HK: -intro!- » HK: man, we have two very strong protoss and zerg players, we'll meet with Larva first » HK: HELLO!: » Larva: ...hello... » HK: introduce yourself please! » Larva: well thank you all for coming out, and we'll all try our best to play our best » HK: you seemed to confident backstage, why are you talking so quietly right now? » Larva: well, i'm trying to seem pitiful right now.... that, and since he's my sunbae, i can't fool around » HK: you're playing your former teammate, how does it feel to play against someone that was so close to you Larva: well, i looked up to him for a good part of 2 years so i think it's good to say i have an idea of how he plays HK: is it true that you have several builds to take down Bisu? » Larva: well i'll try my best » HK: is there anything to say to your hyung? Larva: hey... Bisu... be careful » HK: alright, thank you, Larva! hello Bisu! » Bisu: hello » HK: how do you see Larva right now? » Bisu: well, he was a hoobae during the proleague days, i think he has potential and is doing great right now » HK: something about how do you feel about PvZ? » Bisu: i haven't played PvZ in awhile, but i hear confidence after netizens say i can win 3-0, and i feel i'll win if i win the first game » HK: do you think we can see a newer form of your play? Bisu: i wouldn't say new, but i thik you'll be able to observe yourself » HK: any words to say to Larva? » Bisu: -couch- well.. Larva, help me out now like you did back in practice in SKT » HK: -outro!-
HK: -intro!- Bisu entered into the Ro4! HK: Bisu, you seemed very tired on the way to the Ro4, but how did you feel? Bisu: well, i remember i said i thought i'd win 3-0 if i won the first game, but i thought i was going to lose the series if i lost the first game.. i'm very surprised i came away with the win » HK: how did you feel about Larva's all-in concepts? » Bisu: well.. i think it just went well. Larva's pretty good, but i definitely was shaken after the 1st and 3rd game » HK: yes, those two games didn't go your way, something about the 5th game? » Bisu: i was hoping it'd go into the 5th game, i was preparing a 1gate build so i'm glad it went my way » HK: yes, it also seems like you have a lot of female fans! female fans, raise your hand if you're hear for Bisu! » HK: how do you feel about advancing (i think) Bisu: well, im glad i won, and i'll try my best during the Ro4, and i'll try my best to win the entire thing » HK: -outro!-
HK: everytime i interview Mini, it seems like he gains newfound confidence! » HK: Kwanro advanced with a very aggressive play. how will you handle that? » Mini: well, it's a Bo5, and as long as it doesn't go all 5 games, i think i'll win » HK: any words to Kwanro? » Mini: well, to meet eiher Bisu or a zerg, i'll try my best to win HK: yes, thank you very much! Kwanro, introduce yourself! » Kwanro: hi » Kwanro: i consider myself lucky because i think Mini is the easiest foe that i could've faced off against HK: something about being strong in certain situations and not strong in other situations Kwanro: only people that say that are those that don't know me very well » HK: if you could say last words to Mini » Kwanro: yes, thank you for helping me advance into the Ro4 » HK: wow, i love this atmosphere! -outro!- » HK: -awkward cheer-
HK: -intro!- » HK: man, we have two very strong protoss and zerg players, we'll meet with Larva first » HK: HELLO!: » Larva: ...hello... » HK: introduce yourself please! » Larva: well thank you all for coming out, and we'll all try our best to play our best » HK: you seemed to confident backstage, why are you talking so quietly right now? » Larva: well, i'm trying to seem pitiful right now.... that, and since he's my sunbae, i can't fool around » HK: you're playing your former teammate, how does it feel to play against someone that was so close to you Larva: well, i looked up to him for a good part of 2 years so i think it's good to say i have an idea of how he plays HK: is it true that you have several builds to take down Bisu? » Larva: well i'll try my best » HK: is there anything to say to your hyung? Larva: hey... Bisu... be careful » HK: alright, thank you, Larva! hello Bisu! » Bisu: hello » HK: how do you see Larva right now? » Bisu: well, he was a hoobae during the proleague days, i think he has potential and is doing great right now » HK: something about how do you feel about PvZ? » Bisu: i haven't played PvZ in awhile, but i hear confidence after netizens say i can win 3-0, and i feel i'll win if i win the first game » HK: do you think we can see a newer form of your play? Bisu: i wouldn't say new, but i thik you'll be able to observe yourself » HK: any words to say to Larva? » Bisu: -couch- well.. Larva, help me out now like you did back in practice in SKT » HK: -outro!-
bisu has a bunch of goons on the high ground doing nothing while his natural gets owned, larva has more rallied units moving on the mini map, if bisu stabilizes he has a chance to come back. Bisu should consider making some dts, the 12oclock nexus goes down
Nice maneuver from Bisu, one zealot dragged all the lings in the main, 4 got in nat, but he lost his sairs in the process. Larva dealing with that really well imo.
Still not enough damage from bisu, he manages to kill a couple drones at the third. He needs to expand or transition out of these small zealot attacks as he's just losing units for free
Bisu now has sairs on the map with +1 but tossed aside by larva's spore. Bisu sends a couple zlots in the natural to delay mining and sneaks a dark templar into the third which forces a drone pull but wont do more than that and a single drone kill
larva does a ling attack on the cannons in the natural where bisu blocks it after losing the cannons. Bisu is actually at 6gateways, I didnt see the other one in the natural. Bisu has an army of 2 archons and zlots with +1 and sairs, and launches an attack on the third of larva who has only a handful of hydra and 2 sunkens
On February 27 2014 19:50 Heartland wrote: I'm not an expert on BW, but how did Bisu win there? Zerg seems to be able to survive those attacks in most games I've watched
Zerg who survive those attacks typically have a much larger hydralisk count when they do hold that third base; and can still rely on some sunkens as a last ditch measure. Couple that with Larva having a lower economy from all the lost mining time because of harassment, and he doesn't have the defenses to hold fast lots+Archon.
On February 27 2014 19:50 Heartland wrote: I'm not an expert on BW, but how did Bisu win there? Zerg seems to be able to survive those attacks in most games I've watched
In my mind: Mining time lost due to harassment / early money invested into lings instead into drones / lost some scourge carelessly to the corsair flock / 3rd base position (same reinforcement-distance for both players). Things adding up, basically.
Larva takes the third @ the gas in the bottom right corner and has a decent lair timing, bisu scouts everything so far and we'll have to see how he adjusts
Larva goes for the gateway, gateway goes down, bisu pulls the probes and kills many lings. I feel like this is a muta all in follow up for larva if the lings fail, but the lings bust down the front door and get in
Bisu manages to barely hold on for now, the zealot he snuck onto the map earlier is STILL doing damage, bisu loses all defending zlots and has only 6probe and a cannon (morphing) which FINALLY goes up, he is barely alive for now, larva continues to send in lings. Bisu's zealot had 11kills, maybe Bisu should sac his natural
if bisus scouting probe that went to the top left had come down to his natural he would have seen the masses of lings T_T might be enough warning to put down like 2 more cannons
On February 27 2014 19:59 GeLaar wrote: The fuck is this shit. Did Bisu prepare at all? Zerglings is basically all Larva knows, and he makes one cannon and one Zealot?!
Well Larva is playing very smart and Bisu is not adjusting to the deviations in the builds Larva has prepared. The firt game seemed like a standard facepalm, Larva went mass hydra mid game and Bisu didn't scout or defend well. In this game (matchpoint) Bisu saw low econ fast lair and chose to send his first zealot away to harass instead of defend or add an additional cannon
Bisudagger, I don't believe that you didn't find it until now. You probably found it ages before but he hasn't accepted your friend request and you've pretended that it hasn't happened until now.
On February 27 2014 19:59 GeLaar wrote: The fuck is this shit. Did Bisu prepare at all? Zerglings is basically all Larva knows, and he makes one cannon and one Zealot?!
He said he hadn't played PvZ in a while in the pre-game interview. It seems like all the times Larva's been practicing with Bisu is paying off somewhat, not over yet though!
Man these intros get better and better every round.
On February 27 2014 19:59 GeLaar wrote: The fuck is this shit. Did Bisu prepare at all? Zerglings is basically all Larva knows, and he makes one cannon and one Zealot?!
He said he hadn't played PvZ in a while in the pre-game interview. It seems like all the times Larva's been practicing with Bisu is paying off somewhat, not over yet though!
If that's true (that he hasn't played PvZ in a while) then that's the most arrogant thing I've seen Bisu do to date, and he deserves to get eliminated.
On February 27 2014 19:59 GeLaar wrote: The fuck is this shit. Did Bisu prepare at all? Zerglings is basically all Larva knows, and he makes one cannon and one Zealot?!
He said he hadn't played PvZ in a while in the pre-game interview. It seems like all the times Larva's been practicing with Bisu is paying off somewhat, not over yet though!
If that's true (that he hasn't played PvZ in a while) then that's the most arrogant thing I've seen Bisu do to date, and he deserves to get eliminated.
Maybe no one wanted to practice with him lol. (it doesn't help that Bisu didn't return the favor to ssak when he helped him practice).
bisu leaves a spotting ob to intercept drops @ the bottom of his base and does a push but he doesnt have enough stuff, dont know why he attacked so soon with only 1 reaver and no high templar larva does a huge push and bisu is in huge trouble
still only 1 reaver out, a couple templars join the mix. Bisu's army is primarily dragoons at this point and he needs a third base soon. He attempts a ninja expand in the top right, Larva has map control but has to rebuild drones. Bisu still in a lead
here comes a monster push, if Bisu doesnt mess up the micro i think he should win the game. Bisu storms his own shuttle and it dies but he can definitely take a third base now
tons of hydras on the map bisu needs to organize his shit, the reavers are a bit exposed without shuttle but there are too many goons and storms so larva is forced to retreat. Im sensing a gg soon from larva, bisu's army is absolutely huge and larva is stuck on 5hatch hydra
nvm. Gate first gets straight scouted by the overlord...
On February 27 2014 20:24 dRaW wrote: Waldo spotted (inside joke, we were playing where's Waldo and Waldo was a girl in the SSL crowd, we couldn't find one until now)
maybe he will do 2hatch hydra all in? we'll find out soon, larva makes 4lings total and bisu blocks the ramp with a zealot and a probe, sgate on the way. Third hatch for larva so it will be 3 hatch hydras into lair
Bisu pushes onto the map with a goon and a zealot, the goon intercepts an overlord but it lives with 1 shot remaining, then he kills it with a sair and his forces retreat. Larva made a few lings. Still unsure of larva's decisions, maybe he will get hydras just to defend and do a ling bust. Still no lair and he is -1more overlord and making a creep colony to defend bisu's possible forces (the creep was just cancelled). Larva tries to do a ling runby and gets 2 lings into the main but they have no speed
Bisu removs 1 probe off gas and loses a probe to the 2 lings. Bisu has a forge and nexus on the way but no templar tech so he cant really defend a heavy timing attack if Larva goes for one. The one benefit for Bisu is he's still killing overlords which will keep Larva's timing delayed. larva denies BOTH cannons and starts to pour in the lings now though
Still no lair so if bisu holds on larva is in serious trouble but larva denied another pair of cannons. one cannon FINALLY goes up but bisu needs more cannons because larva's econ and tech isnt in the best condition
more lings on the way, bisu pulls the probes and blocks successfully this time, larva tries again out of desperation. Larva takes a third and resumes drone production but his tech is very late
yeah, larva shows frustration, more zealots with +1 than hydras, very goo drone drill butLarva is losing too much and hes still behind in tech, unfortunate for larva but its gg
On February 27 2014 20:02 Heartland wrote: Bisudagger, I don't believe that you didn't find it until now. You probably found it ages before but he hasn't accepted your friend request and you've pretended that it hasn't happened until now.
On February 27 2014 20:26 Shock710 wrote: wow 1 base in ace match, draw can u tell us if this is better or worse vs mass ling strats
It's worse cause your econ is worse so you have less to deal with mass lings. Lings are easy to kill with gas, it worked out for him in the end though.
Overall I give the series a C+/B- grade, Larva had a good strategy but some games looked a bit sloppy and nothing really was too creative or went to epic late game.
HK: -intro!- Bisu entered into the Ro4! HK: Bisu, you seemed very tired on the way to the Ro4, but how did you feel? Bisu: well, i remember i said i thought i'd win 3-0 if i won the first game, but i thought i was going to lose the series if i lost the first game.. i'm very surprised i came away with the win » HK: how did you feel about Larva's all-in concepts? » Bisu: well.. i think it just went well. Larva's pretty good, but i definitely was shaken after the 1st and 3rd game » HK: yes, those two games didn't go your way, something about the 5th game? » Bisu: i was hoping it'd go into the 5th game, i was preparing a 1gate build so i'm glad it went my way » HK: yes, it also seems like you have a lot of female fans! female fans, raise your hand if you're hear for Bisu! » HK: how do you feel about advancing (i think) Bisu: well, im glad i won, and i'll try my best during the Ro4, and i'll try my best to win the entire thing » HK: -outro!-
Interviewer: Larva's Zergling-heavy style seemed to give you some trouble today. Are there any points that you are not satisfied with, regarding your games today?
Bisu: Yes, his use of Zerglings and control are very good, so I ended up losing games 1 and 3.
Interviewer: You used mind games in the last game.
Bisu: Yes, that was intentional psychological play on my part. Double Nexus gets played so much, so I thought I'd throw him off by opening with gateway first, and it worked.
Interviewer: Any words for your fans?
Bisu: Today's match gave me some confidence to make it to the finals.
I'm so happy... got to love that series if you're a bisu fan.
it's really scary!
this really made my day bisu so good and handsome now, time to go to work. thanks for the streamers and bisudagger, always love your biased bisu comments
Kwanro is confident tonight (and a little arrogant lol)
Via RedAxis aka Sync
HK: everytime i interview Mini, it seems like he gains newfound confidence! » HK: Kwanro advanced with a very aggressive play. how will you handle that? » Mini: well, it's a Bo5, and as long as it doesn't go all 5 games, i think i'll win » HK: any words to Kwanro? » Mini: well, to meet eiher Bisu or a zerg, i'll try my best to win HK: yes, thank you very much! Kwanro, introduce yourself! » Kwanro: hi » Kwanro: i consider myself lucky because i think Mini is the easiest foe that i could've faced off against HK: something about being strong in certain situations and not strong in other situations Kwanro: only people that say that are those that don't know me very well » HK: if you could say last words to Mini » Kwanro: yes, thank you for helping me advance into the Ro4 » HK: wow, i love this atmosphere! -outro!- » HK: -awkward cheer-
On February 27 2014 21:54 GeLaar wrote: Interview girl confirms that she doesn't know the first thing about Starcraft by starting the interview with "You showed us some very nice games!"
Well, I think saying "this serie was underwhelming" wouldn't help anyone either :p
Not sure if I caught that right, but I think he said that there are only two days left. So it might mean that the both semifinals will be played on the same day?
On February 27 2014 21:54 GeLaar wrote: Interview girl confirms that she doesn't know the first thing about Starcraft by starting the interview with "You showed us some very nice games!"
bwahahaha, she IS cute though. TBH, I don't think she should say like "Your series was more boring than the last one, what do you think?"
First series was great, constant action. Second series on the other hand...well let's just say I don't expect Kwanro will be a real challenge for Bisu based on those games. I hope, and I imagine most people do, to see a Bisu vs Hero final.
On February 28 2014 14:26 vesicular wrote: Now that Mini is out I pray to god for a hero vs bisu finals. Nothing would be better than to see STX stomp on SKT.
Bwahah, never going to happen. Bisu going to win. >:3
On February 28 2014 14:26 vesicular wrote: Now that Mini is out I pray to god for a hero vs bisu finals. Nothing would be better than to see STX stomp on SKT.
Bwahah, never going to happen. Bisu going to win. >:3
Remember, this is the team that got AKed by HYUK. And Fantasy. AND Rain. A 3-0 stomp is NEVER going to happen.
On March 01 2014 11:30 Phyanketto wrote: These games sucked. T_T
Wtf, the first series were such a rush of aggression all the place. Nobody turtled, non stop movement and micro ubiquitously. Although agreeable that the 2nd serie was shit barring the first game which wasn't high level by any means but just plain hilarious and the last game. Kwanro never decelerated his Mutas. The result could've have been totally reversed if Mini had two more extra storms that will allow him to secure a third and macro behind it. Only two storms, that's how cutting edge it was.
On March 01 2014 11:23 JohnChoi wrote: nope next ssl on 3/6
On March 01 2014 11:30 Phyanketto wrote: These games sucked. T_T
Wtf, the first series were such a rush of aggression all the place. Nobody turtled, non stop movement and micro ubiquitously. Although agreeable that the 2nd serie was shit barring the first game which wasn't high level by any means but just plain hilarious and the last game. Kwanro never decelerated his Mutas. The result could've have been totally reversed if Mini had two more extra storms that will allow him to secure a third and macro behind it. Only two storms, that's how cutting edge it was.
On March 01 2014 11:23 JohnChoi wrote: nope next ssl on 3/6
My GPA thanks you.
I dunno, I wasn't feeling the hype. Bisu vs Larva seemed like it was Bisu playing not nearly up to his standards, and as a result I felt like he threw a lot of games, and made a lot of mistakes.
On March 01 2014 11:30 Phyanketto wrote: These games sucked. T_T
Wtf, the first series were such a rush of aggression all the place. Nobody turtled, non stop movement and micro ubiquitously. Although agreeable that the 2nd serie was shit barring the first game which wasn't high level by any means but just plain hilarious and the last game. Kwanro never decelerated his Mutas. The result could've have been totally reversed if Mini had two more extra storms that will allow him to secure a third and macro behind it. Only two storms, that's how cutting edge it was.
On March 01 2014 11:23 JohnChoi wrote: nope next ssl on 3/6
My GPA thanks you.
I dunno, I wasn't feeling the hype. Bisu vs Larva seemed like it was Bisu playing not nearly up to his standards, and as a result I felt like he threw a lot of games, and made a lot of mistakes.
I suppose there was uncharacteristic plays from Bisu in that game. But I myself abhor (wow that's a strong word) macro oriented type of games. And no matter what the result was, Bisu still won at the end.
"You don't have to win by a lot, you just have to win."
On March 01 2014 11:30 Phyanketto wrote: These games sucked. T_T
Wtf, the first series were such a rush of aggression all the place. Nobody turtled, non stop movement and micro ubiquitously. Although agreeable that the 2nd serie was shit barring the first game which wasn't high level by any means but just plain hilarious and the last game. Kwanro never decelerated his Mutas. The result could've have been totally reversed if Mini had two more extra storms that will allow him to secure a third and macro behind it. Only two storms, that's how cutting edge it was.
On March 01 2014 11:23 JohnChoi wrote: nope next ssl on 3/6
My GPA thanks you.
I dunno, I wasn't feeling the hype. Bisu vs Larva seemed like it was Bisu playing not nearly up to his standards, and as a result I felt like he threw a lot of games, and made a lot of mistakes.
Yeah Larva beeing the current top zvp player of the whole scene you expect a W.O for bisu ? Bvz is still A p r o t o s s
Well, I don't think Larva made an effort to transition to sc2. so he's been streaming and practicing BW since the end of the scene for a long time now, whereas Zero only recently returned.
Larva is a good, if not top Z player right now. I don't think you should hold the fact he was a b-teamer back in 2012 against him.
Larva's additional advantage (if you want to call it that) is that he was Bisu's practice partner in ZvP ever since Bisu got back. So not only does he have the SKT Telecom 1 experience of playing BvZ, he also understands Bisu's current form and style much more than any other progamer. The fact that he's less skilled than, say hero or Killer is probably made up for by his familiarity with Bisu. That said, I think Kwanro's the true danger to Bisu. hero will play Bisu straight up and while he might win a few games, he won't be able to really match Bisu pound for pound, skill-wise. Kwanro, on the other hand, knows how to cheese properly in series play, which has proven time and again to be Bisu's true weakness in PvZ.
Bisu was being slightly Storkish (greedy 1 can only expand vs zerglings), but still has his godly micro and multitasking. He'd better be more careful in the semis against Pikachu.
Also nice 17 kills dragoon in game 5!
e: And why was Mini vs Kwanro rated 5 stars wtf.
On March 03 2014 02:01 AppleSauce123 wrote: MARCH 3 2007, 03.03.07 ---- LET US NEVER FORGET
7 years already?! I remember it as if it happened yesterday T_T
EPT![[image loading]](http://i.imgur.com/mppsIZP.png)
![[image loading]](http://i.imgur.com/kl4CM49.jpg?1)
vs Larva
Didn't even watch the gomtv stuff, it sounded a bit like me against Mike Tyson in boxing...
