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Seraphic
Profile Joined September 2010
United States3849 Posts
July 29 2011 11:49 GMT
#601
that was completely maps fault. I don't see how Hydra played any better just abusing the crap out of the map when Stork has so little options to deal with it all.

This is exactly the reason WHY we need MSL.
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Wala.Revolution
Profile Blog Joined November 2006
7583 Posts
July 29 2011 11:49 GMT
#602
On July 29 2011 20:48 TheOnly92 wrote:
I don't understand, Stork doesn't prepare for games at all? He couldn't even anticipate this and come up with a better build? Wait, he has been dying to Zergs with this build recently, does he even look into his previous games regarding why he lost?


I hope you're being sarcastic, and that I'm not detecting it because I'm too tired.
Stuck.
Spica
Profile Joined December 2010
United States5582 Posts
July 29 2011 11:50 GMT
#603
On July 29 2011 20:47 Seraphic wrote:
Hydra, I will forever hate you guts regardless of your damn eye condition.

OSL is doing it's best to make it full of Zergs again.

? I'd blame the map instead of Hydra, but doubt you'd want to do that.
How to pronounce the name: "SPY-ka" | Proud to share the same birthday with Shin (神) Dong Won and the almighty BoxeR | 리쌍도 나무에서 떨어진다. | To YellOw: "2位じゃダメなんですか?" ㅋㅋㅋ | Rest in peace, Violet. 08/23/12
gngfn
Profile Joined January 2009
United States1726 Posts
July 29 2011 11:50 GMT
#604
At this point just bring back the original Byzantium. Think of it as affirmative action for Protoss.
moopie
Profile Joined July 2009
12605 Posts
July 29 2011 11:50 GMT
#605
On July 29 2011 20:48 TheOnly92 wrote:
I don't understand, Stork doesn't prepare for games at all? He couldn't even anticipate this and come up with a better build? Wait, he has been dying to Zergs with this build recently, does he even look into his previous games regarding why he lost?


The answer is no.
I'm going to sleep, let me get some of that carpet.
Wala.Revolution
Profile Blog Joined November 2006
7583 Posts
July 29 2011 11:50 GMT
#606
Screw Pathfinder.
Stuck.
Sinedd
Profile Joined July 2008
Poland7052 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-07-29 11:51:30
July 29 2011 11:50 GMT
#607
On July 29 2011 20:49 Seraphic wrote:
that was completely maps fault. I don't see how Hydra played any better just abusing the crap out of the map when Stork has so little options to deal with it all.

This is exactly the reason WHY we need MSL.

OSL is hatin on protoss lately

dunno why

when was the last time Protoss player won the Starleague ?

like 2008 or something ?

maybe early 2009 ?
T H C makes ppl happy
tenacity
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
1587 Posts
July 29 2011 11:50 GMT
#608
Even though many blame Hydra for having abused the map, he really impressed me with his play. His multi-tasking is so sick. Finally, I've become his fan ^^
It does not need to be fun to be fun.
ShadeR
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
Australia7535 Posts
July 29 2011 11:51 GMT
#609
On July 29 2011 20:48 TheOnly92 wrote:
I don't understand, Stork doesn't prepare for games at all? He couldn't even anticipate this and come up with a better build? Wait, he has been dying to Zergs with this build recently, does he even look into his previous games regarding why he lost?

His reaver opening may have held 3 hatch hydra...but really this map where you can perform 3cm drop into main in 3 different location... Bisu may not have held...
endy
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
Switzerland8970 Posts
July 29 2011 11:51 GMT
#610
On July 29 2011 20:48 TheOnly92 wrote:
I don't understand, Stork doesn't prepare for games at all? He couldn't even anticipate this and come up with a better build? Wait, he has been dying to Zergs with this build recently, does he even look into his previous games regarding why he lost?


I don't think there is a proper build to defend this with such a short air distance.
Maybe a low eco very fast dt corsair....
ॐ
Motivate
Profile Joined June 2011
2860 Posts
July 29 2011 11:51 GMT
#611
On July 29 2011 20:50 Sinedd wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 29 2011 20:49 Seraphic wrote:
that was completely maps fault. I don't see how Hydra played any better just abusing the crap out of the map when Stork has so little options to deal with it all.

This is exactly the reason WHY we need MSL.

OSL is hatin on protoss lately

dunno why

when was the last time Protoss player won the Starleague ?

like 2008 or something ?

maybe early 2009 ?

last win was stork's 2008 win over fantasy

zerg owning ^^
nitdkim
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
1264 Posts
July 29 2011 11:52 GMT
#612
I wished to see a stork vs ___ finals but oh well.
PM me if you want random korean images translated.
kdgns
Profile Joined May 2009
United States2427 Posts
July 29 2011 11:52 GMT
#613
On July 29 2011 20:49 Wala.Revolution wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 29 2011 20:48 TheOnly92 wrote:
I don't understand, Stork doesn't prepare for games at all? He couldn't even anticipate this and come up with a better build? Wait, he has been dying to Zergs with this build recently, does he even look into his previous games regarding why he lost?


I hope you're being sarcastic, and that I'm not detecting it because I'm too tired.


Stork probably wasn't in top gear for this game though, I believe he had to go to a funeral recently which definitely affected his prep time and mental state
VGhost
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States3616 Posts
July 29 2011 11:54 GMT
#614
On July 29 2011 20:48 TheOnly92 wrote:
I don't understand, Stork doesn't prepare for games at all? He couldn't even anticipate this and come up with a better build? Wait, he has been dying to Zergs with this build recently, does he even look into his previous games regarding why he lost?


This is kind of unfair to Stork. Compared to his MSL game yesterday, he:

- did get cannons in time
- did build units and get reavers out in time
- did build cannons in his main to prep for the muta switch

But you can't scout slow drop almost until it happens, which wouldn't have been a big problem except that the air distance on Pathfinder is &^*&% short. I mean, if he was anticipating this a 2-gate or 1-gate tech instead of FFE might have been better, but those aren't surefire wins either: there's a reason all Protoss go FFE these days. 2-gate can be rebuffed by good sim-city, scouting, and lings without too much trouble by a good Z (which Hydra is); 1-gate tech leaves gets your 2nd gas up later, means later tech units, etc. (at least that's how I understand it, I could be wrong on the details).
#4427 || I am not going to scan a ferret.
Baddieko
Profile Joined October 2008
Singapore855 Posts
July 29 2011 11:54 GMT
#615
with reavers u can't even stop hydras because of dodgy scarabs. Using templar tech u need many templars and storm is not guranteed to fully hit hydras.
TheKefka
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
Croatia11752 Posts
July 29 2011 11:55 GMT
#616
Nana why do you always force me to mute your stream in between matches>_<
Cackle™
Elyvilon
Profile Joined August 2008
United States13143 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-07-29 11:55:41
July 29 2011 11:55 GMT
#617
On July 29 2011 20:50 tenacity wrote:
Even though many blame Hydra for having abused the map, he really impressed me with his play. His multi-tasking is so sick. Finally, I've become his fan ^^

I don't think it's so much "blaming Hydra for abusing the map" as it is "Blaming the mapmakers for making a map which can be abused so hard".
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Seraphic
Profile Joined September 2010
United States3849 Posts
July 29 2011 11:55 GMT
#618
On July 29 2011 20:50 Spica wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 29 2011 20:47 Seraphic wrote:
Hydra, I will forever hate you guts regardless of your damn eye condition.

OSL is doing it's best to make it full of Zergs again.

? I'd blame the map instead of Hydra, but doubt you'd want to do that.


I'm just finding something to blame at the moment. -.-
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VGhost
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States3616 Posts
July 29 2011 11:55 GMT
#619
On July 29 2011 20:51 ShadeR wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 29 2011 20:48 TheOnly92 wrote:
I don't understand, Stork doesn't prepare for games at all? He couldn't even anticipate this and come up with a better build? Wait, he has been dying to Zergs with this build recently, does he even look into his previous games regarding why he lost?

His reaver opening may have held 3 hatch hydra...but really this map where you can perform 3cm drop into main in 3 different location... Bisu may not have held...


Bisu lost his only game on this map, to Shine (because of course he did).
#4427 || I am not going to scan a ferret.
TheOnly92
Profile Joined September 2010
Malaysia804 Posts
July 29 2011 11:55 GMT
#620
Instead of being passive and doing FE, he could've just cheese like proxy gates or something, take the initiative instead of getting controlled... A player as good as he is (I saw the matches yesterday his micro is top notch) can just cheese and win.
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