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YoUr_KiLLeR
Profile Blog Joined September 2004
United States3420 Posts
December 13 2006 18:22 GMT
#21
i think its bcuz if you spawn counterclockwise from the terran, its hard to secure a 3rd gas. that plus the ramp you have to go up to get to the middle.
what the fuck do you have to say for yourself now you protoss jackass can you retaliate in any way
SuperJongMan
Profile Blog Joined March 2003
Jamaica11586 Posts
December 13 2006 18:51 GMT
#22
On December 14 2006 00:47 ToT)Testie( wrote:
To protosses.
T vs Z 68:58
P vs T 48:44
Z vs P 51:47

I don't see zergs making half as many threads as you guys. Even when Cultivation period was being played. And that's a zerg graveyard.

A zerg tries to find solutions involving precise timing and strengthening their builds so it is not prone to weaknesses.

A protoss copies a pro build and uses it in the wrong situation and wonders why it didn't work.


I agree except that CP comment and honestly, if you look not at overalls but a bit more specifics, you'll notice Arcadia and Peaks are the protoss' saving grace. Those are considered toss favored maps anyways.

CP = Toss Graveyard. You got it mixed up.
POWER OVERWHELMING ! ! ! KRUU~ KRUU~
Eagleheart
Profile Joined January 2006
Sweden776 Posts
December 13 2006 19:25 GMT
#23
Is it just me or are everyone so fucking obsessed with how balanced maps are?

I mean when people only talk about maps favoring certain races over others, they take away the actual players skill. Wtf is up with that? I'm tired of all this map talk, imba this imba that.
jkillashark
Profile Blog Joined November 2005
United States5262 Posts
December 13 2006 23:58 GMT
#24
Words of wise from Testie hyeong.
Do your best, God will do the rest.
greatmeh
Profile Blog Joined September 2005
Canada1964 Posts
December 14 2006 02:01 GMT
#25
see, all of you who think pvz is super imba, YOU WRONG
Leath
Profile Blog Joined July 2006
Canada1724 Posts
December 14 2006 02:06 GMT
#26
On December 14 2006 00:47 ToT)Testie( wrote:
To protosses.
T vs Z 68:58
P vs T 48:44
Z vs P 51:47

I don't see zergs making half as many threads as you guys. Even when Cultivation period was being played. And that's a zerg graveyard.

A zerg tries to find solutions involving precise timing and strengthening their builds so it is not prone to weaknesses.

A protoss copies a pro build and uses it in the wrong situation and wonders why it didn't work.


Take it from Testie!!!
If anyone in unbiased it would be him, because he play random. You dont get a legit, honest opnion like that everyday.

I fully agree!
(and not because Im Canadian)
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Drowsy
Profile Blog Joined November 2005
United States4876 Posts
December 14 2006 02:30 GMT
#27
Like I always been sayin, zvp isn't imba, protoss players are just bitchy by nature.
Our Protoss, Who art in Aiur HongUn be Thy name; Thy stalker come, Thy will be blunk, on ladder as it is in Micro Tourny. Give us this win in our daily ladder, and forgive us our cheeses, As we forgive those who play zerg against us.
Drowsy
Profile Blog Joined November 2005
United States4876 Posts
December 14 2006 02:32 GMT
#28
On December 14 2006 02:38 zulu_nation8 wrote:
why is longinus so hard for zvt


hard to contain/stall a terran with lurks, terran can hit the non-main gas expoes with tanks, smallish chokes make it hard to break contain. 10 patches main makes 1 base strats strong, I'd expect fast tank to be strong on this map, but I haven't been watching recently and haven't seen anyone do it.
Our Protoss, Who art in Aiur HongUn be Thy name; Thy stalker come, Thy will be blunk, on ladder as it is in Micro Tourny. Give us this win in our daily ladder, and forgive us our cheeses, As we forgive those who play zerg against us.
j0ehoe
Profile Joined September 2006
United States2705 Posts
December 14 2006 04:04 GMT
#29
On December 14 2006 00:47 ToT)Testie( wrote:
To protosses.
T vs Z 68:58
P vs T 48:44
Z vs P 51:47

I don't see zergs making half as many threads as you guys. Even when Cultivation period was being played. And that's a zerg graveyard.

A zerg tries to find solutions involving precise timing and strengthening their builds so it is not prone to weaknesses.

A protoss copies a pro build and uses it in the wrong situation and wonders why it didn't work.


the canadians right. i should copy this quote and paste it and 4 or 5 active threads where P users are whining.

Only communists disconnect.
Night[Mare
Profile Blog Joined December 2004
Mexico4793 Posts
December 14 2006 04:27 GMT
#30
rofl @ longinus, it has to be fixed ;p
Teamliquidian townie
SCNewb
Profile Joined June 2006
Canada2210 Posts
December 14 2006 05:09 GMT
#31
Looking at Longinus's TvZ

haha
Huge iloveOov fan
Last Romantic
Profile Blog Joined June 2006
United States20661 Posts
December 14 2006 05:45 GMT
#32
longinus so imba. Wonder why they kept most imba map and dropped others.

Sin Cult Period was imba T>Z, though not to the degree HoV or Uboat or whatever were. Slight imbalance in favor of T, and it was played twice so oov > july.
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SuperJongMan
Profile Blog Joined March 2003
Jamaica11586 Posts
December 14 2006 08:23 GMT
#33
??? Oov > July ???
It was played twice so Casy > Yellow. That was the only time CP was played twice.
Oov just shut down July 3-0.
POWER OVERWHELMING ! ! ! KRUU~ KRUU~
b_unnies
Profile Blog Joined March 2006
3579 Posts
December 14 2006 09:15 GMT
#34
On December 14 2006 11:30 Drowsy wrote:
Like I always been sayin, zvp isn't imba, protoss players are just bitchy by nature.


They say Protoss is the race for men
Last Romantic
Profile Blog Joined June 2006
United States20661 Posts
December 14 2006 09:56 GMT
#35
On December 14 2006 17:23 SuperJongMan wrote:
??? Oov > July ???
It was played twice so Casy > Yellow. That was the only time CP was played twice.
Oov just shut down July 3-0.


Whoops, got confused there. CP was supposed to be games 1, 5 for oov vs july if it went out to five, though, right?

YellOw T-T He gets screwed by maps really hard. Otherwise he'd have his title. He might even have a golden mouse. Now... well, now he doesn't do much.
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neSix
Profile Blog Joined November 2004
United States1772 Posts
December 14 2006 10:26 GMT
#36
Great stats. I'm going to start quoting this thread in PvZ cry threads. -_-;
MaZza[KIS]
Profile Joined December 2005
Australia2110 Posts
December 14 2006 10:38 GMT
#37
i remember a time when pvz was imba towards p

it all depends on the players and strategies.
I really wanted a bigger opponent, like Nate Marquardt, or King Neptune, or Zeus, or Zeus and Fedor, or Fedor on Zeus's shoulders, and they can both punch but only Zeus can kick.
lykk
Profile Joined December 2006
China38 Posts
December 19 2006 19:34 GMT
#38
Longinus

T vs Z 12:2 *Terran has won five in a row
P vs T 10:5 *Protoss has won three in row
Z vs P 9:4 *Zerg has won two in a row

wtf is up with this map??!

z>>p>>t>>>>>z
gravity
Profile Joined March 2004
Australia2041 Posts
December 19 2006 20:04 GMT
#39
Such a small amount of statistics means nothing about race balance. Especially since we have one really imbalanced map throwing things off big-time.
gravity
Profile Joined March 2004
Australia2041 Posts
Last Edited: 2006-12-19 20:14:27
December 19 2006 20:05 GMT
#40
On December 14 2006 00:47 ToT)Testie( wrote:
To protosses.
T vs Z 68:58
P vs T 48:44
Z vs P 51:47

I don't see zergs making half as many threads as you guys. Even when Cultivation period was being played. And that's a zerg graveyard.

A zerg tries to find solutions involving precise timing and strengthening their builds so it is not prone to weaknesses.

A protoss copies a pro build and uses it in the wrong situation and wonders why it didn't work.

Considering the variance in these stats is at least +-7 or 8ish, ie larger than the gap, these don't prove shit.

edit: also, the most important balance stats are on maps that are re-used a lot, not one-offs that are never used after their first league because they are too wildly imba.
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