EPTAs for the Jang, congrats!
[OSL] Tving OSL Grand Final - Page 364
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ravemir
Portugal595 Posts
As for the Jang, congrats! | ||
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Kal_rA
United States2925 Posts
 Its been an amazing ride! Reading writeups, strats, HYPE, Live Report, watching streams. Lots of memories over the last four and a half years! I love you tl. I love you bw. | ||
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oGoZenob
France1503 Posts
On August 04 2012 22:54 Omri wrote: ![[image loading]](http://i.imgur.com/ja4Ov.png) Thats how it ends...  This game was a big part of my life so I want to say goodbye to Starcraft Brood War and OGN StarLeague, and Thank you. this is the saddest picture i've ever seen | ||
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Probe1
United States17920 Posts
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Release
United States4397 Posts
+ Show Spoiler + Jangbi: 12nex - Fantasy: what can you do? Jangbi: Standard - Fantasy: Ok - Jangbi: I need to cheese next game Fantasy: 14CC, doesn't account for zealot, shit... Jangbi: 10/15 w/o expand - Fantasy: No ebay, no academy, no vultures w/mines. This final, for Jangbi, was like a pizza. I'll have it with cheese. I'll do without some cheese Needs cheese Definitely needs cheese | ||
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o[twist]
United States4903 Posts
On August 05 2012 08:34 Release wrote: This final was actually quite bad tbh: + Show Spoiler + Jangbi: 12nex - Fantasy: what can you do? Jangbi: Standard - Fantasy: Ok - Jangbi: I need to cheese next game Fantasy: 14CC, doesn't account for zealot, shit... Jangbi: 10/15 w/o expand - Fantasy: No ebay, no academy, no vultures w/mines. uhh, this is insanely inaccurate. i don't know anything about starcraft and it still seems to me that you hardly watched the games. + Show Spoiler + the first game was notable for featuring carriers which you almost never see anymore. jangbi also did some good drop defense. the second game jangbi did actually cheese. his dark templars failed to do any damage because fantasy had a ton of detection. did you not notice them? that was why he was behind the whole game. the third game involved a bulldog from a midmap robo bay. the fourth game once again involved dark templar and this time fantasy had no detection. | ||
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RHoudini
Belgium3627 Posts
The most creative player won, for sure. I really hope both finalists will shine in SC2 as well. | ||
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Release
United States4397 Posts
On August 05 2012 08:37 o[twist] wrote: uhh, this is insanely inaccurate. i don't know anything about starcraft and it still seems to me that you hardly watched the games. + Show Spoiler + the first game was notable for featuring carriers which you almost never see anymore. jangbi also did some good drop defense. the second game jangbi did actually cheese. his dark templars failed to do any damage because fantasy had a ton of detection. did you not notice them? that was why he was behind the whole game. the third game involved a bulldog from a midmap robo bay. the fourth game once again involved dark templar and this time fantasy had no detection. + Show Spoiler + 12 nex completely unpunished? That's the reason he was able to defend the harass; he had goons to spare, resources to get slightly earlier tech. He won the game when he defended the harass, and went carriers for the hell of it. He would have won either way. Game 1 went pretty much exactly how Game 5 of the Batoo OSL finals went. One thing led to another and everything fails by a few seconds/units. Second game was standard enough. people open reavers and lose those all the time. Jangbi was behind, i'll give you that. Third game: did you not catch fantasy doing a 14CC near the nat, then having to float it all the way to his min only? Then he lost a ton of SCVs while trying to repair a supply depot because his bunker was on the inside due to 1 zealot that made it's way to the nat. Fantasy scouted Jangbi, mind you. he got the SCV in, saw 2 gates and no expansion at the nat. What was he thinking? A hidden base somewhere? | ||
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Anomarad
Canada565 Posts
On August 05 2012 08:14 o[twist] wrote: it's hard to believe when you can get a 363-page thread of people who have woken up or stayed up to watch a game played across the world, when you can fill a stadium with people chanting the players' names, etc. you still don't have enough to keep the game going I wonder if some major organization in Korea tried to start a league if Blizzard would even allow it. Probably would shut them down or incorporate fees to make them give up. Anyway! The games were decent enough but the fans and legendary players made this finals a great one. | ||
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Alethios
New Zealand2765 Posts
RIP BW. It's been one hell of ride. | ||
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sapht
Sweden141 Posts
I had really hoped for Fantasy to win and didn't feel Jangbi deserved this win as much as he deserved to win the last OSL. Still, evened up over the showmatch, seeing Grr... and Elky looking a decade displaced, Tasteless and Artosis snickering, Boxer and Yellow dancing, Jaedong smiling, a raving Kim Carrier, it was a worthy end. And this day has seen me crying 10 times over. | ||
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gh0stsquall
United States245 Posts
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strongwind
United States862 Posts
Thanks to everyone on TL for all their hard work over the years. You've truly made brood war an exciting and accessible esport for the rest of us. The past 12 years have been something that I, for one, will NEVER FORGET!!!!! :D | ||
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o[twist]
United States4903 Posts
On August 05 2012 08:43 Release wrote: + Show Spoiler + 12 nex completely unpunished? That's the reason he was able to defend the harass; he had goons to spare, resources to get slightly earlier tech. He won the game when he defended the harass, and went carriers for the hell of it. He would have won either way. Game 1 went pretty much exactly how Game 5 of the Batoo OSL finals went. One thing led to another and everything fails by a few seconds/units. Second game was standard enough. people open reavers and lose those all the time. Jangbi was behind, i'll give you that. Third game: did you not catch fantasy doing a 14CC near the nat, then having to float it all the way to his min only? Then he lost a ton of SCVs while trying to repair a supply depot because his bunker was on the inside due to 1 zealot that made it's way to the nat. Fantasy scouted Jangbi, mind you. he got the SCV in, saw 2 gates and no expansion at the nat. What was he thinking? A hidden base somewhere? all that you're saying is that there were reasons for the things that happened to happen. there will always be reasons. the final isn't good or bad based on those reasons but based on how skillfully the players deal with the situations that do emerge and how entertaining the games are in some difficult-to-define sense. + Show Spoiler + for me the second game even though jangbi was behind and sure to lose almost the entire time was really, really exciting because the arbiter play kept me on the edge of my seat. | ||
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Niflheim
United States313 Posts
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De4ngus
United States6533 Posts
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MapleLeafSirup
Germany950 Posts
I am sad that this era of my life ended with today's matches. But this was a worthy end. This whole starleague was worth being an OSL that will be remembered among those other famous OSLs where heroes were born and heroes have fallen. Ironically, the last champion - the last dominating player - was a protoss. After all these years with dominant terrans, after all these years with a plenitude of zergs, after all these years where the protoss race was struggling and hardly being represented - it is a protoss who ends this story. But this is what the BW history is known for, right? It created a history that contained a lot of suprises... nobody would have thought that Jangbi (or that any protoss) could mark the end with two consecutive OSL wins. But he did it and that is what we will remember until the very end of our lifes. Goodbye BroodWar | ||
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Torpedo.Vegas
United States1890 Posts
On August 05 2012 08:43 Anomarad wrote: I wonder if some major organization in Korea tried to start a league if Blizzard would even allow it. Probably would shut them down or incorporate fees to make them give up. Anyway! The games were decent enough but the fans and legendary players made this finals a great one. I don't think Blizz would care if you started a league. They don't charge SC2 leagues until payout is about 5k USD I believe. If whatever tourney playing whatever blizz game takes off, they will likely be contacted to pay Blizz a percentage for the game they made being a critical factor in tournaments success. Also, it could be a factor that this was advertised as the last OSL that the crowd was exceptionally awesome. | ||
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Deleted User 135096
3624 Posts
I'm going to wear JangBI's team icon for the rest of August. Mad respect to those ballin nerds. | ||
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oBlade
United States5765 Posts
On August 05 2012 08:43 Release wrote: 12 nex completely unpunished? That's the reason he was able to defend the harass; he had goons to spare, resources to get slightly earlier tech. He won the game when he defended the harass, and went carriers for the hell of it. He would have won either way. Game 1 went pretty much exactly how Game 5 of the Batoo OSL finals went. One thing led to another and everything fails by a few seconds/units. Fantasy was rax-CC that game. He didn't have to push Jangbi's third at the expense of his natural, which he was trying to defend with goliaths against goons. Third game: did you not catch fantasy doing a 14CC near the nat, then having to float it all the way to his min only? Then he lost a ton of SCVs while trying to repair a supply depot because his bunker was on the inside due to 1 zealot that made it's way to the nat. He didn't "have to float it all the way." I'm sure he felt perfectly comfortable 14ccing without taking a build order loss and using his min only instead. That's the beauty of command centers. You can float them wherever the fuck you want. The zealot, particularly with Jangbi, is a tell for reaver openings. He didn't want or need to overextend himself to his natural off a 14cc when he could just use the min only behind a wall. For all we know he wanted to turn that game into a 2-1 push. Fantasy scouted Jangbi, mind you. he got the SCV in, saw 2 gates and no expansion at the nat. What was he thinking? A hidden base somewhere? He saw two gates and a spinning cyber core (which was actually researching range, not fake range) then his SCV died. That tells him as much as 2-gate goons. By the time he scouted the nat with a vulture, he saw a probe in the position to build a nexus. His first mines on high ground ridges were the result of a correct analysis that mines need to forward if you want to contest map control vs goons. But because of this, his natural was completely bare and he was switching to tank production. In principle, FD has no problem defending DTs, but you have to execute it. Add the goon range and pressure on his bunker, he probably thought he was about to be attacked by a goon/reaver bust. | ||
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