Im surprised this thread hasn't started yet! CJ Media SuperFight 3 this Friday. Dec 1st Friday 18:00 (Korean Time)
From what ive gathered, it will be taking place in a soccer stadium so perhaps thats why we are being molested with soccer stuff at the outset of this glorious historic matchup.
First Match EA Sports Fifa Soccer Match between China and South Korea...dont ask questions, we know it has nothing to do with starcraft. We all know Winning 11 is better + Show Spoiler +
Korea > China 1:0
My Prediction= SKT1 and MagicNs vs STX Soul and MBC Hero in a soccer match of monsterous proportions. JulyZerg better loose some weight before friday...This was sarcasm....some people didn't gather that.
Warm Up Match TossGirl vs Jju Tau Cross Longinus Blitz + Show Spoiler +
Jju > TossGirl 2:0 (like we thought it would be different :p
After basically every pro denied her a match up, Jju agreed to face his former Soul teammate. If he wins, he gets a bunch of cash and a lap dance (unconfirmed)
Main Match (bo5) Nada (Genius) vs Savior (Maestro) Arcadia II Arkanoid Blitz Tau Cross Arcadia II + Show Spoiler +
Savior > Nada 3:1
Savior has basically massacred anything that comes in his way for the last 8 million fights taking the Pringles Season 2 MSL Finals...again. Nada after securing the Golden Mouse and winning Shinhan Bank OSL Season 2 has suffered a few Pro League losses....will he be able to pull through?
Whats up for Grabs? Bragging rights of being the best progamer on the scene right now!! A but load of cash (they say they dont care about the money...but it pays for beer, toothpaste and hookers)
At least Half of us think that Nada is the only Terran that can pull this off but it certainly wont be easy...Post your ramblings, thoughts, "FIGHTING!!!" here ______________________
How to watch it! Gom Player will be playing it live.
Poll: CJ SuperFight 3: What will the final score be? (Vote): 3-0 (Nada) (Vote): 3-1 (Nada) (Vote): 3-2 (Nada) (Vote): 3-0 (Savior) (Vote): 3-1 (Savior) (Vote): 3-2(Savior) (Vote): One of them breaks down crying and leaves before the end of the first match
Would you mind updating where to watch (when you find out) and what time? I'm very forgetful of these things and I definitely do not want to miss the main match!
I can't read Korean nor do I have Korean font, but that's a lot of what I am guessing are top finishes in Nada's profile.
On November 28 2006 23:35 Early[SIGHT] wrote: Hey all....new to posting on TL but...won't it probably be on GOMPlayer? the last two superfights were, so I was expecting this one to be as well.
heh, yeah, figured so =) unfortunately I'll be out of town...and can't watch it live..but hopefully the vod's will be up soon afterwards...only one I caught live was boxers....of course. hope nada / savior will be good too.
3-1 savior, for some reason he always gives the first match away last season for no particular reason but in spectacular fashion (as in the Nal_Ra game).
What are you using to watch YellOw's game? It wouldn't be on GOM would it? because that wouldn't make sense if they had two top level games on the same player.....then....can't you just watch em both at the same time? =S although that'd be a little hard to concentrate on...
or then again..just download either like...the day after
Don't forget Nada is a monster too >< I'm not a fan of Nada at all but I want him win so bad right now. Or maybe I just hate Savior. o.O Hope that I can see it online this time :"(
This Savior fanboys bandwagon is getting on my nerves, I like upsets and I hope NaDa will spank his ass ! I don't think there's a single zerg who has ever 3-0ed NaDa on TV since the beggining of his carreer and it's not gonna happen yet
I've always thought Nada was going to win every single game he's ever played. I just can't imagine him losing. Scariest player ever for the few times I'm rooting against him. But Savior's game is probably the most perfectly balanced Zerg I've ever seen. He's so godly and soooo dominating right now. No question, though.. even though Savior has a more perfect record at the moment, Nada is a LOT scarier. AND they're both kings at any match-up. Honestly, how am I expected to choose?
I think Oov is better Terran than NaDa. Specially siding with Boxer, Canada and Midas in the same team, Im sure the brainstorming for terran strategies is phenomenal.
I think Oov has figured out Savior and would be a very interesting match if it ever happened.
I am counting on NaDa winning tomorrow. But if it doesnt happen, Id loooooove to see Oov taking over :D
These series will teach us a lot about tvz and zvt to its full potential at this moment in SC history I bet, but savior will 3-0 NaDa I'm predicting, though each game will be worthy of watching.
On November 30 2006 16:51 We Are Here wrote: so does this mean z is no longer is weak against t? =o and oov hasnt taken a game from ipx yet right?
he won 2-0 savior in WEF, but savior did 2 hatch both times and played really well both times, I guess you can't defeat oov with 2 hatch unless you're july
On November 30 2006 16:44 Kennigit wrote: ...this means i have to get up at 4am ...wait maybe 4:30 cause ill skip the soccer crap
Most likely tossgirl vs jju will start like 2 hours after the posted event time. I mean, the past two superfights took forever before even the first event... but if you want to see their entrance (I'm looking forward to how all the people enter. Hopefully NaDa and SaviOr will have better entrances than last time) then you might have to get up earlier.
I'll be watching from a school computer, but only for an hour. Hoping for a game that starts and finishes within 7:30-8:20 EST (Last Reach v NaDa superfight I just missed the end of game 3). People that see me watch are all like "WTF you freak" though... Hoping for a Savior win, though I'd like for NaDa to take 1 or 2 games to make it interesting.
On November 30 2006 23:11 rA.Hippie wrote: This may be a rather ignorant question but the superfight on GOMTV, will it start where there 3 boxes? Match 1, match 2, Main match etc?
How it was for the superfights before was:
only boxes for the match going on atm.
one box for overall game another box for fpview of one player another box for fpview of second player.
So I could watch boxer vs yellow, boxer's view, and yellow's view at the same time. But I couldn't see previous games from boxer vs savior, for example.
Does anyone reminds the dates of the previous two superfights? It's just seems that Reach vs Nada game was not that long ago ... i thought there should be a month break between events ...
Itll start at 18:00 but give it 10 minutes of introduction,then the Fifa match that ill assume will last 30 min (dont know for sure) then again 10 minutes of introduction plus some 5 minutes of commercials PLUS the interview to the fifa winners.. hopefully Jju will make it fast and 2:0 Tossgirl.. anyway thatll be another 30 minutes and again well have to wait for the interviews and commercials to end, then an introduction for the REAL superfight and the practice game .. probably ill take something like 7 minutes... Give and take well have to wait AT LEAST for an hour and a half to watch IPXSex..
okay i clicked on the middle link between the two flags, and all i get is a Intel Core 2 Dou commerical and that is all, it stops playing i get a yello/orange screen with some text.
yeah this player is really great... if someone can modify it with english menu and interface i will delete my bsplayer,windows media player,vlcplayer etc etc
On December 01 2006 01:41 Da_PlayerX wrote: yeah this player is really great... if someone can modify it with english menu and interface i will delete my bsplayer,windows media player,vlcplayer etc etc
I installed the player 2 times (korean & english version). All you need is the english languages files (ControlIDENG.xml, GomEng.dll, GomWizEng.dll) and the language configuartion file (Language.ini).
Now everything is english except for the TV Menu of course.
On December 01 2006 01:39 Figurehead wrote: player crashes for me as soon as streaming starts anyone else experience that...?
Did for me aswell, I just reinstalled it and am now seeing the stream with the "classic skin" (the right one you can choose during the installation. Seems my comp is too lame for the other one ;/ ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Btw, how to install the player in english language/get the english language files? o.O
On December 01 2006 01:41 Da_PlayerX wrote: yeah this player is really great... if someone can modify it with english menu and interface i will delete my bsplayer,windows media player,vlcplayer etc etc
I installed the player 2 times (korean & english version). All you need is the english languages files (ControlIDENG.xml, GomEng.dll, GomWizEng.dll) and the language configuartion file (Language.ini).
Now everything is english except for the TV Menu of course.
Guys what ever happened to TL time... its not that hard to write "it starts at 2:00 TL time" in the first post... We all have access to TL time rather than havin to google time zones and try to calculate and then be 2h late
Both sides keep making long passes across the field between the 2 wings. This'd look absolutely ridiculous in real life but it seems like a popular tactic in FIFA.
GOALLL 1-0 for the Red Devils (err that's what Korea team's called IIRC)
I've tried everything with that GOM player, keeps crashing when I click the LIVE link, commercials play okay, but live stream crashes the player. Tried all configurations with both korean and english versions now...
On December 01 2006 02:05 Figurehead wrote: I've tried everything with that GOM player, keeps crashing when I click the LIVE link, commercials play okay, but live stream crashes the player. Tried all configurations with both korean and english versions now...
2-1 for China!! A noob goal in my n00b's opinion. All 4 Kor defenders followed one Chinese striker which then left a huge space for the other striker and they had to pay for that immediately.
On December 01 2006 02:12 nothingbutzerg wrote: it works only on main match showing a commercial.it crashes on all others.anyone with the same probl?
same here, using win2k maybe that's the problem. trying mbc stream now but the speed is just ridiculous all I get is average 20kB/s, obviously not enough so it keeps buffering and rebuffering
oh well
and they're just showing commercials on mbc anyway
Also, what they're showing at MBC is OBVIOUSLY NOT superfight, unless there's some other MBC stream, but what I'm watching is just some ordinary FIFA 2v2 game...
On December 01 2006 01:41 Da_PlayerX wrote: yeah this player is really great... if someone can modify it with english menu and interface i will delete my bsplayer,windows media player,vlcplayer etc etc
I installed the player 2 times (korean & english version). All you need is the english languages files (ControlIDENG.xml, GomEng.dll, GomWizEng.dll) and the language configuartion file (Language.ini).
Now everything is english except for the TV Menu of course.
Is there any way to make the GOM Player not make that "click on a link" click noise every 3 seconds? I can't read korean, so I don't know what anything says...I assume it's the content/ads loading each time.
Do I have to click on the match 3 link now, or will is it the same link, after this band plays? I don't wanna risk having the streaming problems some people are if I don't have to.
On December 01 2006 04:07 RoyCe wrote: Lol this is Punk rock in Korea I guess they skipped the whole Ramones, Sex Pistol thing and just went straight to the metro shit LOL
On December 01 2006 04:07 RoyCe wrote: Lol this is Punk rock in Korea I guess they skipped the whole Ramones, Sex Pistol thing and just went straight to the metro shit LOL
On December 01 2006 04:07 RoyCe wrote: Lol this is Punk rock in Korea I guess they skipped the whole Ramones, Sex Pistol thing and just went straight to the metro shit LOL
On December 01 2006 04:12 Chosi wrote: I got 6mbit dsl and still gom is buffering like every 2 seconds, is there anything you can tweak or setup to get this shit working?
On December 01 2006 04:12 Chosi wrote: I got 6mbit dsl and still gom is buffering like every 2 seconds, is there anything you can tweak or setup to get this shit working?
On December 01 2006 04:32 Kwark wrote: These korean ads are getting to me surprisingly effectively. I'm not sure what it is I want to buy, but I really want to buy it.
yeah i have this strong urge to give KTF my money, but i don't know how
GG It was pretty obvious Nada had no chance after that allin scv marine rush failed but he tried to make it interesting with a proxy fac. Unfortunately savior scouted it with his speedling backstab and stopped that too.
Nada seriously fucked up with the SCV / rine rush which basicly cost him the entire game. He sent 12SCVs to attack the sunken and didn't move his marines?
On December 01 2006 04:48 fonger wrote: It's not so much that Nada isn't Boxer, as that Savior isn't Yellow
When Boxer goes all in rush he actually goes all in. NaDa pissed around for a while losing scvs pointlessly and letting Sav make lings. And then after he'd lost every edge he had he finally decided to go for it.
you can tell hes scared of savior though if not why would he try that outrages strat trying to end it quick he would of been better off doing what tossgirl did proxi bunker rush
On December 01 2006 04:49 suffeli wrote: He sent 12SCVs to attack the sunken and didn't move his marines?
That's what i tought. Kinda strange for a guy like nada. I guess he didnt want to play a long game on arcadia vs savior that why he came up with that strategy. A failed all-in. lets see what happens next game.
On December 01 2006 04:49 suffeli wrote: He sent 12SCVs to attack the sunken and didn't move his marines?
That's what i tought. Kinda strange for a guy like nada. I guess he didnt want to play a long game on arcadia vs savior that why he came up with that strategy. A failed all-in. lets see what happens next game.
im sure that strat was dependant on saviors 3 hatch which he saw and also the close positions.. no way that was his main plan imo.
On December 01 2006 04:50 RoyCe wrote: you can tell hes scared of savior though if not why would he try that outrages strat trying to end it quick he would of been better off doing what tossgirl did proxi bunker rush
arcadia is Z>>>>T, 2 early expo for free for Z, playing straight up on it against the best zvt in the world might not be such a good idea :/
On December 01 2006 04:49 suffeli wrote: He sent 12SCVs to attack the sunken and didn't move his marines?
That's what i tought. Kinda strange for a guy like nada. I guess he didnt want to play a long game on arcadia vs savior that why he came up with that strategy. A failed all-in. lets see what happens next game.
jesus people... have you ever tried that rush? I have. Sunken >>> marines, he needs to take the sunken down first or else it wont work, marines without medics die way too fast to even a single sunken, not to mention there were lings there.
I agree. He had to make sure SCVS took hits because those marines were all he had. And Savior is sick enough he would target rines with Sunkens. That means GG Nada too.
NaDa hits the isolated expo and drops another. Nydus finishes. NaDa kills half the lurks before swarm saves them. He then kills hatchery and the drop gets another expo down to about 150 hp. Sav is being handled here.
Heh. Now we're on hardcore SK with things being irradiated just because he can. What a bitch. Sav is opening up his main, turning it into a land war with hydra, lurk defiler army.
These two guys are the very best of the BW-scene right now. Noone who watched this game can ever complain on that. What a game. Only bad thing abut it is that savior won. Not just because I favour NaDa, but more because I want to see 3 more games plz
That one moment at centre when Sav had opened the land route from his base was critical. It was all NaDas game before that. Then Sav suddenly initiates a battle NaDa wasn't expecting, plagues all over him and 3 dropships fly overhead, 2 of which get shot down.
On December 01 2006 05:31 Sabbath wrote: 2- this was one of the best comebacks i have ever watched, holy crap, such an unbelievably high level of ZvT play by savior
Definitely. I was 100% sure it was impossible to come back after that, esp. vs someone like Nada with 3 bases.
So sad that nada spotted that expo at the bottom left so late. After that nada fully focused on that expo and didnt expo himself. Bite on solid rock down there.
wow this game completely demonstrated saviors level of domination... i have NEVER seen such a huge comeback in a game vs an opponent playing as good as nada did.. nada totally owned savior and all i saw was saviors hatcheries dieing left and right... still he comes back to win vs arguably the best terran in the world right now... after seeing that game i begin to think hes on a completely different level than anyone else t.t
First of all, I thought NaDa's early game and midd game were excellent, but late game he was poor, he didn't have any tricks up his sleeve to finish off IPX, he had nothing left, he could not find a way to kill IPX.
Nice defense by savior on that bottom expo.. It was under attack for 15 minutes lol
but really, nada could have played a bit better. Scouting would have helped, and he had a lot of lapses in control this game. Besides those nitpicks nada played excellent. savior is just strong.
On December 01 2006 05:35 Jayson X wrote: So sad that nada spotted that expo at the bottom left so late. After that nada fully focused on that expo and didnt expo himself. Bite on solid rock down there.
he didnt see it because savior held his 3rd and 4th gas like five times with swarm+nydus, bought enough time for his 7 to get up
i think after this series even the last savior hater will acknowledge that savior is unbeatable in zvt or zvp matches... he may lose a bo1 in those but bo3 or even bo5? no way °_°
On December 01 2006 05:48 Sabbath wrote: noone is unbeatable, it just takes time for other people to adapt, take oov's case... hes #16 kespa now
yeah ppl keep saying that, yet i came back to follow the pro scene like 3-4 months ago after quitting bw for 2 years and i have yet to see savior lose a match... heck i have yet to see a match where saviors opponent doesnt get RAPED. he played the best of the best tosses and terrans and every single game he not only won, he raped the living shit out of his opponent. the only game i saw where he had an opponent playing on his lvl was his game1 vs rA.... other than that every zvt or zvp series was pure rape
2 evolution chambers out for savior as well as a queen's nest for the hive
Nada has 1 port 1 factory 5 rax, an extremely aggressive production combination: this allows for an INSANE amount of MnM w/ enough tank/vessel support to keep an opponent on edge
FJKSDJFSKLAFJSAKL!!!
SAvior had 2 lurkers perfectly positioned at a ramp, but nada just rushed in to kill the shit out of it!!
Savior's bottom right expansion is under HEAVY pressure, but 4 defending lurkers repel Nada's massive MnM group
If NaDa pushes at the right moment it can be dangerous for savior, he seems a bit too greedy on this one, but if NaDa sits on his ass he will suffer :/
On December 01 2006 05:48 Sabbath wrote: noone is unbeatable, it just takes time for other people to adapt, take oov's case... hes #16 kespa now
yeah ppl keep saying that, yet i came back to follow the pro scene like 3-4 months ago after quitting bw for 2 years and i have yet to see savior lose a match... heck i have yet to see a match where saviors opponent doesnt get RAPED. he played the best of the best tosses and terrans and every single game he not only won, he raped the living shit out of his opponent. the only game i saw where he had an opponent playing on his lvl was his game1 vs rA.... other than that every zvt or zvp series was pure rape
Reach zealprobe rushed him on arcadia and won. It's on crunchyroll. Gotta love the mantoss.
Oh man, such 2 great games but the speakers are terrible ruining it, they better have put the MSL or OSL ones, witch comment great moves far beter instead of an long break in speach and than a loud "OAAA YAAAA" comes out : /
On December 01 2006 05:48 Sabbath wrote: noone is unbeatable, it just takes time for other people to adapt, take oov's case... hes #16 kespa now
yeah ppl keep saying that, yet i came back to follow the pro scene like 3-4 months ago after quitting bw for 2 years and i have yet to see savior lose a match... heck i have yet to see a match where saviors opponent doesnt get RAPED. he played the best of the best tosses and terrans and every single game he not only won, he raped the living shit out of his opponent. the only game i saw where he had an opponent playing on his lvl was his game1 vs rA.... other than that every zvt or zvp series was pure rape
Reach zealprobe rushed him on arcadia and won. It's on crunchyroll. Gotta love the mantoss.
And....that's it.. Savior always win important game with a totale rape(3-0) or a rape(3-1).. vs Silver 3-1,vs Ra 3-1(x2),vs Reach 3-1 vs Boxer 3-0,vs Oov 3-0...just be patient
Savior has a style very similar to players such as myself, KaaZ, Midian etc (not saying we are Savior calibur, but just for your reference to replays and such) In a sense, the longer the game goes on, the more of an advantage Savior can generate for himself
Zerg players like July/Yellow have shown play where the zerg player is trying perform sequential attacks upon a terran player until his defenses crumble. An excellent example of this would be Yellow vs Casy on Cultivation Period game 1. Yellow aggressively sent lurker/ling through all 3 entrances to Casy's main: the front, and both side entrances until defilers came out and Casy was forced to GG
Rather than emphasizing aggressive timing attacks, Savior's style is one that emphasizes strong macro, smooth transitions, and solid unit control to stop timing pushes. Savior generates a massive drone count early and, if left to his own, will tech quickly to a hive with few vulnerabilities. We saw that, despite the fact that Savior expanded twice, got 2 evo chambers, and hived very quickly, it was extremely difficult for Nada to find a point at which Savior was weak. Attack after attack resulted in Nada barely coming out on top or losing small MnM groups.
However, Nada played the perfect game to counter Savior's. I've experienced this many a time before vs aggressive terran players. Again, if left too unpressured, Savior will grow out of control. Nada effectively put pressure from start to finish w/ a brilliant 6 rax, 1 port, 1 factory build and eventually broke Savior's front.
I better stop blabbing and talk about the next game now : ]
When their armies met NaDa just totally outmicroed him. Irradiated 2 lurkers, lured scourges into mnm, slaughtered some linglurk and retreated without loss. Then his base got swamped with lurks.
On December 01 2006 06:30 Silent_Marine wrote: iloveOov can
savior's been pumping Oov's ass every single time they clashed, an according to the fact that Oov is currently slumping hardcore and is out of both major leagues he doesn't even have the chance to face Savior
How about you watch their games before speaking? Midas honestly should have beaten Savior that MSL. Just like Midas shouldn't have lost to Anytime this OSL either. It's truth. Midas had both of the champs by the balls and let them go.
On December 01 2006 07:02 Sadist wrote: Saviors timing is just so good, hes RAPING progamers, you dont see shit like that. Hes raping ALOT OF THEM too, RAPING.
I wanna see him in some close games ands ee how it goes, everygame ive seen him play that he wins, hes just dominated the whole time
On December 01 2006 06:52 SuperJongMan wrote: How about you watch their games before speaking? Midas honestly should have beaten Savior that MSL. Just like Midas shouldn't have lost to Anytime this OSL either. It's truth. Midas had both of the champs by the balls and let them go.
Maybe is because he ain't got any balls himself
I still think Nada has the biggest chance out of all terrans to beat Savior, it's still a very slim chance, but on some other occasion why not. Also, I'm looking forward to more Nal_rA vs Savior soon too hopefully.
I still think Nada has the biggest chance out of all terrans to beat Savior, it's still a very slim chance, but on some other occasion why not. Also, I'm looking forward to more Nal_rA vs Savior soon too hopefully.
Watch more games. Savior is really something else. Only people that defy BW sense can take on Savior.
Game 2 was a different level than anything I've seen so far. Very very good play from Nada, and INCREDIBLE play from Savior, it was 3 vs 3 bases for like half the game. o_O
Edit: And spamming along on IRC made it twice as exciting. ; )
Omg savior is a GODDDDD....he deserves this .I'm looking forward for an Anytime-Savior clash(I know that Savior would win but it would be cool anyway)!!! thx u Maestro 3 points
Hmm no, during CKCG Savior actually beat Oov in the finals, 2-0 iirc. Last time they met was during the Korean WCG prelims, and Oov won 2-0, although Savior looked pretty uninspired/uncaring.
ok so savior wins v an unstable NaDa .. But to give god status is premature Boxer and NaDa also had this aura for some time but both slumped ... savior will as well
Thinking back of these games, can't say really that Savior stomped NaDa, only game 4 was a rape, game 2 was very tense and game 1 NaDa gambled and got it in the ass.
What is amazing is that NaDa played pretty well overall and Savior still won. I used to think a serious NaDa was totally invincible TvZ but Savior proved me wrong.
On November 24 2006 05:06 fLyiNgDroNe wrote: actually,
Casy is capable of winning. Even tho he lost today in a group of death his micro is as sick as Maestro's macro. I'd say they are equal.
Nada - i don't think so. Let's just wait until superfight happens, but still - nada has never been "that" good in tvz. He had some impressive games, but he's very unstable in this matchup. I will never put my bet on him here.
iloveoov - just not the right guy to fight Savior. Statistics have it.
Midas - he already showed that he CAN. And even tho he lost 2-3 that was an impressive series.
Xellos - i don't know. The guy is in a slump for a long time now but the truth is that he's a teammate with Savior so he can know a little more than we do about Maestro's weeknesses.
GF - if he plays like he did vs July in those very dramatic finals - he surely can win a game or two. Not sure about the series (if we speak of BO5). But this guy KNOWS how to play tvz. And it has nothing to do with his hair guys. Relax.
it says it all. Midas and Casy. Rooting for Casy-Savior OSL finals.
On December 01 2006 06:27 pyrogenetix wrote: whos roger federer?
tennis player who wins a lot. Roger > Savior
hmm not realy nadal > roger, at least in direct games
no?
only on clay
and In all honesty, savior dominating starcraft which if you go by the percentages where the best players have maybe 55-65% winrates is pretty insane.
Alot of factors go into whooping ass, and he seems to have them down. Hes just in a rhythm i think, someone should fuck him up and ask him why he thinsk hes doing so well.
Maybe he's exploiting some zerg imbalances. In tennis everyone plays the same game, exploiting physical traits. sc has both natural talent and racial differences. We'll see if T or P can form some counter strategies.
I propose Savior from now on to start each game vs T with 3 drones, vs P with 2 drones and vs Z with no cash. That should equal the imbalance without troubling Blizzard. Thanks.
On December 01 2006 09:53 WiljushkA wrote: of course he will slump, everybody slumps one time or another but right now he IS god
btw just knew nada fans will go like: wins against unstable nada, osl course'n'stuff :p
no nada fan : ) so he is best now .. many has been best. july was best .. but now that he finally goes for the OSL, lets see how many of those titles he takes home in a row .. I give him one OSL title maximum
Wow Savior, but always remember : Savior is around for one year being really good. NaDa is around for SO LONG now staying at the top and always playing good and winning. Savior's the new star, though.. ^^
On December 01 2006 06:27 pyrogenetix wrote: whos roger federer?
tennis player who wins a lot. Roger > Savior
Savior might be like Roger, but Boxer was like Pete Sampras.
boxer is nothing like pete sampras...
sampras has the most titles but was spectacularly boring personality and tennis style
boxer does not have the most titles and was known more for his very appealing personality and creative play style
Heh I saw Pete Sampras in person play his last Wimbeldon in London vs. Rafter, and there is nothing boring about his play. Strong serve with an amazing volley game. Not to mention he climbed into the stands to hug his parents after he won in a comeback victory. I think I was more referring to the fact that Pete stuck around long after his prime, winning here and there much like Boxer has/did. Boxer stuck around for way after he won his 1st 2 OSL's and maybe he didn't win all of the 6 or 7 trys he had, but most people would still consider him the most accomplished. The Savior bandwagon is pretty crazy, we'll have to see what he does this year before I think names should be thrown around ;o
Boxer, I mean Pete Sampras can do so much with his volley, not only his pace but the incredible spin he places on a ball. it really is quite amazing - his technique and finess....quite amazing
EPT
When are the times?
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