On July 29 2011 20:49 Seraphic wrote: that was completely maps fault. I don't see how Hydra played any better just abusing the crap out of the map when Stork has so little options to deal with it all.
This is exactly the reason WHY we need MSL.
that doesn't do anythign
the last two MSLs had 7/8 Zergs in the Semi finals. And the one Non-Zerg was Flash because he is OP. Their map pool is as Zerg favored as it gets.
On July 29 2011 20:49 Seraphic wrote: that was completely maps fault. I don't see how Hydra played any better just abusing the crap out of the map when Stork has so little options to deal with it all.
This is exactly the reason WHY we need MSL.
OSL is hatin on protoss lately
dunno why
when was the last time Protoss player won the Starleague ?
On July 29 2011 20:50 tenacity wrote: Even though many blame Hydra for having abused the map, he really impressed me with his play. His multi-tasking is so sick. Finally, I've become his fan ^^
I don't think it's so much "blaming Hydra for abusing the map" as it is "Blaming the mapmakers for making a map which can be abused so hard".
The blame lies with the tournament organisers who pick these maps when there's sufficient evidence that it favour one race over the other.
the map is horrible. zerg can basically hydra break anywhere. not even hydra break. you don't need to break anything. just decide where to put your hydras and put them there.
On July 29 2011 20:54 Baddieko wrote: with reavers u can't even stop hydras because of dodgy scarabs. Using templar tech u need many templars and storm is not guranteed to fully hit hydras.
Scarabs over open ground were just find, the only duds were when Stork went joy-riding drone-killing and had to navigate around minerals, buildings, etc.
On July 29 2011 20:49 Seraphic wrote: that was completely maps fault. I don't see how Hydra played any better just abusing the crap out of the map when Stork has so little options to deal with it all.
This is exactly the reason WHY we need MSL.
OSL is hatin on protoss lately
dunno why
when was the last time Protoss player won the Starleague ?
like 2008 or something ?
maybe early 2009 ?
Protoss have had enough chances to win more since then though, but they always fell short: Movie came really well prepared for the Ever 2009 OSL finals but got outplayed, Stork got out prepared in the Bacchus 2010 finals, Kal, Free and Pure simply got outplayed in their Ro4 appearances. Those were more shortcomings of the players than racial imbalance
On July 29 2011 20:49 Seraphic wrote: that was completely maps fault. I don't see how Hydra played any better just abusing the crap out of the map when Stork has so little options to deal with it all.
This is exactly the reason WHY we need MSL.
that doesn't do anythign
the last two MSLs had 7/8 Zergs in the Semi finals. And the one Non-Zerg was Flash because he is OP. Their map pool is as Zerg favored as it gets.
Every map was T>Z in the last MSL and Monte Cristo is bad vs P as well. So it's not even even.
On July 29 2011 20:49 Seraphic wrote: that was completely maps fault. I don't see how Hydra played any better just abusing the crap out of the map when Stork has so little options to deal with it all.
This is exactly the reason WHY we need MSL.
OSL is hatin on protoss lately
dunno why
when was the last time Protoss player won the Starleague ?
like 2008 or something ?
maybe early 2009 ?
Protoss have had enough chances to win more since then though, but they always fell short: Movie came really well prepared for the Ever 2009 OSL finals but got outplayed, Stork got out prepared in the Bacchus 2010 finals, Kal, Free and Pure simply got outplayed in their Ro4 appearances. Those were more shortcomings of the players than racial imbalance
I didnt said that it was some kind of imbalance
just that after the era of dragons, protoss aint doing well in individual leagues
dunno why is that
and i remember Movie vs Flash finals, Movie was astonishing, he had bad luck getting to play Flash the unstoppable robot in the finals.
On July 29 2011 20:49 Seraphic wrote: that was completely maps fault. I don't see how Hydra played any better just abusing the crap out of the map when Stork has so little options to deal with it all.
This is exactly the reason WHY we need MSL.
OSL is hatin on protoss lately
dunno why
when was the last time Protoss player won the Starleague ?
like 2008 or something ?
maybe early 2009 ?
Protoss have had enough chances to win more since then though, but they always fell short: Movie came really well prepared for the Ever 2009 OSL finals but got outplayed, Stork got out prepared in the Bacchus 2010 finals, Kal, Free and Pure simply got outplayed in their Ro4 appearances. Those were more shortcomings of the players than racial imbalance
I didnt said that it was some kind of imbalance
just that after the era of dragons, protoss aint doing well in individual leagues
dunno why is that
I bet because protoss prepare to only play games, not to win the opponent...
On July 29 2011 20:55 TheOnly92 wrote: Instead of being passive and doing FE, he could've just cheese like proxy gates or something, take the initiative instead of getting controlled... A player as good as he is (I saw the matches yesterday his micro is top notch) can just cheese and win.
Yeah, do this or do a manly 1gate.
I guess his practise partners aren't quite as good at being abusive as Hydra :3
On July 29 2011 20:55 TheOnly92 wrote: Instead of being passive and doing FE, he could've just cheese like proxy gates or something, take the initiative instead of getting controlled... A player as good as he is (I saw the matches yesterday his micro is top notch) can just cheese and win.