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[ATB] Ro8 Day 3: Team Sea vs Team GuemChi - Page 3
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c3rberUs
Japan11285 Posts
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Lucumo
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On February 25 2017 19:58 gngfn wrote: G-Chizzle gonna do it I love the utter silence in this thread as we're all riveted to the game Didn't want to double-post. | ||
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gngfn
United States1726 Posts
On February 25 2017 20:01 c3rberUs wrote: Sea has been involved in the best two games of 2017 so far GEEEEEEEEEEGEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE this Deny, he was not involved in the Larva+free/Light+Miso game | ||
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byj
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c3rberUs
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[[Starlight]]
United States1578 Posts
On February 25 2017 20:01 ZiggyPG wrote: When Flash deals with carriers they all just die, when Sea tries to do that nothing happens to the fleet ;_; Great carrier micro and use of the map by Guemchi... Sea seldom ever able to get the Carriers themselves within Goliath range.  They were mostly just shootin' interceptors, which in the end is a losing game. | ||
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dekibeki
Australia34 Posts
On February 25 2017 20:03 byj wrote: Noob question: why does Sea not get a few wraiths to deal with carriers? carriers can shoot up, there is a chance to cloak the wraiths and try and snipe them, but there were always 3-4 observers with the carriers and is more of a Hail Mary than a legit strat. | ||
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M2
Bulgaria4096 Posts
On February 25 2017 20:03 byj wrote: Noob question: why does Sea not get a few wraiths to deal with carriers? He was kind of short on gas IMO, he opted for late gases on all expansions he took and the map is not really gas friendly overall | ||
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gngfn
United States1726 Posts
On February 25 2017 20:03 byj wrote: Noob question: why does Sea not get a few wraiths to deal with carriers? Wraith strategies are pretty much garbage against Carriers. 1. If the opponent has any detection they all die in seconds. It is very easy for Protoss to have tons of detection when going Carriers because there's nothing else to use the robo for. 2. Carriers have 4 base armor so it's not even like Wraiths do that much damage. 3. Wraiths cost tons of gas that could go to Goliaths instead. 4. To make any significant number of Wraiths you need extra Starports, which you usually won't have in TvP. Sometimes it works as a desperation move but you'd always rather have a critical mass of upgraded Goliaths. | ||
BisuDagger
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FlaShFTW
United States10015 Posts
On February 25 2017 20:03 byj wrote: Noob question: why does Sea not get a few wraiths to deal with carriers? observers are there for cloak and wraiths are literally made of paper. even a carrier without interceptors could smack a wraith to death somehow. | ||
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gngfn
United States1726 Posts
On February 25 2017 20:08 FlaShFTW wrote: observers are there for cloak and wraiths are literally made of paper. even a carrier without interceptors could smack a wraith to death somehow. "PREPARE FOR RAMMING SPEED" | ||
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[[Starlight]]
United States1578 Posts
On February 25 2017 20:05 dekibeki wrote: carriers can shoot up, there is a chance to cloak the wraiths and try and snipe them, but there were always 3-4 observers with the carriers and is more of a Hail Mary than a legit strat. Wraiths do pretty well vs carriers though, even when they're seen. Unless a lot more resources were put into the Carrier fleet than the Wraith one (which happens a lot, and is why ppl think Wraiths suck vs Carriers). Maybe the problem was Sea had already dumped tons of 'antiair money' into Goliaths, so if he buys a big Wraith fleet as well (which he'd have to, GC had a lot of carriers), even if he beats down the Carriers, Gol + Wraith ain't so great as a big part/mainstay of his army vs goons and HTs (the rest of GuemChi's army). (?) But I could be wrong. Maybe Sea just didn't have the gas. | ||
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LittLeLives
United States692 Posts
Was kind of expecting more M&M since he already had invested into it, I even recall the TLnet attack where he used it versus Carriers right on Blue Storm | ||
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Kleinmuuhg
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Sr18
Netherlands1141 Posts
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[[Starlight]]
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LittLeLives
United States692 Posts
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[[Starlight]]
United States1578 Posts
On February 25 2017 20:21 Sr18 wrote: The problem with wraiths is that they have the same anti air dps as goliaths, for nearly twice the cost. When counting in upgrades, goliaths will have higher dps in a normal mech game (where terran will not have gotten air upgrades). This makes goliaths the better choice in most games. Unless the terrain hoses the goliaths, like it sure did this game. Gols are great and cost-efficient, but lack ultimate mobility. Also, IIRC gols do a split antiair attack, which means wraiths actually do a bit more damage vs the carriers' high armor than gols do. | ||
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Lucumo
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