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Ermac
Profile Joined June 2011
336 Posts
June 15 2011 05:37 GMT
#421
On June 15 2011 14:35 disciple wrote:
how the game went imo:

JD opens with early game ling aggression, Flash sees it coming and block it on the ramp outside of his natural. JD is behind on drones and economy so he decides to 2 base all-in. For some reason Flash thinks JD would take a 3rd on 9 o'clock and gets his entire army there and leaves 2 firebats in the bunker outside of his nat. JD goes in with muta, and flash seems to have enough turrets. JD brings in a control group of lings to clean up and turrets while it takes half a day for flash to bring back his forces from 9 o'clock. GG


That's pretty much how it went, yeah. :>
"Blind aggressiveness would destroy the attack itself, not the defense." - Carl von Clausewitz
Winechu
Profile Joined May 2011
Singapore1186 Posts
June 15 2011 05:37 GMT
#422
On June 15 2011 14:35 disciple wrote:
how the game went imo:

JD opens with early game ling aggression, Flash sees it coming and block it on the ramp outside of his natural. JD is behind on drones and economy so he decides to 2 base all-in. For some reason Flash thinks JD would take a 3rd on 9 o'clock and gets his entire army there and leaves 2 firebats in the bunker outside of his nat. JD goes in with muta, and flash seems to have enough turrets. JD brings in a control group of lings to clean up and turrets while it takes half a day for flash to bring back his forces from 9 o'clock. GG


It was aggressive, but it wasn't an all-in IMO
Carnivorous Sheep
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
Baa?21245 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-06-15 05:38:23
June 15 2011 05:37 GMT
#423
On June 15 2011 14:36 kaleidoscope wrote:

But meat eating sheep isnt =P


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TranslatorBaa!
mdb
Profile Blog Joined February 2003
Bulgaria4059 Posts
June 15 2011 05:38 GMT
#424
whats up with the sheep?
Hero.SP
Profile Joined March 2010
Chile711 Posts
June 15 2011 05:38 GMT
#425
NEXUS!
"well you know, the hardest part is the gg, I mean you have to be aware anytime your opponent can type gg, and you have to gg just right after him." - Flash
blade55555
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
United States17423 Posts
June 15 2011 05:38 GMT
#426
On June 15 2011 14:38 mdb wrote:
whats up with the sheep?


its flamewheels thing when jaedong wins
When I think of something else, something will go here
Winechu
Profile Joined May 2011
Singapore1186 Posts
June 15 2011 05:38 GMT
#427
Stats 12nex at inner 4.5, interesting.
wbirdy
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
Singapore335 Posts
June 15 2011 05:38 GMT
#428
ballsy nexus
become legendary
WWJDD
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
India342 Posts
June 15 2011 05:39 GMT
#429
On June 15 2011 14:33 konadora wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 15 2011 14:28 iLoveKT wrote:
what the hell was that at 9 flash...

probably expected the standard build but jaedong played smart, he knew flash will do this and that he cant defend the 2nd expo, thus he sacrificed expo for a timed attack, making use of the fact that with the army out, flash will have less units to defend in the main


Well stated Sir. Flash kinda got ahead of himself, and got overagressive. I was waiting for somebody to break Flash's 14cc after scout build, and it looks like JD managed to do just that.
WWJDD??
Carnivorous Sheep
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
Baa?21245 Posts
June 15 2011 05:39 GMT
#430
On June 15 2011 14:37 Winechu wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 15 2011 14:35 disciple wrote:
how the game went imo:

JD opens with early game ling aggression, Flash sees it coming and block it on the ramp outside of his natural. JD is behind on drones and economy so he decides to 2 base all-in. For some reason Flash thinks JD would take a 3rd on 9 o'clock and gets his entire army there and leaves 2 firebats in the bunker outside of his nat. JD goes in with muta, and flash seems to have enough turrets. JD brings in a control group of lings to clean up and turrets while it takes half a day for flash to bring back his forces from 9 o'clock. GG


It was aggressive, but it wasn't an all-in IMO


Definitely all-in. 14cc vs. forced to mass two groups of lings, 2 sunkens, and no third? Definitely all-in :3
TranslatorBaa!
Tenhou
Profile Joined April 2011
1052 Posts
June 15 2011 05:39 GMT
#431
On June 15 2011 14:37 Winechu wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 15 2011 14:35 disciple wrote:
how the game went imo:

JD opens with early game ling aggression, Flash sees it coming and block it on the ramp outside of his natural. JD is behind on drones and economy so he decides to 2 base all-in. For some reason Flash thinks JD would take a 3rd on 9 o'clock and gets his entire army there and leaves 2 firebats in the bunker outside of his nat. JD goes in with muta, and flash seems to have enough turrets. JD brings in a control group of lings to clean up and turrets while it takes half a day for flash to bring back his forces from 9 o'clock. GG


It was aggressive, but it wasn't an all-in IMO


2 base, all larve went into mutaling and how many zergling was made in the early game? that doesn't count as an all in to you?
konadora *
Profile Blog Joined February 2009
Singapore66363 Posts
June 15 2011 05:39 GMT
#432
lol sick expansion order
POGGERS
champignones
Profile Joined September 2008
Panama160 Posts
June 15 2011 05:39 GMT
#433
On June 15 2011 14:37 blade55555 wrote:
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On June 15 2011 14:36 champignones wrote:
its funny all these people talk about the great zvt from flash when he only won by a muta lame attack, tell me when he win flash in a long macro game and we will talk about having good zvt.


tell me when flash stops making mistakes so that jaedong doesn't have to kill him early, then we can have a good zvt

this only proves flash messed up big time and thats it, jd will gain my respect again when he win flash in a BO5 in a league final or semifinal ,but i promise you he will lose as he always do against flash.
you shouldnt worry if everybody ignore you, you should be worry when they dont anymore.
konadora *
Profile Blog Joined February 2009
Singapore66363 Posts
June 15 2011 05:39 GMT
#434
On June 15 2011 14:39 Carnivorous Sheep wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 15 2011 14:37 Winechu wrote:
On June 15 2011 14:35 disciple wrote:
how the game went imo:

JD opens with early game ling aggression, Flash sees it coming and block it on the ramp outside of his natural. JD is behind on drones and economy so he decides to 2 base all-in. For some reason Flash thinks JD would take a 3rd on 9 o'clock and gets his entire army there and leaves 2 firebats in the bunker outside of his nat. JD goes in with muta, and flash seems to have enough turrets. JD brings in a control group of lings to clean up and turrets while it takes half a day for flash to bring back his forces from 9 o'clock. GG


It was aggressive, but it wasn't an all-in IMO


Definitely all-in. 14cc vs. forced to mass two groups of lings, 2 sunkens, and no third? Definitely all-in :3

wouldn't be enough to call it all-in, tbh
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DarkMatter_
Profile Joined January 2010
Canada1774 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-06-15 05:43:23
June 15 2011 05:40 GMT
#435
On June 15 2011 14:36 champignones wrote:
its funny all these people talk about the great zvt from jaedong when he only won by a muta lame attack, tell me when he win flash in a long macro game and we will talk about having good zvt.

You know, there were 3 MSLs where Jaedong attempted to beat Flash in lategame. Jaedong won the first time and then Flash decided to 14CC and go for timing attacks in the next 2 MSLs and avoid playing Jaedong lategame.

Also, how is it Jaedong's fault if Flash can't survive mutaling aggression from a 3 hatch opening? LOL
Hyde
Profile Blog Joined November 2007
Australia14568 Posts
June 15 2011 05:40 GMT
#436
Map is New Beltway

Hiya going rax expand
Stats is building a nex at the inner SE expo, that's new
he has a gate up, warping in a core now

scv arrives inside main and see's nothing but gate and core
zealot out to deal with the scout
Hiya building a bunker at his nat, factory going up, he must be thinking something's up
Because when you left, Brood War was all spotlights and titans. Now, with the death of the big leagues, Brood War has moved to the basements and carparks. Now, Brood War is unlicensed brawls, lost teeth, and bloody fights for fistfulls of money - SirJolt
lyAsakura
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
United States1414 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-06-15 05:41:51
June 15 2011 05:40 GMT
#437
dat scout
just realized that stats gave hiya a perfect opportunity to do a 4 fact timing attack, he cannot possibly defend the mineral only
WeMade FOX would be a deadly SC2 team.
Carnivorous Sheep
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
Baa?21245 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-06-15 05:41:42
June 15 2011 05:41 GMT
#438
On June 15 2011 14:39 konadora wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 15 2011 14:39 Carnivorous Sheep wrote:
On June 15 2011 14:37 Winechu wrote:
On June 15 2011 14:35 disciple wrote:
how the game went imo:

JD opens with early game ling aggression, Flash sees it coming and block it on the ramp outside of his natural. JD is behind on drones and economy so he decides to 2 base all-in. For some reason Flash thinks JD would take a 3rd on 9 o'clock and gets his entire army there and leaves 2 firebats in the bunker outside of his nat. JD goes in with muta, and flash seems to have enough turrets. JD brings in a control group of lings to clean up and turrets while it takes half a day for flash to bring back his forces from 9 o'clock. GG


It was aggressive, but it wasn't an all-in IMO


Definitely all-in. 14cc vs. forced to mass two groups of lings, 2 sunkens, and no third? Definitely all-in :3

wouldn't be enough to call it all-in, tbh


If that attack did anything less than kill like 20 SCVs and a bazillion marines, Jaedong would've lost :3 Pretty all-in ;o
TranslatorBaa!
NovaTheFeared
Profile Blog Joined October 2004
United States7232 Posts
June 15 2011 05:41 GMT
#439
Now that's greed. 3 base 1 gate 1 robo?
日本語が分かりますか
salito
Profile Joined May 2010
1649 Posts
June 15 2011 05:41 GMT
#440
come on, fast 3rd for stats. perfect for a timing attack
Nature moves in the shortest way possible.
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