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On January 24 2019 16:44 Sero wrote:

So first it flat out isn't Sugo because "we" suspect it's reaper[pain] or someone unknown, and Sugo is taking a forced break from BW due to his corporate work.

Then, because there's insane stream delay of several seconds, stream cheating doesn't even matter. It's not possible, and G5 just lost to a much superior player fair and square, whoever that may be. Probably some unknown gosu who's been training in secret for years.

Now that everyone found out it IS Sugo, you just know that Sugo would never cheat. Because this guy who apparently lied to you about taking a break from BW is full of integrity.


So you play him all the time even though he's been working 100 hours a week since the beginning of last year (and did I mention he's busy on weekends too?), but this supposed break from BW due to excessive corporate work is a recent thing, right? Weird, what happened? Did he start working 200 hours a week?

It's also interesting how you deny it's Sugo completely, but go on to defend and praise this random unknown whom you have no association with or reason to support without even watching the game.

And here's that "we" again. We make fun of his "sugo expos," and he also happens to do random shit all the time, so any unusual plays should be immediately dismissed. Let's also just ignore the evidence from the game that can't be explained away by a preference for odd builds or ninja expos, like his divinely inspired unit movements and obviously feigned scouting.

The "we" in your first post and the "we" in your last post imply you're speaking about the same group of people - your group of friends which includes Sugo who play together regularly. Are you sure you didn't know he was Msitua from the start? Really? Because it wasn't that hard for me to figure out, and you're friends with him and play together all the time.

Amazing how he was able to fool your entire group into thinking he quit right when he got a new smurf account for BSL. I'm sure you really thought he had stopped playing. Either you're the most gullible person in the world, or your attempt to defend him by lying from the start is pathetically transparent.

On January 25 2019 16:27 Shinokuki wrote:


Tbh it does look inconsistent from what I say here. My original purpose was to hide sugo's identity so that he can go and troll entire foreign bw community with his mysterious BW ID ( I mean its online internet). When that didn't work and this "cheating" escalated entirely to a new level I wanted to defend sugo because I knew he didn't cheat. I guarantee he doesn't cheat. I think most of you don't know he reached D rank in OLD fish 4 years ago when only 3-4 foreigners achieved that at that time. No.. this wasn't the fish where you can easily get C this was when D rank was considered to be 2300 MMR korean level. So he did improve a lot ever since then. He should be able to get 2300 MMR especially on non vpn. I don't get why people are surprised by his mmr tbh. Aside from that, it seems like issue is cleared. Hope there is no further issue.

On January 25 2019 20:12 NeMu555 wrote:
Hello everyone. I decided to make an account and try to qualify for this BSL for fun as I usually do. For the record I'm still in the danger zone and might not even get in if I don't grind hard. My experience with the games I have played is abit suspect. I have to point out that I have streamed a big majority of my games with 0 delay and if somebody took advantage of that its my problem(applies to all streamers!) but since I stopped my winrate suddenly became better and I won more often. My skill is relatively the same and has always been for many many years and I'm fortunate to be able to get in decent shape with little play time. The difference was big when stream was off in my personal opinion. And no I didin't play more and suddenly get better because I spend most of my time playing another game I want to become great at. My observation is that people have become much more disrespectful and 90% of them don't even type gg after games, literally 90%! That might not be here or there but what I'm trying to say is my spider senses are tingling that people are not playing fair.
I also thought of a logical simple way people might be manipulating the ranking system. I would say its more than easy for alot of players to make multiple accounts around 2000-2100 with zero to no sweat. Considering the fact you have to wait 500+ seconds and even more in dead hours how hard would it be to play vs your own accounts with a friend? Let that be some food for thought!
I don't intend on wasting my time watching replays or players games for foul play but just from curiosity today I watched a particular game from 4days ago.
The replay I watched was vs BSL6-Cadenzie and the reason I watched it because I saw her have a 28-2 record and over 2220 points(For reference BSL6-Eonzerg has 2190 with 23-3 and he is the best non kor zerg in my opinion). I do not recall ever losing a game vs this individual with ANY race and I struggle getting and staying over 2.2k mmr currently.
We had 9 minute long zvz game in which "she" had 270apm and for a split second in early game her spam got close to 700apm. Now I play pretty fast and I would have a hard time spamming to 700apm.... I do not watch her play but for this particular case I randomly watched 3 zvz games of her last streams and she had about 205apm all of the games. At the end of the game when it was evident that I had won her apm started to slowly but surely drop as if on purpose to get a lower overall apm. This also happened in other certain parts of the game.
We have had issues in the past and for me she is not the most honest person to put it lightly. Maybe she just got lucky with this record and broke her fingers trying to win me cause she hates my guts but.......... I wouldn't put money on that .
All in all I don't like the direction starcraft is going and am personally glad I play less and less.

P.S I don't want this post be a knock on people who won me fair and square in ladder gg's, just my general thoughts on the overall situation . Idk if broodwar chart is available for remastered but will definitely help to bring clarity to false accounts and games played if people are suspicous. Good luck to everyone who qualifies fair!

On January 25 2019 20:36 Hatchet_man wrote:
As far as I know, APM may fly in the sky in the replays if there were lags in-game.

Meanwhile Eon's MMR dropped significantly due to MMR decay (his last game was on Jan 15th)

On January 25 2019 20:50 jordeady wrote:





I find it cute that you think that's Cadenzie! She lives in Korea now. Happily married to a Korean dude named Hongjoo. I wonder how that makes you feel given your history....

On January 25 2019 21:23 NeMu555 wrote:


Well you only support my argument here :D Not quite sure what you mean how it makes me feel given our history... We had a slight online interaction and that sums it up. Her personal life is none of my bussiness.