bo7 is way better because team depth is way more important that way
i think it's better for other reasons as well, but bo5 did not provide enough opportunities for players to play

Simplistik

1891 Posts

July 01 2011 06:22 GMT

#542

The Bo7 format is definitely better. Two rounds of Winners League was too much though. I would guess that we'll see some changes for the next season, but it seems difficult to predict what will happen.

jjhchsc2

Korea (South)2393 Posts

July 01 2011 06:24 GMT

#543

CMON JAEDONG OZZZZ

Bulgaria4097 Posts

July 01 2011 07:58 GMT

#544

On July 01 2011 15:22 Simplistik wrote:
The Bo7 format is definitely better. Two rounds of Winners League was too much though. I would guess that we'll see some changes for the next season, but it seems difficult to predict what will happen.

Why? What is wrong with winners league?

ZBiR

Poland1092 Posts

July 01 2011 11:38 GMT

#545

KT gets freewins and other teams don't.

ShadeR

Australia7535 Posts

July 01 2011 11:51 GMT

#546

On July 01 2011 20:38 ZBiR wrote:
KT gets freewins and other teams don't.

ACE could have made playoffs too.

Jubinell

333 Posts

July 01 2011 14:46 GMT

#547

god...just bring back 2v2s...that will keep the fans busy for a while.

Simplistik

1891 Posts

July 01 2011 15:38 GMT

#548

On July 01 2011 16:58 M2 wrote:

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Why? What is wrong with winners league?

Winners league can sometimes look as if it's not a team league, but just aces duking it out. Also, even in the shortest "normal" format match we get to see at least 4 players from both teams. In Winners League sometimes you only get to see one or two players for several matches in a row. I like watching teams field a multitude of players who all have their own strengths, weaknesses and personalities.

When Winners League came around this season I quite enjoyed it initially. But at the beginning of Round 5 I really wanted the normal format back. Maybe they should not have two rounds in a row.

Doughboy

United States721 Posts

July 01 2011 19:36 GMT

#549

Yeah maybe if they had round 2 and 5 been Winner's league, that might work :D

VGhost

United States3608 Posts

July 02 2011 16:56 GMT

#550

Daily Update (after 7/2 games)
At this point a formality.

Place, Team, Record, Game Diff, Games Remaining

*1. SKT 38-15 +45 (1)
*2. CJ 34-19 +40 (1)
*3. KT 32-22 +15
4. WJN 27-26 +0 (1)
5. KHAN 25-27 -10 (2)
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6. STX 24-29 -13 (1)
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7. FOX 23-29 -9 (2)
8. OZ 23-30 -10 (1)
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9. MBC 22-32 -15
10. ACE 17-36 -43 (1)

Remaining:
WJN plays FOX.
KHAN plays OZ.
OZ plays KHAN.
FOX plays WJN and STX.
STX plays FOX.

Playoffs:
1. If STX > FOX, WJN, KHAN, STX make the playoffs.
2. If FOX > STX, STX is eliminated.
3. If 2 and FOX > WJN, WJN, KHAN, FOX make the playoffs
4. If 2 and WJN > FOX, WJN, KHAN, make the playoffs.
5. If 4 and KHAN > OZ, FOX makes the playoffs.
6. If 4 and OZ > KHAN, OZ or FOX makes the playoffs on game differential.

tl;dr: WJN, KHAN are in. The winner of STX vs FOX makes the playoffs, unless:
OZ > KHAN, WJN > FOX > STX and OZ ends up with a better game differential than FOX, in which case OZ make the playoffs.[/QUOTE]

Woongjin Stars Report: Well they played somebody's B-team and stomped them. This is much better than the last lol-tastic match vs CJ Entus. At the same time, probable opponent KHAN is a much scarier proposition right now than KT, even if we're talking A-team lineups.

Speaking of which...

Tonight is for all the marbles. Or at least all the non-playoff marbles. OZ needs to win, and win big. Meanwhile, STX plays to clinch, while FOX plays for one last shot.

Woongjin's rooting interests: I'll be perfectly honest. We don't want to play KHAN in the first round. For that to happen, Samsung needs to drop its last two games, and STX or FOX needs to win out. So I'm rooting for OZ to beat KHAN (unlikely as that seems), and FOX over STX since WeMade has a better shot at winning the game differential tiebreaker. Also I'd rather play Mind and Shine and RorO than Bogus and Calm and Kal, whatever their current form says. (And finally, I want to see FOX win because if we can't avoid playing KHAN anyway I want to see OZ make the playoffs and if STX wins tonight that's impossible.)

jlim

Spain943 Posts

July 02 2011 23:42 GMT

#551

thanks for your updates VGhost

bearbuddy

3442 Posts

July 03 2011 00:15 GMT

#552

I like winner's league. Still, it's strange that it would count towards the overall score. I want to see it as a separate event of its own, but that's basically what STX cup is.

NicksonReyes

Philippines4431 Posts

July 03 2011 05:59 GMT

#553

Grats to STX. Oz

pvzvt

Israel2097 Posts

July 03 2011 07:35 GMT

#554

Vasoline73

United States7751 Posts

July 03 2011 10:04 GMT

#555

So KT v STX or KHAN? Do we know yet?

kuroshiroi

3149 Posts

July 03 2011 10:24 GMT

#556

On July 03 2011 19:04 Vasoline73 wrote:
So KT v STX or KHAN? Do we know yet?

No. Ace vs. Khan decides the 6th place. If Khan loses, Khan plays KT.

Simplistik

1891 Posts

July 03 2011 10:38 GMT

#557

Daily Update (after 7/3 games)

Place, Team, Record, Game Diff, Games Remaining

1. SKT 38-15 +45 (1)
2. CJ 34-19 +40 (1)
3. KT 32-22 +15
4. WJN 27-26 +0 (1)
5. STX 25-29 -9 (0)
6. KHAN 25-28 -14 (1)
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7. OZ 24-30 -6 (0)
8. FOX 23-30 -13 (1)
9. MBC 22-32 -15
10. ACE 17-36 -43 (1)

Remaining:
Stars vs FOX.
CJ vs SKT.
KHAN vs ACE.

Playoff participants are decided. 5th/6th place depends on whether KHAN wins or loses against ACE.

Fenrax

United States5018 Posts

July 03 2011 11:24 GMT

#558

playoffs without JD is just wrong

For the Khan vs. Ace match January should seriously consider losing against Ace on purpose. KT seems much weaker than Woongjin Starts atm. KT has an injured Flash, an okayish Stats and not much else, Stars with Soulkey, Light with his improved TvP and Zero seem like a much tougher opponent.

VGhost

United States3608 Posts

July 03 2011 11:29 GMT

#559

On July 03 2011 20:24 Fenrax wrote:
Oz

I'm fine with that. Stars vs STX gives Woongjin a better chance to advance as well.