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[SPL] Play-offs Woongjin Stars vs KT Rolster day 3 - Page 79

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krndandaman
Profile Joined August 2009
Mozambique16569 Posts
July 19 2011 12:27 GMT
#1561
--- Nuked ---
TwoToneTerran
Profile Joined March 2009
United States8841 Posts
July 19 2011 12:28 GMT
#1562
CJ should win, KT will win. It's oz vs cj from two years ago all over again.
Remember Violet.
saltywet
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
Hong Kong1316 Posts
July 19 2011 12:29 GMT
#1563
On July 19 2011 21:22 krndandaman wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 19 2011 21:16 reincremate wrote:
Excuse my fanboyism, but I think that despite their recent performance, CJ is still a team mostly made up of one-matchup snipers who are inconsistent in their other match-ups. If all the snipers get their favoured MUs, I predict a close match, but if not, then KT will probably roll them. No one on CJ can take Flash in an ace match except maybe Snow--but even then Flash is obviously favoured.

Show nested quote +
On July 19 2011 21:17 sinistral wrote:
On July 19 2011 21:14 Kipsate wrote:
Effort can't play till next season.

Only thing I am somewhat worried about is that CJ's strength relies on the Protoss and KT has several ZvP snipers, or people who can just hydrabust ^^.


Provided CJ's coach plays his cards right.

Horang2 faces any KT protosses.
Skyhigh faces any KT terrans(yes, even Flash).
Hydra faces any KT zergs.

That's 3 wins and Ace game in-hand already.

look at it the other way around!

Skyhigh - dies to anything non TvT
Movie - just avoid his PvZ and you have a good chance of winning
Hydra - just avoid ZvZ and ZvP
Snow - just send a zerg vs him
Leta - send a protoss
Horang2- send a terran or zerg but this guy has been hot lately


i believe horang2, hydra, leta and maybe movie will destroy nonFlash KT (even against stats)

having said that, i also believe CJ will hold try to hold back their best players as much as possible to prepare against SKT. CJ is going to try to use their rookies as much as possible unless they're forced to use their main hand
krndandaman
Profile Joined August 2009
Mozambique16569 Posts
July 19 2011 12:30 GMT
#1564
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J1.au
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
Australia3596 Posts
July 19 2011 12:30 GMT
#1565
On July 19 2011 21:29 saltywet wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 19 2011 21:22 krndandaman wrote:
On July 19 2011 21:16 reincremate wrote:
Excuse my fanboyism, but I think that despite their recent performance, CJ is still a team mostly made up of one-matchup snipers who are inconsistent in their other match-ups. If all the snipers get their favoured MUs, I predict a close match, but if not, then KT will probably roll them. No one on CJ can take Flash in an ace match except maybe Snow--but even then Flash is obviously favoured.

On July 19 2011 21:17 sinistral wrote:
On July 19 2011 21:14 Kipsate wrote:
Effort can't play till next season.

Only thing I am somewhat worried about is that CJ's strength relies on the Protoss and KT has several ZvP snipers, or people who can just hydrabust ^^.


Provided CJ's coach plays his cards right.

Horang2 faces any KT protosses.
Skyhigh faces any KT terrans(yes, even Flash).
Hydra faces any KT zergs.

That's 3 wins and Ace game in-hand already.

look at it the other way around!

Skyhigh - dies to anything non TvT
Movie - just avoid his PvZ and you have a good chance of winning
Hydra - just avoid ZvZ and ZvP
Snow - just send a zerg vs him
Leta - send a protoss
Horang2- send a terran or zerg but this guy has been hot lately


i believe horang2, hydra, leta and maybe movie will destroy nonFlash KT (even against stats)

having said that, i also believe CJ will hold try to hold back their best players as much as possible to prepare against SKT. CJ is going to try to use their rookies as much as possible unless they're forced to use their main hand

That is totally absurd. There is no way in hell CJ would do that.
Holgerius
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
Sweden16951 Posts
July 19 2011 12:30 GMT
#1566
On July 19 2011 21:27 Sawamura wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 19 2011 21:24 J1.au wrote:
There is only one player on CJ capable of taking on Flash in the ace match, and KeSPA won't let him play. SKT here we come.


MA JE YONGGGGG T_T !!!!!

Effort?
I believe in the almighty Grötslev! -- I am never serious and you should never believe a thing I say. Including the previous sentence.
doothegee
Profile Joined December 2009
Korea (South)3011 Posts
July 19 2011 12:30 GMT
#1567
On July 19 2011 21:30 J1.au wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 19 2011 21:29 saltywet wrote:
On July 19 2011 21:22 krndandaman wrote:
On July 19 2011 21:16 reincremate wrote:
Excuse my fanboyism, but I think that despite their recent performance, CJ is still a team mostly made up of one-matchup snipers who are inconsistent in their other match-ups. If all the snipers get their favoured MUs, I predict a close match, but if not, then KT will probably roll them. No one on CJ can take Flash in an ace match except maybe Snow--but even then Flash is obviously favoured.

On July 19 2011 21:17 sinistral wrote:
On July 19 2011 21:14 Kipsate wrote:
Effort can't play till next season.

Only thing I am somewhat worried about is that CJ's strength relies on the Protoss and KT has several ZvP snipers, or people who can just hydrabust ^^.


Provided CJ's coach plays his cards right.

Horang2 faces any KT protosses.
Skyhigh faces any KT terrans(yes, even Flash).
Hydra faces any KT zergs.

That's 3 wins and Ace game in-hand already.

look at it the other way around!

Skyhigh - dies to anything non TvT
Movie - just avoid his PvZ and you have a good chance of winning
Hydra - just avoid ZvZ and ZvP
Snow - just send a zerg vs him
Leta - send a protoss
Horang2- send a terran or zerg but this guy has been hot lately


i believe horang2, hydra, leta and maybe movie will destroy nonFlash KT (even against stats)

having said that, i also believe CJ will hold try to hold back their best players as much as possible to prepare against SKT. CJ is going to try to use their rookies as much as possible unless they're forced to use their main hand

That is totally absurd. There is no way in hell CJ would do that.

Yeah, that's kind of insane.
웅진 멘쓰즈
Sawamura
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Malaysia7602 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-07-19 12:33:26
July 19 2011 12:32 GMT
#1568
On July 19 2011 21:30 Holgerius wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 19 2011 21:27 Sawamura wrote:
On July 19 2011 21:24 J1.au wrote:
There is only one player on CJ capable of taking on Flash in the ace match, and KeSPA won't let him play. SKT here we come.


MA JE YONGGGGG T_T !!!!!

Effort?


effort isn't banned by kespa as far as i know
BW/KT Forever R.I.P KT.Violet dearly missed ..
doothegee
Profile Joined December 2009
Korea (South)3011 Posts
July 19 2011 12:33 GMT
#1569
On July 19 2011 21:32 Sawamura wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 19 2011 21:30 Holgerius wrote:
On July 19 2011 21:27 Sawamura wrote:
On July 19 2011 21:24 J1.au wrote:
There is only one player on CJ capable of taking on Flash in the ace match, and KeSPA won't let him play. SKT here we come.


MA JE YONGGGGG T_T !!!!!

Effort?


effort isn't banned by kespa as far i know ....

Regulations prevent him from playing until August something.
웅진 멘쓰즈
iLoveKT
Profile Blog Joined October 2008
Philippines3615 Posts
July 19 2011 12:34 GMT
#1570
one thing though, KT coaching staff has been spot on this post season. Only mistake i can recall was hoejja vs light. everything else was perfect. the coach's lineup in KT vs CJ will definitely be very interesting. CJ's staff are already known for good lineups but KT's staff arent slouches either.
Woo Jung Ho
Holgerius
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
Sweden16951 Posts
July 19 2011 12:39 GMT
#1571
On July 19 2011 21:32 Sawamura wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 19 2011 21:30 Holgerius wrote:
On July 19 2011 21:27 Sawamura wrote:
On July 19 2011 21:24 J1.au wrote:
There is only one player on CJ capable of taking on Flash in the ace match, and KeSPA won't let him play. SKT here we come.


MA JE YONGGGGG T_T !!!!!

Effort?


effort isn't banned by kespa as far as i know

He retired and lost his progaming license, remember? So he isn't allowed to play yet.
I believe in the almighty Grötslev! -- I am never serious and you should never believe a thing I say. Including the previous sentence.
Kipsate
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Netherlands45349 Posts
July 19 2011 12:41 GMT
#1572
banned =/ not allowed to play.
WriterXiao8~~
darktreb
Profile Joined May 2007
United States3019 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-07-19 12:47:19
July 19 2011 12:46 GMT
#1573
On July 19 2011 21:28 TwoToneTerran wrote:
CJ should win, KT will win. It's oz vs cj from two years ago all over again.


I agree but disagree. I agree because I'm pretty sure it won't be a 2-0 clean sweep by either team, and that Flash is greatly superior to any player on CJ right now (with CJ's top Zerg, was Effort 2 years ago is now Hydra as the closest contestant). However, I disagree because I think CJ will win 2-1. Recall that two years ago Oz ninja'd day 1 and then there was a super ace ... if it had gone to day 3 like it would have in today's format, I strongly believe CJ would have won, and that's what I think will happen here as well.
Toadily
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States837 Posts
July 19 2011 12:52 GMT
#1574
Had to leave after Action vs Light, but so happy about Roo closing it out 2 days in a row, what a champion. Hoejja/Roo definitely stepped up this post season, now we just need action to step it up, but can't say I'm too disappointed about action's game today.
SimonB
Profile Joined September 2008
United States1088 Posts
July 19 2011 12:57 GMT
#1575
CJ will be tough, but I think they could be dispatched with relative ease if the matchups lineup right. Even though they've been on rolls lately, I just don't think much of Movie and Horang2 as very complete players. Hydra has been impressive, but hardly unbeatable. Leta hasn't been anywhere close to the same PL monster this season.

I also want to note that Flash has always seemed particularly tough on CJ. I mean, he has a 70%+ overall, so he's tough against everybody, but there really isn't any Flash killer among their ranks that would scare me in an ace match.
Holgerius
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
Sweden16951 Posts
July 19 2011 13:08 GMT
#1576
CJ are actually pretty good at sniping Flash, such as that ace game win by Snow.
I believe in the almighty Grötslev! -- I am never serious and you should never believe a thing I say. Including the previous sentence.
FuRong
Profile Joined April 2010
New Zealand3089 Posts
July 19 2011 13:08 GMT
#1577
Well, this all worked out better than expected...next up CJ Entus~
Don't hate the player, hate the game
TwoToneTerran
Profile Joined March 2009
United States8841 Posts
July 19 2011 13:11 GMT
#1578
On July 19 2011 21:34 iLoveKT wrote:
one thing though, KT coaching staff has been spot on this post season. Only mistake i can recall was hoejja vs light. everything else was perfect. the coach's lineup in KT vs CJ will definitely be very interesting. CJ's staff are already known for good lineups but KT's staff arent slouches either.


Stats vs Zero, no Stats vs Light. Flash vs Really twice isn't really as good as Flash vs Soulkey. They fed Light a KT zerg every day in Hoejja, CH, and Action. Roo vs Soulkey wasn't a good matchup by any sense even though we won it. I'd say the matchups were 50/50, maybe leaning woongjin considering how they cherry fed light 3 days in a row.
Remember Violet.
Sawamura
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Malaysia7602 Posts
July 19 2011 13:12 GMT
#1579
send stats for ace to troll cj entus = profit :D
BW/KT Forever R.I.P KT.Violet dearly missed ..
4vvhiplash7
Profile Joined December 2010
South Africa392 Posts
July 19 2011 13:22 GMT
#1580
Is KT vs CJ this coming weekend?
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