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Wings
Profile Joined January 2010
United States999 Posts
November 11 2010 09:35 GMT
#441
LOL AWESOME MOVE. Ssak thinks there's cheese coming so he pulls 4 scvs to battle 2 drones. Epic....
The probability of Kim Carrier getting all those predictions wrong is similar to the probability Flash loses a TvT. Kim Carrier MUST BE a genius. His only big mistake... STORK.
Wings
Profile Joined January 2010
United States999 Posts
November 11 2010 09:36 GMT
#442
On November 11 2010 18:35 Zona wrote:
and ssak sends FOUR scvs to deal with the 2 annoying drones??
2nd rax for ssak
a bio opening, for once
bunker at the nat

mind games, man, mind games. ssak is scared of kwanlings, and it's not completely unreasonable.
The probability of Kim Carrier getting all those predictions wrong is similar to the probability Flash loses a TvT. Kim Carrier MUST BE a genius. His only big mistake... STORK.
Fenrax
Profile Blog Joined January 2010
United States5018 Posts
November 11 2010 09:36 GMT
#443
woah, nice fakeout with the second drone. that was good.
Zona
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
40426 Posts
November 11 2010 09:36 GMT
#444
pool/gas for hoejja
wonder if hoejja's game plan includes being ready for a 3 hatch before pool BO switch

ssak taking his main gas
once again sending his lone first forwards in a vulnerable way
"If you try responding to those absurd posts every day, you become more damaged. So I pay no attention to them at all." Jung Myung Hoon (aka Fantasy), as translated by Kimoleon
Zona
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
40426 Posts
November 11 2010 09:36 GMT
#445
hoejja taking his 2nd gas, lair starts, scouting scv knows all about it
"If you try responding to those absurd posts every day, you become more damaged. So I pay no attention to them at all." Jung Myung Hoon (aka Fantasy), as translated by Kimoleon
ShadeR
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
Australia7535 Posts
November 11 2010 09:37 GMT
#446
On November 11 2010 18:34 Womwomwom wrote:
The wasted zealots were to buy time. He wasn't ready (lol) for mutalisks so he sacked zealots so Hydra had to bring them back to his base to defend.

Basically Jangbi being extremely greedy trying to block his natural with a cannon, a probe and a zealot despite seeing the zergling numbers snowballed into him getting utterly wrecked. Extremely stupid play either way, I can't remember the last time a planned +1 speedlot timing attack worked on anyone seeing most zergs have perfected the art of the simcity.

Brave vs Killer. tho Brave did say in his interview something about it being more refined orsumthing
thopol
Profile Blog Joined May 2008
Japan4560 Posts
November 11 2010 09:37 GMT
#447
On November 11 2010 18:31 Wings wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 11 2010 18:27 thopol wrote:
I admit that it looked like bad play from Jangbi, and I know the guy aint performing lately, but it was just some minor control mistakes. The things that looked like strategic blunders were mostly him trying to be greedy. The initial ling break was caused by trying to cut corners (the trademark of his mentor), and some decisive decision making by Hydra. After getting behind, Jangbi seemed to be trying to cut as many corners as possible to try to decrease the margin. That makes sense, but his control wasn't good enough to make it work. I don't think it was bad decision making, just that he was creating situations where he had to manage. Hydra managed to exploit the situations Jangbi created and won. It looked like a comprehensive beating, getting totally outplayed, because his choices this game created those decisive situations.

I'm not saying that Jangbi played well, just that he wasn't getting walked all over. He deliberately, and with probably sound logic, created those situations that allowed Hydra to walk on him.

completely disagree. what were all those wasted zealots for? and if you're going to be greedy, why not SCOUT and make sure that you'll be safe? I think a single advance probe could have told him whether lings were coming or not, which would have let him pull more probes in time for the wall break.

Also, once you know your opponent has mutas, you NEED, no matter WHAT, cannons in your mineral line. Without them, your corsairs cannot dodge scourge. Jangbi was cutting corners, I agree; but if you cut too many corners, you're going to end up with a big fat circular target on your chest.

The zealots were wasted to build up a considerable corsair count, which he did develop. I agree that he certainly could have used a cannon in the mineral line at the natural. He also could have pulled probes to at least block the ramp, even without advance warning. These are mistakes. He made mistakes. My point was that his strategic decision-making was sound, that it looked like rape because of a couple clutch turning points which Jangbi enabled.
Zona
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
40426 Posts
November 11 2010 09:37 GMT
#448
spire starts at the nat - scv sees it before it dies to 6 lings
ebay up pretty early and upgrading

academy almost done

3rd and 4th raxes going up

a few speedlings heading west
actually a LOT now
"If you try responding to those absurd posts every day, you become more damaged. So I pay no attention to them at all." Jung Myung Hoon (aka Fantasy), as translated by Kimoleon
Wings
Profile Joined January 2010
United States999 Posts
November 11 2010 09:37 GMT
#449
ah... good ol' bio. love it.
The probability of Kim Carrier getting all those predictions wrong is similar to the probability Flash loses a TvT. Kim Carrier MUST BE a genius. His only big mistake... STORK.
Zona
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
40426 Posts
November 11 2010 09:37 GMT
#450
but unlike last game ssak actually has enough rines to hold his ramp, safe for now
first 2 medics out, scanners starting, stim researching
"If you try responding to those absurd posts every day, you become more damaged. So I pay no attention to them at all." Jung Myung Hoon (aka Fantasy), as translated by Kimoleon
Zona
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
40426 Posts
November 11 2010 09:38 GMT
#451
hoejja taking his 3rd at 1.5

quite a few lings spread out in a few groups waiting some distance otuside ssak's nat
turrets starting
here comes the ling surround!
"If you try responding to those absurd posts every day, you become more damaged. So I pay no attention to them at all." Jung Myung Hoon (aka Fantasy), as translated by Kimoleon
Wings
Profile Joined January 2010
United States999 Posts
November 11 2010 09:38 GMT
#452
a LOT of lings. he's waiting to trap the bio... lets see if Ssak falls for it.
The probability of Kim Carrier getting all those predictions wrong is similar to the probability Flash loses a TvT. Kim Carrier MUST BE a genius. His only big mistake... STORK.
Doraemon
Profile Blog Joined January 2010
Australia14949 Posts
November 11 2010 09:38 GMT
#453
damn. almost a great ling surround
Do yourself a favour and just STFU
Zona
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
40426 Posts
November 11 2010 09:38 GMT
#454
but ssak pulls his rines back quickly
a decent trade?
mutas are out now

and ssak now knows there's tons of lings out there

factory starts
"If you try responding to those absurd posts every day, you become more damaged. So I pay no attention to them at all." Jung Myung Hoon (aka Fantasy), as translated by Kimoleon
Wings
Profile Joined January 2010
United States999 Posts
November 11 2010 09:39 GMT
#455
SKT1 trademark marine micro. Great medic wall movement, good stim timing.
The probability of Kim Carrier getting all those predictions wrong is similar to the probability Flash loses a TvT. Kim Carrier MUST BE a genius. His only big mistake... STORK.
Zona
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
40426 Posts
November 11 2010 09:39 GMT
#456
mutas probe the main - one turret by the rax and most of the mnm are there too
no kills
"If you try responding to those absurd posts every day, you become more damaged. So I pay no attention to them at all." Jung Myung Hoon (aka Fantasy), as translated by Kimoleon
Wings
Profile Joined January 2010
United States999 Posts
November 11 2010 09:39 GMT
#457
i love how everyone is trying to copy Flash's muta defense nowadays.
The probability of Kim Carrier getting all those predictions wrong is similar to the probability Flash loses a TvT. Kim Carrier MUST BE a genius. His only big mistake... STORK.
Zona
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
40426 Posts
November 11 2010 09:40 GMT
#458
mutas pick off an scv building a depot

mnm move out - lings coming around from the back - 2 lagging rines picked off

ssak just moving forwards with his marines - loses more mnm - but now he turns around and shoots
"If you try responding to those absurd posts every day, you become more damaged. So I pay no attention to them at all." Jung Myung Hoon (aka Fantasy), as translated by Kimoleon
Wings
Profile Joined January 2010
United States999 Posts
November 11 2010 09:40 GMT
#459
a BIG bio ball heading towards Hoejja!! Don't know if he can stop this... there are SO many rines.
The probability of Kim Carrier getting all those predictions wrong is similar to the probability Flash loses a TvT. Kim Carrier MUST BE a genius. His only big mistake... STORK.
Fenrax
Profile Blog Joined January 2010
United States5018 Posts
November 11 2010 09:40 GMT
#460
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