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Artanis[Xp]
Profile Blog Joined December 2005
Netherlands12968 Posts
January 30 2015 13:09 GMT
#121
I think he should be excluded and in absolutely no way is this driven by complete self interest.
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ClosedOpen
Profile Joined January 2015
Czech Republic1 Post
Last Edited: 2015-01-31 08:07:51
January 30 2015 13:32 GMT
#122
HeyGuys, can i sign in? :D
L_Master
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
United States8017 Posts
January 30 2015 20:54 GMT
#123
On January 30 2015 22:32 ClosedOpen wrote:
HeyGuys, can i sign in? :D


Tour is "full" but generally there are quite a few no shows, which means if you show up on the date of play you're quite likely to get a chance to play.
EffOrt and Soulkey Hwaiting!
N.geNuity
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
United States5112 Posts
January 30 2015 21:45 GMT
#124
well whats your id?
iu, seungah, yura, taeyeon, hyosung, lizzy, suji, sojin, jia, ji eun, eunji, soya, younha, jiyeon, fiestar, sinb, jung myung hoon godtier. BW FOREVERR
arb
Profile Blog Joined April 2008
Noobville17921 Posts
January 30 2015 22:53 GMT
#125
On January 30 2015 11:53 ggrrg wrote:
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On January 29 2015 03:34 arb wrote:
lol, rulzboom going to win this entire thing pretty easily i think.
idk why you would say c- when he is like c+ or something l0l.


I have been contemplating if I should play in this league myself, since I believe that I am clearly superior to a lot of the participants. I have mentioned in several DRTL/DRIT threads that I consider the skill gap between a player who can hold C- and one that cannot to be very large (in comparison to 1 or 2 rank skill gap from C rank and above), leaving the weaker player only a miniscule (if any) chance for an upset. This was also the reason why I dropped out of DRTL mid-season. I was sure that there were multiple players who were not weaker than me and even a few that I considered myself the underdog against, but due to the random nature of pairings landslide victories were a regular occurrence, and the off-chance for 1 or 2 even games while having 5-6 stompings seemed neither appealing nor fair. That's why I greatly approve of the format D/C-RTL pilot league, which in most cases offers players a fair chance to win.

That being said, I am fairly certain that neither my mechanics nor my game knowledge are anywhere close to C+ level. While I deem myself among the favorites for the title in this tour, I feel that there are 5-6 players who would be on even footing in a boX against me (With half of them I've had recent very sobering experiences; the overwhelming majority being P; obviously I cannot know how many will actually show up)
This and the fact that D players will get their own bracket after dropping out from the main tour, made me decide that I wouldn't be breaking the spirit of competition if I were to play here.


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On January 29 2015 04:53 arb wrote:
On January 29 2015 03:42 L_Master wrote:
On January 29 2015 03:34 arb wrote:
lol, rulzboom going to win this entire thing pretty easily i think.
idk why you would say c- when he is like c+ or something l0l.


He's hit C once afaik and has been in DRTL several seasons. Not to mention he dropped several games in the D/C-RTL pilot league.

I thought last time he played(last drtl i played in) he went like 9-0 then went to CRTL and went like 9-0 also ?
his name just looks off looking at the rest of the players


While neither XRTL stats nor iccup stats offer a very accurate image of one's skill, I feel that hundreds of iccup games allow for a somewhat better indication of skill in comparison to 40 or so TL event games.
For accuracy sake, I did go 6-0 in drtl before moving on to CRTL and going 7-1. However, for me to be able to beat players I believe were clearly better than me, I had to put a lot of effort into preparation. For most CRTL games this meant:
- getting advice and picking a specific build order for the map and mu (that avoids the late game)
- several vs AI games just to select optimal scouting patterns and building placements
- 5-15 vs player games doing the same build over and over again
- having somebody (almost always dcemberzerg from my team) watch my replays and offer improvements

As I said, I do not think that D/D+ players could make any upsets, but I'm not the only player in the tour that represents a seemingly impenetrable wall for them, and they would end up in a D bracket afterwards, anyway. At the same time, some players that have been doing ok at C- level might be able to upset players better than them just like I did in CRTL, given some moderate amount of dedication and preparation.

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On January 30 2015 06:30 SnowFantasy wrote:

...

Stats aside, if you watch a lot of his games they're pretty telling IMO.


I dare you to watch all of my PvP wins in the most recent tournaments I've played (your tour, crimson 1 and CRTL 2). You should be able to spot a common theme ^^
Not that I recommend, but if you really want to have a clearer picture of my PvP skill, you can also watch my losses in this matchup in the tournaments mentioned above...

I realize that my PvT in your tour might have looked way out of the scope of the D/C-RIT. However, it's my best matchup and I have been vocal about my opinion that PvT in low ranks is an extremely hard uphill battle for the terran. I honestly believe that the terran needs to be mechanically way better than P in order to stand a chance in the late game.

On a side note:
The player by.movie I went 1-1 against on iccup has a Bolivian IP and thus most likely is not the Korean toss we all love.


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As I've said, I believe that there are at least 5 people in the tour who should have at least a 50:50 chance against me. My opinion on 4 of them is based on recent experience. Of course, I might as well be making up bullshit excuses...
Anyway, if people really feel that I should not play in the tournament I wouldn't mind having Lmaster exclude me.

I dunno i just feel like you are going to shit on this entire tournament tbh. But I havent actually been around the DRTL/IT scene in a while now so its pretty difficult to say
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SynC[gm]
Profile Blog Joined October 2008
United States3127 Posts
January 31 2015 03:49 GMT
#126
On January 30 2015 22:32 ClosedOpen wrote:
HeyGuys, can i sign in? :D

Pretty sure he's the same guy that complained about everything over the D/C-RTL thread.

On November 25 2014 10:43 OpenSezame wrote:
hey guys im very disapointed and confused by the fact, that some of the players chose the right to not play PvP, TvZ, ZvP etc etc... thats pretty damn stupid as fuck.. i also dont like ZvZ and nobody gave me right to change my race. / Btw im random, not Z... I think it would be fair enough, just to pick 1 RACE and play with it WHOLE TOURNAMENT, or if you play random, pick always random and tell the oponent as soon as the game starts... saying IM T but if you are T i will play another race is pretty ummm...nooblike...

On November 26 2014 03:13 OpenSezame wrote:
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On November 25 2014 23:36 pebble444 wrote:
On November 25 2014 10:43 OpenSezame wrote:
hey guys im very disapointed and confused by the fact, that some of the players chose the right to not play PvP, TvZ, ZvP etc etc... thats pretty damn stupid as fuck.. i also dont like ZvZ and nobody gave me right to change my race. / Btw im random, not Z... I think it would be fair enough, just to pick 1 RACE and play with it WHOLE TOURNAMENT, or if you play random, pick always random and tell the oponent as soon as the game starts... saying IM T but if you are T i will play another race is pretty ummm...nooblike...


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if you had said something before we play i could have maybe agreed to it but you didn' t say anything. Usually i play P vs random cause theres more chance of pvz or pvt than pvp.
then we could have had a normal game instead of the cheesy hydra bust you pulled off. In a real macro match you would have lost to me.



haha stop crying pebble444 :D:D you lost, so what, its a game. how do you know you would win? it was our first game, noob. except that, i only lost like 3-4 units during the whole game..you suck

On November 26 2014 03:15 OpenSezame wrote:
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On November 26 2014 02:43 Falling wrote:
On November 25 2014 15:53 OpenSezame wrote:
On November 25 2014 13:38 Sentenal wrote:
On November 25 2014 13:35 SynC[gm] wrote:
He uses Zerg, and he was matched against pebble, who plays PvZ, but he does race-pick. Even then... I don't see a huge problem.

He just said "Btw im random, not Z..."...

I imagine the issue between a random vs a racepicker would be the random can't actually random against them, since the other guy plays different MUs depending on what race they get. The guy's english is terrible, so I can't tell if this is actually what hes complaining about, but it doesn't sound like he is complaining about random players.



well if your czech language is as good as my english, you can show me... idiot... ./.

I missed this before, but as you are relatively new to Team Liquid, I would advise you to take a less aggressive approach when communicating on this forum.



and i will say that anytime to anybody again, esp. when some stupid american tries to tell me my english is bad, meanwhile he can only speak english. thats agressive. he cant even say "hello" in czech and still bitching about my english. retard

User was temp banned for this post.

On November 30 2014 23:07 OpenSezame wrote:
Its funny how on 1 side you guys are telling me to grow up and on the other you are spitting insults on me, calling me idiot, asshole, retard etc etc even if i didnt do anything worth that. Seems like you all are just kids who need a target to shoot at, cause u have some personal problems. The only nice response was actually from the guy i played with. Fuck you kids, you can ban me anytime you want, im not interested in playing tournament with bunch of kids like you

User was temp banned for this post.

So there's that...
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art_of_turtle
Profile Blog Joined September 2012
United States1202 Posts
January 31 2015 05:54 GMT
#127
Um my group I hit work around the time, alright if we move it same time on sunday?(sorry got busy with work/school)
Flash should fear Sacsri
DarkNetHunter
Profile Joined October 2012
1224 Posts
January 31 2015 10:50 GMT
#128
On January 31 2015 14:54 art_of_turtle wrote:
Um my group I hit work around the time, alright if we move it same time on sunday?(sorry got busy with work/school)


Yo turtle I can't play Sunday at default time, but if you and icedraco arrange another time I'll just play vs Soul at our default time and then we can figure things out after?

Learn from the mistakes of others. You can't live long enough to make them all yourself.
Dazed.
Profile Blog Joined March 2008
Canada3301 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-01-31 18:18:00
January 31 2015 18:09 GMT
#129
Literally no one in my group has showed up.

edit: waited 15, taking the walkovers unless theres a good reason.
Never say Die! ||| Fight you? No, I want to kill you.
L_Master
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
United States8017 Posts
January 31 2015 18:28 GMT
#130
Please submit all replays to DRanksTours@gmail.com
EffOrt and Soulkey Hwaiting!
art_of_turtle
Profile Blog Joined September 2012
United States1202 Posts
February 03 2015 04:35 GMT
#131
Ice Draco If you don't reply on Tuesday , I'm gonna take W.O.
Flash should fear Sacsri
L_Master
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
United States8017 Posts
February 03 2015 06:33 GMT
#132
Alright I'm going to need some definitely help compiling all this. Can people please post results (spoiler free would be nice) for the groups that they know of.

Pretty sure there were a shit ton of walkovers, so it's quite possible most, if not everyone, that showed up will end up advancing, but I need results to figure out exactly what the situation is.

On the plus side, should be a pretty active tour after that
EffOrt and Soulkey Hwaiting!
Falling
Profile Blog Joined June 2009
Canada11381 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-02-03 06:48:18
February 03 2015 06:39 GMT
#133
+ Show Spoiler [Group D (partial)] +

FS- Rulzboom vs Passafist
FS- Hafnium vs Razefalcon

CB- Razefalcon vs Passafist
CB- Rulz vs Hafnium ??

Neo J- Raze vs ??

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L_Master
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
United States8017 Posts
February 03 2015 07:00 GMT
#134
I should mention including walkovers is relevant, so if a win was a W.O. specifying that would be excellent.
EffOrt and Soulkey Hwaiting!
Pit667
Profile Joined March 2009
Poland130 Posts
February 03 2015 08:12 GMT
#135
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FS- Shiraishi vs Artanis[XP]
FS- Gohan vs evilEye

CB- Gohan vs Shiraishi
CB- evilEye vs Artanis[XP]

Neo J- evilEye vs Shiraishi
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pebble444
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
Italy2500 Posts
February 03 2015 13:09 GMT
#136
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Hollerado vs Pebble
N.genuity vs Hollerado
N.genuity vs Pebble

Dunno the rest of results
"Awaken my Child, and embrace the Glory that is your Birthright"
falconfan02
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
United States231 Posts
February 03 2015 15:07 GMT
#137
On February 03 2015 15:39 Falling wrote:
+ Show Spoiler [Group D (partial)] +

FS- Rulzboom vs Passafist
FS- Hafnium vs Razefalcon

CB- Razefalcon vs Passafist
CB- Rulz vs Hafnium ??

Neo J- Raze vs ??



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Hafnium > Rulz on CB, then Rulz > Falcon on Jade
Artanis[Xp]
Profile Blog Joined December 2005
Netherlands12968 Posts
February 03 2015 15:13 GMT
#138
On February 03 2015 17:12 Pit667 wrote:
+ Show Spoiler [Group B] +

FS- Shiraishi vs Artanis[XP]
FS- Gohan vs evilEye

CB- Gohan vs Shiraishi
CB- evilEye vs Artanis[XP]

Neo J- evilEye vs Shiraishi

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I think the level of play of my opponents was pretty high. Props to Shiraishi and EvilEye for playing well.
Dazed.
Profile Blog Joined March 2008
Canada3301 Posts
February 03 2015 18:12 GMT
#139
Group C Results:

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Dazed: two walk over wins, no one else showed up at all.
Never say Die! ||| Fight you? No, I want to kill you.
DsT-Napoleon
Profile Joined May 2013
38 Posts
February 03 2015 20:04 GMT
#140
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@dazed: i showed up but you had already left TT
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