April 07 2020 10:48 GMT
#122
Poll: Recommend Bisu vs Soma Game 2?

Yes (21)
 
72%

No (6)
 
21%

If you have time (2)
 
7%

29 total votes

Your vote: Recommend Bisu vs Soma Game 2?

(Vote): Yes
(Vote): No
(Vote): If you have time

Brood War EICWoo Jung Ho, never forget.| Twitter: @BLinDRawR
M2
Profile Joined December 2002
Bulgaria4157 Posts
April 07 2020 10:49 GMT
#123
I havent watched bisu games after his army return, but he is too slow now, like one of his best traits was the multitasking, but he could not even keep up with a fight and harass, hopefully he can get back his abilities soon
Knife kitty, night kitty, put you on a slab. Stealthy kitty, hunter kitty, stab stab stab :-)
Motivate
Profile Joined June 2011
2860 Posts
April 07 2020 10:49 GMT
#124
i think tastosis put a little too much emphasis on the poor scourge flock/a few overlord kills despite soma having a huge economic advantage.
outscar
Profile Joined September 2014
2832 Posts
April 07 2020 10:49 GMT
#125
If Bisu sniped that 4th hydra reinforcements couldn't kill him. I don't think him coming back after this. Next season Bisu, come stronger!
sunbeams are never made like me...
Disregard
Profile Blog Joined March 2007
China10252 Posts
April 07 2020 10:50 GMT
#126
On April 07 2020 19:48 Miragee wrote:
Honestly, Bisu did quite well despite being in a massive disadvantage. Also lol at Artosis saying Chosim surpassed Bisu in supply for the first time this game in the end. Chosim had higher supply earlier and was basically even for a long time. Bisu only managed to pull ahead a bit when he started killing overlords...


Artosis still lost in that 1.5 hr TvT he was playing a few hours ago.
"If I had to take a drug in order to be free, I'm screwed. Freedom exists in the mind, otherwise it doesn't exist."
Athinira
Profile Joined August 2011
Denmark33 Posts
April 07 2020 10:50 GMT
#127
Bisu could have won this one if he went to the third with his Corsairs. All the overlords were there, no spores and all the hydras were on the map. But he kept going to the main
"Science Vessel much? Yeah, i think so!" - Tasteless, 2008
goody153
Profile Blog Joined April 2013
44261 Posts
April 07 2020 10:50 GMT
#128
random unrelated question while watching hydras run over protoss: why doesnt marine-medic not work against protoss ?

they do both have similar have insane dps, range, easily massed, cheap and fast movement ?
this is a quote
weiliem
Profile Joined January 2008
2072 Posts
April 07 2020 10:50 GMT
#129
On April 07 2020 19:40 Disregard wrote:
Think Soma will actually pull this off with Flash? I want some underdog action here but he probably get curb-stomped.

Think u havent watched much of Soma vs Flash.... Think he stands the highest chance against Flash out of the remaining players....
Oppa feeding style
kerpal
Profile Blog Joined June 2009
United Kingdom2695 Posts
April 07 2020 10:50 GMT
#130
that was a crazy build by soma, I don't think i've seen 2 hatch lair into double expand before.
Miragee
Profile Joined December 2009
8658 Posts
April 07 2020 10:51 GMT
#131
On April 07 2020 19:47 Dante08 wrote:
No idea why Bisu didn't go hard for the 4th, he could have killed it.


Yeah that would have been better to go cross map with his second army. I can understand his thought process though and he didn't know for how long the 4th was up. Hard to read and make the correct decision at that moment.
konadora *
Profile Blog Joined February 2009
Singapore66359 Posts
April 07 2020 10:51 GMT
#132
On April 07 2020 19:49 Motivate wrote:
i think tastosis put a little too much emphasis on the poor scourge flock/a few overlord kills despite soma having a huge economic advantage.

the scourge flank fail was what helped bisu even get that far.. it was a pivotal moment
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[sc1f]eonzerg
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
Belgium6868 Posts
April 07 2020 10:52 GMT
#133
On April 07 2020 19:50 goody153 wrote:
random unrelated question while watching hydras run over protoss: why doesnt marine-medic not work against protoss ?

they do both have similar have insane dps, range, easily massed, cheap and fast movement ?

reaver or storm will destroy it rather easily.
Miragee
Profile Joined December 2009
8658 Posts
April 07 2020 10:52 GMT
#134
On April 07 2020 19:50 goody153 wrote:
random unrelated question while watching hydras run over protoss: why doesnt marine-medic not work against protoss ?

they do both have similar have insane dps, range, easily massed, cheap and fast movement ?


It works very well against gateway units. Reavers and storm is what destroys M&M.
Miragee
Profile Joined December 2009
8658 Posts
April 07 2020 10:53 GMT
#135
On April 07 2020 19:50 kerpal wrote:
that was a crazy build by soma, I don't think i've seen 2 hatch lair into double expand before.


It's something out of the Zero/Soulkey book.
goody153
Profile Blog Joined April 2013
44261 Posts
April 07 2020 10:53 GMT
#136
On April 07 2020 19:52 [sc1f]eonzerg wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 07 2020 19:50 goody153 wrote:
random unrelated question while watching hydras run over protoss: why doesnt marine-medic not work against protoss ?

they do both have similar have insane dps, range, easily massed, cheap and fast movement ?

reaver or storm will destroy it rather easily.

Arent hydras kinda squishy as well to reaver/storm ?

Or MM just harder to control against the protoss AOE tools ?
this is a quote
Motivate
Profile Joined June 2011
2860 Posts
April 07 2020 10:54 GMT
#137
On April 07 2020 19:50 goody153 wrote:
random unrelated question while watching hydras run over protoss: why doesnt marine-medic not work against protoss ?

they do both have similar have insane dps, range, easily massed, cheap and fast movement ?

i know this has been answered but important to note hydras have just enough bulk to be able to effectively storm dodge compared to M&M
prosatan
Profile Joined September 2009
Romania8679 Posts
April 07 2020 10:54 GMT
#138
On April 07 2020 19:52 Miragee wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 07 2020 19:50 goody153 wrote:
random unrelated question while watching hydras run over protoss: why doesnt marine-medic not work against protoss ?

they do both have similar have insane dps, range, easily massed, cheap and fast movement ?


It works very well against gateway units. Reavers and storm is what destroys M&M.

Yeap, the are good agains zealots and goons. But against storm or reavers , they are bad
Even against dt! Dt kills marine in one shot. If you are not careful ,you wouldn't even notice
Lee JaeDong Fighting! The only church that illuminates is the one that burns.
Disregard
Profile Blog Joined March 2007
China10252 Posts
April 07 2020 10:54 GMT
#139
On April 07 2020 19:53 goody153 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 07 2020 19:52 [sc1f]eonzerg wrote:
On April 07 2020 19:50 goody153 wrote:
random unrelated question while watching hydras run over protoss: why doesnt marine-medic not work against protoss ?

they do both have similar have insane dps, range, easily massed, cheap and fast movement ?

reaver or storm will destroy it rather easily.

Arent hydras kinda squishy as well to reaver/storm ?

Or MM just harder to control against the protoss AOE tools ?


Trying to spread your marines without getting obliterated by storms or reavers is insanely hard during a fight.
"If I had to take a drug in order to be free, I'm screwed. Freedom exists in the mind, otherwise it doesn't exist."
True_Spike
Profile Joined July 2004
Poland3430 Posts
Last Edited: 2020-04-07 10:56:39
April 07 2020 10:54 GMT
#140
On April 07 2020 19:50 goody153 wrote:
random unrelated question while watching hydras run over protoss: why doesnt marine-medic not work against protoss ?

they do both have similar have insane dps, range, easily massed, cheap and fast movement ?


That is a weird comparison; marine has 40 hp, hydra has 80. Marines are smaller and clump up more.

Storm and reavers obliterate M&M because of this, healing has no effect.

M&M in small numbers is not really that powerful against goon/zeal on its own either (especially once you have speedlots).

Once you do amass a lot of M&M there's plenty of AoE in the game and tons of buffer for it.

Timing pushes with M&M can work in some instances, but it depends on the protoss not scouting it in advance usually.
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