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blade55555
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
United States17423 Posts
July 02 2012 08:43 GMT
#201
On July 02 2012 17:42 Nikon wrote:
The fuck... how did Jaedong lose that game? This doesn't make sense.


Had no infestor energy to stop the blink stalkers (he used them to kill 4'th nexus). Lost his whole army to kill a nexus and the protoss lost close to nothing.

It looked nice, but in reality it wasn't a smart decision. He didn't have the bank to get a ton of bl's and roach/ling support. His infestors had no energy so he couldn't stop the blink on high ground.
When I think of something else, something will go here
lichter
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
1001 YEARS KESPAJAIL22272 Posts
July 02 2012 08:43 GMT
#202
On July 02 2012 17:42 Nikon wrote:
The fuck... how did Jaedong lose that game? This doesn't make sense.


He had no army support for BroodLords and no energy on his infestors. There was no way he was winning an engagement.
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Norada
Profile Joined August 2010
China482 Posts
July 02 2012 08:43 GMT
#203
only in sc2 can you take out 2 bases but the toss can walk to your base in less than 20s to get you before your respawn >:
raga4ka
Profile Joined February 2008
Bulgaria5679 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-07-02 08:44:19
July 02 2012 08:43 GMT
#204
Jaedong WTF man . Should have sacrificed the natural and main and Broodlords and just kill the collosus/ immortal and make a shit ton of spines at the third and fourth base .

It doesn't matter , because now we will see Effort and an ACE match , hopefully a good one where CJ wins .
dmnum
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
Brazil6910 Posts
July 02 2012 08:43 GMT
#205
On July 02 2012 17:42 Nikon wrote:
The fuck... how did Jaedong lose that game? This doesn't make sense.

traded his whole army and all infestor energy for 2 bases, without having a spine wall to stall the counter until he had broods and units to cover them
Existential
Profile Joined December 2010
Australia2107 Posts
July 02 2012 08:43 GMT
#206
Shame how the better player in the game by a fair margin didn't come out with the win ... -____-
Jaedong <3 | BW - The first game I ever loved
Ribbon
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States5278 Posts
July 02 2012 08:43 GMT
#207
On July 02 2012 17:42 Nikon wrote:
The fuck... how did Jaedong lose that game? This doesn't make sense.


He traded his whole army + all his infestor energy for two expos, so Hero[join] all-inned in desperation and Jaedong didn't have enough to defend. Had he stalled Hero[join]'s army for about 10 more seconds, he'd have won.
AIOL!
Profile Joined January 2011
France962 Posts
July 02 2012 08:43 GMT
#208
Jaedong played bad, many strategical mistakes. He doesn't know the game yet TT. He could have won this hundred of times, ZvP is so imbalanced on this map.... Just too many mistakes. But he has a godlike macro i trust in him.
Stephano!!!!!!/Nerchio/Mana/Hasuobs/Grubby/Kas/Tarson/Sarens/Goody/BeastyCury
nweb
Profile Joined June 2011
198 Posts
July 02 2012 08:44 GMT
#209
On July 02 2012 17:41 Vundox wrote:
sigh JD deserved to win this -_-


Tech behind what it should be, when he was behind he exhanged his army supply for two nexuses, didn't have enough army / built spines to defend.
I see why those new to SC2 would think that though
Ribbon
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States5278 Posts
July 02 2012 08:44 GMT
#210
On July 02 2012 17:43 Norada wrote:
only in sc2 can you take out 2 bases but the toss can walk to your base in less than 20s to get you before your respawn >:


That's why top SC2 Zergs have a spine crawler wall. Even a small one would've won Jaedong the game.
blade55555
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
United States17423 Posts
July 02 2012 08:45 GMT
#211
On July 02 2012 17:43 AIOL! wrote:
Jaedong played bad, many strategical mistakes. He doesn't know the game yet TT. He could have won this hundred of times, ZvP is so imbalanced on this map.... Just too many mistakes. But he has a godlike macro i trust in him.


It doesn't favor zerg that much only like 2%. It all goes on if the toss defends the 200/200 roach push as it's hard to secure a fourth on antiga most of the time as Z.
When I think of something else, something will go here
Fragile51
Profile Joined October 2011
Netherlands15767 Posts
July 02 2012 08:45 GMT
#212
On July 02 2012 17:43 Nikon wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 02 2012 17:42 Kvz wrote:
lol protoss. sometimes sc2 makes me mad


It's the size of the map, not the races.


Has nothing to do with the size of the map lol, JD just played that terribly.
Nikon
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
Bulgaria5710 Posts
July 02 2012 08:46 GMT
#213
On July 02 2012 17:43 Ribbon wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 02 2012 17:42 Nikon wrote:
The fuck... how did Jaedong lose that game? This doesn't make sense.


He traded his whole army + all his infestor energy for two expos, so Hero[join] all-inned in desperation and Jaedong didn't have enough to defend. Had he stalled Hero[join]'s army for about 10 more seconds, he'd have won.


So it is the small map after all -.-;; At least they're not playing Steppes of War in tournaments any more lol.
lichter
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
1001 YEARS KESPAJAIL22272 Posts
July 02 2012 08:46 GMT
#214
On July 02 2012 17:43 AIOL! wrote:
Jaedong played bad, many strategical mistakes. He doesn't know the game yet TT. He could have won this hundred of times, ZvP is so imbalanced on this map.... Just too many mistakes. But he has a godlike macro i trust in him.


To be honest his SC2 macro isn't that great yet.

He should have gone a huge round of drones when his fourth came up after his attack instead of going for more lings that didn't really do that much.
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raga4ka
Profile Joined February 2008
Bulgaria5679 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-07-02 08:47:39
July 02 2012 08:46 GMT
#215
On July 02 2012 17:44 Ribbon wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 02 2012 17:43 Norada wrote:
only in sc2 can you take out 2 bases but the toss can walk to your base in less than 20s to get you before your respawn >:


That's why top SC2 Zergs have a spine crawler wall. Even a small one would've won Jaedong the game.


Yeah looks like late spines is the bane for Jaedong in SC2 also . He was notorious in BW for geting late sunkens also and relying to much on his micro , though it was the best micro in the world .
bgx
Profile Joined August 2010
Poland6595 Posts
July 02 2012 08:47 GMT
#216
On July 02 2012 17:46 Nikon wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 02 2012 17:43 Ribbon wrote:
On July 02 2012 17:42 Nikon wrote:
The fuck... how did Jaedong lose that game? This doesn't make sense.


He traded his whole army + all his infestor energy for two expos, so Hero[join] all-inned in desperation and Jaedong didn't have enough to defend. Had he stalled Hero[join]'s army for about 10 more seconds, he'd have won.


So it is the small map after all -.-;; At least they're not playing Steppes of War in tournaments any more lol.

No its not, thats stupid argument, you choose your strategy based on map.
Stork[gm]
Fragile51
Profile Joined October 2011
Netherlands15767 Posts
July 02 2012 08:47 GMT
#217
On July 02 2012 17:46 Nikon wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 02 2012 17:43 Ribbon wrote:
On July 02 2012 17:42 Nikon wrote:
The fuck... how did Jaedong lose that game? This doesn't make sense.


He traded his whole army + all his infestor energy for two expos, so Hero[join] all-inned in desperation and Jaedong didn't have enough to defend. Had he stalled Hero[join]'s army for about 10 more seconds, he'd have won.


So it is the small map after all -.-;; At least they're not playing Steppes of War in tournaments any more lol.


Antiga is not small, stop making excuses >_>
0neder
Profile Joined July 2009
United States3733 Posts
July 02 2012 08:47 GMT
#218
Jaedong's used to maps that actually reward aggression, rather than Sc2 tiny maps where it can actually be bad to snipe expos since protoss can walk across the map in 10 seconds and kill your base before replenish.
0neder
Profile Joined July 2009
United States3733 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-07-02 08:48:07
July 02 2012 08:47 GMT
#219
On July 02 2012 17:47 Fragile51 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 02 2012 17:46 Nikon wrote:
On July 02 2012 17:43 Ribbon wrote:
On July 02 2012 17:42 Nikon wrote:
The fuck... how did Jaedong lose that game? This doesn't make sense.


He traded his whole army + all his infestor energy for two expos, so Hero[join] all-inned in desperation and Jaedong didn't have enough to defend. Had he stalled Hero[join]'s army for about 10 more seconds, he'd have won.


So it is the small map after all -.-;; At least they're not playing Steppes of War in tournaments any more lol.


Antiga is not small, stop making excuses >_>

Just because it's not steppes of war, doesn't make it not small. These guys should be playing on tal'darim size stuff.
Fragile51
Profile Joined October 2011
Netherlands15767 Posts
July 02 2012 08:50 GMT
#220
On July 02 2012 17:47 0neder wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 02 2012 17:47 Fragile51 wrote:
On July 02 2012 17:46 Nikon wrote:
On July 02 2012 17:43 Ribbon wrote:
On July 02 2012 17:42 Nikon wrote:
The fuck... how did Jaedong lose that game? This doesn't make sense.


He traded his whole army + all his infestor energy for two expos, so Hero[join] all-inned in desperation and Jaedong didn't have enough to defend. Had he stalled Hero[join]'s army for about 10 more seconds, he'd have won.


So it is the small map after all -.-;; At least they're not playing Steppes of War in tournaments any more lol.


Antiga is not small, stop making excuses >_>

Just because it's not steppes of war, doesn't make it not small. These guys should be playing on tal'darim size stuff.


...No they shouldn't.
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