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Live2Win *
Profile Blog Joined July 2004
United States6657 Posts
Last Edited: 2006-05-30 06:35:41
May 30 2006 04:03 GMT
#1
This is how WCG Korea is working this year.... (it's sort of complicated)

First of all, there are 3 rounds.
1st Round is the "Nominated Progamer's Qualification Round"
2nd Round is the "Qualification Round"
3rd Round is the "Final Qualification Round"
There's also an "Amateur's Round", where only amateur players compete for the Final Qualificaton Round.
(note: These names are my translated versions. Other's may call them something different.)

Let's start from the bottom.

Round 1, the "Nominated Progamer's Qualification Round" consists of 22 people. These people are those who were nominated from each Progaming Team, 2 players per team. Since there's 11 teams and only 2 players per team, that makes... 22 people!!! They are divided into 6 groups, with 2 groups having a bye. First place from each group advance to the 2nd Round. (This makes 6 people)

For the 2nd Round, the KeSPA ranked progamers from 4~30 minus last year's WCG winner (fOru), (so it's 26 players) are automatically included for this round along with the 6 players from the "Nominated Progamer's Qualification Round". So, this round will include a total of 32 players. (6 players from Round 1 + KeSPA Ranks #4 ~ 26, minus fOru). They will be divided into 8 groups, single elmination. First place from each group advances to 3rd Round (8 players).

Sometime before the 3rd Round, there will be an Amateur Qualification Round held for all non-progamers to play. 4 players will advance to the 3rd Round.

For the 3rd Round, 4 people are seeded. First is last year's WCG Winner (fOru). And the other 3 are the top 3 KeSPA ranked progamers of June. This round will consist of 16 players. The 4 seeded players, the 8 players from Round 2, and 4 Amateurs who qualified from the Amateur Qualification Round. Lastly the top 3 will go to WCG.

Dates:
Round 1: May 30th
Round 2: June 5th ~ July 11th (Every Monday and Tuesday) Time: 1PM Korea Time (12AM EST)
Round 3: August 5th ~ August 6th

Maps:
Round 1: 815 III, Rush Hour 3.0, Arcadia
Round 2: 815 III, Rush Hour 3.0, Arcadia
Round 3: The three WCG Maps + Rush Hour 3.0


The first round has been played, and the link can be found here.
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SuperJongMan
Profile Blog Joined March 2003
Jamaica11586 Posts
May 30 2006 04:07 GMT
#2
감사 ~_~ Right as I asked if ForU gets a seed in another thread, this pops up!
Thank You.
My Question is... what happens to Kespa 1-3? -_-;; They just don't want to play?
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racebannon
Profile Joined January 2004
Canada1225 Posts
May 30 2006 04:09 GMT
#3
kespa 1-3 get instant byes to the final round along with Foru
when they really get to know you they will run
DaZe
Profile Joined November 2003
Sweden2111 Posts
May 30 2006 04:12 GMT
#4
"For the 3rd Round, 4 people are seeded. First is last year's WCG Winner (fOru). And the other 3 are the top 3 KeSPA ranked progamers of June"
SayGG
Profile Joined January 2006
Germany676 Posts
May 30 2006 04:14 GMT
#5
Thanks! This was really needed after all this confusion is the other thread.
QuietIdiot
Profile Blog Joined October 2005
7004 Posts
May 30 2006 04:14 GMT
#6
so I'm guessing Iloveoov + Julyzerg + Pusan are top 3 Kespa ranks right?

..my dream team = Foru + July + Iloveoov/Boxer for WCG TT
puLs.ReADy
Profile Joined November 2005
Bulgaria1301 Posts
May 30 2006 04:20 GMT
#7
gl ZERGS! i want 3 ZERGS !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Etto
Profile Joined September 2005
Spain160 Posts
May 30 2006 04:49 GMT
#8
Boxer + Silent + GoodFriend = 4 mins awesome games against foreigners
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Live2Win *
Profile Blog Joined July 2004
United States6657 Posts
May 30 2006 04:49 GMT
#9
On May 30 2006 13:14 QuietIdiot wrote:
so I'm guessing Iloveoov + Julyzerg + Pusan are top 3 Kespa ranks right?

..my dream team = Foru + July + Iloveoov/Boxer for WCG TT


of May. We don't know who's where yet in June, and these three have been doing horrible. But probably Oov won't drop 3 spots.
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funkie
Profile Blog Joined November 2005
Venezuela9376 Posts
May 30 2006 04:53 GMT
#10
On May 30 2006 13:20 puLs.ReADy wrote:
gl ZERGS! i want 3 ZERGS !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


Hell Yeah!
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Xeofreestyler
Profile Blog Joined June 2005
Belgium6774 Posts
May 30 2006 05:06 GMT
#11
GO
BOXER
Graphics
StarN
Profile Blog Joined November 2004
United States2587 Posts
Last Edited: 2006-05-30 05:14:26
May 30 2006 05:13 GMT
#12
I hope Nal_rA gets it
Retired BW Noob
puLs.ReADy
Profile Joined November 2005
Bulgaria1301 Posts
May 30 2006 05:17 GMT
#13
i hope IPX to win wcg korea wcg, then in italy i will show how he should play zvz ! yeaah
Asta
Profile Joined October 2002
Germany3491 Posts
May 30 2006 05:19 GMT
#14
this format seems a lot better than the previous ones. but why the hell do they let the amateurs bypass the first two rounds and put them directly to the final round? that is really weird. basicly they pretend that the top4 amateurs would be as good as the top8 pros (minus the four other seeds) which is obviously wrong. how many amateurs are playing in major leagues?
maybe the wcg wants to follow the olympic way where there have always been rules to reduce the number of professionals competing.

i just hope they will use the tv-league-maps for the national prelims so the progamers will eliminate the amateurs.
Polemarch
Profile Joined August 2005
Canada1564 Posts
May 30 2006 05:29 GMT
#15
i'm sure getting the spots for the 4 amateurs is going to be really really hard, so the nominated progamers and kespa 4-30 will have an easier time getting there. the amateur round probably includes semi-pros as well
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SayGG
Profile Joined January 2006
Germany676 Posts
Last Edited: 2006-05-30 05:38:22
May 30 2006 05:32 GMT
#16
Is this the current ranking for the amateurs?

kr.worldcybergames.com

Edit: This is the same ranking, but with some reps at the bottom of the page:
www.wcgzone.com
Luhh
Profile Joined October 2003
Sweden2974 Posts
May 30 2006 05:36 GMT
#17
Didn't they use this last year? I remember that they separated Amateurs and pro's then also.

It seems odd that the nominated have to qualify in two rounds, but I guess the first group stage is a wild card thingy for those who aren't seeded good enough, so perhaps it makes sense.
I wouldn´t call him stupid, but let´s just say he´s unlucky when thinking...
Asta
Profile Joined October 2002
Germany3491 Posts
May 30 2006 05:47 GMT
#18
On May 30 2006 14:29 Polemarch wrote:
i'm sure getting the spots for the 4 amateurs is going to be really really hard, so the nominated progamers and kespa 4-30 will have an easier time getting there. the amateur round probably includes semi-pros as well



that depends on how you define 'hard'. judging only by opponent-skill the amateur-tourneys will never be as hard as the pro-tourneys. anyway, what difference does it make how hard someones way to the finals was? if he is in and another player that could have beat him any day is out something went wrong.
Live2Win *
Profile Blog Joined July 2004
United States6657 Posts
May 30 2006 06:37 GMT
#19
updated with maps and other minor stuff
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Frits
Profile Joined March 2003
11782 Posts
May 30 2006 06:44 GMT
#20
I swear to god please let it be boxer this year.
haduken
Profile Blog Joined April 2003
Australia8267 Posts
May 30 2006 08:25 GMT
#21
Did they follow the WCG rules where the winner of regional from last year are auto-in for the grand final of regional?
Rillanon.au
Corinthos *
Profile Blog Joined February 2006
Canada1842 Posts
May 30 2006 10:21 GMT
#22
Thanks Live2Win.
IdrA
Profile Blog Joined July 2004
United States11541 Posts
May 30 2006 10:33 GMT
#23
On May 30 2006 14:47 Asta wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 30 2006 14:29 Polemarch wrote:
i'm sure getting the spots for the 4 amateurs is going to be really really hard, so the nominated progamers and kespa 4-30 will have an easier time getting there. the amateur round probably includes semi-pros as well



that depends on how you define 'hard'. judging only by opponent-skill the amateur-tourneys will never be as hard as the pro-tourneys. anyway, what difference does it make how hard someones way to the finals was? if he is in and another player that could have beat him any day is out something went wrong.

no, because better player isnt an absolute thing. it all depends on style, race, etc, meaning a player maybe beat player 1 but not player 2, but player 2 could still beat player 1. theres no way to account for that, you just have to accept it.
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YunhOLee
Profile Blog Joined April 2005
Canada2470 Posts
May 30 2006 11:03 GMT
#24
why pro gamers dont play the wcg maps in first and second round?
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Zeto
Profile Joined January 2005
United States2290 Posts
May 30 2006 15:51 GMT
#25
I hope they release replays this year of the progamers.

VODs like last year aren't as cool
hay hay mayé, todos los negros tomamos maté!
ToT)MidiaN(
Profile Blog Joined May 2003
England2183 Posts
May 30 2006 17:15 GMT
#26
Maybe they know something about the map that is replacing estrella?!
Nothing worth doing is devoid of risk
Cedric
Profile Joined September 2004
Hungary186 Posts
May 30 2006 17:46 GMT
#27
On May 31 2006 02:15 ToT)MidiaN( wrote:
Maybe they know something about the map that is replacing estrella?!


i hope rush hour will be the 4th map ^^
Hungary Fighting :P
Beamo
Profile Joined March 2003
France1279 Posts
May 30 2006 18:04 GMT
#28
On May 30 2006 13:03 Live2Win wrote:
This is how WCG Korea is working this year.... (it's sort of complicated)

For the 2nd Round, the KeSPA ranked progamers from 4~30 minus last year's WCG winner (fOru), (so it's 26 players) are automatically included for this round along with the 6 players from the "Nominated Progamer's Qualification Round". So, this round will include a total of 32 players. (6 players from Round 1 + KeSPA Ranks #4 ~ 26, minus fOru). They will be divided into 8 groups, single elmination. First place from each group advances to 3rd Round (8 players).

here.


In Round 1 a few players of the KeSPA Ranks #4 - 30 played (Kingdom, Mumyung, SIlen_Control, ...) Do they get to try again in Round 2 ? Or are they definitivly out ?
Anybody knows ?
DaZe
Profile Joined November 2003
Sweden2111 Posts
May 30 2006 18:19 GMT
#29
"Round 3: The three WCG Maps + Rush Hour 3.0"

Maybe Rush Hour will be the last WCG map ;o? I think its really bad of WCG not to release what will be the fourth map!
Live2Win *
Profile Blog Joined July 2004
United States6657 Posts
May 30 2006 18:57 GMT
#30
dunno what will replace Estrella. Might be RH, might not be. As for Beamo's question, I believe they get another chance? Also remember that it's the ranks of June, so many people around #29 or something will most likely participate in Round 1, since they won't know if they'll stay there next month.
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Aphelion
Profile Blog Joined December 2005
United States2720 Posts
Last Edited: 2006-05-30 21:19:25
May 30 2006 21:18 GMT
#31
It would be funny if WCG bowed to popular opinion and made the 4th map BGH
But Garimto was always more than just a Protoss...
polarwolf
Profile Blog Joined February 2006
924 Posts
May 30 2006 21:21 GMT
#32
I don't think it will be rush hour or any other known map. In the last years, WCG always had their own maps, so they will probably present a new one.
Asta
Profile Joined October 2002
Germany3491 Posts
May 30 2006 23:48 GMT
#33
On May 30 2006 19:33 HungZerg wrote:
no, because better player isnt an absolute thing. it all depends on style, race, etc, meaning a player maybe beat player 1 but not player 2, but player 2 could still beat player 1. theres no way to account for that, you just have to accept it.



read again!
i even put the term "any day" in to make it clear. maybe you should read the previous posts too.

ps: better player _is_ an absolute term. it just doesn't mean that you have to beat a worse player every time or even sometimes. read a book about measure theory if you don't get it.
sdpgposd
Profile Joined October 2005
United Kingdom1464 Posts
May 30 2006 23:53 GMT
#34
live2win = great tl member

nice icon
8882
Profile Blog Joined December 2003
2720 Posts
June 01 2006 22:45 GMT
#35
will the replays be released?

also playing on other maps sounds unfair

generally the whole "progamers play alone" thing is unfair
make them play vs amatours, let's see if they will do that well
I have returned
k3fka
Profile Joined November 2004
Argentina1267 Posts
June 01 2006 22:48 GMT
#36
On June 02 2006 07:45 8882 wrote:
will the replays be released?

also playing on other maps sounds unfair

generally the whole "progamers play alone" thing is unfair
make them play vs amatours, let's see if they will do that well

considering the progamers move money in korea , and there are probably at least lets say 3k participants for korea? the odds of the progamers loosing are way too high in the wcg prel.
Cedric
Profile Joined September 2004
Hungary186 Posts
June 01 2006 23:00 GMT
#37
have u seen the 2nd round groups?

http://sc.replays.hu/news.php?cod=1321
Hungary Fighting :P
Drowsy
Profile Blog Joined November 2005
United States4876 Posts
June 02 2006 02:03 GMT
#38
Korea needs to send no protoss players this year please.
Our Protoss, Who art in Aiur HongUn be Thy name; Thy stalker come, Thy will be blunk, on ladder as it is in Micro Tourny. Give us this win in our daily ladder, and forgive us our cheeses, As we forgive those who play zerg against us.
Beamo
Profile Joined March 2003
France1279 Posts
June 02 2006 02:04 GMT
#39
On May 31 2006 03:57 Live2Win wrote:
dunno what will replace Estrella. Might be RH, might not be. As for Beamo's question, I believe they get another chance? Also remember that it's the ranks of June, so many people around #29 or something will most likely participate in Round 1, since they won't know if they'll stay there next month.


Just saw the Kespa June top 30 and Kingdom, Mumyung and Silent_Control are out so I guess the coaches had already calculated their positions and knew they wern't going to be top 30 and that's why they were sent.
IdrA
Profile Blog Joined July 2004
United States11541 Posts
Last Edited: 2006-06-02 05:24:28
June 02 2006 05:22 GMT
#40
On May 31 2006 08:48 Asta wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 30 2006 19:33 HungZerg wrote:
no, because better player isnt an absolute thing. it all depends on style, race, etc, meaning a player maybe beat player 1 but not player 2, but player 2 could still beat player 1. theres no way to account for that, you just have to accept it.



read again!
i even put the term "any day" in to make it clear. maybe you should read the previous posts too.

ps: better player _is_ an absolute term. it just doesn't mean that you have to beat a worse player every time or even sometimes. read a book about measure theory if you don't get it.

not in relation to starcraft. too many variables affecting who wins, and not all of them skill related.
and that being said, your post doesnt make any sense as you said if someone qualified who would lose to a player who didnt qualify something went wrong.
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QuietIdiot
Profile Blog Joined October 2005
7004 Posts
June 02 2006 05:28 GMT
#41
On June 02 2006 08:00 Cedric wrote:
have u seen the 2nd round groups?

http://sc.replays.hu/news.php?cod=1321


wtfz I thought zerglee retired????
NeVeRDiEDrOnE
Profile Joined January 2005
Korea (South)227 Posts
Last Edited: 2006-06-02 05:34:00
June 02 2006 05:32 GMT
#42
SuperJongMan
Profile Blog Joined March 2003
Jamaica11586 Posts
June 02 2006 07:39 GMT
#43
OMG ~_~ Kingdom isn't even in top 30?
Wha.... why did it take someone else pointing this out to me for me to notice.
I am so sad.. I really wanted to see Kingdom WCG but I can't even dream of it now.
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