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On January 25 2019 16:27 Shinokuki wrote:Show nested quote +On January 24 2019 16:44 Sero wrote:On January 23 2019 15:44 Shinokuki wrote:On January 23 2019 14:58 jordeady wrote:On January 23 2019 13:38 G5 wrote:
Who is BSL6-Msitua? Reason I ask is he plays like a hacker / stream cheater. It is Sugo. Why do you make such claim though? it ain't sugo. we are suspecting that it may be reaper[pain] or someone unknown who trained for years for this spotlight. sugo said he has to take a break from bw because of his corporate work. So first it flat out isn't Sugo because "we" suspect it's reaper[pain] or someone unknown, and Sugo is taking a forced break from BW due to his corporate work. On January 23 2019 17:07 Shinokuki wrote:On January 23 2019 16:18 G5 wrote:On January 23 2019 14:58 jordeady wrote:On January 23 2019 13:38 G5 wrote:
Who is BSL6-Msitua? Reason I ask is he plays like a hacker / stream cheater. It is Sugo. Why do you make such claim though? Because I played him twice and he looked like he was hacking or stream cheating. Why else would I make that claim? I was streaming at the time, watched the rep on stream, and no one in the chat / stream disagreed. Looks like he is a cheater. cmon man. You can't hack in remastered and there is also an insane stream delay that it doesn't even matter at that point. You lost fair and square to much superior player. Of course he will think you were gonna harrass when he contained you. That person might've had better game sense fair and square. Then, because there's insane stream delay of several seconds, stream cheating doesn't even matter. It's not possible, and G5 just lost to a much superior player fair and square, whoever that may be. Probably some unknown gosu who's been training in secret for years. On January 24 2019 15:04 Shinokuki wrote:
All i know is that sugo never cheats. He has so much pride for his skills that there is no point in cheating for him. Do you think cheating would make him feel good about his skills? I play sugo all the time. He does wild stuff and just blind build orders sometimes. He also makes ninja expo aka "sugo expo" that we make fun of. I guess I understand why some feel like he cheated. He's just that type of player. Now that everyone found out it IS Sugo, you just know that Sugo would never cheat. Because this guy who apparently lied to you about taking a break from BW is full of integrity. So you play him all the time even though he's been working 100 hours a week since the beginning of last year (and did I mention he's busy on weekends too?), but this supposed break from BW due to excessive corporate work is a recent thing, right? Weird, what happened? Did he start working 200 hours a week? It's also interesting how you deny it's Sugo completely, but go on to defend and praise this random unknown whom you have no association with or reason to support without even watching the game. And here's that "we" again. We make fun of his "sugo expos," and he also happens to do random shit all the time, so any unusual plays should be immediately dismissed. Let's also just ignore the evidence from the game that can't be explained away by a preference for odd builds or ninja expos, like his divinely inspired unit movements and obviously feigned scouting. The "we" in your first post and the "we" in your last post imply you're speaking about the same group of people - your group of friends which includes Sugo who play together regularly. Are you sure you didn't know he was Msitua from the start? Really? Because it wasn't that hard for me to figure out, and you're friends with him and play together all the time. Amazing how he was able to fool your entire group into thinking he quit right when he got a new smurf account for BSL. I'm sure you really thought he had stopped playing. Either you're the most gullible person in the world, or your attempt to defend him by lying from the start is pathetically transparent. Tbh it does look inconsistent from what I say here. My original purpose was to hide sugo's identity so that he can go and troll entire foreign bw community with his mysterious BW ID ( I mean its online internet). When that didn't work and this "cheating" escalated entirely to a new level I wanted to defend sugo because I knew he didn't cheat. I guarantee he doesn't cheat. I think most of you don't know he reached D rank in OLD fish 4 years ago when only 3-4 foreigners achieved that at that time. No.. this wasn't the fish where you can easily get C this was when D rank was considered to be 2300 MMR korean level. So he did improve a lot ever since then. He should be able to get 2300 MMR especially on non vpn. I don't get why people are surprised by his mmr tbh. Aside from that, it seems like issue is cleared. Hope there is no further issue.
Where did you get this info from? He wasn't D rank Fish back then lol. Right now I'd consider Sugo to be old D rank or so.
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On January 25 2019 22:29 EndingLife wrote:Show nested quote +On January 25 2019 16:27 Shinokuki wrote:On January 24 2019 16:44 Sero wrote:On January 23 2019 15:44 Shinokuki wrote:On January 23 2019 14:58 jordeady wrote:On January 23 2019 13:38 G5 wrote:
Who is BSL6-Msitua? Reason I ask is he plays like a hacker / stream cheater. It is Sugo. Why do you make such claim though? it ain't sugo. we are suspecting that it may be reaper[pain] or someone unknown who trained for years for this spotlight. sugo said he has to take a break from bw because of his corporate work. So first it flat out isn't Sugo because "we" suspect it's reaper[pain] or someone unknown, and Sugo is taking a forced break from BW due to his corporate work. On January 23 2019 17:07 Shinokuki wrote:On January 23 2019 16:18 G5 wrote:On January 23 2019 14:58 jordeady wrote:On January 23 2019 13:38 G5 wrote:
Who is BSL6-Msitua? Reason I ask is he plays like a hacker / stream cheater. It is Sugo. Why do you make such claim though? Because I played him twice and he looked like he was hacking or stream cheating. Why else would I make that claim? I was streaming at the time, watched the rep on stream, and no one in the chat / stream disagreed. Looks like he is a cheater. cmon man. You can't hack in remastered and there is also an insane stream delay that it doesn't even matter at that point. You lost fair and square to much superior player. Of course he will think you were gonna harrass when he contained you. That person might've had better game sense fair and square. Then, because there's insane stream delay of several seconds, stream cheating doesn't even matter. It's not possible, and G5 just lost to a much superior player fair and square, whoever that may be. Probably some unknown gosu who's been training in secret for years. On January 24 2019 15:04 Shinokuki wrote:
All i know is that sugo never cheats. He has so much pride for his skills that there is no point in cheating for him. Do you think cheating would make him feel good about his skills? I play sugo all the time. He does wild stuff and just blind build orders sometimes. He also makes ninja expo aka "sugo expo" that we make fun of. I guess I understand why some feel like he cheated. He's just that type of player. Now that everyone found out it IS Sugo, you just know that Sugo would never cheat. Because this guy who apparently lied to you about taking a break from BW is full of integrity. So you play him all the time even though he's been working 100 hours a week since the beginning of last year (and did I mention he's busy on weekends too?), but this supposed break from BW due to excessive corporate work is a recent thing, right? Weird, what happened? Did he start working 200 hours a week? It's also interesting how you deny it's Sugo completely, but go on to defend and praise this random unknown whom you have no association with or reason to support without even watching the game. And here's that "we" again. We make fun of his "sugo expos," and he also happens to do random shit all the time, so any unusual plays should be immediately dismissed. Let's also just ignore the evidence from the game that can't be explained away by a preference for odd builds or ninja expos, like his divinely inspired unit movements and obviously feigned scouting. The "we" in your first post and the "we" in your last post imply you're speaking about the same group of people - your group of friends which includes Sugo who play together regularly. Are you sure you didn't know he was Msitua from the start? Really? Because it wasn't that hard for me to figure out, and you're friends with him and play together all the time. Amazing how he was able to fool your entire group into thinking he quit right when he got a new smurf account for BSL. I'm sure you really thought he had stopped playing. Either you're the most gullible person in the world, or your attempt to defend him by lying from the start is pathetically transparent. Tbh it does look inconsistent from what I say here. My original purpose was to hide sugo's identity so that he can go and troll entire foreign bw community with his mysterious BW ID ( I mean its online internet). When that didn't work and this "cheating" escalated entirely to a new level I wanted to defend sugo because I knew he didn't cheat. I guarantee he doesn't cheat. I think most of you don't know he reached D rank in OLD fish 4 years ago when only 3-4 foreigners achieved that at that time. No.. this wasn't the fish where you can easily get C this was when D rank was considered to be 2300 MMR korean level. So he did improve a lot ever since then. He should be able to get 2300 MMR especially on non vpn. I don't get why people are surprised by his mmr tbh. Aside from that, it seems like issue is cleared. Hope there is no further issue. Where did you get this info from? He wasn't D rank Fish back then lol. Right now I'd consider Sugo to be old D rank or so.
I never was a “D player” or claim that from back then. All I can say is, I did “reach” D as Shin mentioned, which is what I also think he tried/meant to say. I recall I had hit very low 1400s on a lucky heater of games. But no, by no means was I a ‘D’ player. I was averaging around maybe 1200-1250 (E) during those old fish days and even getting knocked down to ‘F’ occasionally. Let’s not start anymore crazy assumptions.
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On January 25 2019 22:48 ProtossGG wrote:Show nested quote +On January 25 2019 22:29 EndingLife wrote:On January 25 2019 16:27 Shinokuki wrote:On January 24 2019 16:44 Sero wrote:On January 23 2019 15:44 Shinokuki wrote:On January 23 2019 14:58 jordeady wrote:On January 23 2019 13:38 G5 wrote:
Who is BSL6-Msitua? Reason I ask is he plays like a hacker / stream cheater. It is Sugo. Why do you make such claim though? it ain't sugo. we are suspecting that it may be reaper[pain] or someone unknown who trained for years for this spotlight. sugo said he has to take a break from bw because of his corporate work. So first it flat out isn't Sugo because "we" suspect it's reaper[pain] or someone unknown, and Sugo is taking a forced break from BW due to his corporate work. On January 23 2019 17:07 Shinokuki wrote:On January 23 2019 16:18 G5 wrote:On January 23 2019 14:58 jordeady wrote:On January 23 2019 13:38 G5 wrote:
Who is BSL6-Msitua? Reason I ask is he plays like a hacker / stream cheater. It is Sugo. Why do you make such claim though? Because I played him twice and he looked like he was hacking or stream cheating. Why else would I make that claim? I was streaming at the time, watched the rep on stream, and no one in the chat / stream disagreed. Looks like he is a cheater. cmon man. You can't hack in remastered and there is also an insane stream delay that it doesn't even matter at that point. You lost fair and square to much superior player. Of course he will think you were gonna harrass when he contained you. That person might've had better game sense fair and square. Then, because there's insane stream delay of several seconds, stream cheating doesn't even matter. It's not possible, and G5 just lost to a much superior player fair and square, whoever that may be. Probably some unknown gosu who's been training in secret for years. On January 24 2019 15:04 Shinokuki wrote:
All i know is that sugo never cheats. He has so much pride for his skills that there is no point in cheating for him. Do you think cheating would make him feel good about his skills? I play sugo all the time. He does wild stuff and just blind build orders sometimes. He also makes ninja expo aka "sugo expo" that we make fun of. I guess I understand why some feel like he cheated. He's just that type of player. Now that everyone found out it IS Sugo, you just know that Sugo would never cheat. Because this guy who apparently lied to you about taking a break from BW is full of integrity. So you play him all the time even though he's been working 100 hours a week since the beginning of last year (and did I mention he's busy on weekends too?), but this supposed break from BW due to excessive corporate work is a recent thing, right? Weird, what happened? Did he start working 200 hours a week? It's also interesting how you deny it's Sugo completely, but go on to defend and praise this random unknown whom you have no association with or reason to support without even watching the game. And here's that "we" again. We make fun of his "sugo expos," and he also happens to do random shit all the time, so any unusual plays should be immediately dismissed. Let's also just ignore the evidence from the game that can't be explained away by a preference for odd builds or ninja expos, like his divinely inspired unit movements and obviously feigned scouting. The "we" in your first post and the "we" in your last post imply you're speaking about the same group of people - your group of friends which includes Sugo who play together regularly. Are you sure you didn't know he was Msitua from the start? Really? Because it wasn't that hard for me to figure out, and you're friends with him and play together all the time. Amazing how he was able to fool your entire group into thinking he quit right when he got a new smurf account for BSL. I'm sure you really thought he had stopped playing. Either you're the most gullible person in the world, or your attempt to defend him by lying from the start is pathetically transparent. Tbh it does look inconsistent from what I say here. My original purpose was to hide sugo's identity so that he can go and troll entire foreign bw community with his mysterious BW ID ( I mean its online internet). When that didn't work and this "cheating" escalated entirely to a new level I wanted to defend sugo because I knew he didn't cheat. I guarantee he doesn't cheat. I think most of you don't know he reached D rank in OLD fish 4 years ago when only 3-4 foreigners achieved that at that time. No.. this wasn't the fish where you can easily get C this was when D rank was considered to be 2300 MMR korean level. So he did improve a lot ever since then. He should be able to get 2300 MMR especially on non vpn. I don't get why people are surprised by his mmr tbh. Aside from that, it seems like issue is cleared. Hope there is no further issue. Where did you get this info from? He wasn't D rank Fish back then lol. Right now I'd consider Sugo to be old D rank or so. I never was a “D player” or claim that from back then. All I can say is, I did “reach” D as Shin mentioned, which is what I also think he tried/meant to say. I recall I had hit very low 1400s on a lucky heater of games. But no, by no means was I a ‘D’ player. I was averaging around maybe 1200-1250 (E) during those old fish days and even getting knocked down to ‘F’ occasionally. Let’s not start anymore crazy assumptions.
Must have been done in secret because I recall playing with you, mvp, favian etc back then. No offense, but you weren't anywhere near D lvl back then. You're much better now.. but still. There were only a few D or better foreigners at that time. Michael, Bizzy, Dsaqwe, Eon, Trutacz and Draw ring a bell. I reached D in a few games as well on Aegyo's ID.
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On January 25 2019 16:22 G5 wrote:Since this is continuing and I know many are going to just slam me as someone providing nothing more than allegations / slander (Kingdom's post above would be an example), here are the replays: bwreplays.combwreplays.comMake your own judgments. I have made mine very clear. I don't expect him to get banned from the tournament. This has rarely ever been the case from tournament organizers in the past and don't expect anything different 10+ years later. All I hope for is he stops.
I'm not slamming u personally I think we as an entire community need to do better. Or we will kill this game we love.
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On January 25 2019 23:11 EndingLife wrote:Show nested quote +On January 25 2019 22:48 ProtossGG wrote:On January 25 2019 22:29 EndingLife wrote:On January 25 2019 16:27 Shinokuki wrote:On January 24 2019 16:44 Sero wrote:On January 23 2019 15:44 Shinokuki wrote:On January 23 2019 14:58 jordeady wrote:On January 23 2019 13:38 G5 wrote:
Who is BSL6-Msitua? Reason I ask is he plays like a hacker / stream cheater. It is Sugo. Why do you make such claim though? it ain't sugo. we are suspecting that it may be reaper[pain] or someone unknown who trained for years for this spotlight. sugo said he has to take a break from bw because of his corporate work. So first it flat out isn't Sugo because "we" suspect it's reaper[pain] or someone unknown, and Sugo is taking a forced break from BW due to his corporate work. On January 23 2019 17:07 Shinokuki wrote:On January 23 2019 16:18 G5 wrote:On January 23 2019 14:58 jordeady wrote:On January 23 2019 13:38 G5 wrote:
Who is BSL6-Msitua? Reason I ask is he plays like a hacker / stream cheater. It is Sugo. Why do you make such claim though? Because I played him twice and he looked like he was hacking or stream cheating. Why else would I make that claim? I was streaming at the time, watched the rep on stream, and no one in the chat / stream disagreed. Looks like he is a cheater. cmon man. You can't hack in remastered and there is also an insane stream delay that it doesn't even matter at that point. You lost fair and square to much superior player. Of course he will think you were gonna harrass when he contained you. That person might've had better game sense fair and square. Then, because there's insane stream delay of several seconds, stream cheating doesn't even matter. It's not possible, and G5 just lost to a much superior player fair and square, whoever that may be. Probably some unknown gosu who's been training in secret for years. On January 24 2019 15:04 Shinokuki wrote:
All i know is that sugo never cheats. He has so much pride for his skills that there is no point in cheating for him. Do you think cheating would make him feel good about his skills? I play sugo all the time. He does wild stuff and just blind build orders sometimes. He also makes ninja expo aka "sugo expo" that we make fun of. I guess I understand why some feel like he cheated. He's just that type of player. Now that everyone found out it IS Sugo, you just know that Sugo would never cheat. Because this guy who apparently lied to you about taking a break from BW is full of integrity. So you play him all the time even though he's been working 100 hours a week since the beginning of last year (and did I mention he's busy on weekends too?), but this supposed break from BW due to excessive corporate work is a recent thing, right? Weird, what happened? Did he start working 200 hours a week? It's also interesting how you deny it's Sugo completely, but go on to defend and praise this random unknown whom you have no association with or reason to support without even watching the game. And here's that "we" again. We make fun of his "sugo expos," and he also happens to do random shit all the time, so any unusual plays should be immediately dismissed. Let's also just ignore the evidence from the game that can't be explained away by a preference for odd builds or ninja expos, like his divinely inspired unit movements and obviously feigned scouting. The "we" in your first post and the "we" in your last post imply you're speaking about the same group of people - your group of friends which includes Sugo who play together regularly. Are you sure you didn't know he was Msitua from the start? Really? Because it wasn't that hard for me to figure out, and you're friends with him and play together all the time. Amazing how he was able to fool your entire group into thinking he quit right when he got a new smurf account for BSL. I'm sure you really thought he had stopped playing. Either you're the most gullible person in the world, or your attempt to defend him by lying from the start is pathetically transparent. Tbh it does look inconsistent from what I say here. My original purpose was to hide sugo's identity so that he can go and troll entire foreign bw community with his mysterious BW ID ( I mean its online internet). When that didn't work and this "cheating" escalated entirely to a new level I wanted to defend sugo because I knew he didn't cheat. I guarantee he doesn't cheat. I think most of you don't know he reached D rank in OLD fish 4 years ago when only 3-4 foreigners achieved that at that time. No.. this wasn't the fish where you can easily get C this was when D rank was considered to be 2300 MMR korean level. So he did improve a lot ever since then. He should be able to get 2300 MMR especially on non vpn. I don't get why people are surprised by his mmr tbh. Aside from that, it seems like issue is cleared. Hope there is no further issue. Where did you get this info from? He wasn't D rank Fish back then lol. Right now I'd consider Sugo to be old D rank or so. I never was a “D player” or claim that from back then. All I can say is, I did “reach” D as Shin mentioned, which is what I also think he tried/meant to say. I recall I had hit very low 1400s on a lucky heater of games. But no, by no means was I a ‘D’ player. I was averaging around maybe 1200-1250 (E) during those old fish days and even getting knocked down to ‘F’ occasionally. Let’s not start anymore crazy assumptions. Must have been done in secret because I recall playing with you, mvp, favian etc back then. No offense, but you weren't anywhere near D lvl back then. You're much better now.. but still. There were only a few D or better foreigners at that time. Michael, Bizzy, Dsaqwe, Eon, Trutacz and Draw ring a bell. I reached D in a few games as well on Aegyo's ID.
paper gosus back flaunting his paper gosuness
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You know how I know we have all grown up? Because there isn't 1-2 GIFs on each page depicting someone eating popcorn.
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@kingdom. Don't lump hackers in with stream cheaters.
Steam cheaters = everyone can do
Hackers = ... who can do?
Stream delay helps mitigate stream cheating. Doesn't mean it's alright to stream cheat. Let's all be crystal clear on that.
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On January 25 2019 23:20 TT1 wrote:Show nested quote +On January 25 2019 23:11 EndingLife wrote:On January 25 2019 22:48 ProtossGG wrote:On January 25 2019 22:29 EndingLife wrote:On January 25 2019 16:27 Shinokuki wrote:On January 24 2019 16:44 Sero wrote:On January 23 2019 15:44 Shinokuki wrote:On January 23 2019 14:58 jordeady wrote:On January 23 2019 13:38 G5 wrote:
Who is BSL6-Msitua? Reason I ask is he plays like a hacker / stream cheater. It is Sugo. Why do you make such claim though? it ain't sugo. we are suspecting that it may be reaper[pain] or someone unknown who trained for years for this spotlight. sugo said he has to take a break from bw because of his corporate work. So first it flat out isn't Sugo because "we" suspect it's reaper[pain] or someone unknown, and Sugo is taking a forced break from BW due to his corporate work. On January 23 2019 17:07 Shinokuki wrote:On January 23 2019 16:18 G5 wrote:On January 23 2019 14:58 jordeady wrote:On January 23 2019 13:38 G5 wrote:
Who is BSL6-Msitua? Reason I ask is he plays like a hacker / stream cheater. It is Sugo. Why do you make such claim though? Because I played him twice and he looked like he was hacking or stream cheating. Why else would I make that claim? I was streaming at the time, watched the rep on stream, and no one in the chat / stream disagreed. Looks like he is a cheater. cmon man. You can't hack in remastered and there is also an insane stream delay that it doesn't even matter at that point. You lost fair and square to much superior player. Of course he will think you were gonna harrass when he contained you. That person might've had better game sense fair and square. Then, because there's insane stream delay of several seconds, stream cheating doesn't even matter. It's not possible, and G5 just lost to a much superior player fair and square, whoever that may be. Probably some unknown gosu who's been training in secret for years. On January 24 2019 15:04 Shinokuki wrote:
All i know is that sugo never cheats. He has so much pride for his skills that there is no point in cheating for him. Do you think cheating would make him feel good about his skills? I play sugo all the time. He does wild stuff and just blind build orders sometimes. He also makes ninja expo aka "sugo expo" that we make fun of. I guess I understand why some feel like he cheated. He's just that type of player. Now that everyone found out it IS Sugo, you just know that Sugo would never cheat. Because this guy who apparently lied to you about taking a break from BW is full of integrity. So you play him all the time even though he's been working 100 hours a week since the beginning of last year (and did I mention he's busy on weekends too?), but this supposed break from BW due to excessive corporate work is a recent thing, right? Weird, what happened? Did he start working 200 hours a week? It's also interesting how you deny it's Sugo completely, but go on to defend and praise this random unknown whom you have no association with or reason to support without even watching the game. And here's that "we" again. We make fun of his "sugo expos," and he also happens to do random shit all the time, so any unusual plays should be immediately dismissed. Let's also just ignore the evidence from the game that can't be explained away by a preference for odd builds or ninja expos, like his divinely inspired unit movements and obviously feigned scouting. The "we" in your first post and the "we" in your last post imply you're speaking about the same group of people - your group of friends which includes Sugo who play together regularly. Are you sure you didn't know he was Msitua from the start? Really? Because it wasn't that hard for me to figure out, and you're friends with him and play together all the time. Amazing how he was able to fool your entire group into thinking he quit right when he got a new smurf account for BSL. I'm sure you really thought he had stopped playing. Either you're the most gullible person in the world, or your attempt to defend him by lying from the start is pathetically transparent. Tbh it does look inconsistent from what I say here. My original purpose was to hide sugo's identity so that he can go and troll entire foreign bw community with his mysterious BW ID ( I mean its online internet). When that didn't work and this "cheating" escalated entirely to a new level I wanted to defend sugo because I knew he didn't cheat. I guarantee he doesn't cheat. I think most of you don't know he reached D rank in OLD fish 4 years ago when only 3-4 foreigners achieved that at that time. No.. this wasn't the fish where you can easily get C this was when D rank was considered to be 2300 MMR korean level. So he did improve a lot ever since then. He should be able to get 2300 MMR especially on non vpn. I don't get why people are surprised by his mmr tbh. Aside from that, it seems like issue is cleared. Hope there is no further issue. Where did you get this info from? He wasn't D rank Fish back then lol. Right now I'd consider Sugo to be old D rank or so. I never was a “D player” or claim that from back then. All I can say is, I did “reach” D as Shin mentioned, which is what I also think he tried/meant to say. I recall I had hit very low 1400s on a lucky heater of games. But no, by no means was I a ‘D’ player. I was averaging around maybe 1200-1250 (E) during those old fish days and even getting knocked down to ‘F’ occasionally. Let’s not start anymore crazy assumptions. Must have been done in secret because I recall playing with you, mvp, favian etc back then. No offense, but you weren't anywhere near D lvl back then. You're much better now.. but still. There were only a few D or better foreigners at that time. Michael, Bizzy, Dsaqwe, Eon, Trutacz and Draw ring a bell. I reached D in a few games as well on Aegyo's ID. paper gosus back flaunting his paper gosuness
How you even have the nerve to comment on a thread that turned into stream cheating/hacking accusations is beyond me.
Shouldn't you be commenting on your TT1_banned account?
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I just find it very funny that all the Europeans who commented here either don't care (who are probably going to be in BSL) or simply say "if you care, then set a delay." And then people in NA (who won't be in BSL) are super accusatory and all they can say is "well, we can't 100% prove it but ITS NOT OK TO DO!"
Ok? I don't think anyone is saying it's ok to do that. But if you see the difference in the two cultures, I guess it makes total sense now why Avi-Love can continue to make those NA jokes lol. Anyways, I just find the differences very funny between the two regions. It's the difference in reaction of people who will be in BSL vs. the people who won't be in BSL... seems the latter group cares a lot more.
In short:
You see Europeans post ... "We don't care, set a delay if you're going to complain"
You see NA post ... "BURN HIM AT THE STAKE, WE CAN'T PROVE IT 100%, BUT FUCK HIM, AND FUCK HIM MORE SINCE IT'S SUGO"
Anyways, please carry on.
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I struggle to understand this nemu guys point, he thinks someone better than eon played against him and sandbagged their apm that they can get to 700 with, but said the game didnt lag, and also somehow HE won against this super gosu unknown player. LMFAO
Did i pay effort to fly to europe to play on my account and ladder against you and you want me to admit you beat effort who was boosting me so that you can brag?^^ what is your point sherlock holmes? Are you just eternally salty that i blocked you and spout incoherent gibberish my way to get my attention?
Congratulations on beating whoever you beat but stop trying to message me i'm not interested in whatever youre selling, I care not for your brag that you think you beat someone you claim is better than eon... or maybe youre suggesting eon is boosting me, i really cant work out your riddle.
p.s. youre a trash player and a trash human being^^
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I can vouch for Sugo's D on Fish, it's exactly as he described, just his peak. 85% of his games were against E-ranks.
Aaand I don't think it would be possible to stream cheat snipe any E-rank there :D
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@Sugo. My roots. 2v2, and at high level in foreigner scene for 95% of my BW "years". Many of my closest buds as an outgrowth: Europeans. Europeans who stream 2v2 against other high level 2v2ers. I myself, also streamed 2v2.
ICCUP dies and RE-mastered introduced. 2v2 scene left in the dust. Naturally try 1v1 rank. Make friends in 1v1 scene, primarily NA.
Here's some observations for you.
- 10 years of 2v2 foreigner scene playing with streamers like Madinho, Kenzy, Scan,etc. No delay on any of them mind you. Not once in the 10 years of 2v2 play was there suspicion of users stream cheating. Not once.
- 1 year 3 months of 1v1 rank/streaming. Primarily NA/SA players. Stream cheating becomes a thing.
For context, I'm not judging NA/SA players as being dirty. It's a TINY/HANDFUL of users that are tainting the image. Which is why I want to make it transparent that it isn't alright.
I want to have the same standard/expectation of NA players. Just stop giving me a reason not to.
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On January 26 2019 00:25 CadenZie wrote:
I struggle to understand this nemu guys point, he thinks someone better than eon played against him and sandbagged their apm that they can get to 700 with, but said the game didnt lag, and also somehow HE won against this super gosu unknown player. LMFAO
Did i pay effort to fly to europe to play on my account and ladder against you and you want me to admit you beat effort who was boosting me so that you can brag?^^ what is your point sherlock holmes? Are you just eternally salty that i blocked you and spout incoherent gibberish my way to get my attention?
Congratulations on beating whoever you beat but stop trying to message me i'm not interested in whatever youre selling, I care not for your brag that you think you beat someone you claim is better than eon... or maybe youre suggesting eon is boosting me, i really cant work out your riddle.
p.s. youre a trash player and a trash human being^^
You are helping me build my case honeybun! I have zero interest in anything surrounding you. You are not that interesting and no, this time I won't fall to your level. And I'm definitely not messaging you so you can excuse yourself from my comments. But what I will do since you decided to show your true colors once again is press the issue and forward my replay to the correct people so they can decide whether or not your account has been tampered with! Next time you try to cheat I suggest you think it through better!
Admins - I'm not offended but if I publicly called someone a trash human being I would be LYNCHED and not let entry to any tournament.... Just saying. Double standards are not a good thing.
p.s I guess I wasn't that trash when you started flirting with me 
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On January 26 2019 01:28 IMJIRAIYA wrote:
@Sugo. My roots. 2v2, and at high level in foreigner scene for 95% of my BW "years". Many of my closest buds as an outgrowth: Europeans. Europeans who stream 2v2 against other high level 2v2ers. I myself, also streamed 2v2.
ICCUP dies and RE-mastered introduced. 2v2 scene left in the dust. Naturally try 1v1 rank. Make friends in 1v1 scene, primarily NA.
Here's some observations for you.
- 10 years of 2v2 foreigner scene playing with streamers like Madinho, Kenzy, Scan,etc. No delay on any of them mind you. Not once in the 10 years of 2v2 play was there suspicion of users stream cheating. Not once.
- 1 year 3 months of 1v1 rank/streaming. Primarily NA/SA players. Stream cheating becomes a thing.
For context, I'm not judging NA/SA players as being dirty. It's a TINY/HANDFUL of users that are tainting the image. Which is why I want to make it transparent that it isn't alright.
I want to have the same standard/expectation of NA players. Just stop giving me a reason not to.
You're a retard, I'll just say it now.
1. You say this dumb shit about a "vacuum" playing 3 games
2. You say you played me, knowing it's SuGo, 10+ times, but you want to ignore this.
3. You then use data of just 3 games to make an observation and formulate an opinion that Mitsua only goes 1g every game. Yes, someone whose played Broodwar for 10+ years only goes 1g and has never gone 2g against a Zerg. OK. Why would you ignore all the PREVIOUS data and formulate something based on only 3 data points?
You either need to go back to school, study math/statistics, or something. Not sure.
To Jealous' previous point, you've never been hard countered in your illustrious Starcraft career? Not to mention, one of the games you did beat me with a 5pool, so where was the "Stream cheat" then? Oh, stream cheating only happened the time your 5pool failed, right? Where was that data point in your calculations? And by the way, 1g is perfectly very good against 5pool since I open 9gate. For you to think I always go 1g and still try to 5p shows you're a real moron lol.
And by the way, the reason the "2nd gate" was late or whatever you conjured in your retarded mind, is because I was actually thinking to go 1g 1base tech play and try that out. I haven't even looked at that game once, so I don't even know if it was "late". Funny thing is, even if I went this route, it would've been same outcome... But I recall that I decided to just be even safer and go 2g, so that's why things worked out that way. So bad to have to justify something simple to an idiot who thinks 5p is going to win games. GTFO.
Just stop trying to act all righteous about this "bringing to light" and what not, you sound like a real retard. Do you think I need that to beat you? Stop trying to bring some case about a 5pool in here, it sounds so dumb. Don't try and sit here and use the very small data points you have, ignore the time your 5p won which is another data point you've conveniently ignored, continue to ignore the past 10+ years of SC data where I allegedly never go 2g in a PvZ and only 1g, and then continue to post non sense. Are you still that salty you lost a game where you went 5p? Lol.
I don't even want to argue with anyone in this thread. But out of everyone, you're actually posting the dumbest shit, but you probably think you're posting really intelligent stuff lol. You're posting dumber stuff than this NeMu guy.
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okay good luck with your case^^
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lol, you edited that i flirted with you in your post, thats the worst slander of it all. Why would i flirt with some internet nerd I dont know or care about in the slightest? dream on LMFAO
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On January 26 2019 01:32 NeMu555 wrote:Show nested quote +On January 26 2019 00:25 CadenZie wrote:
I struggle to understand this nemu guys point, he thinks someone better than eon played against him and sandbagged their apm that they can get to 700 with, but said the game didnt lag, and also somehow HE won against this super gosu unknown player. LMFAO
Did i pay effort to fly to europe to play on my account and ladder against you and you want me to admit you beat effort who was boosting me so that you can brag?^^ what is your point sherlock holmes? Are you just eternally salty that i blocked you and spout incoherent gibberish my way to get my attention?
Congratulations on beating whoever you beat but stop trying to message me i'm not interested in whatever youre selling, I care not for your brag that you think you beat someone you claim is better than eon... or maybe youre suggesting eon is boosting me, i really cant work out your riddle.
p.s. youre a trash player and a trash human being^^ You are helping me build my case honeybun! I have zero interest in anything surrounding you. You are not that interesting and no, this time I won't fall to your level. And I'm definitely not messaging you so you can excuse yourself from my comments. But what I will do since you decided to show your true colors once again is press the issue and forward my replay to the correct people so they can decide whether or not your account has been tampered with! Next time you try to cheat I suggest you think it through better! Admins - I'm not offended but if I publicly called someone a trash human being I would be LYNCHED and not let entry to any tournament.... Just saying. Double standards are not a good thing. p.s I guess I wasn't that trash when you started flirting with me
wow how did she flirt with you? this is interesting..
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