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[SWL] Hwaseung OZ vs. STX SouL - Page 20

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DarkMatter_
Profile Joined January 2010
Canada1774 Posts
January 25 2011 11:41 GMT
#381
I love the way Oz is playing right now. In their last 3 games, every player they sent out did their part.
tabula rasa
Profile Joined December 2010
360 Posts
January 25 2011 11:41 GMT
#382
question: if a single lurker is in a dark swarm and a tank in siege mode fires on it, does the lurker take damage?
rainei
Profile Joined November 2009
Canada1316 Posts
January 25 2011 11:43 GMT
#383
On January 25 2011 20:41 tabula rasa wrote:
question: if a single lurker is in a dark swarm and a tank in siege mode fires on it, does the lurker take damage?


no. Splash doesn't work on burrowed units.
All aboard the HSY fanboat/train/ whatever form of transportation you desire!! Everyday is Sojin day
kuroshiroi
Profile Joined November 2010
3149 Posts
January 25 2011 11:44 GMT
#384
On January 25 2011 20:41 tabula rasa wrote:
question: if a single lurker is in a dark swarm and a tank in siege mode fires on it, does the lurker take damage?

No, invincible lurker is invincible.

User was warned for this post
Fly Jaedong, fly!
InFdude
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
Bulgaria619 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-01-25 11:44:48
January 25 2011 11:44 GMT
#385
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Cpadolf
Profile Joined August 2009
Sweden1199 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-01-25 11:45:16
January 25 2011 11:45 GMT
#386
Sweet, Oz on a roll! In their last 3 games they have gone 4-1, and all sent out players have gotten 2 kills each

Also the last game was pure art from Jaedong.
kuroshiroi
Profile Joined November 2010
3149 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-01-25 11:46:09
January 25 2011 11:45 GMT
#387
On January 25 2011 20:44 InFdude wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 25 2011 20:43 rainei wrote:
On January 25 2011 20:41 tabula rasa wrote:
question: if a single lurker is in a dark swarm and a tank in siege mode fires on it, does the lurker take damage?


no. Splash doesn't work on burrowed units.

But scarab splash will.

Scarab is a melee attack, afaik? Tank is ranged, etc. I'm probably wrong.
Fly Jaedong, fly!
tabula rasa
Profile Joined December 2010
360 Posts
January 25 2011 11:45 GMT
#388
what if the lurker isn't burrowed?
blue001
Profile Joined January 2009
106 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-01-25 11:47:04
January 25 2011 11:46 GMT
#389
lurks can be hit if unburrowed. When burrowed the only terran units that can damage it are mines, firebats and spells like irradiate and yamato iirc. (under dark swarm)
rainei
Profile Joined November 2009
Canada1316 Posts
January 25 2011 11:47 GMT
#390
On January 25 2011 20:45 kuroshiroi wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 25 2011 20:44 InFdude wrote:
On January 25 2011 20:43 rainei wrote:
On January 25 2011 20:41 tabula rasa wrote:
question: if a single lurker is in a dark swarm and a tank in siege mode fires on it, does the lurker take damage?


no. Splash doesn't work on burrowed units.

But scarab splash will.

Scarab is a melee attack, afaik? Tank is ranged, etc. I'm probably wrong.


Yea, scarab acts a melee unit. which hurts alot. If the lurker is unburrowed and the tank fires, the actual shell still misses, but the lurker gets hit by the shrapnel.
All aboard the HSY fanboat/train/ whatever form of transportation you desire!! Everyday is Sojin day
InFdude
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
Bulgaria619 Posts
January 25 2011 11:47 GMT
#391
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mustaju
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Estonia4505 Posts
January 25 2011 11:48 GMT
#392
On January 25 2011 20:41 Elroi wrote:
Jaedong owned bogus like every second of that game. I don't know what that means though, I haven't seen the good play from bogus yet this season (I haven't seen all of his games though..)

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On January 25 2011 20:34 mustaju wrote:
This made me a believer again. It's nice to see good Zerg play.

You are seriously opportunistic imo. You didn't see that Jaedong did exactly the same thing last game, with just a couple of small errors, but also with mor brilliance from time to time (the two-proned attack, the defence of the bunker rush)?

I'll take that criticism gladly, seeing JD play well again does that to me. But I think you are oversimplifying here. "A couple of small errors" included over-aggression, attacking the terran where he was strong with inferior forces, and staying on 4 bases for way too long, sometimes mismicroing. Maybe when I rewatch the game, I'll be able to see my own assessment mistakes, as I'd love to be wrong in that regard.
WriterBrows somewhat high. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ndFysO2JunE
kuroshiroi
Profile Joined November 2010
3149 Posts
January 25 2011 11:48 GMT
#393
On January 25 2011 20:46 blue001 wrote:
lurks can be hit if unburrowed. When burrowed the only terran units that can damage it are mines, firebats and spells like irradiate and yamato iirc. (under dark swarm)

Why would yamato work? Not that it would ever come up in a game ^^
Fly Jaedong, fly!
Cpadolf
Profile Joined August 2009
Sweden1199 Posts
January 25 2011 11:50 GMT
#394
On January 25 2011 20:48 kuroshiroi wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 25 2011 20:46 blue001 wrote:
lurks can be hit if unburrowed. When burrowed the only terran units that can damage it are mines, firebats and spells like irradiate and yamato iirc. (under dark swarm)

Why would yamato work? Not that it would ever come up in a game ^^


Because it is a spell.
kuroshiroi
Profile Joined November 2010
3149 Posts
January 25 2011 11:51 GMT
#395
On January 25 2011 20:50 Cpadolf wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 25 2011 20:48 kuroshiroi wrote:
On January 25 2011 20:46 blue001 wrote:
lurks can be hit if unburrowed. When burrowed the only terran units that can damage it are mines, firebats and spells like irradiate and yamato iirc. (under dark swarm)

Why would yamato work? Not that it would ever come up in a game ^^


Because it is a spell.

Makes sense. It's ranged too though but I guess spell > spell animation effect.
Fly Jaedong, fly!
Elroi
Profile Joined August 2009
Sweden5600 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-01-25 12:09:52
January 25 2011 11:55 GMT
#396
On January 25 2011 20:48 mustaju wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 25 2011 20:41 Elroi wrote:
Jaedong owned bogus like every second of that game. I don't know what that means though, I haven't seen the good play from bogus yet this season (I haven't seen all of his games though..)

On January 25 2011 20:34 mustaju wrote:
This made me a believer again. It's nice to see good Zerg play.

You are seriously opportunistic imo. You didn't see that Jaedong did exactly the same thing last game, with just a couple of small errors, but also with mor brilliance from time to time (the two-proned attack, the defence of the bunker rush)?

I'll take that criticism gladly, seeing JD play well again does that to me. But I think you are oversimplifying here. "A couple of small errors" included over-aggression, attacking the terran where he was strong with inferior forces, and staying on 4 bases for way too long, sometimes mismicroing. Maybe when I rewatch the game, I'll be able to see my own assessment mistakes, as I'd love to be wrong in that regard.

He turtled on 4 bases in both games to make that doom attack that killed Last with uppgraded ultras. It was his game plan, not just some random shit he made up there because the terran pressured him too much. He did exactly the same thing vs Bogus. Atleast, that's how I understood. I could be wrong though.

Tbh, if you didn't know about that game plan, his play looks very static. That's probably why he has been looking bad against protoss when they manage new timing attacks. Personally I prefer the agressive two base play he did before, but maybe that has been figured out. You almost never see zergs do that anymore, which looks rather silly right now in zvp especially - but maybe it just isn't viable/safe. I hope he will be able to show some new agressive zvp builds in the MSL finals against Stork.

edit: thx for the OP btw and the LR'ing
"To all eSports fans, I want to be remembered as a progamer who can make something out of nothing, and someone who always does his best. I think that is the right way of living, and I'm always doing my best to follow that." - Jaedong. /watch?v=jfghAzJqAp0
Tazza
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
Korea (South)1678 Posts
January 25 2011 11:56 GMT
#397
JAEDONG FTW!!!

Damn, I don't think I've ever seen such beautiful zvt. Especially the game he got cheesed, it looked like Jaedong was losing it, but no, he somehow held on. And then, against Bogus, he was down in BO match overpool vs 1 rax CC, but the Dong still came through
SuperJongMan
Profile Blog Joined March 2003
Jamaica11586 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-01-25 12:22:30
January 25 2011 12:21 GMT
#398
On January 25 2011 20:43 rainei wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 25 2011 20:41 tabula rasa wrote:
question: if a single lurker is in a dark swarm and a tank in siege mode fires on it, does the lurker take damage?


no. Splash doesn't work on burrowed units.


no. The single lurker is the focus of the attack, so it recieves no splash damage.
However, if a lurker were to be right beside or burrowed on top of the original lurker under fire, it would take splash damage.

ie you can't splash a single unit. DUH

Ahh... noobs everywhere =).
POWER OVERWHELMING ! ! ! KRUU~ KRUU~
Lightwip
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States5497 Posts
January 25 2011 12:22 GMT
#399
For once, JD actually played an impressive game. That's a good thing, I don't really want him to be doing poorly.
If you are not Bisu, chances are I hate you.
legaton
Profile Joined December 2010
France1763 Posts
January 25 2011 12:25 GMT
#400
Great game against Bogus, he really manhandled him, and he's in not a bad player, in fact, he has excellent record on the Proleague (funnily enough, he's three last losses are agaisnt Bisu, Flash and Jaedong... the S-class players telling him that he is good but not that good).
No GG, No Skill - Jaedong <3
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