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Gao Xi
Profile Blog Joined June 2009
Hong Kong5178 Posts
August 31 2013 23:23 GMT
#321
Has the deadline for last week's reps past?
IIRC it has
龔智禮 _________________________________________________________________________________________________ CJ NATION
tonight
Profile Blog Joined November 2006
United States11130 Posts
September 01 2013 00:43 GMT
#322
I added naxtel to skype to try and setup a time and date to play. I should be able to do it at the regular time, but tomorrow
if I come without a thing, then I come with all I need @tonightsend
SynC[gm]
Profile Blog Joined October 2008
United States3127 Posts
September 01 2013 06:02 GMT
#323
Any updated results on any of the other series?
twitch.tv/dizzywee
DarkNetHunter
Profile Joined October 2012
1224 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-09-01 14:16:40
September 01 2013 13:54 GMT
#324
+ Show Spoiler [DeSPA vs Ace] +

DeSPA v ACE
Massssssss <Fighting Spirit> Fabiano
Squishy <Destination> Magredis
Biolunar <815> L1ghtning
DarkNetHunter <Pamir Plateu> CityShuffle FPVod DNH
LTY <Wind and Cloud> Michamicha (W.O.)

Edit: replays submitted


Learn from the mistakes of others. You can't live long enough to make them all yourself.
ggrrg
Profile Blog Joined September 2009
Bulgaria2717 Posts
September 01 2013 20:14 GMT
#325
Final TAKK vs Hwaiting Oz results:

+ Show Spoiler +

Miss.Click.. <Fighting Spirit> SmokeyBear
Stardom(OD) <Destination> Comsat
DazedSpy <815> [sam]gohan
Chrisolo <Pamir Plateu> RulzBoooM
KaiGreene <Wind and Cloud> DCembrZerg
chrisolo
Profile Joined May 2009
Germany2614 Posts
September 01 2013 20:19 GMT
#326
GGs RulzBoooM

+ Show Spoiler +
I have to say tho, Pamir Plateau is a really really bad map. I think Pamir and 815 should be removed from mappool and replaced with maps out of the iccup ladder mappack. Cant even train this shitty Pamir and 815 maps when they are not in the iccup ladder mappack. Besides they are both just simply bad. I cant understand why you would keep such bad maps in the mappack.

Anyways gg. Not taking anyway away from you ggrrg...
¯\_(ツ)_/¯ - aka cReAtiVee
ggrrg
Profile Blog Joined September 2009
Bulgaria2717 Posts
September 01 2013 20:35 GMT
#327
On September 02 2013 05:19 chrisolo wrote:
GGs RulzBoooM

+ Show Spoiler +
I have to say tho, Pamir Plateau is a really really bad map. I think Pamir and 815 should be removed from mappool and replaced with maps out of the iccup ladder mappack. Cant even train this shitty Pamir and 815 maps when they are not in the iccup ladder mappack. Besides they are both just simply bad. I cant understand why you would keep such bad maps in the mappack.

Anyways gg. Not taking anyway away from you ggrrg...


GG!

Anyway, I agree that Pamir is a bad map. Any kind of contain feels too strong on it. Breaking a contain up that small ramp in front of the natural is really hard...
I like 815 but considering that the overwhelming majority of players seem to hate it, it would probably be better to replace it.
DarkNetHunter
Profile Joined October 2012
1224 Posts
September 01 2013 21:08 GMT
#328
The Ramp is what makes Pamir Plateau quite unique, people have to adapt their builds to not get contained, or to improve their chances to contain their opponent, its not a bad map feature.
What is a bad map feature is that afaik there isn't a version that has fixed natural gas mining issues.

815.. no comment
Learn from the mistakes of others. You can't live long enough to make them all yourself.
ggrrg
Profile Blog Joined September 2009
Bulgaria2717 Posts
September 01 2013 21:16 GMT
#329
On September 02 2013 06:08 DarkNetHunter wrote:
The Ramp is what makes Pamir Plateau quite unique, people have to adapt their builds to not get contained, or to improve their chances to contain their opponent, its not a bad map feature.
What is a bad map feature is that afaik there isn't a version that has fixed natural gas mining issues.

815.. no comment


I feel that this limits the options players have. Basically, you have to opt for a really safe build in order to prevent the opponent from containing you. Even then, relatively small mistakes can cause you to be doomed if the opponent somehow manages to achieve a contain on you.
amazingxkcd
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
GRAND OLD AMERICA16375 Posts
September 01 2013 23:19 GMT
#330
On September 02 2013 06:16 ggrrg wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 02 2013 06:08 DarkNetHunter wrote:
The Ramp is what makes Pamir Plateau quite unique, people have to adapt their builds to not get contained, or to improve their chances to contain their opponent, its not a bad map feature.
What is a bad map feature is that afaik there isn't a version that has fixed natural gas mining issues.

815.. no comment


I feel that this limits the options players have. Basically, you have to opt for a really safe build in order to prevent the opponent from containing you. Even then, relatively small mistakes can cause you to be doomed if the opponent somehow manages to achieve a contain on you.


But I have this sick TvT build for Pamir that I developed
The world is burning and you rather be on this terrible website discussing video games and your shallow feelings
Falling
Profile Blog Joined June 2009
Canada11607 Posts
September 02 2013 00:50 GMT
#331
Are there no other reverse ramps in the iccup mappack? We have 50 maps to choose from and it is much easier to practice when you can ladder with tourney maps. Even better if one of the maps happens to be in the motw.
ModeratorWake me up when Trump's term is finished. Slava Ukraini.
BigFan
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
TLADT24920 Posts
September 02 2013 01:17 GMT
#332
we should have gladiator and La Mancha in the map pool lol. Both good maps used in 2011 OSL etc...
Former BW EiC"Watch Bakemonogatari or I will kill you." -Toad, April 18th, 2017
SynC[gm]
Profile Blog Joined October 2008
United States3127 Posts
September 02 2013 01:25 GMT
#333
I believe all of the maps aren't necessarily based off of the iCCup map pack, but rather, the maps that SSL/SOSPA uses. However, we've heard nothing from Lmaster about maps as he is quite busy so be possibly prepared to play on the maps for the following weeks to come, unfortunately.

Any updated results from SunKhan vs Stealth Bunnies yet?
twitch.tv/dizzywee
CrystalDrag
Profile Joined July 2010
173 Posts
September 02 2013 01:27 GMT
#334
might as well add Blood Bath and Challenger

@falling - there is no iccup map which has a high ground main -> ground natural -> high ground area past choke. Only on I can think of past proleague was Tears of the Protoss. Sniper ridge is the closest you will probably get... And that's just a ridge.

Mostly all maps are either
high ground main -> ground natural -> ground area past choke
or
low ground main -> high ground natural -> high ground area past choke...

There are some other ones, of course
low ground main -> high ground natural -> low ground area outside choke ~ only map to do this is (2)Chain Reaction, (2)Cross Game, and (4)Vin.
the inverse of this is Pamir Plateau.
there are no high ground main -> high ground natural (except for troy maybe)

but I have just been rambling on....
Birdie
Profile Blog Joined August 2007
New Zealand4438 Posts
September 02 2013 01:31 GMT
#335
On September 02 2013 10:25 SynC[gm] wrote:
I believe all of the maps aren't necessarily based off of the iCCup map pack, but rather, the maps that SSL/SOSPA uses. However, we've heard nothing from Lmaster about maps as he is quite busy so be possibly prepared to play on the maps for the following weeks to come, unfortunately.

Any updated results from SunKhan vs Stealth Bunnies yet?

Icedraco is asking for his opponent to play him even though he no showed.

Noddy and I are playing later today and tomorrow, then it'll be finished.
Red classic | A butterfly dreamed he was Zhuangzi | 4.5k, heading to 5k as support!
CrystalDrag
Profile Joined July 2010
173 Posts
September 02 2013 01:34 GMT
#336
hunny hawiting~~~
SynC[gm]
Profile Blog Joined October 2008
United States3127 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-09-02 04:12:17
September 02 2013 02:21 GMT
#337
Casting Hwaiting Oz vs SunKhan of Week 1 at http://twitch.tv/shuruken

LIVE!
twitch.tv/dizzywee
L_Master
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
United States8017 Posts
September 02 2013 02:35 GMT
#338
On September 02 2013 10:25 SynC[gm] wrote:
I believe all of the maps aren't necessarily based off of the iCCup map pack, but rather, the maps that SSL/SOSPA uses. However, we've heard nothing from Lmaster about maps as he is quite busy so be possibly prepared to play on the maps for the following weeks to come, unfortunately.

Any updated results from SunKhan vs Stealth Bunnies yet?




Nah. 815 will be replaced by Neo Jade.

Pamir will stay, at least through round 1. After round 1 I will probably change it for a 3P map of some sort.
EffOrt and Soulkey Hwaiting!
Cpt.beefy
Profile Blog Joined September 2006
Ireland799 Posts
September 02 2013 03:43 GMT
#339
On September 02 2013 10:27 CrystalDrag wrote:
might as well add Blood Bath and Challenger

@falling - there is no iccup map which has a high ground main -> ground natural -> high ground area past choke. Only on I can think of past proleague was Tears of the Protoss. Sniper ridge is the closest you will probably get... And that's just a ridge.

Mostly all maps are either
high ground main -> ground natural -> ground area past choke
or
low ground main -> high ground natural -> high ground area past choke...

There are some other ones, of course
low ground main -> high ground natural -> low ground area outside choke ~ only map to do this is (2)Chain Reaction, (2)Cross Game, and (4)Vin.
the inverse of this is Pamir Plateau.
there are no high ground main -> high ground natural (except for troy maybe)

but I have just been rambling on....




Appreciated

AA
Our Beloved Geoff "inControl" Robinson.
Dazed.
Profile Blog Joined March 2008
Canada3301 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-09-02 03:51:09
September 02 2013 03:50 GMT
#340
On September 02 2013 11:35 L_Master wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 02 2013 10:25 SynC[gm] wrote:
I believe all of the maps aren't necessarily based off of the iCCup map pack, but rather, the maps that SSL/SOSPA uses. However, we've heard nothing from Lmaster about maps as he is quite busy so be possibly prepared to play on the maps for the following weeks to come, unfortunately.

Any updated results from SunKhan vs Stealth Bunnies yet?




Nah. 815 will be replaced by Neo Jade.

Pamir will stay, at least through round 1. After round 1 I will probably change it for a 3P map of some sort.
Why are we replacing 815 with a map thats not used in SOSPA anymore, and was used just last season in DRTL, when we have far better alternatives like heartbreak ridge? -_-
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