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If there wasn't Winners League, ACE would have made it to the play-offs. :O
I am wondering if next season will have two rounds of WL.
Anyway, I would like these 4 to advance :
- WMF because that disbanding rumor scares the shit ouf of me
- Khan because I want to see the Stork / Jangbi duo to do well, and because I wanna see January trolling playoffs line-ups
- Woongjin, because they have a great and deep line up, too bad Woongjin players are rather inconsistent.
- Hwaseung Oz because JD is on a killing spree, but unfortunately his teammates still suck (although Hiya played really well against Bisu), so unless they hurry to recruit PirateZerg and MoustacheZerg, they have literally no chance.
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With todays match STX beats OZ 4-1 and OZ is officially eliminated from any chance for the playoff.
KHAN is 100% in with 5th/6th place secured even if they lose both of their games and even got a chance for 4th if they win their remaining games and WJN start a losing streak.
Only STX and WMF got a chance for 6th spot where WMF needs to win 2 matches against STX and WJN and STX just needs to win their last game against WMF.
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Sanya12364 Posts
While doing nothing themselves, Khan and Stars are now secure in their playoff spot thanks to STX's victory over Oz. MBC is eliminated by their loss to KT.
The key set is still WMF vs STX. If STX wins, they are in. If WMF wins against both STX and Stars, they are in. Oz still has a chance if WMF beats STX but loses to Stars.
4-6 seeds are still up for grabs.
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*1. SKT 37-15 +43 (2)
*2. CJ 34-18 +41 (2)
*3. KT 32-21 +19 (1)
4. WJN 25-26 -5 (3)
5. KHAN 25-27 -10 (2)
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6. STX 24-29 -13 (1)
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7. FOX 23-29 -9 (2)
8. OZ 23-30 -10 (1)
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9. MBC 22-31 -14 (1)
10. ACE 16-35 -42 (3)
News: MBCGame HERO is actually eliminated this time.
Remaining:
WJN plays FOX.
KHAN plays OZ.
OZ plays KHAN.
FOX plays WJN and STX.
STX plays FOX.
Playoffs:
1. If STX > FOX, WJN, KHAN, STX make the playoffs.
2. If FOX > STX, STX is eliminated.
3. If 2 and FOX > WJN, WJN, KHAN, FOX make the playoffs
4. If 2 and WJN > FOX, WJN, KHAN, make the playoffs.
5. If 4 and KHAN > OZ, FOX makes the playoffs.
6. If 4 and OZ > KHAN, OZ or FOX makes the playoffs on game differential.
tl;dr: WJN, KHAN are in. The winner of STX vs FOX makes the playoffs, unless:
OZ > KHAN, WJN > FOX > STX and OZ ends up with a better game differential than FOX, in which case OZ make the playoffs.
Rooting Tonight: Air Force ACE > SK Telecom T1 (doesn't matter - let's go ACE!); Woongjin Stars > CJ Entus (please!)
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CJ-SKT final most likely. In which case, I can't see SKT losing it.
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Netherlands45349 Posts
Does woongjins match matter?
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On June 28 2011 22:22 Kipsate wrote:
Does woongjins match matter?
If they win, it means they are at worst 5th, and only Khan can surpass them. If they lose (would have to lose the 2 remaining matches too, Khan win at least one, and:
1) STX win last match, both that and WJN losses with big differences
or
2) FOX win 2 remaining matches)
that could lead them to 6th place. So not really.
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On June 28 2011 22:13 VGhost wrote:+ Show Spoiler +*1. SKT 37-15 +43 (2)
*2. CJ 34-18 +41 (2)
*3. KT 32-21 +19 (1)
4. WJN 25-26 -5 (3)
5. KHAN 25-27 -10 (2)
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6. STX 24-29 -13 (1)
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7. FOX 23-29 -9 (2)
8. OZ 23-30 -10 (1)
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9. MBC 22-31 -14 (1)
10. ACE 16-35 -42 (3)
News: MBCGame HERO is actually eliminated this time.
Remaining:
WJN plays FOX.
KHAN plays OZ.
OZ plays KHAN.
FOX plays WJN and STX.
STX plays FOX.
Playoffs:
1. If STX > FOX, WJN, KHAN, STX make the playoffs.
2. If FOX > STX, STX is eliminated.
3. If 2 and FOX > KHAN, WJN, KHAN, FOX make the playoffs
4. If 2 and WJN > FOX, WJN, KHAN, make the playoffs.
5. If 4 and KHAN > OZ, FOX makes the playoffs.
6. If 4 and OZ > KHAN, OZ or FOX makes the playoffs on game differential.
tl;dr: WJN, KHAN are in. The winner of STX vs FOX makes the playoffs, unless:
OZ > KHAN, WJN > FOX > STX and OZ ends up with a better game differential than FOX, in which case OZ make the playoffs.
Rooting Tonight: Air Force ACE > SK Telecom T1 (doesn't matter - let's go ACE!); Woongjin Stars > CJ Entus (please!)
So even if STX beats WJN 4-0 and KHAN beats FOX, they're out if they lose to FOX? :O.
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Sanya12364 Posts
On June 28 2011 23:31 ZeaL. wrote:
So even if STX beats WJN 4-0 and KHAN beats FOX, they're out if they lose to FOX? :O.
STX has only one set left and it's against FOX. If they lose to FOX they are out. FOX plays against Woojin in the other game not KHAN. Oz plays against Khan.
I think you're a bit confused about the remaining schedule.
Games that matter for playoffs. Woojin vs Fox; STX vs Fox; Oz vs Khan
Games that matter for seeding: Khan vs Ace; Woojin vs CJ; Woojin vs KT
Khan and Woojin are most likely playing each other. Likewise one of Oz/Fox/STX is likely to play KT.
That's it. Everything else is meaningless. SKT can go undefeated in a round again for bragging rights.
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On June 29 2011 00:05 TanGeng wrote:Show nested quote +On June 28 2011 23:31 ZeaL. wrote:
So even if STX beats WJN 4-0 and KHAN beats FOX, they're out if they lose to FOX? :O.
STX has only one set left and it's against FOX. If they lose to FOX they are out. FOX plays against Woojin in the other game not KHAN. Oz plays against Khan. I think you're a bit confused about the remaining schedule. Games that matter for playoffs. Woojin vs Fox; STX vs Fox; Oz vs Khan Games that matter for seeding: Khan vs Ace; Woojin vs CJ; Woojin vs KT Khan and Woojin are most likely playing each other. Likewise one of Oz/Fox/STX is likely to play KT. That's it. Everything else is meaningless. SKT can go undefeated in a round again for bragging rights.
Oh I misread it -_-. Got it clear now. And sigh, SKT fans being SKT fans...
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On June 28 2011 23:31 ZeaL. wrote:Show nested quote +On June 28 2011 22:13 VGhost wrote:+ Show Spoiler +*1. SKT 37-15 +43 (2)
*2. CJ 34-18 +41 (2)
*3. KT 32-21 +19 (1)
4. WJN 25-26 -5 (3)
5. KHAN 25-27 -10 (2)
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6. STX 24-29 -13 (1)
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7. FOX 23-29 -9 (2)
8. OZ 23-30 -10 (1)
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9. MBC 22-31 -14 (1)
10. ACE 16-35 -42 (3)
News: MBCGame HERO is actually eliminated this time.
Remaining:
WJN plays FOX.
KHAN plays OZ.
OZ plays KHAN.
FOX plays WJN and STX.
STX plays FOX.
Playoffs:
1. If STX > FOX, WJN, KHAN, STX make the playoffs.
2. If FOX > STX, STX is eliminated.
3. If 2 and FOX > KHAN, WJN, KHAN, FOX make the playoffs
4. If 2 and WJN > FOX, WJN, KHAN, make the playoffs.
5. If 4 and KHAN > OZ, FOX makes the playoffs.
6. If 4 and OZ > KHAN, OZ or FOX makes the playoffs on game differential.
tl;dr: WJN, KHAN are in. The winner of STX vs FOX makes the playoffs, unless:
OZ > KHAN, WJN > FOX > STX and OZ ends up with a better game differential than FOX, in which case OZ make the playoffs.
Rooting Tonight: Air Force ACE > SK Telecom T1 (doesn't matter - let's go ACE!); Woongjin Stars > CJ Entus (please!) So even if STX beats WJN 4-0 and KHAN beats FOX, they're out if they lose to FOX? :O.
Sorry about that! I had a typo in my write-up on (3), wrote FOX > KHAN instead of (as is now corrected) FOX > WJN. Apologies for the confusion.
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This is the current situation:
![[image loading]](http://i.imgur.com/qhqq3.png)
Two of those slots will be filled with Woongjin and Samsung.
Poor KT, stuck with the 4-6th place teams.
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On June 28 2011 17:16 Ryo wrote:
Proleague is really imbalanced at the moment. The top 3 are so far ahead of the rest. 2 rounds of WL was probably too much. I hope they revert back to the 5 round (including 1 WL) format next season.
Both SKT and CJ were only 10-8 during the two rounds of WL. It was KTFlash and Jaedong Oz who took advantage of it.
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Canada705 Posts
woot! KHAN is in.
KHAN for 2010-2011 Proleague Champions!
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Go OZ, you still have a chance 
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On June 28 2011 17:21 endy wrote:
If there wasn't Winners League, ACE would have made it to the play-offs. :O
I am wondering if next season will have two rounds of WL.
Yea, I would like to see WL reduced to one round (or even shorter) as well. The teams are in such a state that it overwhelmingly favors the larger, stronger teams.
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OZ is really in a dire situation. STX not fighting!!
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On June 28 2011 22:13 VGhost wrote:
*1. SKT 37-15 +43 (2)
*2. CJ 34-18 +41 (2)
*3. KT 32-21 +19 (1)
4. WJN 25-26 -5 (3)
5. KHAN 25-27 -10 (2)
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6. STX 24-29 -13 (1)
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7. FOX 23-29 -9 (2)
8. OZ 23-30 -10 (1)
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9. MBC 22-31 -14 (1)
10. ACE 16-35 -42 (3)
News: MBCGame HERO is actually eliminated this time.
Remaining:
WJN plays FOX.
KHAN plays OZ.
OZ plays KHAN.
FOX plays WJN and STX.
STX plays FOX.
Playoffs:
1. If STX > FOX, WJN, KHAN, STX make the playoffs.
2. If FOX > STX, STX is eliminated.
3. If 2 and FOX > WJN, WJN, KHAN, FOX make the playoffs
4. If 2 and WJN > FOX, WJN, KHAN, make the playoffs.
5. If 4 and KHAN > OZ, FOX makes the playoffs.
6. If 4 and OZ > KHAN, OZ or FOX makes the playoffs on game differential.
tl;dr: WJN, KHAN are in. The winner of STX vs FOX makes the playoffs, unless:
OZ > KHAN, WJN > FOX > STX and OZ ends up with a better game differential than FOX, in which case OZ make the playoffs.
Rooting Tonight: Air Force ACE > SK Telecom T1 (doesn't matter - let's go ACE!); Woongjin Stars > CJ Entus (please!)
mbc looks like they could make it if oz loses and mbc wins and they make up the differential. As in oz loses 4-2 and mbc wins 4-1
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It's top 6 that are in, not top 8, and MBC can't pass any of the top 6 teams.
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Daily Update (after 6/29 games)
*1. SKT 38-15 +45 (1)
*2. CJ 34-19 +40 (1)
*3. KT 32-21 +19 (1)
4. WJN 26-26 -4 (2)
5. KHAN 25-27 -10 (2)
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6. STX 24-29 -13 (1)
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7. FOX 23-29 -9 (2)
8. OZ 23-30 -10 (1)
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9. MBC 22-31 -14 (1)
10. ACE 16-36 -44 (2)
Remaining:
WJN plays FOX.
KHAN plays OZ.
OZ plays KHAN.
FOX plays WJN and STX.
STX plays FOX.
Playoffs:
1. If STX > FOX, WJN, KHAN, STX make the playoffs.
2. If FOX > STX, STX is eliminated.
3. If 2 and FOX > WJN, WJN, KHAN, FOX make the playoffs
4. If 2 and WJN > FOX, WJN, KHAN, make the playoffs.
5. If 4 and KHAN > OZ, FOX makes the playoffs.
6. If 4 and OZ > KHAN, OZ or FOX makes the playoffs on game differential.
tl;dr: WJN, KHAN are in. The winner of STX vs FOX makes the playoffs, unless:
OZ > KHAN, WJN > FOX > STX and OZ ends up with a better game differential than FOX, in which case OZ make the playoffs.
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