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deafhobbit
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
United States828 Posts
July 19 2011 12:17 GMT
#1541
lol Free vZ

Seriously though, this was a hard series for me. I like both teams, but i had to weigh my greater fanboism for KT against my belief that Woonjin stood a better chance against the bastards in SKT. Overall, I'm glad KT won, and that Stats broke his long-ass PvZ losing streak, but I'm still worried that SKT might come out on top.

Here's hoping whoever wins CJ v KT goes on to win it all!
I cheer for underdogs and Flash
sinistral
Profile Joined October 2010
Singapore859 Posts
July 19 2011 12:17 GMT
#1542
On July 19 2011 21:14 Kipsate wrote:
Effort can't play till next season.

Only thing I am somewhat worried about is that CJ's strength relies on the Protoss and KT has several ZvP snipers, or people who can just hydrabust ^^.


Provided CJ's coach plays his cards right.

Horang2 faces any KT protosses.
Skyhigh faces any KT terrans(yes, even Flash).
Hydra faces any KT zergs.

That's 3 wins and Ace game in-hand already.
(´・ω・`)
doothegee
Profile Joined December 2009
Korea (South)3011 Posts
July 19 2011 12:18 GMT
#1543
On July 19 2011 21:16 reincremate wrote:
Excuse my fanboyism, but I think that despite their recent performance, CJ is still a team mostly made up of one-matchup snipers who are inconsistent in their other match-ups. If all the snipers get their favoured MUs, I predict a close match, but if not, then KT will probably roll them. No one on CJ can take Flash in an ace match except maybe Snow--but even then Flash is obviously favoured.

It really just depends on the map. Skyhigh beat Flash on Fortress before (although he hasn't been doing well lately) and Hydra beat Flash on Icarus. Movie and Horang2 could probably give Flash a run for his money on Bloody Ridge, and Leta might have something else up his sleeve. I would say CJ would be far more of a nightmare to prepare against than Woongjin.
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Holgerius
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
Sweden16951 Posts
July 19 2011 12:18 GMT
#1544
CJ will definitely be a tough nut to crack, but by no means impossible. Flash will win his games so they only need two other wins, and as some people have mentioned CJ is quite P heavy, which is great for KT.
I believe in the almighty Grötslev! -- I am never serious and you should never believe a thing I say. Including the previous sentence.
Armathai
Profile Joined October 2007
1023 Posts
July 19 2011 12:19 GMT
#1545
Thanks for Streaming Nani, it was great!

Looking for ArcticCerebrate formerly from @USEast
doothegee
Profile Joined December 2009
Korea (South)3011 Posts
July 19 2011 12:19 GMT
#1546
On July 19 2011 21:18 Holgerius wrote:
CJ will definitely be a tough nut to crack, but by no means impossible. Flash will win his games so they only need two other wins, and as some people have mentioned CJ is quite P heavy, which is great for KT.

I don't think any of KT's Zergs (maybe aside from Hoejja) is going to beat Horang2, and I don't think any of them have even a remote chance against Movie.
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Ikonn
Profile Joined October 2009
Netherlands1958 Posts
July 19 2011 12:19 GMT
#1547
On July 19 2011 21:17 sinistral wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 19 2011 21:14 Kipsate wrote:
Effort can't play till next season.

Only thing I am somewhat worried about is that CJ's strength relies on the Protoss and KT has several ZvP snipers, or people who can just hydrabust ^^.


Provided CJ's coach plays his cards right.

Horang2 faces any KT protosses.
Skyhigh faces any KT terrans(yes, even Flash).
Hydra faces any KT zergs.

That's 3 wins and Ace game in-hand already.


Skyhigh hasn't been that impressive in TvT at all this season and I definitely wouldn't call him favorite against Flash by any means
Zyferous
Profile Joined September 2010
United States270 Posts
July 19 2011 12:21 GMT
#1548
On July 19 2011 21:19 doothegee wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 19 2011 21:18 Holgerius wrote:
CJ will definitely be a tough nut to crack, but by no means impossible. Flash will win his games so they only need two other wins, and as some people have mentioned CJ is quite P heavy, which is great for KT.

I don't think any of KT's Zergs (maybe aside from Hoejja) is going to beat Horang2, and I don't think any of them have even a remote chance against Movie.


Not only that but the there's the omnipresent threat of Hydra roflstomping any zergs that KT has to throw out there, so the KT coaches have to be careful of that.
Jaedong forever.
KTF_CloaK
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Netherlands1338 Posts
July 19 2011 12:22 GMT
#1549
On July 19 2011 21:19 doothegee wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 19 2011 21:18 Holgerius wrote:
CJ will definitely be a tough nut to crack, but by no means impossible. Flash will win his games so they only need two other wins, and as some people have mentioned CJ is quite P heavy, which is great for KT.

I don't think any of KT's Zergs (maybe aside from Hoejja) is going to beat Horang2, and I don't think any of them have even a remote chance against Movie.


Movie's vZ hasnt been as good as it used to be, and if Axtion plays him on Icarus he has a good chance (remember action vs bisu on icarus? pwned) and skyhigh can't TvT for shit anymore so I say we can take it in 3 days ^^
KT Rolster for the win!! Lee-Young-Ho hwaiting!!
krndandaman
Profile Joined August 2009
Mozambique16569 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-07-19 12:24:05
July 19 2011 12:22 GMT
#1550
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doothegee
Profile Joined December 2009
Korea (South)3011 Posts
July 19 2011 12:23 GMT
#1551
On July 19 2011 21:22 KTF_CloaK wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 19 2011 21:19 doothegee wrote:
On July 19 2011 21:18 Holgerius wrote:
CJ will definitely be a tough nut to crack, but by no means impossible. Flash will win his games so they only need two other wins, and as some people have mentioned CJ is quite P heavy, which is great for KT.

I don't think any of KT's Zergs (maybe aside from Hoejja) is going to beat Horang2, and I don't think any of them have even a remote chance against Movie.


Movie's vZ hasnt been as good as it used to be, and if Axtion plays him on Icarus he has a good chance (remember action vs bisu on icarus? pwned) and skyhigh can't TvT for shit anymore so I say we can take it in 3 days ^^

http://www.teamliquid.net/tlpd/details.php?section=korean&type=players&id=564&part=games&vs=Z&league=standard&map=any&from_year=2011&from_month=2&from_day=25&to_year=2011&to_month=6&to_day=30&action=Update

Wait what

CJ has been known for putting out great lineups (albeit that was under Coach Cho) so we'll see how it works out.
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Iplaythings
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
Denmark9110 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-07-19 12:25:51
July 19 2011 12:24 GMT
#1552
On July 19 2011 21:16 Ryo wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 19 2011 21:14 Kipsate wrote:
Effort can't play till next season.

Only thing I am somewhat worried about is that CJ's strength relies on the Protoss and KT has several ZvP snipers, or people who can just hydrabust ^^.

Seriously, it's only Hoejja who's really playing well.

Stats' play were chrisp as hell, roo wasnt that good and should be able to upset a CJ toss, barracks is gonna be cannon fodder though, though CH might get to ZvP oO
On July 19 2011 21:22 krndandaman wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 19 2011 21:16 reincremate wrote:
Excuse my fanboyism, but I think that despite their recent performance, CJ is still a team mostly made up of one-matchup snipers who are inconsistent in their other match-ups. If all the snipers get their favoured MUs, I predict a close match, but if not, then KT will probably roll them. No one on CJ can take Flash in an ace match except maybe Snow--but even then Flash is obviously favoured.

Show nested quote +
On July 19 2011 21:17 sinistral wrote:
On July 19 2011 21:14 Kipsate wrote:
Effort can't play till next season.

Only thing I am somewhat worried about is that CJ's strength relies on the Protoss and KT has several ZvP snipers, or people who can just hydrabust ^^.


Provided CJ's coach plays his cards right.

Horang2 faces any KT protosses.
Skyhigh faces any KT terrans(yes, even Flash).
Hydra faces any KT zergs.

That's 3 wins and Ace game in-hand already.

look at it the other way around!

Skyhigh - dies to anything non TvT
Movie - just avoid his PvZ and you have a good chance of winning
Hydra - just avoid ZvZ and ZvP
Snow - just send a zerg vs him
Leta - send a protoss
Horang2- send a terran or zerg but this guy has been hot lately

Hydra and leta doesnt have a weak matchup, they have a "weaker" matchup
In the woods, there lurks..
sixfour
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
England11062 Posts
July 19 2011 12:24 GMT
#1553
On July 19 2011 21:22 krndandaman wrote:

Horang2- send a terran or zerg but this guy has been hot lately


nice ninja edit and he's fine vZ
p: stats, horang2, free, jangbi z: soulkey, zero, shine, hydra t: leta, hiya, sea
doothegee
Profile Joined December 2009
Korea (South)3011 Posts
July 19 2011 12:24 GMT
#1554
On July 19 2011 21:22 krndandaman wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 19 2011 21:16 reincremate wrote:
Excuse my fanboyism, but I think that despite their recent performance, CJ is still a team mostly made up of one-matchup snipers who are inconsistent in their other match-ups. If all the snipers get their favoured MUs, I predict a close match, but if not, then KT will probably roll them. No one on CJ can take Flash in an ace match except maybe Snow--but even then Flash is obviously favoured.

Show nested quote +
On July 19 2011 21:17 sinistral wrote:
On July 19 2011 21:14 Kipsate wrote:
Effort can't play till next season.

Only thing I am somewhat worried about is that CJ's strength relies on the Protoss and KT has several ZvP snipers, or people who can just hydrabust ^^.


Provided CJ's coach plays his cards right.

Horang2 faces any KT protosses.
Skyhigh faces any KT terrans(yes, even Flash).
Hydra faces any KT zergs.

That's 3 wins and Ace game in-hand already.

look at it the other way around!

Skyhigh - dies to anything non TvT
Movie - just avoid his PvZ and you have a good chance of winning
Hydra - just avoid ZvZ and ZvP
Snow - just send a zerg vs him
Leta - send a protoss
Horang2- send a zerg

Hydra vs Flash
Movie vs Stats/Barracks
Horang2 vs Hoejja
Leta vs Tempest
Snow vs Action
Skyhigh vs Perfective

And this is the best case scenario.
I don't think KT has much of a chance.
Then again, I said that before this series.
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J1.au
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
Australia3596 Posts
July 19 2011 12:24 GMT
#1555
There is only one player on CJ capable of taking on Flash in the ace match, and KeSPA won't let him play. SKT here we come.
krndandaman
Profile Joined August 2009
Mozambique16569 Posts
July 19 2011 12:25 GMT
#1556
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Ryo
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
8787 Posts
July 19 2011 12:25 GMT
#1557
On July 19 2011 21:24 Iplaythings wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 19 2011 21:16 Ryo wrote:
On July 19 2011 21:14 Kipsate wrote:
Effort can't play till next season.

Only thing I am somewhat worried about is that CJ's strength relies on the Protoss and KT has several ZvP snipers, or people who can just hydrabust ^^.

Seriously, it's only Hoejja who's really playing well.

Stats' play were chrisp as hell, roo wasnt that good and should be able to upset a CJ toss, barracks is gonna be cannon fodder though, though CH might get to ZvP oO

No I meant among the KT zergs, in reference to the "ZvP snipers" comment.
영원히 엠비씨게임 히어로 팬.
Iplaythings
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
Denmark9110 Posts
July 19 2011 12:26 GMT
#1558
On July 19 2011 21:25 Ryo wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 19 2011 21:24 Iplaythings wrote:
On July 19 2011 21:16 Ryo wrote:
On July 19 2011 21:14 Kipsate wrote:
Effort can't play till next season.

Only thing I am somewhat worried about is that CJ's strength relies on the Protoss and KT has several ZvP snipers, or people who can just hydrabust ^^.

Seriously, it's only Hoejja who's really playing well.

Stats' play were chrisp as hell, roo wasnt that good and should be able to upset a CJ toss, barracks is gonna be cannon fodder though, though CH might get to ZvP oO

No I meant among the KT zergs, in reference to the "ZvP snipers" comment.

Oh I see, that makes sense too =D
In the woods, there lurks..
doothegee
Profile Joined December 2009
Korea (South)3011 Posts
July 19 2011 12:26 GMT
#1559
On July 19 2011 21:25 krndandaman wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 19 2011 21:23 doothegee wrote:
On July 19 2011 21:22 KTF_CloaK wrote:
On July 19 2011 21:19 doothegee wrote:
On July 19 2011 21:18 Holgerius wrote:
CJ will definitely be a tough nut to crack, but by no means impossible. Flash will win his games so they only need two other wins, and as some people have mentioned CJ is quite P heavy, which is great for KT.

I don't think any of KT's Zergs (maybe aside from Hoejja) is going to beat Horang2, and I don't think any of them have even a remote chance against Movie.


Movie's vZ hasnt been as good as it used to be, and if Axtion plays him on Icarus he has a good chance (remember action vs bisu on icarus? pwned) and skyhigh can't TvT for shit anymore so I say we can take it in 3 days ^^

http://www.teamliquid.net/tlpd/details.php?section=korean&type=players&id=564&part=games&vs=Z&league=standard&map=any&from_year=2011&from_month=2&from_day=25&to_year=2011&to_month=6&to_day=30&action=Update

Wait what

CJ has been known for putting out great lineups (albeit that was under Coach Cho) so we'll see how it works out.


thats kind of deceptive seeing how nobody there is known for being good at zvp except zero
and some players on that list are just bad

You might as well be describing KT zergs. He doesn't have to beat Jaedong here.
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Sawamura
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Malaysia7602 Posts
July 19 2011 12:27 GMT
#1560
On July 19 2011 21:24 J1.au wrote:
There is only one player on CJ capable of taking on Flash in the ace match, and KeSPA won't let him play. SKT here we come.


MA JE YONGGGGG T_T !!!!!
BW/KT Forever R.I.P KT.Violet dearly missed ..
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