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Live2Win
United States6657 Posts
This is how WCG Korea is working this year.... (it's sort of complicated)
First of all, there are 3 rounds. 1st Round is the "Nominated Progamer's Qualification Round" 2nd Round is the "Qualification Round" 3rd Round is the "Final Qualification Round" There's also an "Amateur's Round", where only amateur players compete for the Final Qualificaton Round. (note: These names are my translated versions. Other's may call them something different.)
Let's start from the bottom.
Round 1, the "Nominated Progamer's Qualification Round" consists of 22 people. These people are those who were nominated from each Progaming Team, 2 players per team. Since there's 11 teams and only 2 players per team, that makes... 22 people!!! They are divided into 6 groups, with 2 groups having a bye. First place from each group advance to the 2nd Round. (This makes 6 people)
For the 2nd Round, the KeSPA ranked progamers from 4~30 minus last year's WCG winner (fOru), (so it's 26 players) are automatically included for this round along with the 6 players from the "Nominated Progamer's Qualification Round". So, this round will include a total of 32 players. (6 players from Round 1 + KeSPA Ranks #4 ~ 26, minus fOru). They will be divided into 8 groups, single elmination. First place from each group advances to 3rd Round (8 players).
Sometime before the 3rd Round, there will be an Amateur Qualification Round held for all non-progamers to play. 4 players will advance to the 3rd Round.
For the 3rd Round, 4 people are seeded. First is last year's WCG Winner (fOru). And the other 3 are the top 3 KeSPA ranked progamers of June. This round will consist of 16 players. The 4 seeded players, the 8 players from Round 2, and 4 Amateurs who qualified from the Amateur Qualification Round. Lastly the top 3 will go to WCG.
Dates: Round 1: May 30th Round 2: June 5th ~ July 11th (Every Monday and Tuesday) Time: 1PM Korea Time (12AM EST) Round 3: August 5th ~ August 6th
Maps: Round 1: 815 III, Rush Hour 3.0, Arcadia Round 2: 815 III, Rush Hour 3.0, Arcadia Round 3: The three WCG Maps + Rush Hour 3.0
The first round has been played, and the link can be found here.
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감사 ~_~ Right as I asked if ForU gets a seed in another thread, this pops up! Thank You. My Question is... what happens to Kespa 1-3? -_-;; They just don't want to play?
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kespa 1-3 get instant byes to the final round along with Foru
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"For the 3rd Round, 4 people are seeded. First is last year's WCG Winner (fOru). And the other 3 are the top 3 KeSPA ranked progamers of June"
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Thanks! This was really needed after all this confusion is the other thread.
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so I'm guessing Iloveoov + Julyzerg + Pusan are top 3 Kespa ranks right?
..my dream team = Foru + July + Iloveoov/Boxer for WCG TT
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gl ZERGS! i want 3 ZERGS !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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Boxer + Silent + GoodFriend = 4 mins awesome games against foreigners
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Live2Win
United States6657 Posts
On May 30 2006 13:14 QuietIdiot wrote: so I'm guessing Iloveoov + Julyzerg + Pusan are top 3 Kespa ranks right?
..my dream team = Foru + July + Iloveoov/Boxer for WCG TT
of May. We don't know who's where yet in June, and these three have been doing horrible. But probably Oov won't drop 3 spots.
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On May 30 2006 13:20 puLs.ReADy wrote: gl ZERGS! i want 3 ZERGS !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Hell Yeah!
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Belgium6771 Posts
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I hope Nal_rA gets it
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i hope IPX to win wcg korea wcg, then in italy i will show how he should play zvz ! yeaah
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this format seems a lot better than the previous ones. but why the hell do they let the amateurs bypass the first two rounds and put them directly to the final round? that is really weird. basicly they pretend that the top4 amateurs would be as good as the top8 pros (minus the four other seeds) which is obviously wrong. how many amateurs are playing in major leagues? maybe the wcg wants to follow the olympic way where there have always been rules to reduce the number of professionals competing.
i just hope they will use the tv-league-maps for the national prelims so the progamers will eliminate the amateurs.
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i'm sure getting the spots for the 4 amateurs is going to be really really hard, so the nominated progamers and kespa 4-30 will have an easier time getting there. the amateur round probably includes semi-pros as well
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Didn't they use this last year? I remember that they separated Amateurs and pro's then also.
It seems odd that the nominated have to qualify in two rounds, but I guess the first group stage is a wild card thingy for those who aren't seeded good enough, so perhaps it makes sense.
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On May 30 2006 14:29 Polemarch wrote: i'm sure getting the spots for the 4 amateurs is going to be really really hard, so the nominated progamers and kespa 4-30 will have an easier time getting there. the amateur round probably includes semi-pros as well
that depends on how you define 'hard'. judging only by opponent-skill the amateur-tourneys will never be as hard as the pro-tourneys. anyway, what difference does it make how hard someones way to the finals was? if he is in and another player that could have beat him any day is out something went wrong.
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Live2Win
United States6657 Posts
updated with maps and other minor stuff
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I swear to god please let it be boxer this year.
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Did they follow the WCG rules where the winner of regional from last year are auto-in for the grand final of regional?
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Corinthos
Canada1842 Posts
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On May 30 2006 14:47 Asta wrote:Show nested quote +On May 30 2006 14:29 Polemarch wrote: i'm sure getting the spots for the 4 amateurs is going to be really really hard, so the nominated progamers and kespa 4-30 will have an easier time getting there. the amateur round probably includes semi-pros as well that depends on how you define 'hard'. judging only by opponent-skill the amateur-tourneys will never be as hard as the pro-tourneys. anyway, what difference does it make how hard someones way to the finals was? if he is in and another player that could have beat him any day is out something went wrong. no, because better player isnt an absolute thing. it all depends on style, race, etc, meaning a player maybe beat player 1 but not player 2, but player 2 could still beat player 1. theres no way to account for that, you just have to accept it.
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why pro gamers dont play the wcg maps in first and second round?
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I hope they release replays this year of the progamers.
VODs like last year aren't as cool
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ToT)MidiaN(
England2183 Posts
Maybe they know something about the map that is replacing estrella?!
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On May 31 2006 02:15 ToT)MidiaN( wrote: Maybe they know something about the map that is replacing estrella?!
i hope rush hour will be the 4th map ^^
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On May 30 2006 13:03 Live2Win wrote:This is how WCG Korea is working this year.... (it's sort of complicated) For the 2nd Round, the KeSPA ranked progamers from 4~30 minus last year's WCG winner (fOru), (so it's 26 players) are automatically included for this round along with the 6 players from the "Nominated Progamer's Qualification Round". So, this round will include a total of 32 players. (6 players from Round 1 + KeSPA Ranks #4 ~ 26, minus fOru). They will be divided into 8 groups, single elmination. First place from each group advances to 3rd Round (8 players). here.
In Round 1 a few players of the KeSPA Ranks #4 - 30 played (Kingdom, Mumyung, SIlen_Control, ...) Do they get to try again in Round 2 ? Or are they definitivly out ? Anybody knows ?
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"Round 3: The three WCG Maps + Rush Hour 3.0"
Maybe Rush Hour will be the last WCG map ;o? I think its really bad of WCG not to release what will be the fourth map!
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Live2Win
United States6657 Posts
dunno what will replace Estrella. Might be RH, might not be. As for Beamo's question, I believe they get another chance? Also remember that it's the ranks of June, so many people around #29 or something will most likely participate in Round 1, since they won't know if they'll stay there next month.
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It would be funny if WCG bowed to popular opinion and made the 4th map BGH
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I don't think it will be rush hour or any other known map. In the last years, WCG always had their own maps, so they will probably present a new one.
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On May 30 2006 19:33 HungZerg wrote: no, because better player isnt an absolute thing. it all depends on style, race, etc, meaning a player maybe beat player 1 but not player 2, but player 2 could still beat player 1. theres no way to account for that, you just have to accept it.
read again! i even put the term "any day" in to make it clear. maybe you should read the previous posts too.
ps: better player _is_ an absolute term. it just doesn't mean that you have to beat a worse player every time or even sometimes. read a book about measure theory if you don't get it.
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live2win = great tl member
nice icon
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will the replays be released?
also playing on other maps sounds unfair
generally the whole "progamers play alone" thing is unfair make them play vs amatours, let's see if they will do that well
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On June 02 2006 07:45 8882 wrote: will the replays be released?
also playing on other maps sounds unfair
generally the whole "progamers play alone" thing is unfair make them play vs amatours, let's see if they will do that well considering the progamers move money in korea , and there are probably at least lets say 3k participants for korea? the odds of the progamers loosing are way too high in the wcg prel.
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Korea needs to send no protoss players this year please.
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On May 31 2006 03:57 Live2Win wrote: dunno what will replace Estrella. Might be RH, might not be. As for Beamo's question, I believe they get another chance? Also remember that it's the ranks of June, so many people around #29 or something will most likely participate in Round 1, since they won't know if they'll stay there next month.
Just saw the Kespa June top 30 and Kingdom, Mumyung and Silent_Control are out so I guess the coaches had already calculated their positions and knew they wern't going to be top 30 and that's why they were sent.
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On May 31 2006 08:48 Asta wrote:Show nested quote +On May 30 2006 19:33 HungZerg wrote: no, because better player isnt an absolute thing. it all depends on style, race, etc, meaning a player maybe beat player 1 but not player 2, but player 2 could still beat player 1. theres no way to account for that, you just have to accept it. read again! i even put the term "any day" in to make it clear. maybe you should read the previous posts too. ps: better player _is_ an absolute term. it just doesn't mean that you have to beat a worse player every time or even sometimes. read a book about measure theory if you don't get it. not in relation to starcraft. too many variables affecting who wins, and not all of them skill related. and that being said, your post doesnt make any sense as you said if someone qualified who would lose to a player who didnt qualify something went wrong.
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wtfz I thought zerglee retired????
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OMG ~_~ Kingdom isn't even in top 30? Wha.... why did it take someone else pointing this out to me for me to notice. I am so sad.. I really wanted to see Kingdom WCG but I can't even dream of it now.
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