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BLinD-RawR
ALLEYCAT BLUES50121 Posts
![[image loading]](http://i.imgur.com/iyE4j.png) 2011-2012 SK Planet ProLeague Season 2 Round 1 Week 1 Monday July 2nd 06:00 GMT (+00:00) ![[image loading]](http://i.imgur.com/3Bx8M.jpg) ![[image loading]](http://baseportal.de/files/MyTube/CJ_Entus.jpg) Team 8 vs CJ Entus <Neo Jade > <Neo Electric Circuit > <Neo Ground Zero> <Entombed Valley > <Antiga Shipyard > <Ohana> <Cloud Kingdom> ![[image loading]](http://i.imgur.com/eagMn.png) + Show Spoiler [Overall] + ![[image loading]](http://i.imgur.com/GfOP5.png) + Show Spoiler [Overall] + + Show Spoiler [Final Score] + Team 8 2:0 CJ Entus ![[image loading]](http://i.imgur.com/rJw0R.png) + Show Spoiler + ![[image loading]](http://i.imgur.com/36lQQ.png) Restream for outside US issues and the like: http://www.twitch.tv/bgvrt | ||
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N.geNuity
United States5112 Posts
tyson being a cheesey fag first game, but playing fine with it. | ||
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X10A
Canada9837 Posts
Tyson went for a 10/15? DT drops though Kept Leta in the main for quite awhile Loses the DT's though | ||
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Megaliskuu
United States5123 Posts
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X10A
Canada9837 Posts
Leta at 7 oclock Tyson at 1 oclock | ||
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N.geNuity
United States5112 Posts
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Doughboy
United States721 Posts
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X10A
Canada9837 Posts
0-1 for the mech upgrades Tyson going to go for the push Covert Ops! | ||
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BLinD-RawR
ALLEYCAT BLUES50121 Posts
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N.geNuity
United States5112 Posts
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X10A
Canada9837 Posts
Shuttle moving out for Tyson, drops some mine drags Double shuttle bombs! Tyson moving in with the rest of his army Stasis on a ghost, and a tank Almost no tanks left Ghost gets a lockdown on an arbiter | ||
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Ribbon
United States5278 Posts
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BLinD-RawR
ALLEYCAT BLUES50121 Posts
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X10A
Canada9837 Posts
Lockdown on a shuttle, and in range of a turret, Leta <3 Ghost does fall though | ||
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X10A
Canada9837 Posts
Leta's tank count cannot be that high just yet Ghost vs Arbiter oh damn | ||
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BLinD-RawR
ALLEYCAT BLUES50121 Posts
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Nikon
Bulgaria5710 Posts
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X10A
Canada9837 Posts
Leta keeping up in this game for now Tyson floating 2k minerals now, and is near maxed | ||
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X10A
Canada9837 Posts
LOL Feedback on ghosts? Or Mind Control Hiya vs Free all over again | ||
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BLinD-RawR
ALLEYCAT BLUES50121 Posts
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setzer
United States3284 Posts
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X10A
Canada9837 Posts
Kill off all of the cannons, but the nexus won't take that much damage 11 oclock natural being taken also by Tyson | ||
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X10A
Canada9837 Posts
2-2 for Mech 0-0-1 for Toss army Pretty huge vulture stasis Lockdown on the leaing arbiter though Zealots running towards the tanks Goons can't get through though Storm on the tanks though Leta's tank line is so deep though 157-126 | ||
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N.geNuity
United States5112 Posts
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X10A
Canada9837 Posts
Arbiter gets lock downed and killed 2-3 for mech now 1-0-2 for toss 7th base coming up now for Tyson at the 5 main | ||
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Zallkar
United States449 Posts
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N.geNuity
United States5112 Posts
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X10A
Canada9837 Posts
Wtf bro win the game first Lock down on the arbiter yet again DT's in the mix now too lol | ||
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Caihead
Canada8550 Posts
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N.geNuity
United States5112 Posts
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X10A
Canada9837 Posts
Mines tearing through the zealots Pretty huge storms on the tanks Equal supply ~100 Both players reset to about 100 supply after that engagement Tyson with the much better economy though, he should remax easily | ||
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NicksonReyes
Philippines4431 Posts
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X10A
Canada9837 Posts
1200 minerals thrown away right there Leta trying to take a 4th base at the 5 oclock | ||
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X10A
Canada9837 Posts
All three manner nexus' getting finished 11 oclock main is taken by Tyson also | ||
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P7GAB
Canada486 Posts
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Nikon
Bulgaria5710 Posts
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X10A
Canada9837 Posts
11 oclock third is Leta's mining right now Leta going to push into the 5 oclock 3 kill dark archon, falls though Leta taking the supply lead Oh Tyson | ||
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Talionis
Scotland4085 Posts
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oogieogie
United States3657 Posts
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N.geNuity
United States5112 Posts
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NicksonReyes
Philippines4431 Posts
and the nexuses. | ||
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X10A
Canada9837 Posts
wtf bro Tyson still doesn't know about Leta's third at 11 third | ||
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P7GAB
Canada486 Posts
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Ribbon
United States5278 Posts
On July 02 2012 15:29 NicksonReyes wrote: Tyson is letting leta mine that 4th freely, might cost him the game, and the nexuses. He doesn't know about it. He thinks Leta's broke | ||
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juked
United States691 Posts
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N.geNuity
United States5112 Posts
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X10A
Canada9837 Posts
5 oclock main getting shelled Huge storms on vultures and storms Tyson trying to break the tank line Suplpy still equal at ~130 | ||
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setzer
United States3284 Posts
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fire_brand
Canada1123 Posts
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X10A
Canada9837 Posts
5 oclock nat falls, 5 main is going to also Tyson please scout the 11 third FFS | ||
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Caihead
Canada8550 Posts
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X10A
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5 oclock natural is up and mining now About half of the minerals are mined out of the 11 third Huge mines on the speed lots Tyson wishes he had 1200 minerals in zealots | ||
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X10A
Canada9837 Posts
Tyson getting up close and person on the tanks though CC is going to fall 5 oclock being taken by Leta now | ||
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N.geNuity
United States5112 Posts
I love this so much | ||
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X10A
Canada9837 Posts
Tyson's bank is really sad right now, not even maxed either Both players only ~150 supply | ||
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NicksonReyes
Philippines4431 Posts
so that the T8 coach won't fire him. | ||
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Nikon
Bulgaria5710 Posts
On July 02 2012 15:32 N.geNuity wrote: rofl missplaces cc. I love this so much Well at least he can lift it to the correct position aferwards. | ||
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X10A
Canada9837 Posts
Tyson wants to try and push into the nat, but doesn't want too Big recall into the 5 oclock main Pretty zealot heavy, only two goons Pretty big storm on the goliath Storm on the ghost too lol Nothing much lost, CC lifted and delayed mining though | ||
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NicksonReyes
Philippines4431 Posts
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Caihead
Canada8550 Posts
On July 02 2012 15:33 NicksonReyes wrote: I hope Tyson wins so that the T8 coach won't fire him. You can't fire personality like that, its like how you can't fire Hiya OH WAIT SHIT | ||
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N.geNuity
United States5112 Posts
omg leta I love you. always go ghosts (leta vs who was it on hbr? pure? oh also that tie game with leta pure on circuit breaker, but that wasnt ghosts) | ||
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X10A
Canada9837 Posts
Leta's vultures get raped by the mines though 11 main has no cannons, only zealots to defend | ||
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X10A
Canada9837 Posts
If only he stasised the vessel >< | ||
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Vlanitak
Norway3045 Posts
Regards audiance white guy | ||
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X10A
Canada9837 Posts
163-186 | ||
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N.geNuity
United States5112 Posts
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X10A
Canada9837 Posts
5 nat getting forced lift 124-131 supply Tyson favored for the time being lol what 11 nat is getting shelled, as is 11 third | ||
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X10A
Canada9837 Posts
Tyson shutting down 5 oclock main 11 oclock force getting killed off, tons of probes gettin gkilled though Leta under 100 supply 5 oclock has no mining 12 kill vulture, those probes | ||
Kiett
United States7639 Posts
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X10A
Canada9837 Posts
This game, I don't even 5 oclock third looking to get taken byTyson 5 nat is mining? Not to osure Archons being morphed in PvT. Low in minerals | ||
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Nikon
Bulgaria5710 Posts
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okum
France5778 Posts
Dumbass center Nexus strategies shouldn't win. | ||
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DMXD
United States4064 Posts
pvt =D | ||
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BLinD-RawR
ALLEYCAT BLUES50121 Posts
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ii.blitzkrieg
Canada1122 Posts
too bad leta came up short | ||
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X10A
Canada9837 Posts
Leta under 50 supply Was there a mind control and manner CC? | ||
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N.geNuity
United States5112 Posts
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Fenrax
United States5018 Posts
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Windwaker
Germany1597 Posts
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DMXD
United States4064 Posts
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SilverWolfe
Canada173 Posts
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Kergy
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Kamille
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slappy
United States1271 Posts
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DMXD
United States4064 Posts
thank you leta =D | ||
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sGs.Stregon
United States161 Posts
ScToo could only wish their games could be that awsome. User was banned for this post. | ||
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YoucriedWolf
Sweden1456 Posts
Wanted leta to win  | ||
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Kal_rA
United States2925 Posts
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Vlanitak
Norway3045 Posts
 only sad about one thing so far today... The crowd here today is pretty lifeless If 이제동 plays Ill give TL a shoutout | ||
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Kergy
Peru2011 Posts
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Windwaker
Germany1597 Posts
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Nikon
Bulgaria5710 Posts
On July 02 2012 15:53 Vlanitak wrote: Man that was a fun game. The manner nexi was way to early but tysonanaged to pull through after waisting 1200minerals. Also that ghost play was fun only sad about one thing so far today... The crowd here today is pretty lifeless If 이제동 plays Ill give TL a shoutout That's the beauty of it. He didn't manner nexus when the game was over. He manner nex'd like a man. Sea up next, hooray! P.S. Jaedong will play and you know it | ||
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DMXD
United States4064 Posts
Rooting for snow for one more bw game. | ||
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Vlanitak
Norway3045 Posts
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Nikon
Bulgaria5710 Posts
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DMXD
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Kal_rA
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Kal_rA
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Nikon
Bulgaria5710 Posts
Well, looks like this is it for Sea. It's going to be pretty hard to recover from that spot. | ||
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BLinD-RawR
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blade55555
United States17423 Posts
On July 02 2012 15:45 sGs.Stregon wrote: THAT, Was entertaining as fck.. ScToo could only wish their games could be that awsome. lol. Was a good game though bring me some zergs! | ||
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DMXD
United States4064 Posts
wth Cj mascot? | ||
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sGs.Stregon
United States161 Posts
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Caihead
Canada8550 Posts
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Nikon
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Vlanitak
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Nikon
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GTR
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Go. ?? | ||
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okum
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zaii
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ptmc
Finland306 Posts
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Vlanitak
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Nikon
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BLinD-RawR
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raga4ka
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Existential
Australia2107 Posts
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Kergy
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Ryo
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Nikon
Bulgaria5710 Posts
On July 02 2012 16:41 Existential wrote: Don't know which is more surprising, T8 winning the BW part or Jaehoon beating Horang2 in PvP... Well, Jaehoon has beaten Horang2 in PvP before | ||
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Espelz
Germany819 Posts
+ Show Spoiler + Man, I always get so scared when T8 depends on Jaehoon to play decent oO. But hey, at least sometimes he delivers... and if not, he at least deliveres some kind of cynical entertainment | ||
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Caihead
Canada8550 Posts
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Norada
China482 Posts
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GTR
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Vlanitak
Norway3045 Posts
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Caihead
Canada8550 Posts
On July 02 2012 16:54 Vlanitak wrote: The team 8 fangirls outnumber the Cj entus fangirls, and these two groups are the only thing keeping this audiance alive lol. Good games but thr audiance is pretty dead fan girls saving esports | ||
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BobTheBuilder1377
Somalia335 Posts
On July 02 2012 16:55 aznkukuboi wrote: yay1 sc2 gross | ||
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Vlanitak
Norway3045 Posts
I dont mind as its usually me and the fangirls who stick around waiting for the players after matches lol yummy sc2 matches. Still no JD... Humhum | ||
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blade55555
United States17423 Posts
you're gross! I want jaedong to play that is all I want to watch. Well effort to :D | ||
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Ribbon
United States5278 Posts
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Dodgin
Canada39254 Posts
WTF? | ||
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zaii
Guam2611 Posts
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blade55555
United States17423 Posts
On July 02 2012 17:03 Dodgin wrote: he moved the overseer away WTF? DT went into the main and I am assuming that is why he moved it. | ||
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Ribbon
United States5278 Posts
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Ryo
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Ribbon
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Caihead
Canada8550 Posts
On July 02 2012 17:06 Ribbon wrote: Jesus, hydra's reaction times are really slow. He keeps flying mutas over the same stalker clump because he's not looking at hem. Hydra needs to listen to live to win while having a training montage to further spark his interest in SC2 | ||
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Ribbon
United States5278 Posts
Fortunately for him, Hydra went like 10 minutes without teching. | ||
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Vlanitak
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BLinD-RawR
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Ribbon
United States5278 Posts
On July 02 2012 17:09 Vlanitak wrote: Hydras desicion making not the best tpday Yeah, that game was really weird. Why no infestors? Interesting to see tons of static defense, though. I guess that's one way to prevent one-engagement-into-gg | ||
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raga4ka
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blade55555
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tenacity
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Vlanitak
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lichter
1001 YEARS KESPAJAIL22272 Posts
On July 02 2012 17:14 tenacity wrote: huh, do they now start with the sc2 sets? The BW set started 2 hrs ago and finished already =/ | ||
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blade55555
United States17423 Posts
On July 02 2012 17:14 tenacity wrote: huh, do they now start with the sc2 sets? No bw sets were already played. YES JAEDONG! | ||
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Vlanitak
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lichter
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Dodgin
Canada39254 Posts
dem JD fangirls | ||
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raga4ka
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vanhio
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blade55555
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nweb
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nweb
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On July 02 2012 17:24 Vlanitak wrote: Seems like tl gets a shoutout *finds the sign* hi | ||
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GTR
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Ribbon
United States5278 Posts
On July 02 2012 17:25 raga4ka wrote: Fuck now i don't know who i want to win . I want Jaedong to win , but i also want CJ and Effort to win :/ . I'll always root against Hero[join]. It's interesting that these games are going at at the same time as the GSL Players' OSL pre-lims. I really want to see GSL vs SPL in the OSL, especially with real SC2 players in it, like Symbol and MarineKing. I sincerely like how every ZvP starts almost identically. | ||
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Vlanitak
Norway3045 Posts
Edit: grrrr voidrays. | ||
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blade55555
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Ribbon
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tenacity
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blade55555
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KobraKay
Portugal4231 Posts
On July 02 2012 17:37 tenacity wrote: jaedong looks younger with the new haircut I was wondering if I was the only one who thought so :p Well infested terrans...zergs sign of dispair! Edit: Until a f*cking backstap ofcourse. | ||
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raga4ka
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shucklesors
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GTR
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vanhio
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oBlade
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MyNameIsAlex
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Fragile51
Netherlands15767 Posts
EDIT: Nope! | ||
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Nikon
Bulgaria5710 Posts
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Asha
United Kingdom38255 Posts
Just got to hold the counter and he wins NO FUNGALNOOOO and omg losing infestors on rally | ||
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Kiett
United States7639 Posts
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blade55555
United States17423 Posts
On July 02 2012 17:40 GTR wrote: just in a matter of minutes jaedong takes out two nexuses. damn. Yeah but lost his army in the process, wasn't worth it imo same with infestor energy. That cost him the game was losing the army and using all his infestor energy | ||
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GTR
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Vundox
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BLinD-RawR
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Looms
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GTR
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On July 02 2012 17:41 blade55555 wrote: Yeah but lost his army in the process, wasn't worth it imo same with infestor energy. That cost him the game was losing the army and using all his infestor energy strange he was so slow in putting down the spines. he had to know hero would have to go for an all-in after inflicting that damage. | ||
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johnnywup
United States3858 Posts
On July 02 2012 17:42 Nikon wrote: The fuck... how did Jaedong lose that game? This doesn't make sense. had no support for BLs, spines werent up in time, not enough infestor energy | ||
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Wunder
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zaii
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Amlitzer
United States471 Posts
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bgx
Poland6595 Posts
On July 02 2012 17:42 OopsOopsBaby wrote: kill 2 base and lose. Everyone who play zerg in sc2 knows this shit, if you cant destroy Protoss deathball its irrelevant what dmg you do to his economy. | ||
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Nikon
Bulgaria5710 Posts
On July 02 2012 17:42 Kvz wrote: lol protoss. sometimes sc2 makes me mad It's the size of the map, not the races. | ||
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blade55555
United States17423 Posts
On July 02 2012 17:42 Nikon wrote: The fuck... how did Jaedong lose that game? This doesn't make sense. Had no infestor energy to stop the blink stalkers (he used them to kill 4'th nexus). Lost his whole army to kill a nexus and the protoss lost close to nothing. It looked nice, but in reality it wasn't a smart decision. He didn't have the bank to get a ton of bl's and roach/ling support. His infestors had no energy so he couldn't stop the blink on high ground. | ||
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lichter
1001 YEARS KESPAJAIL22272 Posts
On July 02 2012 17:42 Nikon wrote: The fuck... how did Jaedong lose that game? This doesn't make sense. He had no army support for BroodLords and no energy on his infestors. There was no way he was winning an engagement. | ||
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Norada
China482 Posts
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raga4ka
Bulgaria5679 Posts
It doesn't matter , because now we will see Effort and an ACE match , hopefully a good one where CJ wins . | ||
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dmnum
Brazil6910 Posts
On July 02 2012 17:42 Nikon wrote: The fuck... how did Jaedong lose that game? This doesn't make sense. traded his whole army and all infestor energy for 2 bases, without having a spine wall to stall the counter until he had broods and units to cover them | ||
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Australia2107 Posts
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Ribbon
United States5278 Posts
On July 02 2012 17:42 Nikon wrote: The fuck... how did Jaedong lose that game? This doesn't make sense. He traded his whole army + all his infestor energy for two expos, so Hero[join] all-inned in desperation and Jaedong didn't have enough to defend. Had he stalled Hero[join]'s army for about 10 more seconds, he'd have won. | ||
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AIOL!
France962 Posts
i trust in him. | ||
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nweb
198 Posts
On July 02 2012 17:41 Vundox wrote: sigh JD deserved to win this -_- Tech behind what it should be, when he was behind he exhanged his army supply for two nexuses, didn't have enough army / built spines to defend. I see why those new to SC2 would think that though | ||
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Ribbon
United States5278 Posts
On July 02 2012 17:43 Norada wrote: only in sc2 can you take out 2 bases but the toss can walk to your base in less than 20s to get you before your respawn >: That's why top SC2 Zergs have a spine crawler wall. Even a small one would've won Jaedong the game. | ||
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blade55555
United States17423 Posts
On July 02 2012 17:43 AIOL! wrote: Jaedong played bad, many strategical mistakes. He doesn't know the game yet TT. He could have won this hundred of times, ZvP is so imbalanced on this map.... Just too many mistakes. But he has a godlike macro i trust in him.It doesn't favor zerg that much only like 2%. It all goes on if the toss defends the 200/200 roach push as it's hard to secure a fourth on antiga most of the time as Z. | ||
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Fragile51
Netherlands15767 Posts
Has nothing to do with the size of the map lol, JD just played that terribly. | ||
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Nikon
Bulgaria5710 Posts
On July 02 2012 17:43 Ribbon wrote: He traded his whole army + all his infestor energy for two expos, so Hero[join] all-inned in desperation and Jaedong didn't have enough to defend. Had he stalled Hero[join]'s army for about 10 more seconds, he'd have won. So it is the small map after all -.-;; At least they're not playing Steppes of War in tournaments any more lol. | ||
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lichter
1001 YEARS KESPAJAIL22272 Posts
On July 02 2012 17:43 AIOL! wrote: Jaedong played bad, many strategical mistakes. He doesn't know the game yet TT. He could have won this hundred of times, ZvP is so imbalanced on this map.... Just too many mistakes. But he has a godlike macro i trust in him.To be honest his SC2 macro isn't that great yet. He should have gone a huge round of drones when his fourth came up after his attack instead of going for more lings that didn't really do that much. | ||
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raga4ka
Bulgaria5679 Posts
On July 02 2012 17:44 Ribbon wrote: That's why top SC2 Zergs have a spine crawler wall. Even a small one would've won Jaedong the game. Yeah looks like late spines is the bane for Jaedong in SC2 also . He was notorious in BW for geting late sunkens also and relying to much on his micro , though it was the best micro in the world . | ||
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bgx
Poland6595 Posts
On July 02 2012 17:46 Nikon wrote: So it is the small map after all -.-;; At least they're not playing Steppes of War in tournaments any more lol. No its not, thats stupid argument, you choose your strategy based on map. | ||
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Fragile51
Netherlands15767 Posts
On July 02 2012 17:46 Nikon wrote: So it is the small map after all -.-;; At least they're not playing Steppes of War in tournaments any more lol. Antiga is not small, stop making excuses >_> | ||
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0neder
United States3733 Posts
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0neder
United States3733 Posts
On July 02 2012 17:47 Fragile51 wrote: Antiga is not small, stop making excuses >_> Just because it's not steppes of war, doesn't make it not small. These guys should be playing on tal'darim size stuff. | ||
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Fragile51
Netherlands15767 Posts
On July 02 2012 17:47 0neder wrote: Just because it's not steppes of war, doesn't make it not small. These guys should be playing on tal'darim size stuff. ...No they shouldn't. | ||
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Nikon
Bulgaria5710 Posts
On July 02 2012 17:47 bgx wrote: No its not, thats stupid argument, you choose your strategy based on map. Except that SC2 maps are generally smaller than the BW ones.  EffOrt vs  BaBy up next.On July 02 2012 17:47 Fragile51 wrote: Antiga is not small, stop making excuses >_> Play some BW maps and compare the size to the SC2 ones. I'm not making any excuses, that is how it is. | ||
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Fragile51
Netherlands15767 Posts
On July 02 2012 17:50 Nikon wrote: Except that SC2 maps are generally smaller than the BW ones. Effort vs Baby up next. The PL BW maps are all 128x128. Antiga is 132x136. Stop talking out of your ass please. | ||
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raga4ka
Bulgaria5679 Posts
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nweb
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Nikon
Bulgaria5710 Posts
On July 02 2012 17:52 Fragile51 wrote: The PL BW maps are all 128x128. Antiga is 132x136. Stop talking out of your ass please. Play some four player BW maps, then come back and play Antiga. Or are you just here to annoy me? | ||
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raga4ka
Bulgaria5679 Posts
On July 02 2012 17:52 nweb wrote: LOL at some posts in this thread. JD plays BW better, it has bigger maps. JD played like he plays BW on smaller SC2 maps. Therefore, SC2 maps should be bigger. Well SC2 maps should become bigger in general regardless of JD or not . Most of them are medium sized and only entombed in PL makes for the best long macro games . | ||
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lichter
1001 YEARS KESPAJAIL22272 Posts
On July 02 2012 17:52 nweb wrote: LOL at some posts in this thread. JD plays BW better, it has bigger maps. JD played like he plays BW on smaller SC2 maps. Therefore, SC2 maps should be bigger. Everyone knows they are the same game right :p | ||
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Ribbon
United States5278 Posts
Fun fact: Tal'Darim is the most balanced map in SC2 history. The reason it fell out of favor so hard was PvP. The problem with super huge maps like Calm Before the Storm is how much they encourage turtling. They haven't really perfected the SC2 map yet. That's one of the reasons I'm interested in SPL. I really want KeSPA to try their hand at the SC2 mapmaking scene. | ||
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Fragile51
Netherlands15767 Posts
On July 02 2012 17:53 Nikon wrote: Play some four player BW maps, then come back and play Antiga. Or are you just here to annoy me? No, i'm here to prove you wrong. That's clearly all i'm here for. Jaedong played the map wrong, end of story. Also, bigger maps usually favour Protoss, not Zerg. | ||
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bgx
Poland6595 Posts
On July 02 2012 17:50 Nikon wrote: Except that SC2 maps are generally smaller than the BW ones. Effort vs Baby up next. Can't follow your logic sorry. | ||
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Ribbon
United States5278 Posts
Well, Ohana is a tiny map, so there we all go. | ||
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nweb
198 Posts
On July 02 2012 17:56 Ribbon wrote: Are we seriously having a flamewar about numbers? Well, Ohana is a tiny map, so there we all go. Ohana is 121x136 > 128x128  | ||
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zaii
Guam2611 Posts
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raga4ka
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Fragile51
Netherlands15767 Posts
On July 02 2012 17:59 zaii wrote: if effort wins it goes to ace match? Yeah. | ||
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AIOL!
France962 Posts
On July 02 2012 17:45 blade55555 wrote: It doesn't favor zerg that much only like 2%. It all goes on if the toss defends the 200/200 roach push as it's hard to secure a fourth on antiga most of the time as Z. I'll count the mistakes: 1) he takes his gas to late and tech too late (evo, roch, T2) -> can't adapt enough, earliers timings are made to adapt at everything the protoss can do, not to have the maximum efficiency on the 12 max roech push. He doesn't seem to understand that TT 2) T2 too late -> speed roach too late, he didn't want to push until it finishes -> too late 3) He should have done his Stephano push instead of letting the protoss take b3 and make his deathball, plus he waited too much @ engaging the fight. He fought at like 12.30 or 13 wich is way too late. I don't know what the fuck he was doing waiting for his air tech etc... He just had to push at like 10.30 ~ 11, the roach push at this timing on this map is imba. And it's even stronger when the oponent goes on void ray. 4) He could have won this but made his transition way too late by wanting too finish the game on his too late push. 5) the protoss played passively and allowed him to transition into BL (taking b4 etc...) sadly JD throwed away the game by trading his army for economy werhas he needed it to delay and support broodlords. Plus he trhrow away infestors energy on a useless b4, this is a dumb move. He should instead build a ton of spines. He had so many ways to win this game but he played bad tactically, i hope in a few months he will be able to understand his mistakes, his macro is so good he can only rape asses if he understands the game. | ||
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Nikon
Bulgaria5710 Posts
On July 02 2012 17:55 Fragile51 wrote: No, i'm here to prove you wrong. That's clearly all i'm here for. Jaedong played the map wrong, end of story. Also, bigger maps usually favour Protoss, not Zerg. Not really, since Zerg is generally more mobile, but... whatever. Another disappointing day of PL Carcass indeed, Lightwhip. | ||
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TheMenace
Germany244 Posts
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lichter
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Asha
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GTR
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zaii
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KobraKay
Portugal4231 Posts
On July 02 2012 17:42 Amlitzer wrote: I'm really tired of seeing JD lose like this, they need to stop putting him out for sc2 in till they know he can win a game. Of course the team 8 coach won't do that because he knows everyone is there to see him. There is also the part that if he cant play SC2 he cant play BW either....... On to the size discussion yes maps can be bigger but if everything moves 5 times as fast and occupy a larger screen part, even a map with double the size will be smaller. | ||
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Ribbon
United States5278 Posts
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Asha
United Kingdom38255 Posts
On July 02 2012 18:04 GTR wrote: think effort is way too behind to comeback =[ He's still got 70 drones and equivalent ups, so I don't think it's too bad Baby playing pretty nicely and I really like how much he powered up after being effective with his harass. | ||
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GTR
51449 Posts
slow banelings are painful to watch though. | ||
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Nikon
Bulgaria5710 Posts
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zaii
Guam2611 Posts
On July 02 2012 18:04 GTR wrote: think effort is way too behind to comeback =[ what do you think now? | ||
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Portugal4231 Posts
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BLinD-RawR
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pdd
Australia9933 Posts
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Tsubbi
Germany7996 Posts
basically the starport placement behind his minerals got baby a huge advantage | ||
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TheMenace
Germany244 Posts
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blade55555
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Fishgle
United States2174 Posts
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raga4ka
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Asha
United Kingdom38255 Posts
Baby's bio being very cost effective | ||
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lichter
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craaaaack
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Ribbon
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shucklesors
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letian
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Looms
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TheMenace
Germany244 Posts
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Fragile51
Netherlands15767 Posts
On July 02 2012 18:15 letian wrote: Do ultralisk ever die in SC2? Yes. More often then not, actually. | ||
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GTR
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KobraKay
Portugal4231 Posts
come on you can do this....just dont run into stim'd marines with so many medivacs :s | ||
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Looms
United States4624 Posts
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Asha
United Kingdom38255 Posts
On July 02 2012 18:15 letian wrote: Do ultralisk ever die in SC2? This is a comment I never thought I'd read XDDD | ||
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raga4ka
Bulgaria5679 Posts
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blade55555
United States17423 Posts
On July 02 2012 18:17 Asha` wrote: This is a comment I never thought I'd read XDDD LOL me to hahaha. | ||
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TheMenace
Germany244 Posts
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raga4ka
Bulgaria5679 Posts
On July 02 2012 18:18 TheMenace wrote: sometimes I dont get why zergs spend 2 fungals and 3 infested terrans to kill a medivac without cargo. They don't know if it has cargo or not ? | ||
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Lunareste
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GTR
51449 Posts
silly move from effort losing him the game | ||
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blade55555
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Ribbon
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Asha
United Kingdom38255 Posts
 Finally PL gets a great TvZ ^_^ | ||
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Fragile51
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raga4ka
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CTangent
United States125 Posts
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Ribbon
United States5278 Posts
On July 02 2012 18:19 Lunareste wrote: Great game, action all over the map, I like it. If more SC2 looked like that, people wouldn't have as much of an issue with it. | ||
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haka
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AIOL!
France962 Posts
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Kiett
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[Silverflame]
Germany640 Posts
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Existential
Australia2107 Posts
WOOO T8!!!! | ||
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Germany414 Posts
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zaii
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Lunareste
United States3596 Posts
On July 02 2012 18:20 blade55555 wrote: The lone ultralisk. Off to tell the hive what happened to the others! "And there are 50 siege tanks and 50 marines and 100 marauders! I got through them all to get back here to tell you!" | ||
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architecture
United States643 Posts
On July 02 2012 18:21 Ribbon wrote: If more SC2 looked like that, people wouldn't have as much of an issue with it. TvT and TvZ are practically the only matchups where there's even a possibility of this right now. | ||
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letian
Germany4221 Posts
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BLinD-RawR
ALLEYCAT BLUES50121 Posts
On July 02 2012 18:24 architecture wrote: TvT and TvZ are practically the only matchups where there's even a possibility of this right now. TvPs that do not have that unit that I don't like also tend to turn out this way. | ||
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Nikon
Bulgaria5710 Posts
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jnd
Czech Republic915 Posts
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letian
Germany4221 Posts
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Ribbon
United States5278 Posts
On July 02 2012 18:25 BLinD-RawR wrote: TvPs that do not have that unit that I don't like also tend to turn out this way. If HotS does one thing right, it's making more things that hard-counter tripods and nothing that tripods are good against. | ||
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BLinD-RawR
ALLEYCAT BLUES50121 Posts
On July 02 2012 18:27 letian wrote: wow, first BW game got no dislikes, something special, gonna watch it Watch it now. Seriously DO IT | ||
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Kergy
Peru2011 Posts
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zawk9
United States427 Posts
On July 02 2012 18:12 Ribbon wrote: This TvZ is streets ahead of any SPL game I've seen I strongly agree. Also nice reference | ||
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bgx
Poland6595 Posts
No tripods ! | ||
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Lucumo
6850 Posts
That just means he has never watched a BW TvZ game. | ||
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zawk9
United States427 Posts
On July 02 2012 18:31 Lucumo wrote: That just means he has never watched a BW TvZ game. I have actually, but Ribbon was referencing Proleague SC2 games. | ||
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Lucumo
6850 Posts
On July 02 2012 18:32 zawk9 wrote: I have actually, but Ribbon was referencing Proleague SC2 games. Yep, that's why he wrote "any SPL game". | ||
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Ribbon
United States5278 Posts
I actually did mean "SPL SC2 game" :| | ||
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Caihead
Canada8550 Posts
fuck yea T8! | ||
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Ribbon
United States5278 Posts
On July 02 2012 18:41 Caihead wrote: lol i was busy updating a thread than watching these games, and ofcourse they turn out to be like the best ones of the season, lol fuck yea T8! To the VODs! It was primarily the first BW game and the last SC2 game that provided most of the buzz, but all the BW games were good, and the second SC2 game, with Jaedong, was pretty entertaining until a sudden crash ending sucked the joy out of it. The last SC2 game wasn't that good, but it was the first actually good SC2 game in SPL, and that's why people are happy. There might well be people in this thread who never enjoyed an SC2 game before that one. | ||
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zawk9
United States427 Posts
Yeah brain fart on my end, but he did clarify that he was referencing SC2 and I guess I must have thought it was pretty much implicit. | ||
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Lucumo
6850 Posts
That's what I guessed but since it was you, I just had to mention it | ||
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Ribbon
United States5278 Posts
On July 02 2012 18:52 Lucumo wrote: That's what I guessed but since it was you, I just had to mention it I like BW! Quite a bit, in fact. | ||
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Caihead
Canada8550 Posts
On July 02 2012 18:45 Ribbon wrote: To the VODs! It was primarily the first BW game and the last SC2 game that provided most of the buzz, but all the BW games were good, and the second SC2 game, with Jaedong, was pretty entertaining until a sudden crash ending sucked the joy out of it. The last SC2 game wasn't that good, but it was the first actually good SC2 game in SPL, and that's why people are happy. There might well be people in this thread who never enjoyed an SC2 game before that one. and i'm actually on a 11 correct vote streak in liquibets =3 also finally got in touch with the chinese peeps, good day good day | ||
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South Africa392 Posts
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Australia374 Posts
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rysecake
United States2632 Posts
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United States10341 Posts
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Caihead
Canada8550 Posts
On July 03 2012 10:00 MountainDewJunkie wrote: Game 1 was kind of agonizing. Tyson has been so bad for team 8 all year, and then he goes and manners these Nexi, and then he loses 3 expansions and doesn't bother scouting Leta's ONLY mining expo until after he loses 3 of his. I feel like Tyson didn't play all that well, not well enough for that level of BM. He was ahead the entire game, but Leta wasn't lost by any means. It wasn't fantasy gg timing. Please BM when the game is actually out of hand, not when your only talent is making lots of units and suiciding them for 30 minutes Made it a hilarious game to watch though, ghosts with lockdown and DA's feedbacking ghosts? Come on~ | ||
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blade55555
United States17423 Posts
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X10A
Canada9837 Posts
Game one was hilarious, poor mans Hiya vs Free | ||
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France2982 Posts
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