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TOURNAMENT COMPLETED!!
Find the bracket here:
http://challonge.com/sgsddminusopen1
First Place: Ecrilon
Second Place: sabas123
CLOSING COMMENTS:
On October 24 2011 05:52 duncan.mc wrote:
Great tournament everyone! I have a few closing comments:
First, thanks to all the participants who came out and had fun. I definitely enjoyed watching you guys. Congrats to Ecrilon for the win and to sabas123 for his great run to the finals. We hope to see y'all next time!
Secondly, thanks to the casters and streamers - L_Master, TheNessman, and Nazza - y'all were imperative for making this a success 'cause you let us all watch and enjoy the games together.
Also, big shoutout to Sayle and the organizers of the GosuCup. I didn't realize the GC started this Sunday or a I wouldn't have scheduled at the same time. I will definitely be more aware of that in the future (I had to have y'alls stream open at the same time to watch both).
Lastly, as this was the first tournament we held, there were definitely growing pains. There were moments of clear unprofessionalism and they will be addressed for future tournaments. This includes absolutely NO chatting in game by any observers, and having /dnd on for the participants. It was something that should've been included in the rules, but wasn't. That falls on me as the organizer and I apologize for that.
All in all, I think it went well and it's definitely something we can build on. Be sure to give me any feedback you have about the tourney as I want to take it into consideration for future D/D- tourneys or D+/C- tourneys.
Thanks for watching!
Hey everyone! Clan sGs is putting together a low level open tournament as a fun community event. When BW was more popular many of us enjoyed lan tournament parties in college dorms or home living rooms. Most of us weren't ever any good, but we had fun hanging out and playing. This is what we want to bring back to our now much smaller community.
FORMAT (MAP UPDATE!):
32 player tournament
Single Elimination
RO32 - Semifinals: Bo1, Finals: Bo3
RO32: Python
RO16: Circuit Breaker
RO8: Fighting Spirit
Semifinals: Grand Line
Finals: Bloody Ridge (then loser picks choice of any previous map unless already played in this series)
WHO:
As the title says, this tournament is for D/D- players only.
WHERE:
ICCUP channel "op sGs"
WHEN:
Sunday, October 23, 2011. 1900 CEST (1300 EDT).
Please check in to the designated channel 15 minutes prior to event start time.
HOW TO SIGN UP:
Reply to this topic with the following format to sign up:
ICCUP name:
Rank:
Race: (Just so people have an idea what they're about to play against)
Sign ups are only through TL at this time to help prevent smurfing. You do NOT have to be a member of sGs to sign up. The only requirements are that you'll be available to play the whole tourney if necessary and that you have a MAX rank of D/D-. If you're actually a C+ player but your account just happens to be at D right now, please don't sign up.
HOW TO WATCH:
L_Master will be streaming this event. His stream can be found here:
http://www.twitch.tv/l_master
Nazza streaming as well:
http://www.twitch.tv/nazza131
SIGNED UP:
Note: These are not final yet as I still need to sift out players that may be too highly ranked.
Also, though we have more than 16 entries, please continue to sign up if interested. Not everyone always shows up at event time, plus we may expand the tournament by one round if needed.
+ Show Spoiler +1.
TL ID: TheGlassface
ICCUP ID: TheGlassface
RANK: D- (D on a good run)
RACE: Random if allowed, P if not
2.
TL ID: chaosTheory_14cc
ICCUP ID: sGsChaosTheory
RANK:Max rank is C- but that was a loooooong time ago, and I have played so little recently I hardly think I'm even a D/D- player at the moment. Is that cool?
RACE: Terran
3.
TL ID: Kibibit
ICCUP ID: Kibibit/sGs.Danimoth
RANK: D-, previous max of D.
RACE: Zerg
4.
TL ID: Jaydan (May have timing conflict)
ICCUP ID: sGs.Shimy
RANK: D
RACE: Protoss
5.
TL ID: X10A
ICCUP ID: sGs.X10A or X10A
RANK: D-/D
RACE: Protoss
6.
TL ID: fencer
ICCUP ID: Curryinahurry
RANK: D
RACE: Protoss
7.
TL ID: Djagulingu
ICCUP ID: sGs.KeedCuddy
RANK: D
RACE: Zerg
8.
TL ID: domane
ICCUP ID: volfied
RANK: D-
RACE: Protoss
9.
TL ID: fabiano
ICCUP ID: sGsFabiano
RANK: D- (WTF since when 894 is D-?? I remember it was < 850 = D-, but whatever T_T)
RACE: Protoss, the manly race.
10.
TL ID: Voidsoul
ICCUP ID: sGs.Void
RANK: D/D- ish
RACE: Protoss
11.
TL ID: Ecrilon
ICCUP ID: Ecrilon
RANK: D, probably. I tend to play with friends more than I ladder. I got to like 1200 at one point!
RACE: Protoss
12.
TL ID: TheNessman
ICCUP ID: X_mungam
RANK: D
RACE: Zerg
13.
TL ID: Kalk
ICCUP ID: sGs.Kalk
RANK: d (hit d+ two times)
RACE: Zerg
14.
TL ID: Cheeriosxoxo
ICCUP ID: sGs.LoVe
RANK: D
RACE: Terran
15.
TL ID: Toasterbaked
ICCUP ID: lossmule
RANK: currently low D, at 1300-1400 ish. My Max rank is around 1800
RACE: Terran
16.
TL ID: lyAsakura
ICCUP ID: -jjDew
RANK: D
RACE: Terran
17.
TL ID: Zero[1159]
ICCUP ID: sGs.Zero1159
RANK: D
RACE: Terran
18.
TL ID: PinkBoBJAM
ICCUP ID: sGs.Maltron
RANK: D
RACE: Zerg
19.
TL ID: sheaRZerg
ICCUP ID: sGs.sheaR (or sheaR)
RANK: D
RACE: Z
20.
TL ID: Ruscour
ICCUP ID: sGsRuscour
RANK: D
RACE: Protoss
21.
TL ID: sluggaslamoo
ICCUP ID: sGs.SluGG
RANK: D
RACE: TvP, TvZ, ZvT
22.
TL ID: MorningMusume11
ICCUP ID: sGs.AiriSuzuki
RANK: D+(yeah right)/D/E-
RACE: Terran
23.
TL ID: Sega92
ICCUP ID: sGs.sega
RANK: D "to the minus" -
RACE: Terran
24.
TL ID: KTF_CloaK
ICCUP ID: ReZuya
RANK: D
RACE: Protoss, Zerg if ZvZ
25.
TL ID: Netto.
ICCUP ID: Rew22
RANK: D
RACE: Zerg
26.
TL ID: Ribbon
ICCUP ID: Ribbon
RANK: D
RACE: Brotoss
27.
TL ID: aokces
ICCUP ID: aokces
RANK: D (D+ on one occasion)
RACE: Random (or zerg if I HAVE to choose)
28.
TL ID: t0ssboy
ICCUP ID: SlayerS_T0sboy
RANK: D
RACE: Protoss
29.
TL ID: sabas123
ICCUP ID: sabas123
RANK: D/d-
RACE: P
30.
TL ID: Fakie
ICCUP ID: SaiNT_TesLa
RANK: D
RACE: Random. ( but it's more reactionary. For example if he's Terran, I'll go zeros or Protoss. So it depends on the other person's race. )
31.
TL ID: Eywa-
ICCUP ID: Utra_Aymokriya
RANK: D
RACE: R/Z(if I actually want to win games)
32.
TL ID: WCK
ICCUP ID: Catpaul
RANK: D
RACE: Terran
33.
TL ID: s9_IU
ICCUP ID: sgs.iu
RANK: D-
RACE: protoss
34.
TL ID: MrChupee
ICCUP ID: MrChupee
RANK: D
RACE: Terran
35.
TL ID: ghostkiller210
ICCUP ID: ghostkiller
RANK: D/D-
RACE: P
And that's it! We know it's a fairly short notice but it's not intended to be an epic event. It's intended to be short, sweet, and fun. Depending on feedback from viewers/participants, we may create open tourneys for other ranks such as D+/C-.
The 16 player limit is not set in stone, it is flexible based on how much interest we have.
IMPORTANT NOTES:
Participants need to read this!!!
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There WILL be one extra round added because of the number of entries. We're hard-capping the tourney at 32 though. Entries above 32 are on the waitlist and will play if the full 32 doesn't show up (likely). The map to be added is Grand Line. See the order of maps in FORMAT above.
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To decrease the chance that smurfs make it through, I'm not opening the tourney up on ICCup's tournament system (because I don't know a way, if any, that I can create the participant list myself). Check in is 15 minutes prior to the start of the event. If you come earlier that would be appreciated. Show up to channel "op sGs" on ICCup and look for me, sGs.Smile, to let me know you're ready. I'm creating the bracket on a website and will post the link in this OP at tourney start time. Use it to know who you play.
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THE CUTOFF FOR CHECK IN IS AT THE TOURNEY START TIME as that is when I will publish the bracket to begin games.
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I'll be available in the "op sGs" throughout the tourney. After each game, tell me the result and I'll update the bracket immediately.
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Your ICCup ID must match EXACTLY the ICCup ID you've written in this thread or I won't accept it.
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All map versions used are from ICCup's latest mappack v2.0. Found here.
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Coooooool!!
This is an awesome idea!
ICCUP name: TheGlassface
Rank: D- (D on a good run)
Race: (Just so people have an idea what they're about to play against) : Random if allowed, P if not
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plz dont do the first map python, could you guys yust do veto
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Awesome idea, might let a friend of mine know about it, he'd be about that level 
I'd be down for the D+/C- tourny in any event :D
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ICCUP name: sGsChaosTheory
Rank: Max rank is C- but that was a loooooong time ago, and I have played so little recently I hardly think I'm even a D/D- player at the moment. Is that cool?
Race: Terran
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Iccup name: Kibibit/sGs.Danimoth. Depends on whether or not I've been pruned for inactivity
Rank: D-, previous max of D.
Race: Zerg
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maybe let these bad players not play on old maps that are not suited for newer playing styles which they probably would be practicing.
So especially maps like TauCross should not be used, imo. Python is questionable enough, but for no reason many new people still play it.
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ICCUP name: sGs.Shimy
Rank: D
Race: Protoss
I wish there was a way to make this event a little later in the day though T.T Put me in, but I might not be able to make it
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On October 21 2011 00:36 LML wrote:
maybe let these bad players not play on old maps that are not suited for newer playing styles which they probably would be practicing.
So especially maps like TauCross should not be used, imo. Python is questionable enough, but for no reason many new people still play it.
Yeah, I'd be down for a change to something like Circuit Breaker or Match Point. I'd also support a Python -> Destination Map change
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EDIT 2: Got sick, so I guess I'm back in if
TL ID: X10A
ICCUP ID: sGs.X10A or X10A
RANK: D-/D
RACE: Protoss
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We can definitely change maps if desired. When I chose maps I wasn't thinking so much in a competitive sense, more about what are simple and popular maps that people are familiar with.
On October 21 2011 00:36 Jaydan wrote:
ICCUP name: sGs.Shimy
Rank: D
Race: Protoss
I wish there was a way to make this event a little later in the day though T.T Put me in, but I might not be able to make it
We want European players to have a chance too. They start at 7pm as is.
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On October 21 2011 00:39 Kibibit wrote:Show nested quote +On October 21 2011 00:36 LML wrote:
maybe let these bad players not play on old maps that are not suited for newer playing styles which they probably would be practicing.
So especially maps like TauCross should not be used, imo. Python is questionable enough, but for no reason many new people still play it. Yeah, I'd be down for a change to something like Circuit Breaker or Match Point. I'd also support a Python -> Destination Map change
Definitely like the idea of putting in one or two newer maps, especially in favor of maps like tau/HBR. I doubt anybody that's really new knows Tau/HBR that well anyways, and playing on newer maps seems like a better idea to me.
Keeping python and FS is good since everybody plays though and tends to be the maps newer players are most familiar with.
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On October 21 2011 01:01 L_Master wrote:Show nested quote +On October 21 2011 00:39 Kibibit wrote:On October 21 2011 00:36 LML wrote:
maybe let these bad players not play on old maps that are not suited for newer playing styles which they probably would be practicing.
So especially maps like TauCross should not be used, imo. Python is questionable enough, but for no reason many new people still play it. Yeah, I'd be down for a change to something like Circuit Breaker or Match Point. I'd also support a Python -> Destination Map change Definitely like the idea of putting in one or two newer maps, especially in favor of maps like tau/HBR. I doubt anybody that's really new knows Tau/HBR that well anyways, and playing on newer maps seems like a better idea to me. Keeping python and FS is good since everybody plays though and tends to be the maps newer players are most familiar with.
I'd definitely agree.
Bloody Ridge, Circuit Breakers, Grand Line was great.
Please god no destination.
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On October 21 2011 00:05 chaosTheory_14cc wrote:
ICCUP name: sGsChaosTheory
Rank: Max rank is C- but that was a loooooong time ago, and I have played so little recently I hardly think I'm even a D/D- player at the moment. Is that cool?
Race: Terran
I would ask that you first play some games on ICCUP and see where you stack up. If you can get me a more definite feeling of where you are, that would be awesome.
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On October 21 2011 01:14 TheGlassface wrote:Show nested quote +On October 21 2011 01:01 L_Master wrote:On October 21 2011 00:39 Kibibit wrote:On October 21 2011 00:36 LML wrote:
maybe let these bad players not play on old maps that are not suited for newer playing styles which they probably would be practicing.
So especially maps like TauCross should not be used, imo. Python is questionable enough, but for no reason many new people still play it. Yeah, I'd be down for a change to something like Circuit Breaker or Match Point. I'd also support a Python -> Destination Map change Definitely like the idea of putting in one or two newer maps, especially in favor of maps like tau/HBR. I doubt anybody that's really new knows Tau/HBR that well anyways, and playing on newer maps seems like a better idea to me. Keeping python and FS is good since everybody plays though and tends to be the maps newer players are most familiar with. I'd definitely agree. Bloody Ridge, Circuit Breakers, Grand Line was great. Please god no destination.
Blashphemy.
How can one not like destination?! Such an awesome map. That and outsider. That said I'd most like to see python/FS + new(er) maps used.
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I'm gonna watch this, but D/D- games, it's gonna be hilarious and frustrating but mostly hilariously frustrating and in the off chance of a TvT I just might kill myself
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On October 21 2011 01:26 L_Master wrote:Show nested quote +On October 21 2011 01:14 TheGlassface wrote:On October 21 2011 01:01 L_Master wrote:On October 21 2011 00:39 Kibibit wrote:On October 21 2011 00:36 LML wrote:
maybe let these bad players not play on old maps that are not suited for newer playing styles which they probably would be practicing.
So especially maps like TauCross should not be used, imo. Python is questionable enough, but for no reason many new people still play it. Yeah, I'd be down for a change to something like Circuit Breaker or Match Point. I'd also support a Python -> Destination Map change Definitely like the idea of putting in one or two newer maps, especially in favor of maps like tau/HBR. I doubt anybody that's really new knows Tau/HBR that well anyways, and playing on newer maps seems like a better idea to me. Keeping python and FS is good since everybody plays though and tends to be the maps newer players are most familiar with. I'd definitely agree. Bloody Ridge, Circuit Breakers, Grand Line was great. Please god no destination. Blashphemy. How can one not like destination?! Such an awesome map. That and outsider. That said I'd most like to see python/FS + new(er) maps used.
100% lose rate can make a man hate 'dem bridges, knowhowimean?
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ICCUP name: sGs.KeedCuddy
Rank: D
Race: Zerg
I hit D+ once but I can't hang with other D+. I'd fall back to D easily if I played more ladder games (I have 0% win rate against D+ players that played against me in melee games).
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On October 21 2011 01:33 TheGlassface wrote:Show nested quote +On October 21 2011 01:26 L_Master wrote:On October 21 2011 01:14 TheGlassface wrote:On October 21 2011 01:01 L_Master wrote:On October 21 2011 00:39 Kibibit wrote:On October 21 2011 00:36 LML wrote:
maybe let these bad players not play on old maps that are not suited for newer playing styles which they probably would be practicing.
So especially maps like TauCross should not be used, imo. Python is questionable enough, but for no reason many new people still play it. Yeah, I'd be down for a change to something like Circuit Breaker or Match Point. I'd also support a Python -> Destination Map change Definitely like the idea of putting in one or two newer maps, especially in favor of maps like tau/HBR. I doubt anybody that's really new knows Tau/HBR that well anyways, and playing on newer maps seems like a better idea to me. Keeping python and FS is good since everybody plays though and tends to be the maps newer players are most familiar with. I'd definitely agree. Bloody Ridge, Circuit Breakers, Grand Line was great. Please god no destination. Blashphemy. How can one not like destination?! Such an awesome map. That and outsider. That said I'd most like to see python/FS + new(er) maps used. 100% lose rate can make a man hate 'dem bridges, knowhowimean?
I understand, man. I hate 'dem bridges too.
So I think I'll definitely change Tau to Circuit Breaker. For HBR I'd like to change it out for another 2-player map if anything. Would Bloody Ridge be the best option?
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ICCUP name: volfied
Rank: D-
Race: Protoss
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ICCUP name: sGsFabiano
Rank: D- (WTF since when 894 is D-?? I remember it was < 850 = D-, but whatever T_T)
Race: Protoss, the manly race.
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lets hope no smurfs get into this. i say we lynch them if they do!
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So ok, I admit I've hit D+ twice, but I wasn't able to play for almost a year now. I'm terribad now and am trying to get used to a new keyboard as well... so yeah
ICCUP name: sGs.Void
Rank: D/D- ish
Race: Protoss
Alternatively I would be willing to cast. I have not even set up a stream yet and I honestly don't know if I will be able to with my shoddy 2000 bit connection, but I'll try hard. If anyone has any advice btw feel free to PM me here... A dual cast with someone inviting me onto a working stream would also work of course...
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ICCup name: Ecrilon
Rank: D, probably. I tend to play with friends more than I ladder. I got to like 1200 at one point!
Race: Protoss
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On October 21 2011 01:55 fabiano wrote:
ICCUP name: sGsFabiano
Rank: D- (WTF since when 894 is D-?? I remember it was < 850 = D-, but whatever T_T)
Race: Protoss, the manly race.
D- is <900
I'd volunteer to do some casting, but I'm too traumatized from casting Lumire's P.
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ICCUP name: X_mungam
Rank: D
Race: Zerg
I would actually also be interested in casting this if you needed a caster still!! I have a stream set up already!?!?
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On October 21 2011 02:10 FlameSworD wrote:
skyhighftw
d d+
terran
I'll give it more review, but based on your ICCup results I believe you are overqualified for this tournament. It might not be fair to the other players.
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On October 21 2011 04:21 Jumperer wrote:
ICCUP name: Jumperer
Rank: B+
Race: Protoss
However, you're fine Jumperer. Good luck in the tourney!
EDIT: Sorry, I should've edited my first post instead of double posting.
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Ok, I just tested my connection and read up on some constraints and unless you guys know a way to stream a cast with 0.15 Mbps upstream I will not be able to singlecast that stuff... But we (Snipinpanda, TheNessman) could team up if you like or make an cast/observer combo. But unless someone knows a way to sort that out I can't be the observer...
I'm also still willing to play but I leave that decision to duncan.mc 
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Hi,
long time I was just lurking around, but for this tourney I had to register.
If Void should be allowed to play, so I should be too, cause I know hes better than me.
Iccup name: sGs.Kalk
Rank: d (hit d+ two times)
Race: Zerg
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UGH!!! Too bad i quit SC... T.T this would have been so fun... and WTF? B+ lmao. gg.
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Arghh...I wish I could play, but unfortunately I don't think I can make it on Sunday at 1 PM
I will try my best to play this great tournament though...
sGs.Aldebaran
highest rank D (~1500)
Protoss
I'm not 100% sure if I can make it or not, but is there any kind of penalty for not showing up? I would really like to play this tournament but I just don't know if I can make it...
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Ewwww..... Python
I would play but i really don't like that map :S.
To further clarify, you have to play TvP differently because you can't secure third easily without going for a heavy midgame push of some sort.
TvZ you have a chance of getting a close air distance, which can be pretty bad for Terran.
Should substitute Python for Circuit Breakers imo, since it is also a 4 player map, but the player spawns are the same FS.
Destination isn't really standard either. People end up playing Mech in TvZ, which i'm not saying is bad, but at lower levels, people should be practicing bio play imo.
HBR is actually a good map for standard play. So is blue storm if you are looking for another good single player map.
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ICCUP Name: sGs.LoVe
Rank: D
Race: Terran
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ICCUP Name: lossmule
Rank: currently low D, at 1300-1400 ish. My Max rank is around 1800
Race: Terran
I've been waiting for a tourney like this, just for fun and beginner-friendly.
I love python.
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On October 21 2011 05:06 Nazza wrote:
Ewwww..... Python
I would play but i really don't like that map :S.
To further clarify, you have to play TvP differently because you can't secure third easily without going for a heavy midgame push of some sort.
TvZ you have a chance of getting a close air distance, which can be pretty bad for Terran.
Should substitute Python for Circuit Breakers imo, since it is also a 4 player map, but the player spawns are the same FS.
Destination isn't really standard either. People end up playing Mech in TvZ, which i'm not saying is bad, but at lower levels, people should be practicing bio play imo.
HBR is actually a good map for standard play. So is blue storm if you are looking for another good single player map.
I just want to say I think you should be able to go Mech at lower levels. It's a solid strategy, and practicing bio is fine and all but if you feel like you can pull Mech against Z off then I say go for it. No matter what level you are.
Python is an awkward map though, no doubt.
Then again, I don't care if anyone plays standard. ;s
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On October 21 2011 05:06 Nazza wrote:
Ewwww..... Python
I would play but i really don't like that map :S.
To further clarify, you have to play TvP differently because you can't secure third easily without going for a heavy midgame push of some sort.
TvZ you have a chance of getting a close air distance, which can be pretty bad for Terran.
Should substitute Python for Circuit Breakers imo, since it is also a 4 player map, but the player spawns are the same FS.
Destination isn't really standard either. People end up playing Mech in TvZ, which i'm not saying is bad, but at lower levels, people should be practicing bio play imo.
HBR is actually a good map for standard play. So is blue storm if you are looking for another good single player map.
Python will probably be in the rotation simple because its the map that EVERYONE knows. Desti, HBR, Tau, et. al will not be.
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I'm in, ill create an sgs account because I was planning to anyway.
That said, map pool needs to change IMO.
You can't Forge FE properly on Python, Tau Cross sucks, and HBR is very imbalanced.
The initial rounds should be Fighting Spirit, because everyone knows it and its more balanced than Python.
The other maps should be like others have mentioned, Circuit Breaker, Grandline, Bloody Ridge.
I would also throw in Monte Cristo, and some new proleague maps.
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so much good players will create d/d- accounts just to have fun
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I believe Python is fine, it gives people the chance to use some oldschool strats such as 2rax fe, 2fact into 5fact timing or even 1 gate core for Protoss. Different maps call for different strategies, you can't rely on your cookie cutter build to work on all maps.
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On October 21 2011 09:09 Musiq wrote:
I believe Python is fine, it gives people the chance to use some oldschool strats such as 2rax fe, 2fact into 5fact timing or even 1 gate core for Protoss. Different maps call for different strategies, you can't rely on your cookie cutter build to work on all maps.
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Yeah except 2 fact sucks, and 2 rax FE sucks. They aren't old school because of the maps, they are old school because people have learned to defend against them and come out on top economically.
If you 1 base as Protoss you are instantly behind against a Zerg that can defend against it, same goes for 2 rax and 2 fact.
And the reasoning behind using python is so players can play standard on a map everyone knows. Otherwise the bad players are just gonna play REALLY bad, because they don't know what builds are suitable for what maps. Problem is builds that work on Python are not standard anymore. I bet most D- players use Forge FE, and they are going to use it on python and they are going to lose because of it.
You are going to get a ton of Zergs making it through the early rounds. If I actually play, I might just switch to Zerg from Terran just for Python and just win with 2 hatch speedling muta all-ins.
Fighting Spirit should really be the first map.
EDIT: Realised I probably can't play the whole tourney, coz it will be 4 am and I have to leave for uni at about 7:30. T_T.
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Lets just roll with these maps for now, to see how the event goes, like a trial.
Then next tournament we could use better maps, such as Fighting Spirit, Circuit Breakers and Match Point.
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On October 21 2011 09:08 Thebbeuttiffulland wrote:
so much good players will create d/d- accounts just to have fun
We're trying to eliminate this by making people sign up through their TL account. People generally know who's good on here and who's not. No ICCup ID will be able to play that's not written here in this thread and we can tie that ICCup ID to the TL ID. The best we can do if someone is lying about their rank here is just blacklist them from our future tournaments.
On October 21 2011 09:22 sluggaslamoo wrote:Show nested quote +On October 21 2011 09:09 Musiq wrote:
I believe Python is fine, it gives people the chance to use some oldschool strats such as 2rax fe, 2fact into 5fact timing or even 1 gate core for Protoss. Different maps call for different strategies, you can't rely on your cookie cutter build to work on all maps. ... Yeah except 2 fact sucks, and 2 rax FE sucks. They aren't old school because of the maps, they are old school because people have learned to defend against them and come out on top economically. If you 1 base as Protoss you are instantly behind against a Zerg that can defend against it, same goes for 2 rax and 2 fact. And the reasoning behind using python is so players can play standard on a map everyone knows. Otherwise the bad players are just gonna play REALLY bad, because they don't know what builds are suitable for what maps. Problem is builds that work on Python are not standard anymore. I bet most D- players use Forge FE, and they are going to use it on python and they are going to lose because of it. You are going to get a ton of Zergs making it through the early rounds. If I actually play, I might just switch to Zerg from Terran just for Python and just win with 2 hatch speedling muta all-ins. Fighting Spirit should really be the first map. EDIT: Realised I probably can't play the whole tourney, coz it will be 4 am and I have to leave for uni at about 7:30. T_T.
Man you are looking way too far into it. This is a D/D- casual tournament. Most players at the D/D- level don't exclusively play the latest maps and the latest builds that the pros do. I'm D+ and 2Gate is my favorite build. I hate FE and hardly ever do it anyway. People at our level don't understand how to take advantage of mistakes in builds or they'd be higher ranked because no one at our level executes a build perfectly.
That being said we're looking to add Circuit Breaker and Bloody Ridge in place of Tau and HBR to have a mix of old and new.
Wow, 4am, that would be awesome if you made it that early! Remember this tourney is a max of 6 games. I'm expecting it to only last 2-2.5 hrs so maybe you'll be safe.
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ICCUP name: jjDew
Rank: D
Race: Terran
gg gl
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ICCup name: sGs.Zero1159
Rank: D
Race: Terran
HFHF!!
<I didn't count the people... so if it's too late, i'm sorry>
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ban people who smurf this off TL imo. Also i wonder which account scan will be playing on this time
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ICCup name: sGs.Maltron
Rank: D
Race: Zerg
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iccup name: sGs.sheaR (or sheaR)
Rank:D
Race: Z
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When is the actual deadline for signing up? I'm not sure if I'll be able to make it.
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sGsRuscour
Rank: D
Race: Protoss
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On October 21 2011 10:48 duncan.mc wrote:Show nested quote +On October 21 2011 09:08 Thebbeuttiffulland wrote:
so much good players will create d/d- accounts just to have fun We're trying to eliminate this by making people sign up through their TL account. People generally know who's good on here and who's not. No ICCup ID will be able to play that's not written here in this thread and we can tie that ICCup ID to the TL ID. The best we can do if someone is lying about their rank here is just blacklist them from our future tournaments. Show nested quote +On October 21 2011 09:22 sluggaslamoo wrote:On October 21 2011 09:09 Musiq wrote:
I believe Python is fine, it gives people the chance to use some oldschool strats such as 2rax fe, 2fact into 5fact timing or even 1 gate core for Protoss. Different maps call for different strategies, you can't rely on your cookie cutter build to work on all maps. ... Yeah except 2 fact sucks, and 2 rax FE sucks. They aren't old school because of the maps, they are old school because people have learned to defend against them and come out on top economically. If you 1 base as Protoss you are instantly behind against a Zerg that can defend against it, same goes for 2 rax and 2 fact. And the reasoning behind using python is so players can play standard on a map everyone knows. Otherwise the bad players are just gonna play REALLY bad, because they don't know what builds are suitable for what maps. Problem is builds that work on Python are not standard anymore. I bet most D- players use Forge FE, and they are going to use it on python and they are going to lose because of it. You are going to get a ton of Zergs making it through the early rounds. If I actually play, I might just switch to Zerg from Terran just for Python and just win with 2 hatch speedling muta all-ins. Fighting Spirit should really be the first map. EDIT: Realised I probably can't play the whole tourney, coz it will be 4 am and I have to leave for uni at about 7:30. T_T. Man you are looking way too far into it. This is a D/D- casual tournament. Most players at the D/D- level don't exclusively play the latest maps and the latest builds that the pros do. I'm D+ and 2Gate is my favorite build. I hate FE and hardly ever do it anyway. People at our level don't understand how to take advantage of mistakes in builds or they'd be higher ranked because no one at our level executes a build perfectly. That being said we're looking to add Circuit Breaker and Bloody Ridge in place of Tau and HBR to have a mix of old and new. Wow, 4am, that would be awesome if you made it that early! Remember this tourney is a max of 6 games. I'm expecting it to only last 2-2.5 hrs so maybe you'll be safe.
I guess you have me convinced
I've actually gone from D- to D+ (highest points 2070) within the past couple of days, due to grinding a lot of games lately so I still have a really low win ratio. Up to you if you still want me in the tournament. I am happy to get up at 4am, I will need to get ready for uni at 7:30 though.
Here is my old profile for screening.
http://www.iccup.com/starcraft/gamingprofile/bm14cc.html
My new profile (joining sGs clan :D)
Name: sGs.SluGG
Rank: D
Race: TvP, TvZ, ZvT
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man, Tau Cross gets so little love... I actually like that map 
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ICCUP name: sGs.AiriSuzuki
Rank: D+(yeah right)/D/E-
Race: Terran
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I bet a Protoss wins this.
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ICCUP name: sGs.sega
Rank: D "to the minus" -
Race: Terran
and even if it's full I can still stream and/or cast if needed
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ICCUP name: Hyeon aka iCCup.Dayfly
Rank: Right now, D
Race : T
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Iccup: ReZuya
Rank: D
Race: Protoss, Zerg if ZvZ
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On October 21 2011 05:06 Nazza wrote:
Ewwww..... Python
I would play but i really don't like that map :S.
To further clarify, you have to play TvP differently because you can't secure third easily without going for a heavy midgame push of some sort.
TvZ you have a chance of getting a close air distance, which can be pretty bad for Terran.
On Python in TvP you take the mineral only as your 3rd. It's not hard to cover that area, and by taking that expansion it also gets a lot easier to protect against recalls. 2 base pushing is very effective on top of that. Python is one of the easiest maps to play TvP on, as long as you can defend early protoss aggression. It's very open, so vulture harass is pretty effective, and the short rush distance makes slow pushing a lot easier. The compact base layout also makes it really easy to defend against reavers.
On October 21 2011 01:28 DorF wrote:I'm gonna watch this, but D/D- games, it's gonna be hilarious and frustrating but mostly hilariously frustrating and in the off chance of a TvT I just might kill myself
2 base mass wraiths. (I hope)
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if were E can we also play?
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I would have loved to participate, but I'll be studying for midterms this weekend. Good luck you guys!
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Iccup name: Rew22
Rank: D
Race: Zerg
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OP has been updated with the list of entries so far and the new map pool. I'll be working out stream info later today when I get in touch with some of the interested casters.
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Fun initiative. I think I'm too good for this though (although I've never actually technically laddered to or above D+ for some reason) despite a huge break from BW. But I hope it turns out to be a fun event with no retard smurfs.
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On October 21 2011 01:16 duncan.mc wrote:Show nested quote +On October 21 2011 00:05 chaosTheory_14cc wrote:
ICCUP name: sGsChaosTheory
Rank: Max rank is C- but that was a loooooong time ago, and I have played so little recently I hardly think I'm even a D/D- player at the moment. Is that cool?
Race: Terran I would ask that you first play some games on ICCUP and see where you stack up. If you can get me a more definite feeling of where you are, that would be awesome.
Yeah, played about 15 games, and I'd definitely say I'm within the D/D- range at this point.
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So am I to good for this tourney?
So I will watch the stream and hope for some good games.
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On October 22 2011 00:53 Assault_1 wrote:
if were E can we also play?
Definitely, E rank can play if desired.
On October 22 2011 06:33 Kalk wrote:
So am I to good for this tourney?
So I will watch the stream and hope for some good games.
Sorry, man. I just skipped over your entry. I will add it in OP. Not saying you're definitely in yet but I do still need to review.
EDIT: I looked through your profiles (Kalkmeister is your other one?) and they look fine to me.
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Thank you!
On October 22 2011 06:47 duncan.mc wrote:
EDIT: I looked through your profiles (Kalkmeister is your other one?) and they look fine to me.
Yes thats right. There is another one: Doktor_Zerg.
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This should be fun to watch.
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ICCUP Name: Ribbon
Rank: D
Race: Brotoss
I hit D+ once in 2009, but it didn't last Anyone whose seen me play on Puppykiller's stream can confirm I'm legit D
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iCCup id: aokces
Rank: D (D+ on one occasion)
Race: Random (or zerg if I HAVE to choose)
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ICCUP name:SlayerS_T0sboy
Rank:D
Race: Protoss
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This is a great initiative, really fun for lower level players to actually participate in something! I also hope you will do the same for D+/C-!
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iccup name :sabas123
rank D/d-
race P
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Sickkk!
ID: SaiNT_TesLa
Max rank: D
Race: Random. ( but it's more reactionary. For example if he's Terran, I'll go zeros or Protoss. So it depends on the other person's race. )
Thanks! =]
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Well, since you already have 32 players (also, I don't feel like getting humiliated on a livestream ) I've decided that'd it'd be best for me to not participate in this event, thought it'd be great fun to watch.
I am also now extending my desire to help cast, if needed.
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D
R/Z(if I actually want to win games)
iCCup ID: Utra_Aymokriya
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@ duncan.mc
1900CET on 23rd? I thought it's 22nd(how stupid i am..) ;( then i should give up this tour. Sorry!
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C- huh...
Real cool man, real cool.
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ICCUP name: Catpaul
Rank: D
Race: Terran
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name sgs.iu
rank D-
race protoss
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OP was updated with some important notes for participants. Check it out if you've entered to play.
ALSO:
I'm still looking for a possible streamer. I've talked to a couple of interested casters and I think they have good voices and personalities and should do a good job. However, both of their streams could have possible quality issues. As a safety net, would someone be available as an observer to stream the event and control the camera? You wouldn't have to do any casting, and your stream would get some views on it! Haha, I'd love to do it but I need to be available for the players and keep the tourney running.
Thanks for any help!
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Alright. I can't make it and since it's a 16 man tournament, I don't want to take anybody's slot D: So remove me from the list if it works like that lol
Edit: Just noticed that it says 32 man tournament now ^^
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I could obs and stream with decent quality as soon as I get eliminated from the tournament (probably 1st round >.>), however I've never obsed for casting before and I probably suck at it, so add me as a last resort measure
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fabiano if you will i can join you casting when i get eliminated 2
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I saw 31 players in the OP, so I'm hoping I can make it in:
TLID: MrChupee
iccupID: MrChupee
Rank: D
Race: Terran
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On October 23 2011 12:29 fabiano wrote:I could obs and stream with decent quality as soon as I get eliminated from the tournament (probably 1st round >.>), however I've never obsed for casting before and I probably suck at it, so add me as a last resort measure
It's in 6 hours? how long will it go for? I may be able to stream/obs if necessary, but that involves me waking up at/staying up to 2am
However, I don't have VAC, so I guess someone can talk over skype. skype id is nazzabw.
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Ah damn it, I got up at 8:30 because I thought it started at 9. Ah well, I'm just eager!
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count me in yo!!
iccup name:ghostkiller
rank:rank D/D-
race:p
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Just to make sure its CEST 1900, I used the timezone converter and that says 4:00am Melbourne. But then nazza said 2am. So I'm not sure now. TL usually uses KST and GMT, I just need to confirm thanks.
So that's 2 hours from now?
EDIT: Ok I think i got it right, nvm.
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On October 23 2011 12:29 fabiano wrote:I could obs and stream with decent quality as soon as I get eliminated from the tournament (probably 1st round >.>), however I've never obsed for casting before and I probably suck at it, so add me as a last resort measure
You can always cast in portuguese and yell "GOLAÇO GOLAÇO" instead of "GG".
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On October 23 2011 23:55 Djagulingu wrote:Show nested quote +On October 23 2011 12:29 fabiano wrote:I could obs and stream with decent quality as soon as I get eliminated from the tournament (probably 1st round >.>), however I've never obsed for casting before and I probably suck at it, so add me as a last resort measure You can always cast in portuguese and yell "GOLAÇO GOLAÇO" instead of "GG".
rofl
But if I were to stream I wouldnt cast, just stream. My spoken english is rusty and my mic just doesn't work properly anyway, someone else would have to cast over it
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Tournament begins in 1hr 45min. I'm gonna go ahead and close entries from this point forward. Everyone above this post has a chance to be in.
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The tourney starts at 1 pm Est right? Also, how do you watch streams? Sorry for the newbie question
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On October 23 2011 23:44 sluggaslamoo wrote:
Just to make sure its CEST 1900, I used the timezone converter and that says 4:00am Melbourne. But then nazza said 2am. So I'm not sure now. TL usually uses KST and GMT, I just need to confirm thanks.
So that's 2 hours from now?
EDIT: Ok I think i got it right, nvm.
i can't count Q_Q
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On October 24 2011 00:19 Toasterbaked wrote:The tourney starts at 1 pm Est right? Also, how do you watch streams? Sorry for the newbie question
1 EST is correct. I'm updating with OP with the dedicated stream. It looks like there may be others popping up if certain people get eliminated, we'll handle those as they form.
Tourney starts in 1 hr from the time of this post.
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oh yeah, more tournaments D+ and C- please!!
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so is L_master unable to stream? I can stream abit if you guys need. Also, are we going to have several ppl playing at once for Ro32?
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On October 24 2011 01:16 Nazza wrote:
so is L_master unable to stream? I can stream abit if you guys need. Also, are we going to have several ppl playing at once for Ro32?
Several people will play at once. L_Master is able to stream. You can set up another stream as well. Do you plan to cast or do you need a caster?
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I might not make it 15 minutes before the tourney starts, but rather like 5-0 minutes early. Is that okay?
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CCUP name: zergh00k
Rank: D-
Race: Random
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TLlid: Polemos
ICCUP name: sGs.hero
Race: Probably Zerg
Rank: D-
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On October 24 2011 01:29 duncan.mc wrote:Show nested quote +On October 24 2011 01:16 Nazza wrote:
so is L_master unable to stream? I can stream abit if you guys need. Also, are we going to have several ppl playing at once for Ro32? Several people will play at once. L_Master is able to stream. You can set up another stream as well. Do you plan to cast or do you need a caster?
Depends if someone casts w/ me lol.
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so far we have play that is better than mine.
tournament success!!!!
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Nazza's stream (in OP) has a crazy game between Ribbon and Volfied right now.
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On October 24 2011 03:23 Ribbon wrote:Show nested quote +On October 24 2011 03:17 duncan.mc wrote:
Nazza's stream (in OP) has a crazy game between Ribbon and Volfied right now. It was a lot weirder on my side, because I kept having to alt-tab out of BW because of the fucking color issue. Oh well, at least it was entertaining. Can't wait to see the VOD Edit: Not to imply I would have won otherwise. Volfied had me beat
LOL dude that's rough. i hate alt tabbing and lagging.
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Awwww
tf?!?!?
I thought this was 7pm central.
I misread.
FUUUUUUUUUU...
good luck out there everyone!
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Fun fact, Circuit Breaker does not actually have island expos, thus explaining how zealots kept running into them.
This tournament is amazing. It's very Monday Fundayesque, and sGs is awesome for doing it.
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dammit.
Yea, I'm 100% down for the next one.
Ha, I even went out of my way to start things early today... C'est la vie.
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Finals about to start!!!!!!!!!1 bo3 starting with bloody ridge, PVP
intense!!!!
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Finals is going great!
We're down to the final game. It's tied 1-1 with sabas123 and Ecrilon. Ecrilon's DT's versus sabas123's reavers!
Last match starting soon!
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Thanks for this great tournament!!!!
Hope there will be another one soon.
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Congrats to Ecrilon!
Thanks for the fun tourney, be sure to hold more of these fun community events.
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Great tourney, thank you sGs.smile for the organization, and especially Hero for saving me in the Ro16 from a 4pool :D
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grats with your win esciption, but plz fix that CASTERS talk ingame!!!! thats absurt and maked me fail!!!! so plz fix this
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Thanks everyone. Great tournament sGs, though I admit it was nerve wracking.
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A guy making it to the finals with straight- out dt rushes pretty much sums up D/D- tourneys. It was one awesome tourney though.
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Thanks for running a tourney for D/D- players.
It was fun.
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On October 24 2011 05:34 Toasterbaked wrote:
A guy making it to the finals with straight- out dt rushes pretty much sums up D/D- tourneys. It was one awesome tourney though.
I take offense to that. I went DT-expand in the first game, and my opponent had obs. I didn't go DTs against either Terran, I won with normal Protoss play. I went DT expand in every final match. In every game my opponent went obs first into Reaver, which you will note generally does fine against DT expands. I really don't feel that this reaction, which essentially tells me my wins are based on my choice of strategy alone, is warranted.
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Great tournament everyone! I have a few closing comments:
First, thanks to all the participants who came out and had fun. I definitely enjoyed watching you guys. Congrats to Ecrilon for the win and to sabas123 for his great run to the finals. We hope to see y'all next time!
Secondly, thanks to the casters and streamers - L_Master, TheNessman, and Nazza - y'all were imperative for making this a success 'cause you let us all watch and enjoy the games together.
Also, big shoutout to Sayle and the organizers of the GosuCup. I didn't realize the GC started this Sunday or a I wouldn't have scheduled at the same time. I will definitely be more aware of that in the future (I had to have y'alls stream open at the same time to watch both).
Lastly, as this was the first tournament we held, there were definitely growing pains. There were moments of clear unprofessionalism and they will be addressed for future tournaments. This includes absolutely NO chatting in game by any observers, and having /dnd on for the participants. It was something that should've been included in the rules, but wasn't. That falls on me as the organizer and I apologize for that.
All in all, I think it went well and it's definitely something we can build on. Be sure to give me any feedback you have about the tourney as I want to take it into consideration for future D/D- tourneys or D+/C- tourneys.
Thanks for watching!
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Also, If anybody played games and wants them casted for fun or whatever I'd be more than happy to do so if you submit me the replay, as it gives me a little chance to play around with my casting.
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Congrats...I slept through it by accident. TT
I love the idea, though..and hope more will happen in the future.
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Are there going to be replay packs of this tournaments?
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On October 24 2011 12:09 00Zarathustra wrote:
Are there going to be replay packs of this tournaments?
Hey Cocky,
I didn't collect any but I can see about rounding them up.
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Thanks for the tourney, it was quite well managed for a first.
Next time I hope its like 4-6 hours earlier, by the last game I was so sleepy I couldn't keep my eyes open xD.
That would be midday CEST time, but at least not 4 am on a school day for us aussies/asian players
Hopefully no more python, and the addition of a losers bracket, plus Bo3 for semis, Bo5 for finals (Bo3 for 3rd place i dunno). Maybe?
Thanks again
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On October 24 2011 05:33 Ecrilon wrote:
Thanks everyone. Great tournament sGs, though I admit it was nerve wracking.
!!!!!! GJ ECRILON
Dude the whole time i was like "props for sticking to your build"
and you showed us that you can overcome whatever BO advantage sabas tried to pull on you
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Congratulations to the winner.
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Congrats to everyone and hopefully there will be more of these in the future.
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Congrats to Ecrilon for winning that thing. Thanks to Smile for organizing such an awesome tourney and to the casters/streamers!
Hope there will be moar!
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On October 24 2011 12:26 sluggaslamoo wrote:Thanks for the tourney, it was quite well managed for a first. Next time I hope its like 4-6 hours earlier, by the last game I was so sleepy I couldn't keep my eyes open xD. That would be midday CEST time, but at least not 4 am on a school day for us aussies/asian players Hopefully no more python, and the addition of a losers bracket, plus Bo3 for semis, Bo5 for finals (Bo3 for 3rd place i dunno). Maybe? Thanks again
Either this or a few hours later. My sleep patterns are officially borked lol.
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From what I see the tournament is quite a success
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Will there be vods of the casts?
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will there be another tournament !?
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i want to make 2 comments on the tournement
1) get a better map poolX_X (remove python and plz do hbr istea dof br)
2) plz ban hero for the next tour he was
1:constanly trying to get in the game (let me host plz, i can host ect (with knowing i could myself)
2:there was lagg in the game and i set the game on extra high lat, yust afther it was ok he told us *INGAME* "was it me??" and was telling is the CAUSE *INGAME* "i was tabbing between games should i leave" note that he was telling the *CAUSE*!!!!
3:he was giving *SHOUT OUT'S* and again *IN THE FINAL GAME* it disturped my macro and micro and raised my nerves.
i asked him in EVERY CASE to says (and in my 2e game of the finals (plz corret me if im wrong) ALLYCHAT!!!! (not in the allychat so agian distrubing me)
this IS PROFESSIONAL. i think should be clear for all of you.
note i WAS on DND.
it was a fun tour but sadly enough i did needed to make this post.
my regard's sabas123
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On October 24 2011 20:25 Kalk wrote:
Will there be vods of the casts?
They should be on my stream. twitch.tv/l_master
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Cool tourney and I'm glad it went off well. Next time let D+ players play so I can join in! >:[
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On October 25 2011 00:21 L_Master wrote:
They should be on my stream. twitch.tv/l_master
Thanks, found it. Watched my first game (which I won) and really like your cast.
Edit: Now I watched my second one (which i lost) and love your cast.
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This was awsm guys
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On October 25 2011 00:21 L_Master wrote:They should be on my stream. twitch.tv/l_master
any plans to put the vods on youtube?
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On October 25 2011 10:41 soujiro_ wrote:Show nested quote +On October 25 2011 00:21 L_Master wrote:On October 24 2011 20:25 Kalk wrote:
Will there be vods of the casts? They should be on my stream. twitch.tv/l_master any plans to put the vods on youtube?
Hmm, don't see why I couldn't. I'll look into that sometime this week/weekend when I have a chance.
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On October 25 2011 11:03 L_Master wrote:Show nested quote +On October 25 2011 10:41 soujiro_ wrote:On October 25 2011 00:21 L_Master wrote:On October 24 2011 20:25 Kalk wrote:
Will there be vods of the casts? They should be on my stream. twitch.tv/l_master any plans to put the vods on youtube? Hmm, don't see why I couldn't. I'll look into that sometime this week/weekend when I have a chance.
PLEASE!!!! It's much easier to watch on youtube.
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Wow, happy that people want vods
if anyone wants me to cast anything, just ask (especially you lmaster )
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Some feedback:
1) Make the brackets sooner. Also post in BIG RED LETTERS that the tournament rego has been closed in the op. There were a couple of people that signed up in the last 15 mins.
2) Organize a few people to make games.
3) Players shouldn't chat in game, except for maybe gl hf at the beginning. You guys were so confused when sega laid mines in the mineral only and sabas was like "Oh thanks, didn't know about that min only 3rd". A really big "ZOMG ARE U STREAM HACKING/CHEATING/WTF IS GOING ON MOMENT".
4) That being said, I don't think ppl actually play on grand line . At least I don't know it that well.
s'ok guys, mistakes happen.
Dunno if I should upload the VODs on my side. The obs'ing was ok, but the "casting" was probably lolsworthy.
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On October 27 2011 09:02 Nazza wrote:Some feedback: 1) Make the brackets sooner. Also post in BIG RED LETTERS that the tournament rego has been closed in the op. There were a couple of people that signed up in the last 15 mins. 2) Organize a few people to make games. 3) Players shouldn't chat in game, except for maybe gl hf at the beginning. You guys were so confused when sega laid mines in the mineral only and sabas was like "Oh thanks, didn't know about that min only 3rd". A really big "ZOMG ARE U STREAM HACKING/CHEATING/WTF IS GOING ON MOMENT". 4) That being said, I don't think ppl actually play on grand line . At least I don't know it that well. s'ok guys, mistakes happen. Dunno if I should upload the VODs on my side. The obs'ing was ok, but the "casting" was probably lolsworthy.
Thanks for the feedback, Nazza! I really appreciate it!
1) I can't make the brackets until people check in, so I'll move up check-in to begin an hour before and have it end 15min before tourney start time. I'm also looking into tourney bracket sites that may be able to let people check in themselves with a specific code that I can give them. If it was a unique code for each player that would be perfect. If I find something better that would streamline the process.
2) I agree. 2-3 people would be fine. All they'd have to do is create the game, start it, then leave at the beginning. That's what I did and I was able to create multiple games for people each round.
3) I'm still thinking this one over. I really don't wanna get all KeSPA on this tournament so I'm gonna shy away from saying players can't chat. For sure observers and casters won't be able to chat though. Still thinking this over.
4) No one likes the new maps cause no one's played them, and no one likes the old maps cause they're not "standard". I'd love to put map choice up to someone else, haha. I just play FS, Python, and Circuit Breaker online. I don't know shit about maps and don't care, lol.
I appreciate you obsing and casting last weekend!
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congrats to ecrilon! winning any tournament is a hard fucking job. I hope to have that feeling one day
gg!
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On October 24 2011 22:22 sabas123 wrote:
i want to make 2 comments on the tournement
1) get a better map poolX_X (remove python and plz do hbr istea dof br)
2) plz ban hero for the next tour he was
1:constanly trying to get in the game (let me host plz, i can host ect (with knowing i could myself)
2:there was lagg in the game and i set the game on extra high lat, yust afther it was ok he told us *INGAME* "was it me??" and was telling is the CAUSE *INGAME* "i was tabbing between games should i leave" note that he was telling the *CAUSE*!!!!
3:he was giving *SHOUT OUT'S* and again *IN THE FINAL GAME* it disturped my macro and micro and raised my nerves.
i asked him in EVERY CASE to says (and in my 2e game of the finals (plz corret me if im wrong) ALLYCHAT!!!! (not in the allychat so agian distrubing me)
this IS PROFESSIONAL. i think should be clear for all of you.
note i WAS on DND.
it was a fun tour but sadly enough i did needed to make this post.
my regard's sabas123
I might agree with banning Hero (he wrote that I was going 4 pool on all chat in my game and we had to remake it). And can you also please ban random for the next tour?
Other than that, Bloody Ridge is much better than HBR. And banning Python and bringing HBR in the map pools seems less than reasonable to me.
On October 24 2011 05:26 aokces wrote:
Great tourney, thank you sGs.smile for the organization, and especially Hero for saving me in the Ro16 from a 4pool :D
He's fucking right, Hero, thanks for revealing my strategy in all chat!!!
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ICCUP name: Jedclark
Rank: D-
Race: Protoss
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On October 28 2011 22:52 Jedclark wrote:
ICCUP name: Jedclark
Rank: D-
Race: Protoss
fashionably late for the party, huh? No, seriously, did I miss something?
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On October 28 2011 22:52 Jedclark wrote:
ICCUP name: Jedclark
Rank: D-
Race: Protoss
^^
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On October 29 2011 00:04 bitter[KALT] wrote:Show nested quote +On October 28 2011 22:52 Jedclark wrote:
ICCUP name: Jedclark
Rank: D-
Race: Protoss fashionably late for the party, huh? No, seriously, did I miss something?
No, your not. It happened last weekend. Will probably be another soon so keep your eyes peeled.
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djagulingu why do you think we should ban random? i think its a very legit strat at d level
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On October 29 2011 04:53 TheNessman wrote:
djagulingu why do you think we should ban random? i think its a very legit strat at d level
Yea seriously.
F that, random is fine.
The only reason someone dislikes random is they want to have a basic opener to go with. Just scout on 8 or earlier and play from there. The other player is at a disadvantage himself by choosing random.
It's not easy and it's even made worse by trying to practice as random. For every 2 games I play, I get banned from another 10!
<3 Random
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I dislike random because it means I can't forge FFE in PvZ, which is completely obnoxious. I despise one base PvZ.
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Random can be downright abusive, especially ZvP, ZvT and TvP. RandomZvP have been discussed many times. In RandomZvT, you can go for a blind hydra rush that is very hard to deal with with a mech build. You could also do a defensive sunken/hydra build for a economic lead. In RandomTvP, terran can wall-in and take a easy economic and tech lead, if he goes 2 gate zeal that is, but it's quite risky not to.
I get it if someone is laddering as random because he doesn't want to commit to a specific race, but sticking to one race, or race/map picking should maximize your level of play, so it doesn't make sense to play random in a tournament, unless you admit that there are advantages.
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Meh I only played one random in this tourney, and apparently he cheesed every game. I managed to beat him but it was a very frustrating game for me. I countered by playing Random myself, because I hadn't picked XvR.
It still was more or less a coin-flip where I 2-gated in my main against his 9 pool 1 hatch lurker. If he had gone for a macro opening I would have lost easily, but I had the metagame advantage.
I'm more or less a random player, I've played every race with roughly equal distribution, but I choose my matchups (eg was TvZ TvP ZvT) depending on the layout of the tournament just to be fair. Ill probably stick with Terran for a while now though see how I go.
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On October 29 2011 04:53 TheNessman wrote:
djagulingu why do you think we should ban random? i think its a very legit strat at d level
Because at D/D- level, it's difficult enough to play even when you know the opponent's race, let alone playing against random.
On October 29 2011 05:00 TheGlassface wrote:Show nested quote +On October 29 2011 04:53 TheNessman wrote:
djagulingu why do you think we should ban random? i think its a very legit strat at d level Yea seriously. F that, random is fine. The only reason someone dislikes random is they want to have a basic opener to go with. Just scout on 8 or earlier and play from there. The other player is at a disadvantage himself by choosing random. It's not easy and it's even made worse by trying to practice as random. For every 2 games I play, I get banned from another 10! <3 Random
It's not like we D/D- guys do practice as/against random in a regular basis and playing random is never a handicap when each of your 3 races is worse than 2 others.
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I might recast some of the games that I have replays for, since there was some beeping noise in the background and my casting sucked lol.
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