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KimchiBreath
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Wings
United States999 Posts
On November 11 2010 18:25 Zona wrote: or holding your choke - that's sort of useful, too I really don't know what Jangbi was expecting to accomplish using an old and well known timing while doing nothing to hide it - it's as if he expected zerg build orders to suddenly forget to take into consideration that attack timing to have defenses up and ready It's actually really really sad... I remember when Jangbi won his silver medal, a lot of people were amazed at his impeccable play and adaptability. I personally thought the guy was the next big toss, I thought his play was so perfect at one point, with amazing storms... how far they fall. | ||
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McDonalds
Liechtenstein2244 Posts
TA-DOW. Well, poor Jangbi. But he tasted victory finally. | ||
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thopol
Japan4560 Posts
I'm not saying that Jangbi played well, just that he wasn't getting walked all over. He deliberately, and with probably sound logic, created those situations that allowed Hydra to walk on him. | ||
Elyvilon
United States13143 Posts
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Zona
40426 Posts
On November 11 2010 18:27 McDonalds wrote: Ta-dow. TA-DOW. Well, poor Jangbi. But he tasted victory finally. If he gets eliminated I don't think that the one win among the sea of losses will do much to improve his mindset. He needs to advance to get some confidence back. | ||
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bearbuddy
3442 Posts
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Oozo
Finland432 Posts
Everyone updating LR thread, big thanks and GJ! keep it up... makes my really long workday worth it. | ||
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Fenrax
United States5018 Posts
On November 11 2010 18:27 thopol wrote: I admit that it looked like bad play from Jangbi, and I know the guy aint performing lately, but it was just some minor control mistakes. The things that looked like strategic blunders were mostly him trying to be greedy. The initial ling break was caused by trying to cut corners (the trademark of his mentor), and some decisive decision making by Hydra. After getting behind, Jangbi seemed to be trying to cut as many corners as possible to try to decrease the margin. That makes sense, but his control wasn't good enough to make it work. I don't think it was bad decision making, just that he was creating situations where he had to manage. Hydra managed to exploit the situations Jangbi created and won. It looked like a comprehensive beating, getting totally outplayed, because his choices this game created those decisive situations. I'm not saying that Jangbi played well, just that he wasn't getting walked all over. He deliberately, and with probably sound logic, created those situations that allowed Hydra to walk on him. He made way too many Zealots after he knew about the Mutas. Sure they keep them away for a few seconds but where does that lead to? Also getting ZERO cannons in his Natural vs. Mutas is not cutting edges, it is flat out dumb. | ||
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ShadeR
Australia7535 Posts
YEAAAAHH Edit: I'm sure i didn't do that right but whatever. | ||
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Wings
United States999 Posts
On November 11 2010 18:27 thopol wrote: I admit that it looked like bad play from Jangbi, and I know the guy aint performing lately, but it was just some minor control mistakes. The things that looked like strategic blunders were mostly him trying to be greedy. The initial ling break was caused by trying to cut corners (the trademark of his mentor), and some decisive decision making by Hydra. After getting behind, Jangbi seemed to be trying to cut as many corners as possible to try to decrease the margin. That makes sense, but his control wasn't good enough to make it work. I don't think it was bad decision making, just that he was creating situations where he had to manage. Hydra managed to exploit the situations Jangbi created and won. It looked like a comprehensive beating, getting totally outplayed, because his choices this game created those decisive situations. I'm not saying that Jangbi played well, just that he wasn't getting walked all over. He deliberately, and with probably sound logic, created those situations that allowed Hydra to walk on him. completely disagree. what were all those wasted zealots for? and if you're going to be greedy, why not SCOUT and make sure that you'll be safe? I think a single advance probe could have told him whether lings were coming or not, which would have let him pull more probes in time for the wall break. Also, once you know your opponent has mutas, you NEED, no matter WHAT, cannons in your mineral line. Without them, your corsairs cannot dodge scourge. Jangbi was cutting corners, I agree; but if you cut too many corners, you're going to end up with a big fat circular target on your chest. | ||
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Wings
United States999 Posts
On November 11 2010 18:31 ShadeR wrote: Jangbi: Those lings...are troubLING... YEAAAAHH oh my god... this pains my heart -__- | ||
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Zona
40426 Posts
On November 11 2010 18:27 thopol wrote: stuff You get away with cutting corners in PvZ when you keep good tabs on what your opponent is doing by scouting. But despite his opponent naming himself "hydra" Jangbi still wasn't prepared for the 5 hatch hydra break...after being unprepared for mutas welp, here's ssak the teal terran at 7. Hoejja the orange zerg at 5. Circuit breaking again. OL heading the wrong way. | ||
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Zona
40426 Posts
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Wings
United States999 Posts
Hoejja vs Ssak. Hoejja at bottom right, Ssack at bottom left. Map is circuit breaker. | ||
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Zona
40426 Posts
a drone sees it | ||
Womwomwom
5930 Posts
Basically Jangbi being extremely greedy trying to block his natural with a cannon, a probe and a zealot despite seeing the zergling numbers snowballed into him getting utterly wrecked. Extremely stupid play either way, I can't remember the last time a planned +1 speedlot timing attack worked on anyone seeing most zergs have perfected the art of the simcity so why even bother unless you are seriously committing to it. | ||
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Zona
40426 Posts
hoejja sending a 2nd drone to be annoying? rax in ssak's main 3rd hatch before pool in hoejja's main | ||
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Wings
United States999 Posts
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Zona
40426 Posts
2nd rax for ssak a bio opening, for once bunker at the nat | ||
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