EPTOn January 23 2015 05:06 master_soul wrote:
when the ro24 plays ???
when the ro24 plays ???
See the OP. Jan 31st
D (and C-) Ranks Individual Tournament 9 - Page 6
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L_Master
United States8017 Posts
See the OP. Jan 31st | ||
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Qikz
United Kingdom12065 Posts
 Here's my post: On December 20 2014 20:37 Qikz wrote: I just realised I probably need to jump out of this as I'm moving in January and I have no idea when. Sorry ;_; I don't want to mess up a group because I don't know when I'll be available. It's not fair. I'd love to play, but currently I simply just don't have any time which sucks :/ | ||
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L_Master
United States8017 Posts
On January 27 2015 02:26 Qikz wrote: Uh I'm really sorry about this, but it seems you missed my post before in that I can't play in this due to the fact I'm moving at the end of the week. Is there a chance you could get someone to replace me quickly, because I'd hate to think I'm ruining things Here's my post: I'd love to play, but currently I simply just don't have any time which sucks :/ If you're available to play within a week I'm okay with rescheduling the whole group. You'd have to check with the other guys as well. | ||
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Birdie
New Zealand4438 Posts
TL Name: Birdie ICCup Akas: sB.Birdie, Jack[RCDF, I forget the rest but they're all lower Max Rank: C Race/Matchups: ZvX | ||
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Qikz
United Kingdom12065 Posts
This move has been a total annoyance. If it's easier then you can give my spot to Birdie and I'll play next time :> | ||
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L_Master
United States8017 Posts
On January 28 2015 00:35 Qikz wrote: Well I'm not moving now until 3 weeks time so I could probably play, I'll probably be a bit of a walkover though unless I can get a bunch of practice in beforehand and I'll need a reschedule as Saturday we're sorting more packing. This move has been a total annoyance. If it's easier then you can give my spot to Birdie and I'll play next time :> Well, I cannot give it to him outright as other people have asked beforehand, but if you don't play them someone can slot in. So in answer to Birdie, you can show up and if there are no shows (which there usually are) you should be able to join. | ||
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ggrrg
Bulgaria2717 Posts
On January 28 2015 02:08 L_Master wrote: Well, I cannot give it to him outright as other people have asked beforehand, but if you don't play them someone can slot in. So in answer to Birdie, you can show up and if there are no shows (which there usually are) you should be able to join. This sounds fair, but isn't the default time ridiculously early where birdie lives? edit: I believe there were 2(?) people that asked before Birdie. If they can get accomodated and Birdie is the only one left out, I wouldn't mind him taking my spot (of course only if the rest of my group are ok with it and the probable subsequent rescheduling). I will be around at the default time anyway and I could jump in if there are no shows (which is quite likely as you said...) edit 2: Maybe you can waitlist everybody who (has signed up after group selection/) will sign up from now on, and allow them to fill spots for any no shows. | ||
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Qikz
United Kingdom12065 Posts
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arb
Noobville17922 Posts
idk why you would say c- when he is like c+ or something l0l. | ||
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L_Master
United States8017 Posts
On January 29 2015 03:34 arb wrote: lol, rulzboom going to win this entire thing pretty easily i think. idk why you would say c- when he is like c+ or something l0l. He's hit C once afaik and has been in DRTL several seasons. Not to mention he dropped several games in the D/C-RTL pilot league. | ||
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arb
Noobville17922 Posts
On January 29 2015 03:42 L_Master wrote: He's hit C once afaik and has been in DRTL several seasons. Not to mention he dropped several games in the D/C-RTL pilot league. I thought last time he played(last drtl i played in) he went like 9-0 then went to CRTL and went like 9-0 also ? his name just looks off looking at the rest of the players | ||
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Fazers
737 Posts
On January 29 2015 03:34 arb wrote: lol, rulzboom going to win this entire thing pretty easily i think. idk why you would say c- when he is like c+ or something l0l. So true lol | ||
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arb
Noobville17922 Posts
like no one but Artanis is going to stand even a remote chance imo. | ||
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Qikz
United Kingdom12065 Posts
On January 28 2015 02:08 L_Master wrote: Well, I cannot give it to him outright as other people have asked beforehand, but if you don't play them someone can slot in. So in answer to Birdie, you can show up and if there are no shows (which there usually are) you should be able to join. Yeah I think it might be better if you just give my spot to someone else this season. I don't really have the time D: | ||
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L_Master
United States8017 Posts
On January 29 2015 21:53 Qikz wrote: Yeah I think it might be better if you just give my spot to someone else this season. I don't really have the time D: Guess that means tG.EsSence is placed into the group in your spot. | ||
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L_Master
United States8017 Posts
On January 29 2015 04:53 arb wrote: I thought last time he played(last drtl i played in) he went like 9-0 then went to CRTL and went like 9-0 also ? his name just looks off looking at the rest of the players No last time he played was D/C-RTL pilot league. That was a month ago. Also, http://iccup.com/en/starcraft/gamingprofile/RulzBoooM.html Like I had thought, hit C once. Definitely nowhere near C+, usually by that point you can cruise up into yellow territory just dropping a few games, but RulZ is clearly grinding his way up ranks. | ||
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SnowFantasy
4173 Posts
He has eight losses this season so far. Let's go over them individually. One loss to ColdDevil who has an 86% win rate over 93 games this season and no previous season history. ColdDevil was C rank this season once already and C- another time. He's clearly smurfing to troll/beat up on D rankers. One loss to iiN.Winfred a player that is currently over 3700 and was C+ last season with a 65% win rate. One loss to Ty2 - very consistent C+ player. His stats on the DepressedOne ID were 37-7 last season. One loss to 0T_T0_sask - this guy is c- and from his matchlist looks super cheesy (you decide what that means) but he seems able to take games off C players regularly. One loss to By.Movie - literally a progamer (probably the same type of player as 0T_T0_sask) lol. One loss to ozzy. - There's like no information on this guy but looking at his current matchlist he doesn't seem D rank at all. One loss to DL)Zimek - This guy is C+ right now and went 6-2 vs iiN.Phobia another C+ player. Zimek could be B- if he keeps laddering. Final loss to eldrus5000 - 70% winrate player that beat a lot of other players Rulzbooom lost to (such as ColdDevil), he beat Handy several times(was a TSL player and is like 40-10 C+ now), went 3-2 vs radley. TL;DR - Rulzboom is only losing to players that are really fucking good and definitely would "cruise up into yellow territory just dropping a few games" as you put it if he wasn't fortunate enough to run into C+ players so often. Remove all of the losses to C+ or higher players and that leaves two losses to 0T_T0_sask and By.Movie (who he also won a game against). His stats would be 19-2 C-. Stats aside, if you watch a lot of his games they're pretty telling IMO. | ||
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ggrrg
Bulgaria2717 Posts
On January 29 2015 03:34 arb wrote: lol, rulzboom going to win this entire thing pretty easily i think. idk why you would say c- when he is like c+ or something l0l. I have been contemplating if I should play in this league myself, since I believe that I am clearly superior to a lot of the participants. I have mentioned in several DRTL/DRIT threads that I consider the skill gap between a player who can hold C- and one that cannot to be very large (in comparison to 1 or 2 rank skill gap from C rank and above), leaving the weaker player only a miniscule (if any) chance for an upset. This was also the reason why I dropped out of DRTL mid-season. I was sure that there were multiple players who were not weaker than me and even a few that I considered myself the underdog against, but due to the random nature of pairings landslide victories were a regular occurrence, and the off-chance for 1 or 2 even games while having 5-6 stompings seemed neither appealing nor fair. That's why I greatly approve of the format D/C-RTL pilot league, which in most cases offers players a fair chance to win. That being said, I am fairly certain that neither my mechanics nor my game knowledge are anywhere close to C+ level. While I deem myself among the favorites for the title in this tour, I feel that there are 5-6 players who would be on even footing in a boX against me (With half of them I've had recent very sobering experiences; the overwhelming majority being P; obviously I cannot know how many will actually show up) This and the fact that D players will get their own bracket after dropping out from the main tour, made me decide that I wouldn't be breaking the spirit of competition if I were to play here. On January 29 2015 04:53 arb wrote: I thought last time he played(last drtl i played in) he went like 9-0 then went to CRTL and went like 9-0 also ? his name just looks off looking at the rest of the players While neither XRTL stats nor iccup stats offer a very accurate image of one's skill, I feel that hundreds of iccup games allow for a somewhat better indication of skill in comparison to 40 or so TL event games. For accuracy sake, I did go 6-0 in drtl before moving on to CRTL and going 7-1. However, for me to be able to beat players I believe were clearly better than me, I had to put a lot of effort into preparation. For most CRTL games this meant: - getting advice and picking a specific build order for the map and mu (that avoids the late game) - several vs AI games just to select optimal scouting patterns and building placements - 5-15 vs player games doing the same build over and over again - having somebody (almost always dcemberzerg from my team) watch my replays and offer improvements As I said, I do not think that D/D+ players could make any upsets, but I'm not the only player in the tour that represents a seemingly impenetrable wall for them, and they would end up in a D bracket afterwards, anyway. At the same time, some players that have been doing ok at C- level might be able to upset players better than them just like I did in CRTL, given some moderate amount of dedication and preparation. On January 30 2015 06:30 SnowFantasy wrote: ... Stats aside, if you watch a lot of his games they're pretty telling IMO. I dare you to watch all of my PvP wins in the most recent tournaments I've played (your tour, crimson 1 and CRTL 2). You should be able to spot a common theme ^^ Not that I recommend, but if you really want to have a clearer picture of my PvP skill, you can also watch my losses in this matchup in the tournaments mentioned above... I realize that my PvT in your tour might have looked way out of the scope of the D/C-RIT. However, it's my best matchup and I have been vocal about my opinion that PvT in low ranks is an extremely hard uphill battle for the terran. I honestly believe that the terran needs to be mechanically way better than P in order to stand a chance in the late game. On a side note: The player by.movie I went 1-1 against on iccup has a Bolivian IP and thus most likely is not the Korean toss we all love. ----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- As I've said, I believe that there are at least 5 people in the tour who should have at least a 50:50 chance against me. My opinion on 4 of them is based on recent experience. Of course, I might as well be making up bullshit excuses... Anyway, if people really feel that I should not play in the tournament I wouldn't mind having Lmaster exclude me. | ||
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SnowFantasy
4173 Posts
 We can disagree on it but I stand by my statement. | ||
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fearthequeen
United States788 Posts
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