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Strafe vs Gundam - Liquibition 15

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Liquid`Nazgul
Profile Blog Joined September 2002
22427 Posts
November 02 2004 21:29 GMT
#1
No topic about it yet, maybe some of you guys need to share your feelings well then here you go.

I personally think losing 3-4 to one of the best TvP players ever is pretty damn good, so credit to Strafe for that. What I'm even more enthousiastic about is that Gundam won and we'll be seeing him some more. Against what I would consider a tougher opponent that Strafe.
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RowdierBob
Profile Blog Joined May 2003
Australia13200 Posts
November 02 2004 21:33 GMT
#2
The game on Nostalgia really impressed me.

GJ both.
"Terrans are pretty much space-Australians" - H
ChApFoU
Profile Blog Joined July 2004
France2983 Posts
November 02 2004 21:41 GMT
#3
Some nice games, StraFe has pretty good macro but somehow i think gundam is still much better but strafe did put up a good fight.
"I honestly think that whoever invented toilet paper in a genius" Kang Min
Chibi[OWNS]
Profile Joined May 2003
United Kingdom10597 Posts
November 02 2004 21:42 GMT
#4
--- Nuked ---
RedAreStupid.
Profile Joined March 2003
Sweden476 Posts
November 02 2004 21:47 GMT
#5
well i think all games sucked, for me that means they were not entertaining
is is the best
Misca
Profile Joined September 2002
Netherlands605 Posts
November 02 2004 21:48 GMT
#6
Strafe could have won if he played normal the last 2 games...

I to think the games were a bith strange, like strafe didn't even try in some games.
Good job tho..
hasuwar
Profile Joined April 2003
7365 Posts
November 02 2004 21:51 GMT
#7
If you ask me, gundam got pretty lucky. Strafe made him look pretty sad in some of those games...
Diablo3 ID: Exalted#1710 -------R.I.P. http://hasuwar.isgsa.org. Much love to Toptalent
Beast_Bg
Profile Joined October 2002
Bulgaria1623 Posts
November 02 2004 21:53 GMT
#8
Strafe could have won easy.
MadFrog : In my opinion, the biggest reason why WC3 is dying is because it is not such a great game as Brood War is.
typhy
Profile Joined September 2004
129 Posts
November 02 2004 21:57 GMT
#9
now don't say that.. gundam did some stupid shit aswell ;P
Misca
Profile Joined September 2002
Netherlands605 Posts
November 02 2004 21:58 GMT
#10
Like the M&M wraith shit on FZ :S
Nal_Testie
Profile Joined April 2004
Canada1257 Posts
Last Edited: 2004-11-02 22:19:41
November 02 2004 22:12 GMT
#11
Granted had he played standard on Mercury he may have won, as it does favour protoss (vs most terrans).

But he was just hoping to surprise Gundam with that, despite me telling him explicitly not to when he questioned me about it earlier on.
I told him if he's going to do that, he had better have a ramp. It's actually a feasible strat in 9 vs 6 PvT on lotem, and on some other maps in other positions as well.

Edit: I do not think Gundams build on Neo Forbidden zone was particularily bad. I think he was hoping to surprise him more than anything else. Killing observer, knocking out probes, possible drop defense, and the going m/m/tank was decent as well. But Strafe played safe and sent an observer to his base first, instead of oh say.. 4 zealots or something. Not that most people wold drop first though on Neo Forbidden. ;-)

I think Gundams TvP there had some credibility and looked kind of sneaky / smart considering the situation he let himself get into. Unfortuneately he was found first with observer. As anyone who goes gol drop on that map first will be pretty much 100% dead.

Some people think Gundam played badly there... but I don't really consider it that bad at all on maps that vs most people would favour a protoss. (I do not call many maps like nostalgia imbalanced, because you can get around that).
The fact that we have flamethrowers means at some point someone said to himself - Gee I sure would like to set those people on fire over there but im just not close enough to get the job done, if only I had something that would throw the flame on them
Random()
Profile Blog Joined August 2004
Kyrgyz Republic1462 Posts
Last Edited: 2004-11-02 23:38:04
November 02 2004 22:22 GMT
#12
What was that reaver drop in game 2 ?

If Gundam wasn't touching those tanks reaver would've died

EDIT: I totally can't understand that siege/unsiege masturbation...
Gandalf the Wizard
Profile Joined October 2004
United States163 Posts
November 02 2004 22:30 GMT
#13
Last game was super sneaky.

Last two games ended too fast for me
proTOSS[GER]
Profile Joined September 2004
858 Posts
November 03 2004 00:04 GMT
#14
Damn my 4 liquibetpts are gone...

"siege/unsiege masturbation" - damn funny :D
That is many tank yes?
MaTRiX[SiN]
Profile Joined September 2003
Sweden1282 Posts
November 03 2004 00:09 GMT
#15
I dont understand why every1 say they r so impressed by strafe cause of this..their were 2 decent games..the ones on fz and luna..the first 2 I dont understand wtf gundam was doing and the last 2 were just plain silly..for the requiem game thats probably the worst display I've ever seen from players at this level..imo they both played horrible and im not impressed at all..
aka StormtoSS
eAmYo
Profile Joined May 2004
Germany194 Posts
November 03 2004 00:43 GMT
#16
ok Matrix
and now shut up
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racebannon
Profile Joined January 2004
Canada1225 Posts
Last Edited: 2004-11-03 00:57:41
November 03 2004 00:57 GMT
#17
gundam had one scv on gas for the first 4 minutes of the game on requiem and when strafe DT rushed in one of the other games he never built an academy despite it going on for a long ass time
when they really get to know you they will run
Monsen
Profile Joined December 2002
Germany2548 Posts
November 03 2004 00:59 GMT
#18
I felt that gundam always was a bit behind on his macro, often I would think "that's not many scv, yes?" ... broken finger break = no thx :[
11 years and counting- TL #680
Sadist
Profile Blog Joined October 2002
United States7286 Posts
November 03 2004 01:17 GMT
#19
i still say gundam looked alot worse than he did in wsl
He had idle scvs in his main and his play looked very sloppy.
While gundam may not have always been noted for his macro, the nostalgia game was really bad in my opinion. Its not strafes fault that gundam didnt play that well, but it does sort of discredit some of the games. going 2 port wraith on forbidden zone was pretty stupid thuogh, i havent seen anyone go reaver on that or dt drop since its so easy to the expo below tyour base with gates and such onthe ground

Hopefully gundam plays better in the next series vs whoever ;d
How do you go from where you are to where you want to be? I think you have to have an enthusiasm for life. You have to have a dream, a goal and you have to be willing to work for it. Jim Valvano
Nal_Testie
Profile Joined April 2004
Canada1257 Posts
November 03 2004 01:18 GMT
#20
Personally, I hope he plays worse.
No real reason except for my extreme hate for Gundam.
The fact that we have flamethrowers means at some point someone said to himself - Gee I sure would like to set those people on fire over there but im just not close enough to get the job done, if only I had something that would throw the flame on them
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