EPTKRS playoffs Day 1 on 2/7 19:00 KST - Page 2
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On February 07 2018 20:26 Essbee wrote: crazy game, but he should have went for carriers again lol I think he could not afford carriers coz he got behind from early mistakes and used arbiters to try to get back into the game, this is why he went for 2 starports too I think, to catch up on high tech units, due to the early mistakes. | ||
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On February 07 2018 20:32 M2 wrote: I think he could not afford carriers coz he got behind from early mistakes and used arbiters to try to get back into the game, this is why he went for 2 starports too I think, to catch up on high tech units, due to the early mistakes. I see, that make sense  | ||
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On February 07 2018 21:54 M2 wrote: Well I was rooting for the protoss but anyway since protoss doesn't have ace players anymore, terran vs zerg final will be probably way more interesting and unpredictable Why blame it on the skill of protoss players, rather than looking at the mechanics of the game? Forget about tesagi, there should be a word for how hard it is to dominate with protoss. | ||
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On February 07 2018 21:52 tanngard wrote: I have no idea how flash can dominate like that. But even so, arbiters seems to not be enough anymore. I see protoss losing all the time with arbiters. Its like the skill ceiling for arbiter play is much lower than what is the case for controlling a terran army. Which means that terrans have room to develop their skills even further and further, while protoss are stuck with their slow arbiters. It would be really interesting to see some stats on carriers vs arbiters right now. Carriers seems to me to be viable, but they really blow compared to arbiters in entertainment value imo. Nothing better than intense arbiter games, while carrier play either tend to fall flat on its ass or simply roll over goliaths if they reach critical amount (there is some even games though). I'm just bummed out about the state of protoss right now. Dont even get me started on pvz... I am not saying that protoss is equal to terrans and zergs, I also think that the race is a bit underwhelming on a pro level, however, I think that the bigger issue is that protoss no longer has ace players like flash, last, soulkey and larva. Bisu was probably the last one, Stork never managed to really come back, Rain doesnt put effort in it, the rest were always medicore, for pro players I mean. | ||
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On February 07 2018 21:59 M2 wrote: I am not saying that protoss is equal to terrans and zergs, I also think that the race is a bit underwhelming on a pro level, however, I think that the bigger issue is that protoss no longer has ace players like flash, last, soulkey and larva. Bisu was probably the last one, Stork never managed to really come back, Rain doesnt put effort in it, the rest were always medicore, for pro players I mean. Prime jangbi is the best protoss! | ||
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On February 07 2018 21:58 tanngard wrote: Why blame it on the skill of protoss players, rather than looking at the mechanics of the game? Forget about tesagi, there should be a word for how hard it is to dominate with protoss. As I just wrote, I think its both, but we need ace players vs ace players to assess how much protoss as a race is lacking, hard to judge when medicore players play vs Flash. For example in TvZ when we watched Last vs Larva finals we could see more accurately to what extend TvZ is really balanced, assuming that broodwar balance has always been about the best of the best. | ||
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tanngard
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On February 07 2018 21:59 M2 wrote: I am not saying that protoss is equal to terrans and zergs, I also think that the race is a bit underwhelming on a pro level, however, I think that the bigger issue is that protoss no longer has ace players like flash, last, soulkey and larva. Bisu was probably the last one, Stork never managed to really come back, Rain doesnt put effort in it, the rest were always medicore, for a pro players I mean. But you have to ask yourself the question why player slike last, soulkey and larva managed to become ace players. Because they certainly wasn't before? Why isnt rain putting in the effort? | ||
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