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[R&S] Shinhan Bank Proleague 10-11 - Page 29

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TheNessman
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
United States4158 Posts
July 03 2011 19:32 GMT
#561
so oz is just out?!?!!??
~~! youtube.com/xmungam1 !~~
greenelve
Profile Joined April 2011
Germany1392 Posts
July 03 2011 19:52 GMT
#562
On July 04 2011 04:32 TheNessman wrote:
so oz is just out?!?!!??

yes they are
oz cant make top 6 anymore this season..
z0r.de for your daily madness /// Who knows what evil lurks in the heart of men? The Shadow knows!
hitthat
Profile Joined January 2010
Poland2284 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-07-04 09:07:33
July 04 2011 09:07 GMT
#563
where is thread SKT vs CJ! Two contenders to gold will try themself and no thread???
Hype that shit up!!!

Edit: Oh wait, its altready done!
Shameless BroodWar separatistic, elitist, fanaticaly devoted puritan fanboy.
Caos2
Profile Joined November 2008
United States1728 Posts
July 04 2011 13:19 GMT
#564
Extremely close fight for the 6th place, lots of drama!
VGhost
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States3616 Posts
July 04 2011 14:18 GMT
#565
Daily Update (after 7/4 game)

Place, Team, Record, Game Diff, Games Remaining

*1. SKT 39-15 +46
*2. CJ 34-20 +39
*3. KT 32-22 +15
*4. WJN 27-26 +0 (1)
5. KHAN 25-28 -14 (1)
6. STX 25-29 -9
---
7. OZ 24-30 -6
8. FOX 23-30 -13 (1)
9. MBC 22-32 -15
10. ACE 17-36 -43 (1)

Remaining:
Stars vs FOX.
KHAN vs ACE

Playoff Report: All 6 teams are chosen. 1-4 are locked.
If KHAN > ACE, KHAN 5, STX 6.
If ACE > KHAN, STX 5, KHAN 6.

Rooting tonight: Woongjin > FOX (winning record plz kthx), ACE > KHAN (don't want to play KHAN, lol).
#4427 || I am not going to scan a ferret.
One Page Memory
Profile Blog Joined June 2004
Bulgaria2145 Posts
July 05 2011 08:13 GMT
#566
When did the postseason starts?
Jin Youngsoo before game with Savior: But, I demanded myself (of composure) by saying: Same old, same old - only a Zerg, only a Zerg
BLinD-RawR
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
ALLEYCAT BLUES50601 Posts
July 05 2011 08:30 GMT
#567
On July 05 2011 17:13 One Page Memory wrote:
When did the postseason starts?


July 9th-12th.

KT vs 6th place.
Brood War EICWoo Jung Ho, never forget.| Twitter: @BLinDRawR
Simplistik
Profile Blog Joined November 2007
2094 Posts
July 05 2011 20:03 GMT
#568
Well, this round was too easy for SK.

If Flash doesn't make it back in time then I fancy SouL's chances.
Dear BW Gods, it IS now autumn, so...
jpak
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
United States5045 Posts
July 06 2011 01:51 GMT
#569
[image loading]

The postseason in picture.
CJ Entusman #50! #1 클템 fan TL!
nbaker
Profile Joined July 2009
United States1341 Posts
July 06 2011 15:36 GMT
#570
I'm happy Stars is playing Khan first round rather than STX. They should be able to advance and then I want to see Zero take down Flash for revenge in the Ro4!
domane
Profile Blog Joined September 2009
Canada1606 Posts
July 10 2011 08:23 GMT
#571
My third year watching PL and I still dislike the playoff format.

But it is difficult to change as long as they allow six teams into post-season.

I also doubt KeSPA would ever change the core format, regardless of the number of teams.
Miles_Edgeworth
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
United States141 Posts
July 10 2011 16:47 GMT
#572
When is Playoffs Day 3? It doesn't seem to be on the TL calendar, and I can't find it in the OP.
Simplistik
Profile Blog Joined November 2007
2094 Posts
July 10 2011 16:51 GMT
#573
It's on the 12th at 18.00 KST, according to the KeSPA website here.
Dear BW Gods, it IS now autumn, so...
Dandy4
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
United States493 Posts
July 10 2011 17:15 GMT
#574
On July 10 2011 17:23 domane wrote:
My third year watching PL and I still dislike the playoff format.

But it is difficult to change as long as they allow six teams into post-season.

I also doubt KeSPA would ever change the core format, regardless of the number of teams.



The only thing I don't like is how the 1st team gets an automatic seed to the finals, but given the amount of teams, there is very little they can do. I hope the rumors about Fox are untrue, because I don't know what they can do with a lower amount of teams.
Who let the dogs out?
domane
Profile Blog Joined September 2009
Canada1606 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-07-11 03:20:59
July 11 2011 03:12 GMT
#575
Let's discuss an alternative anyways.

Top five teams only

There are 10 teams in PL, so it wouldn't be weird if the top 5 teams advanced to post-season. The result would be one less round (four is a bit long, no?) and the elimination of the semi final seed:

Quarter Final A: 2nd vs 5th
Quarter Final B: 3rd vs 4th

V

Semi Final: Winner (A) vs Winner (B)

V

Grand Final: 1st vs Winner of Semi Final


Currently the 3rd to 6th place teams have beyond a dismal chance of winning the championship. A team could fight through three rounds (!) and make it to the Grand Final. However, they become so worn out and studied to death by that point that they get demolished by the 1st place team. Even the Masters of the Universe couldn't get it done last year.

The majority of the league shouldn't be in the playoffs. The above format provides some relief to lower seeded teams.

---------------

+ Show Spoiler [Not feasible] +
Top four teams only

The grand final seed almost hands the championship to the 1st place team - it interferes with the spirit of competition. If only the top 4 teams were allowed to participate in the playoffs, there would be one less reason to maintain the seed.


Semi Final A: 1st vs 4th
Semi Final B: 2nd vs 3rd

V

Grand Final: Winner (A) vs Winner (B)


PL is a far cry from MLB, NBA, and other major professional sports leagues (no ticket sales, minimal profit from merchandise sales). The weaker teams would be left in the dust year after year. They would receive less publicity and their sponsors would have less incentive to continue supporting them.

But if 10 teams were to become 8 without causing the league to fall under, it might work.

Simplistik
Profile Blog Joined November 2007
2094 Posts
July 11 2011 06:39 GMT
#576
I rather dislike the direct seeding to the final. The fans of the first placed team hardly get to see their team during the playoffs. I think I'd prefer it like this:

Match 1: 6th vs 3rd
Match 2: 4th vs 5th

Match 3: Match 1 winner vs 2nd
Match 4: Match 2 winner vs 1st

Match 5 (final): Match 3 winner vs Match 4 winner
Dear BW Gods, it IS now autumn, so...
endy
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
Switzerland8970 Posts
July 11 2011 07:22 GMT
#577
On July 11 2011 15:39 Simplistik wrote:
I rather dislike the direct seeding to the final. The fans of the first placed team hardly get to see their team during the playoffs. I think I'd prefer it like this:

Match 1: 6th vs 3rd
Match 2: 4th vs 5th

Match 3: Match 1 winner vs 2nd
Match 4: Match 2 winner vs 1st

Match 5 (final): Match 3 winner vs Match 4 winner


In that case you should give the first a 1 point lead in the match, the same way you do when in a dual elimination tournament the winner of the losers bracket meets the winner of the winners bracket. Otherwise there is not advantage at all to finish first.
ॐ
bearbuddy
Profile Blog Joined February 2009
3442 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-07-11 07:36:42
July 11 2011 07:26 GMT
#578
On July 11 2011 16:22 endy wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 11 2011 15:39 Simplistik wrote:
I rather dislike the direct seeding to the final. The fans of the first placed team hardly get to see their team during the playoffs. I think I'd prefer it like this:

Match 1: 6th vs 3rd
Match 2: 4th vs 5th

Match 3: Match 1 winner vs 2nd
Match 4: Match 2 winner vs 1st

Match 5 (final): Match 3 winner vs Match 4 winner


In that case you should give the first a 1 point lead in the match, the same way you do when in a dual elimination tournament the winner of the losers bracket meets the winner of the winners bracket. Otherwise there is not advantage at all to finish first.


Maybe the higher seed gets to choose maps or gets to thumb down more maps on a larger pool of maps to choose from?

What Simplistik proposed is essentially the NFL playoffs format without the home field advantage.
Pai Mei
Profile Joined July 2011
Hong Kong16 Posts
July 11 2011 11:41 GMT
#579
Anyone knows the schedule? Maps?
andrewlt
Profile Joined August 2009
United States7702 Posts
July 11 2011 15:32 GMT
#580
On July 11 2011 16:26 bearbuddy wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 11 2011 16:22 endy wrote:
On July 11 2011 15:39 Simplistik wrote:
I rather dislike the direct seeding to the final. The fans of the first placed team hardly get to see their team during the playoffs. I think I'd prefer it like this:

Match 1: 6th vs 3rd
Match 2: 4th vs 5th

Match 3: Match 1 winner vs 2nd
Match 4: Match 2 winner vs 1st

Match 5 (final): Match 3 winner vs Match 4 winner


In that case you should give the first a 1 point lead in the match, the same way you do when in a dual elimination tournament the winner of the losers bracket meets the winner of the winners bracket. Otherwise there is not advantage at all to finish first.


Maybe the higher seed gets to choose maps or gets to thumb down more maps on a larger pool of maps to choose from?

What Simplistik proposed is essentially the NFL playoffs format without the home field advantage.



The NFL has a 16 game regular season, though, while PL had 54 this season. They need the stronger seed advantages to keep up interest for 54 regular season games.
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