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L_Master
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
United States8017 Posts
November 08 2013 03:47 GMT
#1061
I'm not even sure how to handle this.

I'm inclined to say Kai is protoss, because his notification of changing to zerg is not in time for this weeks matches. However, I also listed him as Z, which may have caused issues with preparation.

It seems to me the fairest option is to let Sentenal choose which race Kai is playing.
EffOrt and Soulkey Hwaiting!
tonight
Profile Blog Joined November 2006
United States11130 Posts
November 08 2013 03:55 GMT
#1062
I'll answer for him. He wants Zerg.
if I come without a thing, then I come with all I need @tonightsend
Sentenal
Profile Blog Joined December 2007
United States12398 Posts
November 08 2013 04:16 GMT
#1063
I had assumed KaiGreene was zerg, so if possible that's what I'd like to play against.
"Apparently, Sentenal is a paragon of friendship and tolerance. " - Ech0ne
SynC[gm]
Profile Blog Joined October 2008
United States3127 Posts
November 08 2013 04:33 GMT
#1064
I'll answer for him too.

Kai will be Zerg.
twitch.tv/dizzywee
amazingxkcd
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
GRAND OLD AMERICA16375 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-11-08 05:02:25
November 08 2013 04:40 GMT
#1065
There's been some behind the scenes discussion of allowing ket[pain] to play. Eric asked me to have a poll for this. Ket[pain] is D+ level, here is a replay pack of his ladder games

http://www.mediafire.com/?ev5gyqg7vtzaqvo

Poll: Allow for Ket[pain] to play?

Yes (18)
 
56%

No (14)
 
44%

32 total votes

Your vote: Allow for Ket[pain] to play?

(Vote): Yes
(Vote): No

The world is burning and you rather be on this terrible website discussing video games and your shallow feelings
SynC[gm]
Profile Blog Joined October 2008
United States3127 Posts
November 08 2013 05:39 GMT
#1066
On November 08 2013 09:10 Birdie wrote:
Stealth Bunnies lineup is still the same at the moment, although I'll probably add a couple of players soon.
sB.Birdie
sB.Noddy
sB.Minscandboo
sB.Shiraishi
sB.Yadong
sB.Seabook
sB.Icedraco
sB.Passafist
sB.CrystalDrag

I thought Birdie was retiring to C-ranks?
twitch.tv/dizzywee
Falling
Profile Blog Joined June 2009
Canada11509 Posts
November 08 2013 06:16 GMT
#1067
On November 08 2013 14:39 SynC[gm] wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 08 2013 09:10 Birdie wrote:
Stealth Bunnies lineup is still the same at the moment, although I'll probably add a couple of players soon.
sB.Birdie
sB.Noddy
sB.Minscandboo
sB.Shiraishi
sB.Yadong
sB.Seabook
sB.Icedraco
sB.Passafist
sB.CrystalDrag

I thought Birdie was retiring to C-ranks?

I thought the general consensus was all the teams were going to play through the second round of this season and then graduate a bunch after the season is through. Personally, I think this will be easier for everyone to just play through. Come the next season, we might have a couple less teams to compensate for the graduating players, but we'll know going into the new season and can adjust accordingly. Midstream is just awkward even if all teams decide to give up their C-ranks at once rather than just Birdie.
Moderator"In Trump We Trust," says the Golden Goat of Mar a Lago. Have faith and believe! Trump moves in mysterious ways. Like the wind he blows where he pleases...
SynC[gm]
Profile Blog Joined October 2008
United States3127 Posts
November 08 2013 06:44 GMT
#1068
On November 08 2013 15:16 Falling wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 08 2013 14:39 SynC[gm] wrote:
On November 08 2013 09:10 Birdie wrote:
Stealth Bunnies lineup is still the same at the moment, although I'll probably add a couple of players soon.
sB.Birdie
sB.Noddy
sB.Minscandboo
sB.Shiraishi
sB.Yadong
sB.Seabook
sB.Icedraco
sB.Passafist
sB.CrystalDrag

I thought Birdie was retiring to C-ranks?

I thought the general consensus was all the teams were going to play through the second round of this season and then graduate a bunch after the season is through. Personally, I think this will be easier for everyone to just play through. Come the next season, we might have a couple less teams to compensate for the graduating players, but we'll know going into the new season and can adjust accordingly. Midstream is just awkward even if all teams decide to give up their C-ranks at once rather than just Birdie.

I'm asking because he talked on multiple occasions about how he'll be moving on up. Plus, I believe dazed of TAKK and RulzBoooM of Hwaiting Oz has moved on, so it's hardly a situation as where every team is having players graduate and losing all of their players.
Oh well, I'm not complaining, all the more ways I can beat Birdie.
twitch.tv/dizzywee
art_of_turtle
Profile Blog Joined September 2012
United States1206 Posts
November 08 2013 07:58 GMT
#1069
Hey whats the holdup i sent the lineups 24 hours ago.
Flash should fear Sacsri
Birdie
Profile Blog Joined August 2007
New Zealand4438 Posts
November 08 2013 09:29 GMT
#1070
On November 08 2013 15:16 Falling wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 08 2013 14:39 SynC[gm] wrote:
On November 08 2013 09:10 Birdie wrote:
Stealth Bunnies lineup is still the same at the moment, although I'll probably add a couple of players soon.
sB.Birdie
sB.Noddy
sB.Minscandboo
sB.Shiraishi
sB.Yadong
sB.Seabook
sB.Icedraco
sB.Passafist
sB.CrystalDrag

I thought Birdie was retiring to C-ranks?

I thought the general consensus was all the teams were going to play through the second round of this season and then graduate a bunch after the season is through. Personally, I think this will be easier for everyone to just play through. Come the next season, we might have a couple less teams to compensate for the graduating players, but we'll know going into the new season and can adjust accordingly. Midstream is just awkward even if all teams decide to give up their C-ranks at once rather than just Birdie.

I'll leave if everyone else leaves, otherwise I'm just turning sB into a punching bag for C- rankers. Myself and Icedraco help balance out the team compared to everyone else

Having said that, I definitely think that all C- need to graduate to CRTL next season.
Red classic | A butterfly dreamed he was Zhuangzi | 4.5k, heading to 5k as support!
icedraco
Profile Joined June 2012
Philippines118 Posts
November 08 2013 10:21 GMT
#1071
lightning add me on skype sGs.icedraco
ggrrg
Profile Blog Joined September 2009
Bulgaria2716 Posts
November 08 2013 11:59 GMT
#1072
On November 08 2013 15:16 Falling wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 08 2013 14:39 SynC[gm] wrote:
On November 08 2013 09:10 Birdie wrote:
Stealth Bunnies lineup is still the same at the moment, although I'll probably add a couple of players soon.
sB.Birdie
sB.Noddy
sB.Minscandboo
sB.Shiraishi
sB.Yadong
sB.Seabook
sB.Icedraco
sB.Passafist
sB.CrystalDrag

I thought Birdie was retiring to C-ranks?

I thought the general consensus was all the teams were going to play through the second round of this season and then graduate a bunch after the season is through. Personally, I think this will be easier for everyone to just play through. Come the next season, we might have a couple less teams to compensate for the graduating players, but we'll know going into the new season and can adjust accordingly. Midstream is just awkward even if all teams decide to give up their C-ranks at once rather than just Birdie.


I don't know what the general consesus is, but Hwaiting Oz "graduated" 2 players after round 1. If I'm not mistaken several people have expressed intention to withdraw from DRTL after round 1. Anyway, it's a personal decison...
greenelve
Profile Joined April 2011
Germany1392 Posts
November 08 2013 14:30 GMT
#1073
On November 08 2013 18:29 Birdie wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 08 2013 15:16 Falling wrote:
On November 08 2013 14:39 SynC[gm] wrote:
On November 08 2013 09:10 Birdie wrote:
Stealth Bunnies lineup is still the same at the moment, although I'll probably add a couple of players soon.
sB.Birdie
sB.Noddy
sB.Minscandboo
sB.Shiraishi
sB.Yadong
sB.Seabook
sB.Icedraco
sB.Passafist
sB.CrystalDrag

I thought Birdie was retiring to C-ranks?

I thought the general consensus was all the teams were going to play through the second round of this season and then graduate a bunch after the season is through. Personally, I think this will be easier for everyone to just play through. Come the next season, we might have a couple less teams to compensate for the graduating players, but we'll know going into the new season and can adjust accordingly. Midstream is just awkward even if all teams decide to give up their C-ranks at once rather than just Birdie.

I'll leave if everyone else leaves, otherwise I'm just turning sB into a punching bag for C- rankers. Myself and Icedraco help balance out the team compared to everyone else

Having said that, I definitely think that all C- need to graduate to CRTL next season.

My wish is.....let me explain it: that the best D players after a season are promoted to CRTL, while also the worst C players go down to DRTL...which also means that both seasons run at the same time ...and to tell my wish: make the whole leaguesystem more professionel. >.>

This would take aways the D rank only but it would also take away the "you dont belong in this place" cause if a player is too good, he would graduate...
z0r.de for your daily madness /// Who knows what evil lurks in the heart of men? The Shadow knows!
tonight
Profile Blog Joined November 2006
United States11130 Posts
November 08 2013 17:10 GMT
#1074
that's actually a good idea, although I like playing in both at the same time
if I come without a thing, then I come with all I need @tonightsend
SynC[gm]
Profile Blog Joined October 2008
United States3127 Posts
November 08 2013 18:10 GMT
#1075
It's a good idea if there was a true motivational reward, such as a salary or prizes for individual leagues. Other than simply getting better, there's no other reason to really have to challenge one's self.

I proposed the idea before, mainly because greenelve was the one that suggested it, about having leagues being separated by skill with a promotion/relegation system implemented, but the problem exists within the fact that there's no reward for winning individual leagues.

Plus, there are many flaws as well, also stemming from the fact that there's no reward involved. If a player were to get promoted for winning a DRIT, per say, unless there was a reward other than the promotion, why would players aim to win at all, if it means having to play against harder people in the higher-tier leagues with again, no reward?

It's a good idea, but not something that is easily implemented.
twitch.tv/dizzywee
Cpt.beefy
Profile Blog Joined September 2006
Ireland799 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-11-08 18:45:20
November 08 2013 18:43 GMT
#1076
On November 08 2013 13:40 amazingxkcd wrote:
There's been some behind the scenes discussion of allowing ket[pain] to play. Eric asked me to have a poll for this. Ket[pain] is D+ level, here is a replay pack of his ladder games

http://www.mediafire.com/?ev5gyqg7vtzaqvo

Poll: Allow for Ket[pain] to play?

Yes (18)
 
56%

No (14)
 
44%

32 total votes

Your vote: Allow for Ket[pain] to play?

(Vote): Yes
(Vote): No




From the replays That were provided heres my results:

The account used is called: warmupaccount (lol).

3 of the replays are fillers. To short to get any information from. (9 secs/14 secs/34 secs). Also curiously one of them belongs to an
Terran called iiN.rang, a Korean / C+ why is that part of the replay pack?

Only)Cata / C- and KET won
Seetaaurgent B- (a while ago) KET won (These games were back to back)


LT)Drunk - Mass gamer 250 games with a 88-158 record lost
Hoender - D+/C- who he beat
500KG - Finish(the country) C- (when he ladders on this account) 24 minute4s macrofest that was crazy close.
4ni - Strong C- er that KET he lost
Force_nah - ?? no info

Oh and in the replays is a game against LRM)Baku which is a macro fest and baku just out macros him. IMO this is way to close to call him a D rank player. Or at least his TvZ isnt D rank.

Hes on par with DNH and Napoleon. DNH who is defo a C- player and is too busy/noble to play in round 2 of this DRTL. Napoleon is obviously another excellent Terran. Some may say borderline C-.


In closing:

Should he be allowed to play in a D ranks team league. In my opinion. Nope. Hes too good. Join a C rank team.


Our Beloved Geoff "inControl" Robinson.
greenelve
Profile Joined April 2011
Germany1392 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-11-08 19:25:27
November 08 2013 19:23 GMT
#1077
The main problem i see is: How to keep balance? If half of a team gets up or down, where to they take new players? And do the promoted players get spread over all the teams? Cause for example sB cant lose half of their team and have a 150% filled CRTL team. Again, Same for going down to DRTL. Or 1-2 players from each team....result would be the same...

Maybe it could be handled like Gambits Cup - Leagues below: Teams picks players they think they are helpful and players who arent good enough, get transfered to a weaker team (like CRTL).

Therefor i never made this idea public like i did now....but yet....it would be cool to play in a more professional area. :D


ps: rewards in form of (lots of) money has the bitter feeling of motivation to cheat. which already happend in past d ranks.
z0r.de for your daily madness /// Who knows what evil lurks in the heart of men? The Shadow knows!
Cpt.beefy
Profile Blog Joined September 2006
Ireland799 Posts
November 08 2013 20:12 GMT
#1078
On November 09 2013 04:23 greenelve wrote:
The main problem i see is: How to keep balance? If half of a team gets up or down, where to they take new players? And do the promoted players get spread over all the teams? Cause for example sB cant lose half of their team and have a 150% filled CRTL team. Again, Same for going down to DRTL. Or 1-2 players from each team....result would be the same...

Maybe it could be handled like Gambits Cup - Leagues below: Teams picks players they think they are helpful and players who arent good enough, get transfered to a weaker team (like CRTL).

Therefor i never made this idea public like i did now....but yet....it would be cool to play in a more professional area. :D


ps: rewards in form of (lots of) money has the bitter feeling of motivation to cheat. which already happend in past d ranks.


Why would sB lose half there team, mate? Isn't it just Birdie and icedraco on the retiring/promoting list?
Birdie said he has other players to add later, in anyway.
Our Beloved Geoff "inControl" Robinson.
tonight
Profile Blog Joined November 2006
United States11130 Posts
November 08 2013 21:02 GMT
#1079
I'm still going to finish this season after that we'll see.
if I come without a thing, then I come with all I need @tonightsend
greenelve
Profile Joined April 2011
Germany1392 Posts
November 08 2013 21:09 GMT
#1080
On November 09 2013 05:12 Cpt.beefy wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 09 2013 04:23 greenelve wrote:
The main problem i see is: How to keep balance? If half of a team gets up or down, where to they take new players? And do the promoted players get spread over all the teams? Cause for example sB cant lose half of their team and have a 150% filled CRTL team. Again, Same for going down to DRTL. Or 1-2 players from each team....result would be the same...

Maybe it could be handled like Gambits Cup - Leagues below: Teams picks players they think they are helpful and players who arent good enough, get transfered to a weaker team (like CRTL).

Therefor i never made this idea public like i did now....but yet....it would be cool to play in a more professional area. :D


ps: rewards in form of (lots of) money has the bitter feeling of motivation to cheat. which already happend in past d ranks.


Why would sB lose half there team, mate? Isn't it just Birdie and icedraco on the retiring/promoting list?
Birdie said he has other players to add later, in anyway.

For example. Or TAKK wins and all 5 players won every game, TAKK would lose 5 core players which are promoted to.... well there is no CRTL TAKK...so the players would be splitted among the teams....


Ofcourse you can insert any other team....
z0r.de for your daily madness /// Who knows what evil lurks in the heart of men? The Shadow knows!
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