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deafhobbit
United States828 Posts
Seriously though, this was a hard series for me. I like both teams, but i had to weigh my greater fanboism for KT against my belief that Woonjin stood a better chance against the bastards in SKT. Overall, I'm glad KT won, and that Stats broke his long-ass PvZ losing streak, but I'm still worried that SKT might come out on top. Here's hoping whoever wins CJ v KT goes on to win it all! | ||
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sinistral
Singapore859 Posts
On July 19 2011 21:14 Kipsate wrote: Effort can't play till next season. Only thing I am somewhat worried about is that CJ's strength relies on the Protoss and KT has several ZvP snipers, or people who can just hydrabust ^^. Provided CJ's coach plays his cards right. Horang2 faces any KT protosses. Skyhigh faces any KT terrans(yes, even Flash). Hydra faces any KT zergs. That's 3 wins and Ace game in-hand already. | ||
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doothegee
Korea (South)3011 Posts
On July 19 2011 21:16 reincremate wrote: Excuse my fanboyism, but I think that despite their recent performance, CJ is still a team mostly made up of one-matchup snipers who are inconsistent in their other match-ups. If all the snipers get their favoured MUs, I predict a close match, but if not, then KT will probably roll them. No one on CJ can take Flash in an ace match except maybe Snow--but even then Flash is obviously favoured. It really just depends on the map. Skyhigh beat Flash on Fortress before (although he hasn't been doing well lately) and Hydra beat Flash on Icarus. Movie and Horang2 could probably give Flash a run for his money on Bloody Ridge, and Leta might have something else up his sleeve. I would say CJ would be far more of a nightmare to prepare against than Woongjin. | ||
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Holgerius
Sweden16951 Posts
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Armathai
1023 Posts
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doothegee
Korea (South)3011 Posts
On July 19 2011 21:18 Holgerius wrote: CJ will definitely be a tough nut to crack, but by no means impossible. Flash will win his games so they only need two other wins, and as some people have mentioned CJ is quite P heavy, which is great for KT. I don't think any of KT's Zergs (maybe aside from Hoejja) is going to beat Horang2, and I don't think any of them have even a remote chance against Movie. | ||
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Ikonn
Netherlands1958 Posts
On July 19 2011 21:17 sinistral wrote: Provided CJ's coach plays his cards right. Horang2 faces any KT protosses. Skyhigh faces any KT terrans(yes, even Flash). Hydra faces any KT zergs. That's 3 wins and Ace game in-hand already. Skyhigh hasn't been that impressive in TvT at all this season and I definitely wouldn't call him favorite against Flash by any means | ||
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Zyferous
United States270 Posts
On July 19 2011 21:19 doothegee wrote: I don't think any of KT's Zergs (maybe aside from Hoejja) is going to beat Horang2, and I don't think any of them have even a remote chance against Movie. Not only that but the there's the omnipresent threat of Hydra roflstomping any zergs that KT has to throw out there, so the KT coaches have to be careful of that. | ||
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KTF_CloaK
Netherlands1338 Posts
On July 19 2011 21:19 doothegee wrote: I don't think any of KT's Zergs (maybe aside from Hoejja) is going to beat Horang2, and I don't think any of them have even a remote chance against Movie. Movie's vZ hasnt been as good as it used to be, and if Axtion plays him on Icarus he has a good chance (remember action vs bisu on icarus? pwned) and skyhigh can't TvT for shit anymore so I say we can take it in 3 days ^^ | ||
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krndandaman
Mozambique16569 Posts
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doothegee
Korea (South)3011 Posts
On July 19 2011 21:22 KTF_CloaK wrote: Movie's vZ hasnt been as good as it used to be, and if Axtion plays him on Icarus he has a good chance (remember action vs bisu on icarus? pwned) and skyhigh can't TvT for shit anymore so I say we can take it in 3 days ^^ http://www.teamliquid.net/tlpd/details.php?section=korean&type=players&id=564&part=games&vs=Z&league=standard&map=any&from_year=2011&from_month=2&from_day=25&to_year=2011&to_month=6&to_day=30&action=Update Wait what CJ has been known for putting out great lineups (albeit that was under Coach Cho) so we'll see how it works out. | ||
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Iplaythings
Denmark9110 Posts
On July 19 2011 21:16 Ryo wrote: Seriously, it's only Hoejja who's really playing well. Stats' play were chrisp as hell, roo wasnt that good and should be able to upset a CJ toss, barracks is gonna be cannon fodder though, though CH might get to ZvP oO On July 19 2011 21:22 krndandaman wrote: look at it the other way around! Skyhigh - dies to anything non TvT Movie - just avoid his PvZ and you have a good chance of winning Hydra - just avoid ZvZ and ZvP Snow - just send a zerg vs him Leta - send a protoss Horang2- send a terran or zerg but this guy has been hot lately Hydra and leta doesnt have a weak matchup, they have a "weaker" matchup | ||
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sixfour
England11061 Posts
On July 19 2011 21:22 krndandaman wrote: Horang2- send a terran or zerg but this guy has been hot lately nice ninja edit and he's fine vZ | ||
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doothegee
Korea (South)3011 Posts
On July 19 2011 21:22 krndandaman wrote: look at it the other way around! Skyhigh - dies to anything non TvT Movie - just avoid his PvZ and you have a good chance of winning Hydra - just avoid ZvZ and ZvP Snow - just send a zerg vs him Leta - send a protoss Horang2- send a zerg Hydra vs Flash Movie vs Stats/Barracks Horang2 vs Hoejja Leta vs Tempest Snow vs Action Skyhigh vs Perfective And this is the best case scenario. I don't think KT has much of a chance. Then again, I said that before this series. | ||
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J1.au
Australia3596 Posts
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krndandaman
Mozambique16569 Posts
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Ryo
8787 Posts
On July 19 2011 21:24 Iplaythings wrote: Stats' play were chrisp as hell, roo wasnt that good and should be able to upset a CJ toss, barracks is gonna be cannon fodder though, though CH might get to ZvP oO No I meant among the KT zergs, in reference to the "ZvP snipers" comment. | ||
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Iplaythings
Denmark9110 Posts
On July 19 2011 21:25 Ryo wrote: No I meant among the KT zergs, in reference to the "ZvP snipers" comment. Oh I see, that makes sense too =D | ||
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doothegee
Korea (South)3011 Posts
On July 19 2011 21:25 krndandaman wrote: thats kind of deceptive seeing how nobody there is known for being good at zvp except zero and some players on that list are just bad You might as well be describing KT zergs. He doesn't have to beat Jaedong here. | ||
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Sawamura
Malaysia7602 Posts
On July 19 2011 21:24 J1.au wrote: There is only one player on CJ capable of taking on Flash in the ace match, and KeSPA won't let him play. SKT here we come. MA JE YONGGGGG T_T !!!!! | ||
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