• Log InLog In
  • Register
Liquid`
Team Liquid Liquipedia
EDT 20:44
CEST 02:44
KST 09:44
  • Home
  • Forum
  • Calendar
  • Streams
  • Liquipedia
  • Features
  • Store
  • EPT
  • TL+
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Smash
  • Heroes
  • Counter-Strike
  • Overwatch
  • Liquibet
  • Fantasy StarCraft
  • TLPD
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Blogs
Forum Sidebar
Events/Features
News
Featured News
[ASL22] Ro16 Preview: Rough Waters10[ASL22] Ro24 Preview: Siren's Call8[ASL22] Ro24 Preview: Summer's End9Serral wins HomeStory Cup 2915Serral wins Maestros of the Game 244
Community News
Weekly Cups (Aug 30-Sep 7): herO thrives amid growing schism10Official StarCraft website teases new content ahead of BlizzCon?129Stellar Fest TWO the Moon (Dec 16-20)9Weekly Cups (August 24-30): Patches' balance mod takes over3New 3v3 BGH Ladder (and more) on ShieldBattery!46
StarCraft 2
General
Team Liquid Map Contest #22: Results and Winners Balance hotfix patch 5.0.16b (July 16) Weekly Cups (Aug 30-Sep 7): herO thrives amid growing schism SC4ALL: II Winner will earn a spot at HSC 30! SC4ALL II: StarCraft 2 Player Announcement 7/8
Tourneys
KSL Week #92 IntoTheTV X SOOP SC2 League : Weekly & Monthly 2026 GSTL Announcement Sparkling Tuna Cup - Weekly Open Tournament Sea Duckling Open (Global, Bronze-Diamond)
Strategy
[G] Having the right mentality to improve
Custom Maps
Nexus Wars 2021 GUIDE [M] (2) Industrial Park
External Content
Mutation # 542 The Ascended Mutation # 541 Binary Choice The PondCast: SC2 News & Results Mutation # 540 Dodge This
Brood War
General
Official StarCraft website teases new content ahead of BlizzCon? [D] Brainstorming a balance patch for Brood war BGH Auto Balance -> http://bghmmr.eu/ Broodwar Prediction Market Terran or Protoss
Tourneys
Escore Tournament - Season 3 [ASL22] Ro16 Group B [ASL22] Ro16 Group A Small VOD Thread 2.0
Strategy
Replay Review Process - What do you do? Simple Questions, Simple Answers Odyssey Mineral Stack Saturation Game Theory for Starcraft
Other Games
General Games
EVE Corporation Nintendo Switch Thread Diablo IV [Maplestory Hardcore] Let's Play~!! General RTS Discussion Thread
Dota 2
Official 'what is Dota anymore' discussion
League of Legends
[TL LoL EUW IHs] Teemo shall perish TSM pausing esports and CLG Dead
Heroes of the Storm
Heroes of the Storm 2.0
Hearthstone
Deck construction bug
TL Mafia
TL Mafia Community Thread
Community
General
US Politics Mega-thread Things Aren’t Peaceful in Palestine Russo-Ukrainian War Thread European Politico-economics QA Mega-thread Trading/Investing Thread
Fan Clubs
MarineLorD Fan Club The Creator Fan Club The ShoWTimE Fan Club
Media & Entertainment
Movie Discussion!
Sports
Football (Soccer) Thread TeamLiquid Health and Fitness Initiative For 2023 MLB/Baseball 2023
World Cup 2022
Tech Support
Computer Build, Upgrade & Buying Resource Thread
TL Community
The Automated Ban List Northern Ireland Global Starcraft
Blogs
Virtual Romance, Real-Life C…
TrAiDoS
Regacy Esports:Our Goa…
regacyesports
Dreaming of BW patches (mod…
c3rberUs
LOCKPICKING NOOB
LUCKY_NOOB
Customize Sidebar...

Website Feedback

Closed Threads



Active: 9632 users

D Ranks Individual Tournament Season 6 - Page 29

Forum Index > Brood War Tournaments
Post a Reply
Prev 1 27 28 29 30 31 35 Next All
tonight
Profile Blog Joined November 2006
United States11130 Posts
July 23 2013 20:14 GMT
#561
Haha, all around cute
if I come without a thing, then I come with all I need @tonightsend
KazeHydra
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Japan2788 Posts
July 23 2013 20:16 GMT
#562
Nagi is always cute.
"Because I know this promise that won’t disappear will turn even a cause of tears into strength. You taught me that if I can believe, there is nothing that cannot come true." - Nana Mizuki (Yakusoku) 17:36 ils kaze got me into nana 17:36 ils by his blog
Nagisama
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Canada4481 Posts
July 23 2013 20:59 GMT
#563
On July 24 2013 04:58 tonight wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 24 2013 03:40 Nagisama wrote:
Replays are uploaded and in the 2nd post. Me and RedAxis will be casting KaiGreene/TheMarine at Wednesday, Jul 24 1:00am GMT (GMT+00:00) and maybe Sentenal/dazed_spy if there's time.


Two terrans casting a PvP. How cute.

For some reason the Protosses took the Terran games =\
Calendar"Everyone who has accomplished more than you has no life; Everyone who has accomplished less than you is a noob." | Elem: "nagi is actually really smart"
L_Master
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
United States8017 Posts
July 23 2013 21:02 GMT
#564
On July 24 2013 05:59 Nagisama wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 24 2013 04:58 tonight wrote:
On July 24 2013 03:40 Nagisama wrote:
Replays are uploaded and in the 2nd post. Me and RedAxis will be casting KaiGreene/TheMarine at Wednesday, Jul 24 1:00am GMT (GMT+00:00) and maybe Sentenal/dazed_spy if there's time.


Two terrans casting a PvP. How cute.

For some reason the Protosses took the Terran games =\


It was either take terran games or take courage games. Figured you wanted to cast your teamates
EffOrt and Soulkey Hwaiting!
tonight
Profile Blog Joined November 2006
United States11130 Posts
July 23 2013 21:07 GMT
#565
On July 24 2013 05:59 Nagisama wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 24 2013 04:58 tonight wrote:
On July 24 2013 03:40 Nagisama wrote:
Replays are uploaded and in the 2nd post. Me and RedAxis will be casting KaiGreene/TheMarine at Wednesday, Jul 24 1:00am GMT (GMT+00:00) and maybe Sentenal/dazed_spy if there's time.


Two terrans casting a PvP. How cute.

For some reason the Protosses took the Terran games =\


I'll come help
if I come without a thing, then I come with all I need @tonightsend
Nagisama
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Canada4481 Posts
July 24 2013 01:09 GMT
#566
Going live now!

http://www.teamliquid.net/video/streams/Nagisama
Calendar"Everyone who has accomplished more than you has no life; Everyone who has accomplished less than you is a noob." | Elem: "nagi is actually really smart"
L_Master
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
United States8017 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-07-24 02:34:52
July 24 2013 02:34 GMT
#567
I will be casting after Nagi. The stream is up BUT the embedded link to Ustream doesn't seem to be working correctly, so watch here: http://www.ustream.tv/channel/lm-central
EffOrt and Soulkey Hwaiting!
Birdie
Profile Blog Joined August 2007
New Zealand4438 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-07-24 03:47:23
July 24 2013 03:34 GMT
#568
You could switch to gamecreds, which does embed properly (and you can get some small monies for it maybe ;D).
+ Show Spoiler +

Nice marine control from RedAxis in game 2.


+ Show Spoiler +
As you said, I didn't respond to the 4gate properly. IIRC I saw his probe run towards his third and didn't think he could afford that many zealots. I've never faced 4gates before, rather annoyed I lost like that
Red classic | A butterfly dreamed he was Zhuangzi | 4.5k, heading to 5k as support!
ggrrg
Profile Blog Joined September 2009
Bulgaria2716 Posts
July 24 2013 04:23 GMT
#569
On July 24 2013 12:34 Birdie wrote:
You could switch to gamecreds, which does embed properly (and you can get some small monies for it maybe ;D).
+ Show Spoiler +

Nice marine control from RedAxis in game 2.


+ Show Spoiler +
As you said, I didn't respond to the 4gate properly. IIRC I saw his probe run towards his third and didn't think he could afford that many zealots. I've never faced 4gates before, rather annoyed I lost like that


+ Show Spoiler +

After I saw that I blocked my nexus, I just instantly 2-gated, but I actually felt like leaving because I couldn't imagine how I could possibly win. So I just decided to go as all-in as possible and add 2 more gates and hope that zealots are good :p
Birdie
Profile Blog Joined August 2007
New Zealand4438 Posts
July 24 2013 04:26 GMT
#570
On July 24 2013 13:23 ggrrg wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 24 2013 12:34 Birdie wrote:
You could switch to gamecreds, which does embed properly (and you can get some small monies for it maybe ;D).
+ Show Spoiler +

Nice marine control from RedAxis in game 2.


+ Show Spoiler +
As you said, I didn't respond to the 4gate properly. IIRC I saw his probe run towards his third and didn't think he could afford that many zealots. I've never faced 4gates before, rather annoyed I lost like that


+ Show Spoiler +

After I saw that I blocked my nexus, I just instantly 2-gated, but I actually felt like leaving because I couldn't imagine how I could possibly win. So I just decided to go as all-in as possible and add 2 more gates and hope that zealots are good :p

+ Show Spoiler +
Zealots are pretty good yo Now that I know how to defend 4gate I feel like I coulda held it easily, but at the time it was new for me.

As for game 2, with all due respect to RulZBoooM I tilted pretty hard
Red classic | A butterfly dreamed he was Zhuangzi | 4.5k, heading to 5k as support!
ggrrg
Profile Blog Joined September 2009
Bulgaria2716 Posts
July 24 2013 04:51 GMT
#571
On July 24 2013 13:26 Birdie wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 24 2013 13:23 ggrrg wrote:
On July 24 2013 12:34 Birdie wrote:
You could switch to gamecreds, which does embed properly (and you can get some small monies for it maybe ;D).
+ Show Spoiler +

Nice marine control from RedAxis in game 2.


+ Show Spoiler +
As you said, I didn't respond to the 4gate properly. IIRC I saw his probe run towards his third and didn't think he could afford that many zealots. I've never faced 4gates before, rather annoyed I lost like that


+ Show Spoiler +

After I saw that I blocked my nexus, I just instantly 2-gated, but I actually felt like leaving because I couldn't imagine how I could possibly win. So I just decided to go as all-in as possible and add 2 more gates and hope that zealots are good :p

+ Show Spoiler +
Zealots are pretty good yo Now that I know how to defend 4gate I feel like I coulda held it easily, but at the time it was new for me.

As for game 2, with all due respect to RulZBoooM I tilted pretty hard


+ Show Spoiler +

Understandable to tilt after such an unfortunate 1st game. I felt that something was off in game two since I normally do pretty poorly in late game PvZ. :p Also, the only "real" build I practiced for the series was +1 speedlot timing... and then I forgot the +1 -.-
Birdie
Profile Blog Joined August 2007
New Zealand4438 Posts
July 24 2013 04:57 GMT
#572
On July 24 2013 13:51 ggrrg wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 24 2013 13:26 Birdie wrote:
On July 24 2013 13:23 ggrrg wrote:
On July 24 2013 12:34 Birdie wrote:
You could switch to gamecreds, which does embed properly (and you can get some small monies for it maybe ;D).
+ Show Spoiler +

Nice marine control from RedAxis in game 2.


+ Show Spoiler +
As you said, I didn't respond to the 4gate properly. IIRC I saw his probe run towards his third and didn't think he could afford that many zealots. I've never faced 4gates before, rather annoyed I lost like that


+ Show Spoiler +

After I saw that I blocked my nexus, I just instantly 2-gated, but I actually felt like leaving because I couldn't imagine how I could possibly win. So I just decided to go as all-in as possible and add 2 more gates and hope that zealots are good :p

+ Show Spoiler +
Zealots are pretty good yo Now that I know how to defend 4gate I feel like I coulda held it easily, but at the time it was new for me.

As for game 2, with all due respect to RulZBoooM I tilted pretty hard


+ Show Spoiler +

Understandable to tilt after such an unfortunate 1st game. I felt that something was off in game two since I normally do pretty poorly in late game PvZ. :p Also, the only "real" build I practiced for the series was +1 speedlot timing... and then I forgot the +1 -.-

+ Show Spoiler +
Incidentally I found at least 6 replays of yourself, hence the somewhat blind 2gate counter in game 1. (you 2gated a lot in the games I watched). Game 2 I didn't do my plan, which was to ling all in (I knew you couldn't wall properly on FS so I suspected the same would be true in bloody ridge). If I had done that I think I would have won. Ah well, we live and learn
Red classic | A butterfly dreamed he was Zhuangzi | 4.5k, heading to 5k as support!
L_Master
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
United States8017 Posts
July 24 2013 05:01 GMT
#573
Art of Turtle will be casting myself v prophecy on his stream following the end of my cast.
EffOrt and Soulkey Hwaiting!
ggrrg
Profile Blog Joined September 2009
Bulgaria2716 Posts
July 24 2013 05:06 GMT
#574
On July 24 2013 13:57 Birdie wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 24 2013 13:51 ggrrg wrote:
On July 24 2013 13:26 Birdie wrote:
On July 24 2013 13:23 ggrrg wrote:
On July 24 2013 12:34 Birdie wrote:
You could switch to gamecreds, which does embed properly (and you can get some small monies for it maybe ;D).
+ Show Spoiler +

Nice marine control from RedAxis in game 2.


+ Show Spoiler +
As you said, I didn't respond to the 4gate properly. IIRC I saw his probe run towards his third and didn't think he could afford that many zealots. I've never faced 4gates before, rather annoyed I lost like that


+ Show Spoiler +

After I saw that I blocked my nexus, I just instantly 2-gated, but I actually felt like leaving because I couldn't imagine how I could possibly win. So I just decided to go as all-in as possible and add 2 more gates and hope that zealots are good :p

+ Show Spoiler +
Zealots are pretty good yo Now that I know how to defend 4gate I feel like I coulda held it easily, but at the time it was new for me.

As for game 2, with all due respect to RulZBoooM I tilted pretty hard


+ Show Spoiler +

Understandable to tilt after such an unfortunate 1st game. I felt that something was off in game two since I normally do pretty poorly in late game PvZ. :p Also, the only "real" build I practiced for the series was +1 speedlot timing... and then I forgot the +1 -.-

+ Show Spoiler +
Incidentally I found at least 6 replays of yourself, hence the somewhat blind 2gate counter in game 1. (you 2gated a lot in the games I watched). Game 2 I didn't do my plan, which was to ling all in (I knew you couldn't wall properly on FS so I suspected the same would be true in bloody ridge). If I had done that I think I would have won. Ah well, we live and learn


+ Show Spoiler +

Where the hell did you get my replays!? xD
I 2-gated quite a bit on ladder, because I saw how themarine beat aeghrur with a 2-gate and it looked so easy and strong. However, after doing it about 10 times on ladder, I saw that it can be quite weak actually. I also figured that a short look on my iccup profile will let you know how many short PvZs I had recently and you'll probably prepare against a 2-gate even without having replays of mine. That's why I decided to drop the 2 gate and just do +1 speedlot twice in a row... which didn't work out because I manner pyloned myself in game one and failed the build in game 2...
By the way, another reason why I decided to try +1 speedlot is because in your game against arca I got the feeling that you're the kind of zerg to cut army, drone up heavily and try to overwhelm the toss in the late game.
Ilikestarcraft
Profile Blog Joined November 2004
Korea (South)17743 Posts
July 24 2013 05:07 GMT
#575
So much manner between you two.
ils
"Nana is a goddess. Or at very least, Nana is my goddess." - KazeHydra
Birdie
Profile Blog Joined August 2007
New Zealand4438 Posts
July 24 2013 05:11 GMT
#576
On July 24 2013 14:06 ggrrg wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 24 2013 13:57 Birdie wrote:
On July 24 2013 13:51 ggrrg wrote:
On July 24 2013 13:26 Birdie wrote:
On July 24 2013 13:23 ggrrg wrote:
On July 24 2013 12:34 Birdie wrote:
You could switch to gamecreds, which does embed properly (and you can get some small monies for it maybe ;D).
+ Show Spoiler +

Nice marine control from RedAxis in game 2.


+ Show Spoiler +
As you said, I didn't respond to the 4gate properly. IIRC I saw his probe run towards his third and didn't think he could afford that many zealots. I've never faced 4gates before, rather annoyed I lost like that


+ Show Spoiler +

After I saw that I blocked my nexus, I just instantly 2-gated, but I actually felt like leaving because I couldn't imagine how I could possibly win. So I just decided to go as all-in as possible and add 2 more gates and hope that zealots are good :p

+ Show Spoiler +
Zealots are pretty good yo Now that I know how to defend 4gate I feel like I coulda held it easily, but at the time it was new for me.

As for game 2, with all due respect to RulZBoooM I tilted pretty hard


+ Show Spoiler +

Understandable to tilt after such an unfortunate 1st game. I felt that something was off in game two since I normally do pretty poorly in late game PvZ. :p Also, the only "real" build I practiced for the series was +1 speedlot timing... and then I forgot the +1 -.-

+ Show Spoiler +
Incidentally I found at least 6 replays of yourself, hence the somewhat blind 2gate counter in game 1. (you 2gated a lot in the games I watched). Game 2 I didn't do my plan, which was to ling all in (I knew you couldn't wall properly on FS so I suspected the same would be true in bloody ridge). If I had done that I think I would have won. Ah well, we live and learn


+ Show Spoiler +

Where the hell did you get my replays!? xD
I 2-gated quite a bit on ladder, because I saw how themarine beat aeghrur with a 2-gate and it looked so easy and strong. However, after doing it about 10 times on ladder, I saw that it can be quite weak actually. I also figured that a short look on my iccup profile will let you know how many short PvZs I had recently and you'll probably prepare against a 2-gate even without having replays of mine. That's why I decided to drop the 2 gate and just do +1 speedlot twice in a row... which didn't work out because I manner pyloned myself in game one and failed the build in game 2...
By the way, another reason why I decided to try +1 speedlot is because in your game against arca I got the feeling that you're the kind of zerg to cut army, drone up heavily and try to overwhelm the toss in the late game.

+ Show Spoiler +
I actually just PMed people in your matchlist for replays haha. I'm usually fine vs speedlot, but I played differently vs arca because he doesn't usually do speedlot attacks. To be honest I wasn't too sure what to expect for your mid/late game because most of the reps I had of you didn't have any mid or late game, just once you made heaps of goons. Hence the mass sunkens in game 2.
Red classic | A butterfly dreamed he was Zhuangzi | 4.5k, heading to 5k as support!
ggrrg
Profile Blog Joined September 2009
Bulgaria2716 Posts
July 24 2013 05:19 GMT
#577
On July 24 2013 14:11 Birdie wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 24 2013 14:06 ggrrg wrote:
On July 24 2013 13:57 Birdie wrote:
On July 24 2013 13:51 ggrrg wrote:
On July 24 2013 13:26 Birdie wrote:
On July 24 2013 13:23 ggrrg wrote:
On July 24 2013 12:34 Birdie wrote:
You could switch to gamecreds, which does embed properly (and you can get some small monies for it maybe ;D).
+ Show Spoiler +

Nice marine control from RedAxis in game 2.


+ Show Spoiler +
As you said, I didn't respond to the 4gate properly. IIRC I saw his probe run towards his third and didn't think he could afford that many zealots. I've never faced 4gates before, rather annoyed I lost like that


+ Show Spoiler +

After I saw that I blocked my nexus, I just instantly 2-gated, but I actually felt like leaving because I couldn't imagine how I could possibly win. So I just decided to go as all-in as possible and add 2 more gates and hope that zealots are good :p

+ Show Spoiler +
Zealots are pretty good yo Now that I know how to defend 4gate I feel like I coulda held it easily, but at the time it was new for me.

As for game 2, with all due respect to RulZBoooM I tilted pretty hard


+ Show Spoiler +

Understandable to tilt after such an unfortunate 1st game. I felt that something was off in game two since I normally do pretty poorly in late game PvZ. :p Also, the only "real" build I practiced for the series was +1 speedlot timing... and then I forgot the +1 -.-

+ Show Spoiler +
Incidentally I found at least 6 replays of yourself, hence the somewhat blind 2gate counter in game 1. (you 2gated a lot in the games I watched). Game 2 I didn't do my plan, which was to ling all in (I knew you couldn't wall properly on FS so I suspected the same would be true in bloody ridge). If I had done that I think I would have won. Ah well, we live and learn


+ Show Spoiler +

Where the hell did you get my replays!? xD
I 2-gated quite a bit on ladder, because I saw how themarine beat aeghrur with a 2-gate and it looked so easy and strong. However, after doing it about 10 times on ladder, I saw that it can be quite weak actually. I also figured that a short look on my iccup profile will let you know how many short PvZs I had recently and you'll probably prepare against a 2-gate even without having replays of mine. That's why I decided to drop the 2 gate and just do +1 speedlot twice in a row... which didn't work out because I manner pyloned myself in game one and failed the build in game 2...
By the way, another reason why I decided to try +1 speedlot is because in your game against arca I got the feeling that you're the kind of zerg to cut army, drone up heavily and try to overwhelm the toss in the late game.

+ Show Spoiler +
I actually just PMed people in your matchlist for replays haha. I'm usually fine vs speedlot, but I played differently vs arca because he doesn't usually do speedlot attacks. To be honest I wasn't too sure what to expect for your mid/late game because most of the reps I had of you didn't have any mid or late game, just once you made heaps of goons. Hence the mass sunkens in game 2.


+ Show Spoiler +

What a commitment PM'ing random people ^^
I tried the mass goon all-in 3-4 times, because themarine was telling me how insanely strong it is after he saw draw beating technics with it. Well, either the all-in is terrible or I just can't follow a simple build order, because I got utterly crushed every single time I tried it...
Birdie
Profile Blog Joined August 2007
New Zealand4438 Posts
July 24 2013 05:22 GMT
#578
On July 24 2013 14:19 ggrrg wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 24 2013 14:11 Birdie wrote:
On July 24 2013 14:06 ggrrg wrote:
On July 24 2013 13:57 Birdie wrote:
On July 24 2013 13:51 ggrrg wrote:
On July 24 2013 13:26 Birdie wrote:
On July 24 2013 13:23 ggrrg wrote:
On July 24 2013 12:34 Birdie wrote:
You could switch to gamecreds, which does embed properly (and you can get some small monies for it maybe ;D).
+ Show Spoiler +

Nice marine control from RedAxis in game 2.


+ Show Spoiler +
As you said, I didn't respond to the 4gate properly. IIRC I saw his probe run towards his third and didn't think he could afford that many zealots. I've never faced 4gates before, rather annoyed I lost like that


+ Show Spoiler +

After I saw that I blocked my nexus, I just instantly 2-gated, but I actually felt like leaving because I couldn't imagine how I could possibly win. So I just decided to go as all-in as possible and add 2 more gates and hope that zealots are good :p

+ Show Spoiler +
Zealots are pretty good yo Now that I know how to defend 4gate I feel like I coulda held it easily, but at the time it was new for me.

As for game 2, with all due respect to RulZBoooM I tilted pretty hard


+ Show Spoiler +

Understandable to tilt after such an unfortunate 1st game. I felt that something was off in game two since I normally do pretty poorly in late game PvZ. :p Also, the only "real" build I practiced for the series was +1 speedlot timing... and then I forgot the +1 -.-

+ Show Spoiler +
Incidentally I found at least 6 replays of yourself, hence the somewhat blind 2gate counter in game 1. (you 2gated a lot in the games I watched). Game 2 I didn't do my plan, which was to ling all in (I knew you couldn't wall properly on FS so I suspected the same would be true in bloody ridge). If I had done that I think I would have won. Ah well, we live and learn


+ Show Spoiler +

Where the hell did you get my replays!? xD
I 2-gated quite a bit on ladder, because I saw how themarine beat aeghrur with a 2-gate and it looked so easy and strong. However, after doing it about 10 times on ladder, I saw that it can be quite weak actually. I also figured that a short look on my iccup profile will let you know how many short PvZs I had recently and you'll probably prepare against a 2-gate even without having replays of mine. That's why I decided to drop the 2 gate and just do +1 speedlot twice in a row... which didn't work out because I manner pyloned myself in game one and failed the build in game 2...
By the way, another reason why I decided to try +1 speedlot is because in your game against arca I got the feeling that you're the kind of zerg to cut army, drone up heavily and try to overwhelm the toss in the late game.

+ Show Spoiler +
I actually just PMed people in your matchlist for replays haha. I'm usually fine vs speedlot, but I played differently vs arca because he doesn't usually do speedlot attacks. To be honest I wasn't too sure what to expect for your mid/late game because most of the reps I had of you didn't have any mid or late game, just once you made heaps of goons. Hence the mass sunkens in game 2.


+ Show Spoiler +

What a commitment PM'ing random people ^^
I tried the mass goon all-in 3-4 times, because themarine was telling me how insanely strong it is after he saw draw beating technics with it. Well, either the all-in is terrible or I just can't follow a simple build order, because I got utterly crushed every single time I tried it...

+ Show Spoiler +
Happily TheMarine tried it vs me also. First game he beat me soundly, second game I destroyed it. Just make sunkens and it loses basically. One of the big things that holds me back is lack of that kind of knowledge though, like that 4gate is something new to me, standard stuff is more easy to counter but anything that's not standard is where my lack of game experience kills me.
Red classic | A butterfly dreamed he was Zhuangzi | 4.5k, heading to 5k as support!
ggrrg
Profile Blog Joined September 2009
Bulgaria2716 Posts
July 24 2013 05:27 GMT
#579
On July 24 2013 14:22 Birdie wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 24 2013 14:19 ggrrg wrote:
On July 24 2013 14:11 Birdie wrote:
On July 24 2013 14:06 ggrrg wrote:
On July 24 2013 13:57 Birdie wrote:
On July 24 2013 13:51 ggrrg wrote:
On July 24 2013 13:26 Birdie wrote:
On July 24 2013 13:23 ggrrg wrote:
On July 24 2013 12:34 Birdie wrote:
You could switch to gamecreds, which does embed properly (and you can get some small monies for it maybe ;D).
+ Show Spoiler +

Nice marine control from RedAxis in game 2.


+ Show Spoiler +
As you said, I didn't respond to the 4gate properly. IIRC I saw his probe run towards his third and didn't think he could afford that many zealots. I've never faced 4gates before, rather annoyed I lost like that


+ Show Spoiler +

After I saw that I blocked my nexus, I just instantly 2-gated, but I actually felt like leaving because I couldn't imagine how I could possibly win. So I just decided to go as all-in as possible and add 2 more gates and hope that zealots are good :p

+ Show Spoiler +
Zealots are pretty good yo Now that I know how to defend 4gate I feel like I coulda held it easily, but at the time it was new for me.

As for game 2, with all due respect to RulZBoooM I tilted pretty hard


+ Show Spoiler +

Understandable to tilt after such an unfortunate 1st game. I felt that something was off in game two since I normally do pretty poorly in late game PvZ. :p Also, the only "real" build I practiced for the series was +1 speedlot timing... and then I forgot the +1 -.-

+ Show Spoiler +
Incidentally I found at least 6 replays of yourself, hence the somewhat blind 2gate counter in game 1. (you 2gated a lot in the games I watched). Game 2 I didn't do my plan, which was to ling all in (I knew you couldn't wall properly on FS so I suspected the same would be true in bloody ridge). If I had done that I think I would have won. Ah well, we live and learn


+ Show Spoiler +

Where the hell did you get my replays!? xD
I 2-gated quite a bit on ladder, because I saw how themarine beat aeghrur with a 2-gate and it looked so easy and strong. However, after doing it about 10 times on ladder, I saw that it can be quite weak actually. I also figured that a short look on my iccup profile will let you know how many short PvZs I had recently and you'll probably prepare against a 2-gate even without having replays of mine. That's why I decided to drop the 2 gate and just do +1 speedlot twice in a row... which didn't work out because I manner pyloned myself in game one and failed the build in game 2...
By the way, another reason why I decided to try +1 speedlot is because in your game against arca I got the feeling that you're the kind of zerg to cut army, drone up heavily and try to overwhelm the toss in the late game.

+ Show Spoiler +
I actually just PMed people in your matchlist for replays haha. I'm usually fine vs speedlot, but I played differently vs arca because he doesn't usually do speedlot attacks. To be honest I wasn't too sure what to expect for your mid/late game because most of the reps I had of you didn't have any mid or late game, just once you made heaps of goons. Hence the mass sunkens in game 2.


+ Show Spoiler +

What a commitment PM'ing random people ^^
I tried the mass goon all-in 3-4 times, because themarine was telling me how insanely strong it is after he saw draw beating technics with it. Well, either the all-in is terrible or I just can't follow a simple build order, because I got utterly crushed every single time I tried it...

+ Show Spoiler +
Happily TheMarine tried it vs me also. First game he beat me soundly, second game I destroyed it. Just make sunkens and it loses basically. One of the big things that holds me back is lack of that kind of knowledge though, like that 4gate is something new to me, standard stuff is more easy to counter but anything that's not standard is where my lack of game experience kills me.



+ Show Spoiler +

Good thing I dropped using goons then :D And yeah, I also feel really uncomfortable against non-standard stuff. By the way, the 4 gate was neither a planned build, nor anything I have ever done before. It was just a desperate attempt to salvage a total disaster...
L_Master
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
United States8017 Posts
July 24 2013 05:36 GMT
#580
On July 24 2013 14:19 ggrrg wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 24 2013 14:11 Birdie wrote:
On July 24 2013 14:06 ggrrg wrote:
On July 24 2013 13:57 Birdie wrote:
On July 24 2013 13:51 ggrrg wrote:
On July 24 2013 13:26 Birdie wrote:
On July 24 2013 13:23 ggrrg wrote:
On July 24 2013 12:34 Birdie wrote:
You could switch to gamecreds, which does embed properly (and you can get some small monies for it maybe ;D).
+ Show Spoiler +

Nice marine control from RedAxis in game 2.


+ Show Spoiler +
As you said, I didn't respond to the 4gate properly. IIRC I saw his probe run towards his third and didn't think he could afford that many zealots. I've never faced 4gates before, rather annoyed I lost like that


+ Show Spoiler +

After I saw that I blocked my nexus, I just instantly 2-gated, but I actually felt like leaving because I couldn't imagine how I could possibly win. So I just decided to go as all-in as possible and add 2 more gates and hope that zealots are good :p

+ Show Spoiler +
Zealots are pretty good yo Now that I know how to defend 4gate I feel like I coulda held it easily, but at the time it was new for me.

As for game 2, with all due respect to RulZBoooM I tilted pretty hard


+ Show Spoiler +

Understandable to tilt after such an unfortunate 1st game. I felt that something was off in game two since I normally do pretty poorly in late game PvZ. :p Also, the only "real" build I practiced for the series was +1 speedlot timing... and then I forgot the +1 -.-

+ Show Spoiler +
Incidentally I found at least 6 replays of yourself, hence the somewhat blind 2gate counter in game 1. (you 2gated a lot in the games I watched). Game 2 I didn't do my plan, which was to ling all in (I knew you couldn't wall properly on FS so I suspected the same would be true in bloody ridge). If I had done that I think I would have won. Ah well, we live and learn


+ Show Spoiler +

Where the hell did you get my replays!? xD
I 2-gated quite a bit on ladder, because I saw how themarine beat aeghrur with a 2-gate and it looked so easy and strong. However, after doing it about 10 times on ladder, I saw that it can be quite weak actually. I also figured that a short look on my iccup profile will let you know how many short PvZs I had recently and you'll probably prepare against a 2-gate even without having replays of mine. That's why I decided to drop the 2 gate and just do +1 speedlot twice in a row... which didn't work out because I manner pyloned myself in game one and failed the build in game 2...
By the way, another reason why I decided to try +1 speedlot is because in your game against arca I got the feeling that you're the kind of zerg to cut army, drone up heavily and try to overwhelm the toss in the late game.

+ Show Spoiler +
I actually just PMed people in your matchlist for replays haha. I'm usually fine vs speedlot, but I played differently vs arca because he doesn't usually do speedlot attacks. To be honest I wasn't too sure what to expect for your mid/late game because most of the reps I had of you didn't have any mid or late game, just once you made heaps of goons. Hence the mass sunkens in game 2.


+ Show Spoiler +

What a commitment PM'ing random people ^^
I tried the mass goon all-in 3-4 times, because themarine was telling me how insanely strong it is after he saw draw beating technics with it. Well, either the all-in is terrible or I just can't follow a simple build order, because I got utterly crushed every single time I tried it...


Make sure the timings are right, if you are off it can fail very easily. An extra 20-30 seconds can mean an extra half control group or more of hydras/lings out.
EffOrt and Soulkey Hwaiting!
Prev 1 27 28 29 30 31 35 Next All
Please log in or register to reply.
Live Events Refresh
The PiG Daily
22:30
Best Games of GSTL
PiGStarcraft560
LiquipediaDiscussion
[ Submit Event ]
Live Streams
Refresh
StarCraft 2
PiGStarcraft560
ViBE152
StarCraft: Brood War
NaDa 42
Dota 2
monkeys_forever688
NeuroSwarm143
canceldota111
League of Legends
Doublelift4603
Counter-Strike
fl0m2281
taco 278
minikerr37
Other Games
summit1g7804
shahzam496
JimRising 389
XaKoH 151
C9.Mang0128
PPMD32
Organizations
Other Games
BasetradeTV20
[ Show 13 non-featured ]
StarCraft 2
• Hupsaiya 105
• EnkiAlexander 6
• AfreecaTV YouTube
• intothetv
• Kozan
• IndyKCrew
• Migwel
StarCraft: Brood War
• BSLYoutube
• STPLYoutube
• ZZZeroYoutube
Dota 2
• masondota22336
Other Games
• imaqtpie834
• Shiphtur132
Upcoming Events
CranKy Ducklings
9h 16m
WardiTV Invitational
10h 16m
Cure vs Zoun
SHIN vs Classic
ByuN vs MaxPax
Percival vs YoungYakov
AI Arena Tournament
16h 16m
OSC
19h 46m
Sparkling Tuna Cup
1d 9h
WardiTV Invitational
1d 10h
Shopify Rebellion Sundays
1d 14h
Spirit vs Mixu
Clem vs TBD
RSL Revival
1d 15h
Serral vs Rogue
BlizzCon
1d 17h
IdrA vs MC
Replay Cast
1d 23h
[ Show More ]
Afreeca Starleague
2 days
Light vs JyJ
Soulkey vs hero
WardiTV Weekly
2 days
Monday Night Weeklies
2 days
Afreeca Starleague
3 days
Snow vs Shinee
Shine vs EffOrt
GSL
3 days
PiGosaur Cup
3 days
The PondCast
4 days
Kung Fu Cup
4 days
Replay Cast
4 days
KCM Race Survival
5 days
IntoTheTV X SOOP
5 days
Replay Cast
5 days
IntoTheTV X SOOP
6 days
Replay Cast
6 days
Liquipedia Results

Completed

Acropolis #5 - TRS
PiG Sty Festival 8.0
Big Dog Cup 2026 Div 1

Ongoing

KCM Race Survival 2026 Season 3
K-JUNGMAN
ASL Season 22
Super Anchor Qualifying S3
CSL 2026 AUTUMN (S22)
Acropolis #5
Acropolis #5 - GSA
RSL Revival: Season 6
Calamity Invitational
FISSURE Playground #3
BLAST Open Fall 2026
Esports World Cup 2026
BLAST Bounty Summer 2026
BLAST Bounty Summer Qual
Stake Ranked Episode 3
XSE Pro League 2026

Upcoming

Blizzard Classic Cup 2026
Acropolis #5 - GSB
Acropolis #5 - GSC
SC4ALL II: Brood War
HSC XXX
Stellar Fest 2: Lunar Cup
SC4ALL II: StarCraft II
Kung Fu Cup 2026 Grand Finals
RSL Offline Finals
Blizzard Classic Cup 2026
Stake Ranked Episode 6
BLAST Rivals Fall 2026
IEM Beijing 2026
Stake Ranked Episode 5
PGL Masters Bucharest 2026
1win Private Club #2
Thunderpick World Champ. '26
ESL Pro League Season 24
Stake Ranked Episode 4
1win Private Club #1
Logitech G Play Connect 2026
SL StarSeries Fall 2026
TLPD

1. ByuN
2. TY
3. Dark
4. Solar
5. Stats
6. Nerchio
7. sOs
8. soO
9. INnoVation
10. Elazer
1. Rain
2. Flash
3. EffOrt
4. Last
5. Bisu
6. Soulkey
7. Mini
8. Sharp
Sidebar Settings...

Advertising | Privacy Policy | Terms Of Use | Contact Us

Original banner artwork: Jim Warren
The contents of this webpage are copyright © 2026 TLnet. All Rights Reserved.